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	<title>Comments on: 2008 KIA Rondo7 &#8211; Long Term Evaluation</title>
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		<title>By: Ken D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been driving the base model automatic Rondo for the last few weeks as a loan car and I&#039;ve found it to be a nice car for the price. I do agree that it needs that extra power when fully loaded but for general driving around town, school runs etc it&#039;s fine. I found the extra seats handy when I needed to take the extra kid or two with me while general driving it was basically a five seat wagon with lots of room.

I do question why KIA didn&#039;t bring it in with the 2.4 litre 4 cylinder with the 5 speed Auto from the Magentis or even a Diesel option.

From the American web page, I&#039;m sure the car is available with the 2.7 V6 with the 5 speed Auto from the Magentis (Optima in the US). This again would be a good option.

Anyway, for the price of a mid spec Toyota Corolla Hatch with 1.8, 4 speed Auto, you can get this with more carrying capacity and 7 seats. Both my wife and I like it and when i&#039;m due to replace my car, I will visit the KIA dealer near me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been driving the base model automatic Rondo for the last few weeks as a loan car and I&#8217;ve found it to be a nice car for the price. I do agree that it needs that extra power when fully loaded but for general driving around town, school runs etc it&#8217;s fine. I found the extra seats handy when I needed to take the extra kid or two with me while general driving it was basically a five seat wagon with lots of room.</p>
<p>I do question why KIA didn&#8217;t bring it in with the 2.4 litre 4 cylinder with the 5 speed Auto from the Magentis or even a Diesel option.</p>
<p>From the American web page, I&#8217;m sure the car is available with the 2.7 V6 with the 5 speed Auto from the Magentis (Optima in the US). This again would be a good option.</p>
<p>Anyway, for the price of a mid spec Toyota Corolla Hatch with 1.8, 4 speed Auto, you can get this with more carrying capacity and 7 seats. Both my wife and I like it and when i&#8217;m due to replace my car, I will visit the KIA dealer near me.</p>
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		<title>By: The Salesman</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-102258</link>
		<dc:creator>The Salesman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allot of success selling these to families who have a used people mover budget but don’t want a second hand car. Anthony i look forward to your reports, any evidence i find from motoring journalists make great reference points to prospective buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allot of success selling these to families who have a used people mover budget but don’t want a second hand car. Anthony i look forward to your reports, any evidence i find from motoring journalists make great reference points to prospective buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101743</link>
		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t compare Kia/Hyundai to Proton as they are their own car whereas Proton are still previous gen Lancer copies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t compare Kia/Hyundai to Proton as they are their own car whereas Proton are still previous gen Lancer copies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101710</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo,
The space between the last row of setas and the tailgate actually looks to be more than a Kluger, and it would want to be, because it IS a problem with the Kluger, as a medium suitcase will only just stand up in that area. come to think of it, it&#039;s generally a problem with most of these 7 seeters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo,<br />
The space between the last row of setas and the tailgate actually looks to be more than a Kluger, and it would want to be, because it IS a problem with the Kluger, as a medium suitcase will only just stand up in that area. come to think of it, it&#8217;s generally a problem with most of these 7 seeters.</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt aka No Name</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101671</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt aka No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VW Freak - your concerns about rear end shunts and your off-spring are unfounded, there are rules concerning crash intrusion. Short of being rear ended my the prostitute murdering truckers (aaaw shucks thats really funny isn&#039;t it Thomarse79) I think you&#039;d be safe.

Not a bad wagon especially for the money, if you want to afford a better(??) one for greater cost, then why comment. Strange!!!

Having sat in one at the motorshow the only comment I would have is the interiors are not a tough or well presented at the far pricier options. Pay yer money takes yer choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VW Freak &#8211; your concerns about rear end shunts and your off-spring are unfounded, there are rules concerning crash intrusion. Short of being rear ended my the prostitute murdering truckers (aaaw shucks thats really funny isn&#8217;t it Thomarse79) I think you&#8217;d be safe.</p>
<p>Not a bad wagon especially for the money, if you want to afford a better(??) one for greater cost, then why comment. Strange!!!</p>
<p>Having sat in one at the motorshow the only comment I would have is the interiors are not a tough or well presented at the far pricier options. Pay yer money takes yer choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You get what you pay for people! And on that basis this is a pretty good value car.

I am a bit of a snob when it comes to Kia, Proton and the like and rightly so. But this car is what it is, the most affordable 7 seater!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get what you pay for people! And on that basis this is a pretty good value car.</p>
<p>I am a bit of a snob when it comes to Kia, Proton and the like and rightly so. But this car is what it is, the most affordable 7 seater!</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of boot space would be my biggest beef...&amp; the lack of torque. Apart from that, it looks like a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of boot space would be my biggest beef&#8230;&amp; the lack of torque. Apart from that, it looks like a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101656</link>
		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.</p>
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		<title>By: graf</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101654</link>
		<dc:creator>graf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a Citroen Picasso with just about everything you could possibly imagine included and a 2lt diesel for $40K. Its been brilliant. 

When you spec up safety, economy and (some sort of) style with 7 seaters you get a very short list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a Citroen Picasso with just about everything you could possibly imagine included and a 2lt diesel for $40K. Its been brilliant. </p>
<p>When you spec up safety, economy and (some sort of) style with 7 seaters you get a very short list.</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VW Freak - a porsche 911 is better then a mazda mx5 as well, oh yeah right the price difference... mate your comparisons are rediculous, your comparing 50 grand cars to 30 grand cars, what the hell kind of drugs are you on? That&#039;s not even close to a valid comparison.

And &quot;what price tag do you put on your kids life&quot; geez come on man get a grip, not everyone can afford to spend 50k on a car you monkey! Some of us have to do the best we can with 30k, alot of people even less! And anyway are you suggesting all of those with families who don&#039;t own really big cars (because bigger always means safer...) are un-caring about the lifes of their families? come on mate, your being a nob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VW Freak &#8211; a porsche 911 is better then a mazda mx5 as well, oh yeah right the price difference&#8230; mate your comparisons are rediculous, your comparing 50 grand cars to 30 grand cars, what the hell kind of drugs are you on? That&#8217;s not even close to a valid comparison.</p>
<p>And &#8220;what price tag do you put on your kids life&#8221; geez come on man get a grip, not everyone can afford to spend 50k on a car you monkey! Some of us have to do the best we can with 30k, alot of people even less! And anyway are you suggesting all of those with families who don&#8217;t own really big cars (because bigger always means safer&#8230;) are un-caring about the lifes of their families? come on mate, your being a nob</p>
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		<title>By: Dlr1</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101649</link>
		<dc:creator>Dlr1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O, NZ laws basically say that if a car is compliant with relevant safety and emission standards in Australia, USA, EU or Japan then it is suitable for importation to NZ. So importers dont need to go through their own costly ADR compliance testing for each new model or engine that they wish to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O, NZ laws basically say that if a car is compliant with relevant safety and emission standards in Australia, USA, EU or Japan then it is suitable for importation to NZ. So importers dont need to go through their own costly ADR compliance testing for each new model or engine that they wish to sell.</p>
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		<title>By: O</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101633</link>
		<dc:creator>O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>doent new zealand have a diesel rondo? i think it is becuase new zealand uses other countries laws or something for its cars.Also new zealand gets a diesal corrolla!

{i dont live in new zealand im just dissapointed we dont get the corrolla wagon which looks better than the hatch]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doent new zealand have a diesel rondo? i think it is becuase new zealand uses other countries laws or something for its cars.Also new zealand gets a diesal corrolla!</p>
<p>{i dont live in new zealand im just dissapointed we dont get the corrolla wagon which looks better than the hatch]</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101624</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thing is crying out for a 2Lt diesel with 350NM of torque!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thing is crying out for a 2Lt diesel with 350NM of torque!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kluger starts at about 40k no? Th whole point of the Rondo is that its cheap and a lot of families with six or seven people can&#039;t afford a $40,000 Kluger. And it&#039;s much safer to get a Rondo (i don&#039;t know how anybody got the idea that it&#039;s unsafe, by the way) than a second hand Tarago or Carnival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kluger starts at about 40k no? Th whole point of the Rondo is that its cheap and a lot of families with six or seven people can&#8217;t afford a $40,000 Kluger. And it&#8217;s much safer to get a Rondo (i don&#8217;t know how anybody got the idea that it&#8217;s unsafe, by the way) than a second hand Tarago or Carnival.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VW Freak,

Anthony Crawford said that the Rondo has a good chasis, ie it handles well.

The Kluger drives like a truck, drinks fuel like a truck and handles like a truck.

I&#039;m not saying that the Rondo is anything special, as I haven&#039;t driven one, but I recently crossed the kluger OFF my list, mainly, because of the poor driving dynamics.

The Kluger is grossely over estimated and over rated by many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VW Freak,</p>
<p>Anthony Crawford said that the Rondo has a good chasis, ie it handles well.</p>
<p>The Kluger drives like a truck, drinks fuel like a truck and handles like a truck.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that the Rondo is anything special, as I haven&#8217;t driven one, but I recently crossed the kluger OFF my list, mainly, because of the poor driving dynamics.</p>
<p>The Kluger is grossely over estimated and over rated by many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rondo isn&#039;t a dead trap VWF, and anyway the Kluger is a SIX-cylinder 7-seat FWD with a SUV body. 
Apart from the Tarago&#039;s size, the $50k version doesn&#039;t offer that much over a Rondo. Plus the Tarago is ugly as sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rondo isn&#8217;t a dead trap VWF, and anyway the Kluger is a SIX-cylinder 7-seat FWD with a SUV body.<br />
Apart from the Tarago&#8217;s size, the $50k version doesn&#8217;t offer that much over a Rondo. Plus the Tarago is ugly as sin.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VW Freak, the Kia has safety in spades. Unlike Kluger&#039;s ESP system...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VW Freak, the Kia has safety in spades. Unlike Kluger&#8217;s ESP system&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VW Freak</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18736/2008-kia-rondo7-long-term-evaluation-vehicle/comment-page-1/#comment-101610</link>
		<dc:creator>VW Freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do value more Myke, your children&#039;s lives or your money? Actually, let&#039;s forget the 50K Tarago for a moment. Let&#039;s save 10K and go a Kluger KX-R seven seater. Now I&#039;m no Dingo, but I&#039;d rather either of these vehicles over the Kia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do value more Myke, your children&#8217;s lives or your money? Actually, let&#8217;s forget the 50K Tarago for a moment. Let&#8217;s save 10K and go a Kluger KX-R seven seater. Now I&#8217;m no Dingo, but I&#8217;d rather either of these vehicles over the Kia.</p>
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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tarago is hardly in the same league as a Rondo, the Rondo is about $25k cheaper. I think the Rondo is a very smart car, why should anyone pay over $40k for a 7-seat FWD People-Mover with a 4-cylinder? 

However I don&#039;t think that engine will cut it, with seven on board and luggage. Why don&#039;t we get a diesel in Oz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tarago is hardly in the same league as a Rondo, the Rondo is about $25k cheaper. I think the Rondo is a very smart car, why should anyone pay over $40k for a 7-seat FWD People-Mover with a 4-cylinder? </p>
<p>However I don&#8217;t think that engine will cut it, with seven on board and luggage. Why don&#8217;t we get a diesel in Oz?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good car in my opinion. Its not expensive, yet is also safe, looks quite handsome, clever interior and is a good overall package. And their engines are superb for durability (believe it or not).

Well done Kia, another Suzuki/Hyundai coming through...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good car in my opinion. Its not expensive, yet is also safe, looks quite handsome, clever interior and is a good overall package. And their engines are superb for durability (believe it or not).</p>
<p>Well done Kia, another Suzuki/Hyundai coming through&#8230;</p>
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