However; if they sold it as something with more exposure a better reputation etc such as a Chevrolet more people will buy them. They could sell it as either the new Impala or Malibu or even bring back the Beretta name

It makes sense really given that the Commodore is powered by a Chevrolet/Corvette V8. It’s sold as a Chev in the Middle East and the Sheiks love em

Although given that GMs financial problems and are now in a restructuring/streamlining process I think GM is likely to get rid of Pontiac [as well as Buick] and keep the more widely known brands such as Chevrolet and Cadillac

If Pontiac marketed them better, had more in stock, and the general auto market didn’t suck so bad right now, the G8’s would be a huge hit. The dealer I went to had them flying out the door with the Red Tag Sale GM was running.

However it would probably be illegal to claim the commodore is a “product of australia”.

www . austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tpa1974149/s65ab.html

www . austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tpa1974149/s65ac.html

Retort as much as you like Tomas but Holden is Australian so get the F..k over it!

I will repeat myself from last night Tomas

““Management bonuses will be slashed 10 percent at Toyota as a result of the global economic slowdown. About 5,000 managers will take cuts as the Japanese automaker reels from falling global sales that are hitting its local market hard. Toyota vehicle sales in Japan dropped 27 percent in November (excluding 660cc minivehicles) and Lexus sales dipped 24 percent — mirroring the same sales issues that both brands are having in the United States. As a result, the Japanse Juggernaut will halt production for two days on one of the Tahara production lines manufacturing the Lexus LS, GS and IS models, which will prevent about 5,000 luxury cars from being built, and idle another factory in southern Japan for two days, as well. Toyota is also expected to announce lower sales and production estimates at its year-end press conference that happens at the end of this month. That news will follow the 1 trillion yen ($10.7 billion) yanked just last month from its annual operating profit forecast.

Everyone is in the crap in America including Toyota……..so stop putting the boots into Holden.

As I said before the definition basically says a product is regarded as being Australian Made if it is made, procuced or assembled here to the point where it is a sale able item or a finished product.
Therefore the commodore meets the Australian Made criteria

Finally you understand what I was getting at you finally admit it Tomas.. The Commodore is Locally Assembled the Cmmodore is Australian Made.. see it wasn’t that hard was it?

The Commodore is assembled/made here using parts sourced from both here and overseas… therefore; its an Austrralian made car. Because until holden bolts/welds the various components together and wires it all up like the ecu engine gearbox diff beakes suspension and body panels etc each component individual is useless as it cannot perform its intended function nor is there anything for it to do – nothing to power/drive it and nothing for it to power/drive… until then they are just lumps of metal

On Topic – GM plans to make Pontiac a Niche brand. isn’t Pontiac a Niche brand already? given that Niche brands usually don’t sell that many cars infact they would be lucky to sell more than 10 a month….. Pontiac is already there isn’t it?

However; None are as blind as those who don’t wantr to see… and none are as deaf as those who don’t want to hear.

You still believe that the Commodore [and the Falcon] are made in America … if that’s the case whats the huge grey building on the Phillip Highway in Elizabeth SA full of robots panels seats brakes diffs suspension and other components…and cars which look exactly the same as a VE Commodore rolling out the back door?…. A Mirage.

But the Holden fanatics will never see it…
All your points try to drag the argument elsewhere…

Hey, Toyota aren’t losing money.

“Management bonuses will be slashed 10 percent at Toyota as a result of the global economic slowdown. About 5,000 managers will take cuts as the Japanese automaker reels from falling global sales that are hitting its local market hard. Toyota vehicle sales in Japan dropped 27 percent in November (excluding 660cc minivehicles) and Lexus sales dipped 24 percent — mirroring the same sales issues that both brands are having in the United States. As a result, the Japanse Juggernaut will halt production for two days on one of the Tahara production lines manufacturing the Lexus LS, GS and IS models, which will prevent about 5,000 luxury cars from being built, and idle another factory in southern Japan for two days, as well. Toyota is also expected to announce lower sales and production estimates at its year-end press conference that happens at the end of this month. That news will follow the 1 trillion yen ($10.7 billion) yanked just last month from its annual operating profit forecast.

mmmmmmm Tomas ,seems to me the bigger ones do fall harder . Things are going to get worse for them before they get better,it may affect Holden in this country to lose some sales but no where as much as it affects Toyota in their largest market,the USA .