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Ford, GM to collaborate on nine- and 10-speed transmissions: report

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By Tim Beissmann
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Fierce automotive rivals Ford and General Motors will reportedly announce a partnership next month that will see the two Detroit-based manufacturing giants collaborate on next-generation nine- and 10-speed automatic transmissions.

The New York Times reports Ford Motor Company and GM will form an alliance to develop a number of high-ratio transmissions for their future passenger cars and light-commercial vehicles.

Insiders suggest the nine-speed transmissions would be equipped to front-wheel drive vehicles, while the 10-speed units would find their way into rear- and all-wheel drive models.

The deal is intended to dramatically reduce development and manufacturing costs of the gearboxes, which will be integral to both Ford and GM’s efforts to reduce the fuel consumption and emissions of their vehicles to comply with more stringent standards to be introduced in the US and Europe over the coming years.

Industry analysts predict the joint investment from both companies would likely reach US$1 billion ($975 million), with more than 500,000 transmissions to be produced every year.

Although there’s no friendliness between Ford and GM on the showroom floor, the two adversaries have put their differences aside in the past for a similar mutually beneficial cause.

Ten years ago, they announced an agreement to co-develop and produce a six-speed gearbox for front-wheel drive models. The transmission – dubbed 6F by Ford and 6T70 by GM – reached production in 2006, and has since been applied to more than eight million vehicles across approximately 30 different nameplates.

Developing transmissions in-house allows manufacturers to more precisely tailor the components to suit their needs and also eliminates high royalty costs for licenses and intellectual property rights charged by gearbox specialists like Germany’s ZF (nine-speed pictured above) and Japan’s Aisin.

The new nine- and 10-speed Ford/GM transmissions are expected to reach the market from 2015.

  • Damian

    This is the only way GM can mitigate their fuel consumption woes caused by their old ‘there’s no substitute for cubic inches’ mentality. 

    • F1orce

      It’s always nice to have a 3L+ engine.

  • Sumpguard

      This is fear of others dominating the market with transmission advancement. Something both ford and GM lag behind in. Advancement in this area is key to improving fuel economy.

        I never thought I’d see the day these two aligned but in terms of survival this is a smart move! 

    • Zaccy16

      yeah very smart, would be ALOT cheaper than askin aisin or ZF!

  • Legnab

    LAME

    • Monk

      But the 8 and 9 speed transmissions currently in or proposed for your Euro dream cars are completely reasonable? 
      I think we can all see who is lame.

      • Legnab

        Not my comment monkfish the imposter legnab , sapper zero , although he’s probably right why make your own .

  • Modern Man

    Why not produce an infinty ratio gearbox?????

    OH WAIT!

    That would be a CVT

    • Gust

      its not infinty.
      There is only a set number of places the gears can sit & a limited number of movements.

  • ABCDEFG

    Merc had a go at it’s rival and said that Lexus was showing off when Lexus released an 8-speed auto. Merc had only a 7-speed auto at the time. What say you now Merc about the Ford’s and GM’s 10-speed auto??

    • Daz

      Surely das leiter has an 11-speed in a storeroom somewhere?

  • Pro346

    2 speed power glide transmissions are still used by Mega power cars 1000hp plus…old school rules!

  • Vti07

    Im fairly certain parts sharing between brands is quite common. For example, the interior light cover in earlier falcons also has a GM logo and part number stamped on it.

  • tiddy

    This all makes sense to me, these two have massive engineering capabilities between them, so if they can make this work without a clash of ego’s I cant see have it wont benefit either of them….besides as was said before, why pay someone to do if you can do it yourself better & cheaper.

  • Zaccy16

    The gear ratios would be very close together in a 10 speed! the gearbox would be changing gears constantly!

    • trololololol

      And with advances in modern tech you wouldn’t even notice it doing so!

    • Gust

      Driven an 8speed. and couldnt even feel the changes

  • Valet_dabess

    10, what next? 15?

    • Lotsamoolah

      CVT has infinite ratios, that’s more than 100000000000000000000000000 “gear ratios” lolx

      • Gust

        “more than 100000000000000000000000000″
        is less than infinite. alot less.

  • Gaza

    sounds like they expect most cars in the future to be powered by motorbike sized engines – higher revving/narrower powerband – needing lots of gears  .. as part of a hybrid  …. how depressing

    • F1orce

      Diesels also qualify for ‘narrow power bands’

      But the new diesels seem to have mitigated that problem?..

    • birdie

      There are quite a few motorbike engines that are bigger than some car engines

  • F1orce

    Actually making all parts ‘in-house’ makes less sense from an economic perspective than sourcing parts from suppliers such as Aisin..

    But these are just transmissions, I’m sure the other 10,000 parts come from suppliers such as Aisin

  • Peanut

    Maybe Ford & Holden should be working on the next Large Car Platform together here as well.
    It will save costs and make it more viable.

  • Stumpy

    Mines bigger than yours, because my bicycle has 21 gears. So there!

  • Gaza

    diesels have narrow powerbands? … what diesel are you talking about F1orce … you’re kidding aren’t you … not sure what you’re on … but it must be expensive ?
    diesels have 2 things going for them …. grunt down low and perfect for turbos as you don’t need to cool the mix … the hotter the better … no intercooler required 
    guess what Audi runs at LeMans … turbo-diesel hybrids …. murdered everyone
    the only future for large V8-type cars in AU is LPG …. we have loads of it …. why don’t the locals design a  standard car around it …. and  …. race it …. (& get Govt backing). Indycars have used methanol for yonks … otherwise we’ll be racing turbo-diesel hybrids at Bathurst in the next 5 years… turbo diesels sound a bit like a low level fart going past … scintilating