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HSV W427 – 200 vehicle build cap

By Paul Maric |

Holden Special Vehicles has today confirmed that it will cap the production of the HSV W427 at 200 vehicles – the final number will be determined when last orders are taken in June next year – and will eventually build another super-Commodore.

The $155,000 HSV is the most expensive HSV ever. Packing a 7.0-litre LS7 V8 engine, HSV claims it sprints from 0-100km/h in the mid four-second barrier, making it an ultra-fast Aussie hauler.

 HSV W427

HSV Managing Director, Phil Harding said “The W427 program has been a great success, ahead of target and ahead of plan.”

The final W427 will roll off the production line in the latter part of 2009, prompting HSV to remind potential purchasers to place orders quickly for this very limited edition HSV.

“Existing W427 customers have told us they want to keep their purchase as exclusive as possible and some potential customers have asked us for clarification on exactly how many W427 Supercars we intend to build,” Mr Harding said.

“The confirmation of a total build number of 200 does this,” he added.

HSV W427

However, some customers may never know what it is like to really use their purchase as they are reputed to have put their purchase straight into storage.

“There’s a few I know of that have just been garaged,” Mr Harding said. “One customer has bought two – one to drive and one to keep.”

Mr Harding also told CarAdvice that the W427 program had been a complete success and as such would probably be repeated by HSV in the future.

“Although I don’t expect we will do anything similar inside three to five years,” he added.

HSV says 96 cars have so far been built and about another 40 orders, the car is only confirmed for construction when a retail customer places a confirmed order, are on hand, which leaves about 60 places in the order book for the remaining cars.

So if you’re intending on sinking $155,000 into a HSV, join the queue quickly!


 
  • Tom

    I saw a red one driving on the road… in surfers the other week. I was very surprised.

  • HSV

    Go the might HSV. This is the greatest car on the planet.

  • Dlr1

    do they estimate that 200 is the number of 7 litre engines that will be built in the US before GM is bankrupt?

  • Howie-VL

    I was under the impression that they were going to build 427? Thats probably right Dlr1. I wonder how they’re gunna go getting spare parts for these things too when they break…

  • Wheelnut

    Yes Originally they were going to build 427 W-427′s However; when they built the VL Walkinshaw SS Group A they were oroginally going to build 500 of them but due to popularity/demand they built another 250 of them.

    One of my mates ordered a Walkie but was annoyed when he found out that they were going to build an extra 250 as it detracts from the exclusivity.

    Some of which were delivered with the Whale Tail bodykits etc in the boot – because it was too close to the release of the VN SS Group As.

    Which could be another reason for HSV to limit it to 200 W-427s because by June they will be close to releasing the next generation of HSVs

  • Wheelnut

    HSV are dependent on the supply of 6.2 and 7.0 Litre V8s from the USA

    But I doubt the reason they’ve revised their figures and decided tolimit production to 2OO is due to the possibility that GM will be bankrupt by then

    It’s more likely because thats the number of ZR-1 Corvette LS3′s HSV have been Allocated up until June by which time the VF Series is likely to be out

    Besides GM have released a statement outlining thier restructuring plans etc – which includes Holden on to Holden because of their expertise and flexibility etc.

    So there is a possibility that they may start building V8′s here again at the Holden Engine Company – be it Holden 5.0 Litre Cadillac Northstar or Chev LS3′s]

    I never really expected to sell 427 HSVs anyway

    The most limited edition HSV was 2 Tooheys 1000 VN SS Group As that were pained Black both of which are in WA

    So maybe 200 is the number of LS3s HSV have been allocated up until next June next year by which time the VF HSVs will be out

  • B-Man

    I just read this as “We cant find 427 people stupid enough to pay $155,000 for a taxi with a giant motor.”

  • Wheelnut

    That maybe…However; at east HSV have found more people than what TRD have to buy their FWD Shopping Trolley with a baby-blower and a Bodykit or their Jacked-Up Pick-Up with “Go Fast” Stripes.

    The fact HSV and FPV have 2-3 month waiting lists for their cars whereas TRD doesn’t shows what locally built cars car enthusiasts prefer.

    BTW: When are TRD going to reduce the price of the Aurion again? it’s been a couple of months since the last [3rd] one.

  • Wheelnut

    Oops – I meant: I never really expected to sell 427 HSV 427s anyway.. They’ve sold more than 427 HSVs [obviously]

  • sleepy

    the back looks like the current commodore… yawn

  • B-Man

    A good point well made Wheelnut. Although, Toyota have never realy had the same blind following that both Holden and Ford have in Oz. Even if they made a direct competitor to the HSV/FPV stuff I doubt it would sell. Which is a shame really, as I’m sure it would be far more reliable!

  • Wheelnut

    I tend to disagree B-man.. If Toyota don’t have a blind following why would people continue to buy Corollas given that there are so many other cars available that are just as reliable [as the corolla] with better performance and handling; safety features and more creature comforts etc

    Because going from your initial comment that is what you were illuding too [was it not] – why would someone spend$150K on a car like the W427 when there are other cars with better specifications etc around for the same price.

  • B-Man

    Yes that was the point i was trying to make, but cars like the Corolla and the HSV 427 appeal to a completly different demographic. I think that is probably one of the reasons the TRD vehicles have not been selling anywhere near the numbers that Toyota would have liked, as Holden and Ford are so established within their target market, as the Corolla is in it’s market. I think we both may be arguing the same point here, I should have worded my last post a little better.
    Apologies!

  • rixtar

    I think if the TRD Aurion was RWD they would be selling a heap more. As to the HSV 427, why would you buy this when you can get a Mercedes C63 or BMW M3 for the same money??! It just doesn’t make sense.

  • nameless

    “I just read this as “We cant find 427 people stupid enough to pay $155,000 for a taxi with a giant motor.” ”

    Exactly what i was thinking

  • pious

    hehehehehehehe…me too, but I wouldnt say it for fear of a tirade of abuse from the pro holden camp. A big pass from me. 200? Jag said that they were only going to sell 220 of the XJ220 (which did 220mph in the 1980′s by the way – why are we so excited about this thing doing 270kph in 2008?) and then sold plenty more later.

  • Snake

    As someone has pointed, what reason do I have to purchase this vehicle over a Mercedes C63, BMW M3, Lexus ISF or Audi RS4?

    The European and Japanese rivals, are just as quick, probably better through corners, much much more refined and have more respect attached with them.

    The only people buying this car will be Holden fan-boys.

  • http://skyline The Salesman

    Any product that has huge demand would be capitalized on i am sure. Why, if there are so many buyers, would they limit production to just 200?
    As wheelnut said the Walkinshaw limit was increased by another 250 units because of demand.
    I think the truth might be they have had trouble filling orders (notice they did not confirm how many had sold) and had to come up with a reason to get this product back in front of the punters. They are using fear to motivate any potential buyers into action who might have been sitting on the fence by limiting the amount. Shame really, it is an awesome car and in a way this limit will probably see it become an investment as the car becomes a classic. Better then investing in shares at the moment.

  • http://caradvice.com.au OSU811

    427 was the maximum number they were going to build! but I believe with the current financial crisis and backlash against big v8s. They have stopped at 200 so there isnt a heap of unsold expensive hsv,s on dealers floorplans, who cant afford to keep them either so big discounts would follow to move them on..

  • JML

    The HSV W427. The fastest American car Australia has ever built.

  • http://deleted Alex

    To HSV, I assume you’ve never driven anything other than a Holden then? Because if you had, you would be saying different. HSVs are hardly the greatest cars on the planet.

    The W”427″ ceasing production at 200 cars? Transalation W427 “not selling”. And they’re obviously not because if they were so special, they would have all sold out in a matter of days. I thought they had and I am actually surprised but then again, you must be a very proud Australian to spend that much on that car. You could get and M3 or a C63 for that! You’d have to be an idiot.

  • Elitist

    $155K for this…you serious??!!!

    Ok Holden you have your overpriced corvette with american quality interior – BUT DONT COME TO ME for tax payers bailouts!

  • Devil’s Advocate

    I find it extremely funny that the moment someone has a bad word to say about a GM-Holden or Ford product they straight away start bagging out Toyota. In particular the TRD Aurion and how crappy FWD is as a distraction from the real topic of a $155k Commodore with a huge American built engine in it. Gee some people must be very insecure! Very amusing!!! As good as it may be, and I’m sure it is, I’ll stick with something like an M3 or C63 etc for that coin. Also PLEASE don’t bring up the “but you can’t tow a boat with an M3″ argument because I doubt that would be the main reason someone would buy a W427!!! TVFPIC (flame suit on!!)

  • The Realist

    Wheelnut Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
    “That maybe…However; at east HSV have found more people than what TRD have to buy their FWD Shopping Trolley with a baby-blower and a Bodykit or their Jacked-Up Pick-Up with “Go Fast” Stripes.”

    I am not defending the TRD here – but do you not see the irony when you, a Holden aficionado, are making reference to “Go Fast stripes” and “bodykits”?

    “The fact HSV and FPV have 2-3 month waiting lists for their cars whereas TRD doesn’t shows what locally built cars car enthusiasts prefer.”

    If that’s the case why is there mad discounting all over the place? Dealers are trying to clear brand new HSV’s mate – I don’t see anything resembling these waiting lists you refer to.

    “BTW: When are TRD going to reduce the price of the Aurion again? it’s been a couple of months since the last [3rd] one.”

    Perhaps they’re waiting for Holden and HSV to do another discount with their vehicles…

  • The Realist

    Wheelnut Says:
    December 17th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    “Which could be another reason for HSV to limit it to 200 W-427s because by June they will be close to releasing the next generation of HSVs”

    Come off it mate – the reason is because they can’t find enough deluded idiots to fork out $155K.

  • http://caradvise.com.au schah7

    HSV Your sweet dreams love affair contuinues.
    With what Holden needs a 7 litre V8 that a FPV F6 will equally in performance which only needs 4 litres. Nearly
    twice the capacity. Oh thats right the F6 does ‘ave to put up with the 1950′s “pushrod O.H.V cyl.heads which virtually NO other car man. handicaps their cars with.

  • hks

    You can probably pick up a Nissan GTR for the same price that holden’s offering for this beast

  • Wheelnut

    both HSV and FPV do a lot more to differentiate their cars from the donor vehicles than just whack on some go fast stripes and a bodykit – they upgrade virtually every part of the car.

    Remember TRDs first attempt in Oz – there was an engine fire.. gives you an idea as to how well it was put together. It could also be a reason why TRD sales are so sh-t [pardon the pun]

    Despite all Toyotas resources and money they couldn’t make a blown [supposedly F1 Inspired 6cyl] that produces as much power as a V8 [like FPV did with a low tech I6] now that would have been impressive.

    You may say TRDs aren’t meant to compete against HSVs or FPVs yet TRD is Toyotas “Performance” division just like FPV is to Ford and HSV is to Holden. So comparisons are valid and if STi can build Imprezas that can beat the Aussie V8s why cant the worlds wealthiest car company?

  • Wheelnut

    Devils Advocate – same could be said for those who consistenly bag Holden and Ford in a nattempt to try and defend their beloved Toyota could it not?

    I am a Holden Fan but I am willing and able to admit that some of their products aren’t as good as those available from other manufacturers – I mean If I was after a 6cyl sedan I would go for an XR6T, if i was after a Full Size 4×4 I would probably go for a Hilux. However: I am yet to see a Toyo-phile say a similar thing about a Corolla or Hilux etc.

    Thing is the traditional Ford v Holden Rivalry has virually disappeared on this site – and been replaced with Holden/Ford vs Toyota – because we are proud of our local auto industry and the cars we make

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    A bit of a contradiction in all as Holden announced at the Melbourne Motorshow during the release of the W427 that they held a list which contained a couple of hundred potential / interested buyers and that the original amount of 427 vehicles to be assembled will not be enough.

    Now only 200 will be produced.

    So what happened with the list of potential buyers and the original target of 427 examples.

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Wheelnut : i believe the TRD Hilux has been relatively popular and found a sum of buyers in no time at all. My local dealership sold thier first 2 examples in as many weeks. I have also been lead to believe the sales of the TRD Aurion has been slowly but surely improving aswell.

    HSV been selling fast cars in Australia for 20 years while TRD has only been at in Oz for only 18 or so months.

    However, by the sounds of it with the IS-F, it appears it won’t take them long to move of those then HSV will do with the W427 and that is despite the import restrictions.

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Wheelnut : given the The General’s dire position, they would dare not artifically restrict production especially on big price tag commodities like the W427 as they are desperately chasing every dime and penny they can find. The only reason for such restrictions will be demand driven or in this case, lack off.

    As for the regular HSV units, i notice they have drastically slashed the prices on many models with some that can now be purchased with savings of anywhere up to $9250 from the original tag.

  • http://caradvise.com.au schah7

    Wheelnut you made some valid points, one mistake though
    your comment on “Low-Tech” was ment for the holden/chev V8
    with pushrod O.H.V “1950′s Tech” as the Falcon 6 cyl. has
    D.O.H.C 4 valve tech. No one bothers with ” pass-use-bye-date” O.H.V.
    The Europeans and Japanese sit back and laugh at THAT
    [O.H.V]inefficently

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Wheelnut : goes to show how much you understand, or very little off more accurately.

    The TRD Aurion is upgraded in many respects from the donor car aswell including engine / supercharging, brakes, suspension, exterior and interior which is pretty much in line with the efforts from HSV and FPV.

    As for the lone and a very lonely single engine fire may i add, that is a far cry from the tens of hundreds of GEN3′s that were returned to Holden or the several hundred clutch replacements issued on the early FPV’s.

    Besides, the W427 is a $155 000 motor vehicle so in all fairness should be compared directly against the IS-F, M3, RS4 and AMG C63 but i assume you are not so confidant with such comparisons.

    Why would that be ????

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Wheelnut : you asked why the world’s wealthiest car company carn’t build a car to beat the Aussie V8′s.

    They did .. the IS-F and it is a much more highly engineered / developed performance car in every respect.

    Good thing having the IS-F because makes redundant many of your comments.

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Wheelnut : that is right, we are proud of our local manufactuers which means some of us are glad to have Toyota as one of those parties.

  • Wheelnut

    No McKay it’s reasonable to compare the W-427 to the IS-F and the other European Perfomance Cars because there are some areas where the W-427 would be better and others where the IS-F would be better and I expect more where the Germans would be better than both the W-427 and IS-F?

    One area where the W-427 is better than the IS-F is definetly Handling – it has adjustable suspension

  • Wheelnut

    Don’t forget a couple of months ago Top Gear did a COmparison with the VE Clubsport R8 and a number of European Sports Sedans that are around the same Price [in Aussie Dollars] and the Clubbie was able to hold its own so one would assume the W-427 would be able to do just as well

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Wheelnut : handling !!

    Please tell me that is a joke.

    The European Comparison i sighted which encompassed the M3, IS-F, AMG C63 and V’hal R8 by Fifth Gear – the R8 was left for dead in everything ranging from 1/4 mile sprints to circuit handling.

    Final conclusion :

    1. M3
    2. IS-F
    3. AMG C63
    4. R8 and a long shot behind.

    Here is an example of a proper test and not a one lap wonder :

    Go around once, go around twice, go around again and again and again and again and every lap completed i can assure you any HSV or FPV for that matter will get further and further behind.

    In the event you may have bothered to read a number of local reviews about the IS-F, you would be familiar that Lexus supplied 2 examples at Phillip Island on test day for the media and potential customers with one of them busy clocking lap after lap of the circuit while the second example been flogged on the skid pan for hour after hour and every report i have sighted have stated the same -the IS-F stoodup to the half-day torture without fault, overheating or fading of the brakes.

    On the otherhand, HSV’s are notourious for breakdowns on track day and if they don’t, you can be assured thier performance will deteriorate quickly.

    That is the dfferance between the engineering of a M3, IS-F, AMG C63 and RS4 as apposed to a HSV .. there are no comparison especially when it comes to consistancy and i am sure Car Advice will agree with me.

  • Frenchie

    Ok they are not selling 427 of these vehicles, but 155,000 for any car is a tall order. How many GT-R\’s are Nissan planning to sell in Australia?

  • Elitist

    LOL…LOL…LOL

    Am I reading that someone here actually believes this car would handle better than anything from Germany, Italy or Japan over 100k?

    Always remember this guys, PPL who drive european or Japanese cars NEVER downgrade to Holdens or Fords…

    But ppl with Holden and Fords always aspire to one day one a Euro or Jap car.

  • Frenchie

    McKay:
    A R8 is not a 427! A R8 is about half the price of the cheapest of the other cars.

  • Elitist

    Frenchie good point.

    Lemme think… $150 for GTR with latest technology, tested and PROVEN on the Nurb….
    or $155k for a overpriced corvette with some Brembo’s slapped on and a fire extinguisher as a luxury option.

  • http://volvo topdog

    I do know someone who was very keen on getting one but soon as he herd of the dates and the prices were confirmed for gtr for about the same money hes placed a deposit down for the nissan gtr.I think hes done the right thing i dont think a commondore is going to be any were near a gtr all round that is not just straight line stuff but as a all round car the gtr will destroy the holden

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Topdog : the GTR is so good is destroys alot of things although i have heard because of the transmission issues, launch control will be removed.

    Eitherway, they don’t come much better then a GTR

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Elitist : too true !!!!!!

  • http://volvo topdog

    Yes very true Mckay i told him that thay will prob remove lauch control and my mates just said thay prob would not have used it any way .Thay also promised to take me for a ride so i cant wait even more so than them to ride in one i think its going to be a buzz

  • http://australiancaradvice McKay

    Topdog : a ride in a GTR will feel like being launched of an aircraft carrier in an F-18 .. sure to be a pants packing buzz alright.

  • Devil666

    People never go from Euro to Aussie cars? I call your bluff as I did so. Sold the CLK500 (A209) for a Calais V V8. It is faster, handles better with better weight distribution and a faster acting manual mode. That is a $55k Holden VS a $180k Merc. As Wheels constantly say, VE is the best Aussie built chassis. Period. Best balance and handling. Ride is not on par with rivals tho, and chassis is left down by lower spec drivetrain options. Doesn’t change the fact the turn in is second to none in this country and with magnetic MRC suspension, bigger brakes and a bigger engine. Whoever said the FPV Turbo six can keep up with W427 is dreaming. And as usual, HSV has given it the perfect wheel/tyre combination: a skill Ford are yet to achieve. Taxi my arse, BA’s are the shitty taxis.

  • Devil666

    But unfortunately, the W427 is out of its’ depth in terms of C63 and M3. IS-F is probably a closer match, IS250 chassis way of the mark with C and 3 series.

    Is it just me or should the W427 have used the LS9 insted?

    Anyone who thinks OHV are out of date, you are right, but remember the scorching ZR-1 Nurbs’ time. They can still be more than competitive. You’d never go BOSS over LS.

  • Alex

    Well then what can we say Devil666, you obviously don’t know a good car when you own one. I have driven both of those cars and there is no other way to say it other than you are so wrong! The Calais? Handling better than a CLK500? I am actually laughing! What Elitist should have said a that only people with no taste go from European to Australian. You cannot compare a taxi to a Mercedes-Benz coupe. And Wheels magazine is hardly a reputable source, not to mention their obvious bias toward Holden.

  • Neo

    i do think it would be fun to drive but the car is over priced.

    as for This is the greatest car on the planet. you got to be kidding

  • pious

    Cant really compare the W427 to the GTR – the GTR has no geniune back seat. Really though, the W427 is lacklustre compared to euro competitors (and the bigger lexus, for that matter). It looks good, but not beautiful, its interior is tacky and gauche, and really it is just not that fast. It has little class. It is a pretty quick sedan with a huge engine. Holden boys will love it to death, and good on them. They will be carrying on about them for 20 years, so there will always be some market for them as a curiosity, if anything, and it will fuel many discussions at the BBQ (and probably on this site)…

  • http://caradvise.com.au schah7

    Devil666
    That “Boss” produces virtually the same power and more torque as ya where H.S.V needs 6.2 Litre where the F.P.V
    only needs 5.4 Litre to do the same.
    As for the Z-R1 Nurbs’ time was more to do with the Vette’s -
    “light weight” &
    “HUGE engine capacity”
    NOT engine efficiency

  • AKP

    Would be suprised if any of the mentioned manufacturers have sold as many vehicles (performanced based) as HSV in the past two years. FPV certainaly hasn’t.

  • Matty B

    One thing people always forget is track times, whether it be 1/4 mile, philip island or even nurburgring don’t necessarily equal driving pleasure, or the smile a car puts on your face after driving it.

    Now I know no one commenting here has driven a W427, so I find it a bit rough listening to people bag the car. I’m no holden fan, but good on them for having a go.

    anti spam word = datsun : )

  • BC

    Alex – Have you seen what make of car is used in Europe as taxis?

  • Escort_Ghia

    devil666
    if the f6 had bigger wheels and tyres it could keep up with the W427 or if you willing to spend a few hundered on a flash tune it will destroy it 155k is to much for a commadore or new falcon.

    the w427′s biggest problem is it don’t fell like 155k inside it fells like a commodore.

  • AKP

    Escort Ghia hahahahahahah what a great car they were too !! If my grandmother had balls !! if if if if but it hasnt and it doesnt !! (the F6 that is)

  • BC

    Too true AKP – Coulda, Shoulda, Woulda!

  • Wheelnut

    Quote [Escort Ghia] : the W-427’s biggest problem is it don’t feel like 155k inside it feels like a commodore.

    could that be because the W427 is derived from a Commodore.

    I mean that’s like saying the inside of the IS-F feels like a Camry.

    Inorder to keep the price of their cars relatively competitive with other Luxury Performance Sports Sedans manufacturers including HSV base their cars on a tried and tested car such as the Commodore and then simply make a range of enhancments and improvements

    Very few Sports cars such as those people have compared the W-427 to are hand-built from the ground up on a completely seperate platform [to other cars in the range] with all unique parts or features etc
    If they did you’d be looking at closer to $1-1.5m not $100-150k

  • Escort_Ghia

    akp

    you can say what you want but the truth is my escort is more comfortabel than my old man calis and its faster dose the 1/4 in 4.38 and its only a normaly asperated 2.0,

    has never broken down sounds better than and new car and handles like one and only cost just over 5,500 might i ask what you drive (could use some work on the brakes.).

    If the are so bad why would people still choose to race these in rallys over anyo ther car they still win.

  • AKP

    Escort, sorry to knock your pride and joy but i was an apprentice at Ford during the Escort period and still have nightmares. More comfortable than a Calais? Doesnt the Calais have climate control, power steering, elec seats, and even intermitant wipers? I am guessing the 1/4 in 4.38 is a typo. I drive a VE SSV AND LOVE IT.

  • BC

    An escort wouldn’t pull a 4.38 falling off a cliff.

  • Elitist

    Gentlemen don’t care about Quarter mile speeds as on Fridays they choose to take out women to dinner rather than spend it eating “hot chips” out of a bucket at Calder park.

  • Wheelnut

    Escort Ghia: with a 1/4 mile time of 4.38… If I was you I’d have another look at your car again … That’s not an Escort youve got thats Victor Brays Top Fuel Door Slammer 57 Chev you’ve got in your garage

    Because the only way an Escort could reach anywhere near that time is with wind assistance of over $100Km/h

  • Escort_Ghia

    climate control, power steering, elec seats, and even intermitant wipers are unessasery in a car that gets driven on weekends i drive a dule fule VK Calais 5.0L everyday.

    As for power steering if you have every driven an escort you would know they don’t need power steering there like a gokart to drive and no 4.38 is not a typo a few mods on the 2.0L OHC engine which has 70KW, 93BHP standared my pumps out 151kw or 203bhp and ways just over 900kg make it very quick.

  • Escort_Ghia

    yes i ment 14.38

  • Devil’s Advocate

    The ‘M’ cars Wheelnut are built on a different line etc from the normal cooking 3 series. In fact if you do your research ‘M’ division make more modifications to the donor car than HSV do to theirs. I am not taking away from what HSV do as they do a good job with the base car, but they hardly change the base structure of a Commodore as much as what BMW do for the M3. Sure HSV fit wilder guards and the extremely good MRC shock absorbers, but they still use the same suspension mounting points etc. They just re-tune it to suit their application. The BMW M3 on the other hand has completely different suspension mounting points/arms/geometries than the cooking 3. There are also many more changes under the skin. It may look like a beefed up 3 series coupe, but underneath the skin it is a completely different car. As good as what it is, the W427 is still a $35,000 Commodore underneath with some well sorted add-ons. I am sure the W427 is an excellent car that has some advantage over some of the Euros, but at the end of the day, it is STILL a $155k Commodore with the cabin plastics etc that go with a $35k fleet car (however a lot of the BMW interior plastics these days aren’t much better!!!) By the way, I am not a Holden, Ford or Toyota fan. They all make good and bad cars!!! ;-)

  • Ivan

    The problem with this car is that Holden/holden fans say that this will be a classic (thus the high price).

    Correct me if i’m wrong, but isn’t a classic car called “classic” if it has acheived something in its lifetime? Something like crushing the competition in the track (touring car), an icon that would pulverise in the look and comfort department, etc etc….

    I don’t see anything like that relating to the W427. All it is is a limited edition, and that’s not worth $155k if it doesn’t achieve something special that the competitor ($155k or above) cannot achieve.

    I believe that the R35 GT-R “SHOULD” have been a limited edition…now that car has achieved something….and would be a car to be remembered as the supercar killer.

  • BC

    let’s get back to talking about the escort!

  • AKP

    Yeah, i hear they are as quick as a top fueler, and more comfortable too !!

  • Wheelnut

    Its not just Holden Fans that belive the W-427 will become a “Classic Collectable” in the Future – several Motoring Journalists say it will too.. Journalists who have driven more [performance] cars than you or I let alone most Holden fans ever will.

    Inorder to be considered a classic a car doesn’t necessarily have to have achieved a crushing victory on the track.. it can also be considered a classic because of its sheer performance; its design [the way it looks], its technological or engineering brilliance etc, or because it set a particular benchmark..

    Which the The W-427 did as its the fastest production car ever built in Australia.. Therefore; it qualifies

  • Escort_Ghia

    BC and AKP grow up so i missed out on the 1 wow.

    As for the VE SSV greate car but i would rather be seen in the escort becouse it is already a consider a classic something your VE SSV will never be.

  • LOL@kids

    A CarAdvice forum turning into a childish slanging match? Who would have guessed.

    Don’t cry kiddies, none of you even own a car anything like this.

    W427 v’s GT-R?

    None of you will every own either… so why compare?

    Oh, and I hear Nissan have removed the launch control cause they are sick of replacing dead gearboxes at US30k a pop.

  • http://caradvise.com.au schah7

    Wheelnut “that” 57 Chev Drag Car of Victor Bray
    runs a Chrysler v8 not a Super Chev v8

  • Racer

    LOL@kids you must be psycic, how would you know who owns what on this forum. Whats next weeks lotto numbers???

  • The Realist

    Wheelnut Says:
    December 18th, 2008 at 11:17 am
    “Inorder to keep the price of their cars relatively competitive with other Luxury Performance Sports Sedans manufacturers including HSV base their cars on a tried and tested car such as the Commodore and then simply make a range of enhancments and improvements”

    I wouldn’t call the W427 luxury mate – a $50K Accord hs more luxury appointments. Problem is for a $155K car the W427 is a vehicle with features comparable to a $40K car, not $150K.

  • BC

    LOL@Kids. I currently drive a White 40th Anniversary VE GTS and am picking up a W427 on the 5th of Jan. Care to share any more words of wisdom with the viewers.

  • realcars

    I agree this will be a collectible but will take a while to appreciate beyond the asking price.

    Nice car but probably overpriced as are the other cars mentioned.

    is-f LOL.

  • Wheelnut

    To all Holden/HSV fans – An article in the Jan09 issue of Motor says HSV are looking at adding intercooled Turbo Diesel to their line up.

    At the moment there are a couple of “mules” driving around powered by a 3.0 litre inline 6 cylinder diesel from BMW.. The other option though is BMWs 4.4 litre V8 diesel which produces more power than the W427

    Which means if the plan goes ahead you could be either an Aussie Bogan or a Bavarian Bogan.

  • Wheelnut

    Schah – I know but Victors 57 Chev is probably one of Australias most well known dragsters. His son Ben Bray has a Holden Ute with a 2500hp V8 in it but it ain’t a Holden V8 – I think its a Keith Black “Special”

  • JAMIE WHINCUP IS A LEGEND

    427 recalls and trips back to the dealership, this is an overpriced COMMON BOMBODORE…

  • Alex

    Yes BC, I do know there are lot of Mercedes-Benz’ as taxis in Europe, but they are not coupes, and they are certainly not CLK500s.
    I don’t think this will ever be more valuable than it is new. Apart from anything, it would take fifty years to be valuable and I don’t think petrol will be available for cars by then, and if it is, it will probably be rationed to amounts too small to ever let this car stretch it’s legs. Not to mention the fact that $155,000 isn’t that much money and they can’t shift 427 new ones, what makes anybody think they will be able to shift old “classics” at say, $300,000? $400,000? in another forty or fifty years? And of course from time passing and money changing, it would have to be more like $1,000,000 by then and I don’t think anybody would pay that and rightly so – it’s a Holden!

  • Wheelnut

    Quote [Pablo = from the Topic to do with TRDs being axed]

    I can’t imagine HSV not building 427 of the W427 model due to their customers telling them they want exclusivity.
    Car Advice reported back in July that they will build less than 427 “if there is an unlikely lack of demand.”
    Times are tough & HSV have realised if they keep building these things they will eventually have to discount them to get them shifted – not something that will be done on a collectable car.

    Pablo – that is the situation at the moment yes times are aboit tough and sales are down across the board.
    However; Unlike TRD which is ceasing production of their cars HSV will continue.

    Therefore; if things pick up they will be able to re-introduce the W-427 and make the remaining 227 cars

    Anyway in the past car companies/dealers have done various things including reduce prices inorder to shift slow moving stock.. and in a number of ases those cars have become classic collectables – the XC Cobra for example.

    Unfortunatley though its Highly unlikely the TRD will become a Collectable held in the same esteem as the Cobra