woo that’s one ugly mother!!
Calm down Cupid, put a real bullbar and steps and stuff on her and she wouldn’t look too bad.
That’s a really nice tray, must say I’m proud to see Car Advice review another vehicle with a dropside tray
That tray is quality. I wouldn’t want to put anything in it! I’m evaluating a Ranger dual cab ute 4×2 High Rider (same ground clearance as the 4×4, same tyres too!). I find the rear does bounce around a bit. I would expect the 4×4 with it’s heavier drivetrain to absorb some of this. Great to see the 4×4 capability and towing is up there. I am sometimes sceptical of the capabilities of a 4×4 ute compared to a 4×4 wagon however your towing of the Hilux was a good demonstration and Mazda should be very happy with this. I like how you covered the numberplate of the Hilux before taking the photo!
These are pretty much in almost run-out stage
A whole new generation Ford/Mazda Ute is coming out, designed in AUS built in Thailand [Ute centeral!]no news yet about it [well they are not saying] other than “class leading”
Some interior photos of this would have been nice…
I looked at one, the 2x jump seats are RUBBISH, my bench seat Falcon has a better seat in it, more room and comfort.
If you dont need 4×4 just buy the SUPERIOR Falcon like mine, drives like a car and only 0.05c/km on LPG
How long will your falcon last towing 3 tonne…
Who designed these, Mazda or Ford?
when is the replacement due for release???
I havent read one single article about it. any links??
All i read ages ago was that the new one was Aussie designed.
lets hope that the aussie engineering makes it comfortable to drive.
the only thing in my mind that would get me out of a Falcon ute would be the prospect of a territory derived ute.
i just can not stand driving something that isnt comfortable and gutsy to drive.
the jap utes are shocking to drive.
lets hope the new Ranger/BT50 breaks the mould.
as usual though, the mazda will appear first.
I cant figure that out either
Sorry, no idea, perhaps they *may* say something at the Melbourne Motor Show [Of which C/A will be giving me a Press-Pass].
If i was buying a extra/dual cab it would be hard to pass up the D40 Navara, its a generation ahead of this FORZDA.
Wonder whats going to happen longterm, FOMOCO no longer own any of Mazda???
Auto companies are VERY secretive, cannot get a release date on the new haonda City, even though its shown on the website?
Just keep your ear to the ground.
ford still do own mazda shares.
they were smart in the way they re arranged it, it seems to have fooled many people into thinking ford arent a factor in mazda anymore
things will carry on as usual.
the money ford raised will see coin available to fund projects that will benefit mazda aswell.
if you read the fine print, ford will still pretty much control mazda, and its sealed in a way that no other manufacturer can jump in and leech off of their future developments
I agree that the Navara is the hands down best looker
If i could bring myself to buy a japper, it would be the navara
Yep, I agree, the Nissan is the best looker. Pity about the turbo lag, lack of low end grunt, unreliable common rail, crap axles, gearboxes, etc
I find the hiluxes and navaras to almost be a next size up from the colorado/isuzu, bt and ranger – more so in the ute body than the tray type – whether this is just optical or supported by dimensions i have never looked into.
Ford still own atleast 10% of mazda.
Whilst the general appearance and shape hasn’t changed all that much, mnazda have just released the new model frugal one. Run out has just been (picked up my new one as a run out deal). So any new vehicle would be atleast 12 – 18 months away minimum i would imagine……. unless ford are going to access the new model first and not have a series 2 of the current shape???
New updated Ford Rangers are coming off the production line at the moment. They look very similar to the Ranger Max Concept that was released a few months ago to coincide with the Thailand Auto Show. No details of the interier or performance have surfaced yet either.
However they are just an update on the existing Ranger and not the much anticipated T6 being designed and engineered in Australia.
Navara, Hilux, Triton and Rodeo/Colarado/D-Max are all a size above the Ranger/BT-50 in width and cabin length as they are designed to be larger than some Japanese Road regulation that stipulated a 1,700mm width for delivery vehicles.
Interesting that the Navara and Rodeo/Colarado/D-Max have either zero or next to zero underbody protection, but that probably points to “on road only” demographic that the company’s are targeting.
Well done WaterHead^^
That’s it, “T6″ what i was refering to.
Really makes no differance, Ute market is owned by HiLux
PS/ New VW Ute looks interesting, pity about the price!
how far off is the aussie “T6″
thats when everything else seems to be arriving
It was very smart of Ford to off load some of its Mazda share. It raised some cash and still left it with a great arangement with Mazda. This is probably the best “marriage” of two car companies in history.
I must say thanks to Ford for saving Mazdas life years ago as I have owned both makes and have been very happy with both. Much better than the Holden\Daewoo disaster.
I have owned Fords Mazdas Holdens thow not for long lol also chryslers and a Magna and now i have gone back to a all Ford house hold and happy with my Australian made cars my Tezza and Falcon
nice call sign by the way Cupid….
no need for us to ask you “hows it hanging” because its there for everyone to see….
now for my call sign……
how do i make the letter “I” appear bigger…………… ha ha ha ha
Sadly, Frugal One is correct in that the ute market is owned by Hilux, but as usual Hilux is far from the best ute in that segment. Bone jarring ride is standard across the range, it’s just a shame Toyota decided to cut costs and not supply the necessary kidney belt. These Mazda/Fords are a lovely drive on the road.
Great ute, great review……zoom zoom.
Mazda just gave the BT a fresh up and the Ranger will be out around March as this was only cosmetic.
The BT/Ranger utes have made a notch for themselves within the the market but to see a Lolux get snatched from the sand by a Mazda was so rewarding…
and Mazda are doing great deals on the BT range at the moment as we have just ordered a DX 4X2 auto dual cab for work as it was a better price than Ford and we didn’t have to get white.
Well done Mazda once again.
ID LOVE TO HAVE ONE OF THESE AT THE AIRPORT, I CAN SEE LLOYED PORT LEWIS WITH ENVY AS I ROCK UP THE TARMAC IN A BT 50, WITH MY FISHING ROD HOLDERS, AND MY TWO AUSTRALIAN FLAGS TIED TO THE BACK. IT WOULD BE SUCH A LAUGH FOR A FAT MAN LIKE ME
I have just bought diesel BT50 ute and put slide on camper on back[+ air bags].Had a Telstra bloke over and he says Telstra have had some problems with Rangers jumping out of 5th gear. Anyone heard of this problem? I buess the BT50 and Ranger gearboxes are the samr
An old problem, this one! I had a second-hand Mazda 4WD tray in 2002, and had problems with it jumping out of fifth gear. Apart from that, a lovely vehicle to drive, on-road or off. I had it for over 100,000km and it gave me very little grief.
At the moment I’m work in the bush in West Africa, and just like in Oz, most of the vehicles going around are the landcruisers!!
For a brief period we were allocated the over-rated Mazda 4-door BT-50. What a sh*t box that was!! After reading quite few positive reviews about it, i was looking foward to giving it a go… What a little poof mobile that is!! It’s too dam tiny, and jumps around too much on the tracks!!
It’s too tight, and too dificult for anyone with size 12+ boots to get out from the back… It lacks handle bars to help you get in, and as well sits way too low!!
Not to mention it’s engine feels a little too astmatic!!
No thank you!!
Can’t touch the Landcruiser or the hiluxes we got on site!!
Those cars are trully built for real working man in harsh conditions and minimal fuss!!
The word is right about the Rangers jumping out of 5th gear. Ford has a fix for it. All OK now. Seems it was only a limited number.
I own a BT 50, gearbox rebuild at 102,000 kms Mazda didn’t want to know about it, now at 130,000 engine has had it (cracked head) Mazda don’t want to know, $9500 plus GST and fitting for new engine.
DON’T BUY A BT50 FOR A WORK VEHICLE OR FOR TOWING
I have the 2.5 cab chassis on order.
A modern diesel for under 24k on the road looks like good value when the opposition want $$$$ more for less powerful utes.
The Ford Ranger is the same thing,so combined there are a lot of these in use.
Craig House said he has a duff gearbox and a duff motor. What do you do with yours, Craig. Maybe U need a landcruiser or a patrol!
Seems to me ever 4wd ute out of Thailand is over rated and definately too expensive.
i have been researching for 3 years and am now to scared to spend.
Navara D40 clutch and fuel economy problems
Navara D22 not to much wrong here ???
toyota hilux noisy and bad fuel economy
Ranger / bt 50 motors gearboxes clutches
all have appalling trim quality just have a look at a few lo km used
And the price check out UK prices and you will see what I mean At least 30 % too much
How about those Great Walls, aye? You can TELL they’re quality, far better than any Toyota, Mazda, Ford, Holden, Isuzu, and Nissan… NOT!
IT’s a pity that the BT50 is not as good as the older B2600. I had a 2WD dualcab B2600 with matching canopy for eighteen years and 240,000km. It travelled from Port Hedland in WA to Cradle Mountain in Tasmania and all places in between, and never let me down. In all that time, total replacements were limited to radiator at 150,000 and brake overhaul at 210,000 km. You can’t kill them with an axe !
I have a 2007 BT 50 with 78,000ks and 2months out of warranty..diff seal gone and oil ran out also oil leak on turbo. Mazda dont want to know. Has anyone had similar trouble? AND IM LADY DRIVER. hasnt been thrashed//
They have zero legal obligation once out of warranty. Potest with your wallet and buy a different brand next time.
Service is the key to all cars regardless of make
Man, who ever comes up with the ltr/100km is full of it. My last vehicle the Nissan Patrol likewise….grossly understated. My new BT-50 is an SDX 4×4 Auto and at BEST on highways will only give 13.9L/100….No way 9-10!!! even 11-12 and other owners of the same model too. That’s 430kms per tank (70L) 60 usable litres
I have owned my Ford Ranger spacecab since new Oct 2007, it is now approaching 75k. Touch wood it has been very reliable and other than the hood catch recall has only been to Ford for its warranty services.
Two points I have noticed as design flaws, the gearing is too high in first for a heavy load or towing on a hill start, Low range gearing could be a little lower as well.
Some drivers will ride the beautifully smooth dual mass clutch to get moving!….wrong!!! these units don’t like heat. My solution was to fit a cut out switch to the firewall relay that activates the front drive axle, described in detail on an Australian 4WD webste, this diallows the front axle to engage meaning two wheel drive low range can be utilised to do any steeper or heavy manouvering on a hard surface. Very simple modification!. Drive the clutch smoothly as an on /off device. As a professional heavy vehicle driver I see many styles of driving out there and some commercial tradies utes come in for more than their fair share of abuse particularly IMHO by younger drivers in the companies vehicle!! Also some of the loads placed on light commercial vehicles are unrealistic and the overhang of some traybacks on especially dual cab utes is looking for trouble ie the bent chassis that have occured in virtually all brands, although I think the Ford is beefy enough in this area. Also I would not fit airbags to these types of vehicle, uprate the leaf springs if more load is required, the chassis is designed with leafs and the strength is where the springs attach spread over a wide area not pivoting on one point at the crest of the curve of the chassis. I also own a locked and lifted Cruiser, love it and it is a quality built vehicle, but the new cost is easily double and more that of the base range of current 4WD utes out there! The Hilux is a good vehicle but not a Cruiser and its cost is not competitive in my opinion and it has also a number of complaints against it ie the auto over- heating issue. It has lost its lead over the current crop of trade utes around today.
I have added an aftermarket power chip sourced from O/S for considerably less than being supplied here in Aus and it has picked the torque up in the 1600-2500rpm range by a fair bit. Already one of the smoothest and economical 3 litre turbo diesels around the Mazda/Ford has very little turbo lag compared to the new Mitsibishi 2.5 (we have one at work) and with the chip will outrun the standard torque leader Nissan Navarra (405nm Navarra vs 380 nm Ford) effortlessly in my experience. (a good mate has the Navarra). Point being all these engines are capable of more reliable grunt if driven appropriately!
Features I would have liked, Tritons optional diff lock,
and maybe the auto all wheel drive capacity ,Hilux resale value! Front coil springs Triton/Navarra.
Features I like.
Excellent supportive front seats, quality
.Handbrake often critisised underdash unbrella type, allows more room in center console and is easy once you’re familiar with it.
Suicide doors on spacecab,Excellent rattle free, easy access once you have them hard to live without.
Good ride comfort although I do have tools and stuff in the back!
Reasonable turning circle.
Room for the fitment of 2nd battery box in engine compartment
Good economy average 10 per 100. (I live in a rural area).
Smooth grunty motor, puls quite steep long hills in 5th
Front shocks OK but will replace with a more controlling foam cell due to fitment of ECB alloy bullbar .Rear shocks have held up so far however will replace soon.
Original leaf springs have held up well so far!
A center dash panel that allows fitment of a second DIN
sized peice of equipment ie uhf radio. An aftermarket peplacement panel is available but a bit pricey.
Headlamps are large and have good reflectors however not up to the brightness of others, replaced looms and bulbs with higher rating.Fitted long range driving lamps
lloy wheels pretty average replaced with aftermarker alloys.
Original tyres very average, replaced at 40k with A/T type, much better grip and wear so far at 75k.
Fuel capacity at 70 litres is a bit less than I would prefer, living in a rural area 90 would have been possible looking at the space provided.
All in all though I have been happy with the Ranger and it has provided me with comfortable, reliable, economical and purposeful transport for a competitive price.
Someone forgot to mention the RUST problem.
Want to see a pic of one thats rusting before its even on the road.
visit http://www.rustymazda.sitew.com for pics and story.
I have a 2008 BT50 dual cab (purchased new) only thing I have found is the lack of ground clearance. Shame they don’t make them a little more “off road ready” when they come off the show room floor. The cost compared to the amount of ground clearance I would gain with an after market I can’t justify spending the money on it.Of course the fact that 80% of 4wd’s never go off road dictates the way they are built a real shame.