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		<title>By: Bigmat</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/19063/ford-engine-plant-in-geelong-to-stay/#comment-131600</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did a 2000 km drive over 2 days in my BF F6 Manual Typhoon, average economy 11.1 l/100 km for 82 km/h average (in NZ not easy to maintain a higher average). Actually for the first 1700 km it was averaging 10.5 l/100 km Average speed 76 km/h, it was just a spirited drive for the last 300 k&#039;s. I think the I6 is the best method of meeting users needs in real world driving conditions. BTW ain&#039;t those Commy v8&#039;s still pushrod 2V engines with basic design dating back to 1955, they honestly go alright all things considered.
But I still want I6 Turbos in my future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did a 2000 km drive over 2 days in my BF F6 Manual Typhoon, average economy 11.1 l/100 km for 82 km/h average (in NZ not easy to maintain a higher average). Actually for the first 1700 km it was averaging 10.5 l/100 km Average speed 76 km/h, it was just a spirited drive for the last 300 k&#8217;s. I think the I6 is the best method of meeting users needs in real world driving conditions. BTW ain&#8217;t those Commy v8&#8242;s still pushrod 2V engines with basic design dating back to 1955, they honestly go alright all things considered.<br />
But I still want I6 Turbos in my future.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/19063/ford-engine-plant-in-geelong-to-stay/#comment-103456</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thinkin about a DI 2010 F6.. yum, great to hear the engine will live on alittle bit longer, LPG xr6 for me when it comes :)

off topic question if anyone has any knowledge, the only engines i know of that have cylinder shutdown are american pushrods and honda&#039;s SOHC 3.5, is there something stopping cylinder shutdown with DOCH setup&#039;s? been trying to research it on the net but cant really find what im lookin for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thinkin about a DI 2010 F6.. yum, great to hear the engine will live on alittle bit longer, LPG xr6 for me when it comes <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>off topic question if anyone has any knowledge, the only engines i know of that have cylinder shutdown are american pushrods and honda&#8217;s SOHC 3.5, is there something stopping cylinder shutdown with DOCH setup&#8217;s? been trying to research it on the net but cant really find what im lookin for</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 02:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davo,
im firstly interested to see how much work they put into the LPG falcon with out the thought of hybrid tech.

I cant wait to see how much effort they have put into the E-Gas falcon when it is upgraded in jauary

The Last Word,
your figures mean nothing
real world testing shows the falcon drinking under 10L, and the accord over 10L
also even though the falcon seems to have less power, it is clearly faster than the Accord.
also what is not stated is the rev ranges for power and torque.
the falcon is easier to drive thanks to its massive torque advantage, coupled with the idle style revs it reaches it at.
the honda can keep its 7kw advantage because i am not fooled by a paper figure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davo,<br />
im firstly interested to see how much work they put into the LPG falcon with out the thought of hybrid tech.</p>
<p>I cant wait to see how much effort they have put into the E-Gas falcon when it is upgraded in jauary</p>
<p>The Last Word,<br />
your figures mean nothing<br />
real world testing shows the falcon drinking under 10L, and the accord over 10L<br />
also even though the falcon seems to have less power, it is clearly faster than the Accord.<br />
also what is not stated is the rev ranges for power and torque.<br />
the falcon is easier to drive thanks to its massive torque advantage, coupled with the idle style revs it reaches it at.<br />
the honda can keep its 7kw advantage because i am not fooled by a paper figure</p>
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		<title>By: TheLastWord</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheLastWord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honda website says the V6 Accord consumes 10.0L/100km

Falcon website says the XT Falcon consumes 10.5L/100km

(both of the above figures are with 5spd autos)

Now the falcon produces 195kW/391Nm
V6 Accord: 202kW/339Nm

The Accord supposedly has Variable Cylinder Management - well it sounds pretty underwhelming to me!

And Honda has nothing that comes even close to the XR6 Turbo which has 270kW and 11.7L/100km</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honda website says the V6 Accord consumes 10.0L/100km</p>
<p>Falcon website says the XT Falcon consumes 10.5L/100km</p>
<p>(both of the above figures are with 5spd autos)</p>
<p>Now the falcon produces 195kW/391Nm<br />
V6 Accord: 202kW/339Nm</p>
<p>The Accord supposedly has Variable Cylinder Management &#8211; well it sounds pretty underwhelming to me!</p>
<p>And Honda has nothing that comes even close to the XR6 Turbo which has 270kW and 11.7L/100km</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is speculation by me,but just wonder if an LPG hybrid using an all alloy 3.5l or 4.0l version of this engine is in the pipeline.
Hyundai have announced one &amp; more will probably follow.
Given the government handout which will have strings attached &amp; the stated objective to make &quot;greener&quot; vehicles,
something will give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is speculation by me,but just wonder if an LPG hybrid using an all alloy 3.5l or 4.0l version of this engine is in the pipeline.<br />
Hyundai have announced one &amp; more will probably follow.<br />
Given the government handout which will have strings attached &amp; the stated objective to make &#8220;greener&#8221; vehicles,<br />
something will give.</p>
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		<title>By: MacAttack</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YYEEEEEHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YYEEEEEHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Minnow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greeny, your right theres nothing interchangeable. The Filters used to be Z9 (Ryco) or AFL1 (motorcraft) up until the BA. But with the BF the changes to motor including lower idle, requiring changes to maintain oil pressure the filter was reduced in size and now is a Z516 filter. The only similarity is with a EA, the engine block itself is identical. For example a Head gasket used on a 3.9L can be used on a AUIII. 

Misinformed numb-nuts please stop blurting out BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greeny, your right theres nothing interchangeable. The Filters used to be Z9 (Ryco) or AFL1 (motorcraft) up until the BA. But with the BF the changes to motor including lower idle, requiring changes to maintain oil pressure the filter was reduced in size and now is a Z516 filter. The only similarity is with a EA, the engine block itself is identical. For example a Head gasket used on a 3.9L can be used on a AUIII. </p>
<p>Misinformed numb-nuts please stop blurting out BS.</p>
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		<title>By: Greeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DOOF.....inferior I6 engine?? What is it inferior too exactly? Power torque economy refinement performance reliability.......gee what a crap engine !!!!!  Do you drive a Holden?? From your comment you must be a Vibration Tech engine owner....VE V6 4 speed auto....now thats an inferior car !!!!1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DOOF&#8230;..inferior I6 engine?? What is it inferior too exactly? Power torque economy refinement performance reliability&#8230;&#8230;.gee what a crap engine !!!!!  Do you drive a Holden?? From your comment you must be a Vibration Tech engine owner&#8230;.VE V6 4 speed auto&#8230;.now thats an inferior car !!!!1</p>
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		<title>By: Greeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how is the latest engine related to the 1960&#039;s old pushrod engines? Why do people keep saying this ? It is so annoying and stupid. So its an inline 6 cyl internal combustion engine built in Geelong.....is this what they mean? I know there are no parts of the engine that are anywhere near the same exept maybe the oil filter so where is this relationship to the 60&#039;s engine ??  all internal combustion engines are related to the 1876 Otto engine .......internal combustion engines are not a new idea !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is the latest engine related to the 1960&#8242;s old pushrod engines? Why do people keep saying this ? It is so annoying and stupid. So its an inline 6 cyl internal combustion engine built in Geelong&#8230;..is this what they mean? I know there are no parts of the engine that are anywhere near the same exept maybe the oil filter so where is this relationship to the 60&#8242;s engine ??  all internal combustion engines are related to the 1876 Otto engine &#8230;&#8230;.internal combustion engines are not a new idea !!</p>
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		<title>By: DOOF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DOOF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The REAL reason the inferior i6 lives is the current exchange rate has killed of the much more expensive US built V6.

Its a bean-counter decesion of which in this case the workers win which can only be good

Cheers

DOOF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The REAL reason the inferior i6 lives is the current exchange rate has killed of the much more expensive US built V6.</p>
<p>Its a bean-counter decesion of which in this case the workers win which can only be good</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>DOOF</p>
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