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China’s Great Wall, Chery hit by 23,000-vehicle asbestos recall

By Tim Beissmann
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Almost 24,000 low-cost Chinese vehicles produced by Chery and Great Wall have been recalled in Australia after the cars’ engine and exhaust gaskets were found to contain asbestos.

The recall affects approximately 21,500 Great Wall SA220, V200 and V240 utes, and X200 and X240 SUVs, as well as around 550 Chery J3 hatchbacks and 1700 J11 SUVs. The Chery J1 hatch is not affected by the recall.

The components in the affected vehicles will not be replaced immediately, however, with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) satisfied that as the asbestos is bound into the gaskets in the vehicles’ engine and exhaust systems, it does not present any risk to consumers during use of the vehicle. It insists, however, that servicing the vehicles’ engine and exhaust systems could disturb the gaskets, and warns owners against performing do-it-yourself maintenance.

“There is no asbestos-related health risk to the driver or any passengers who use the vehicle,” the ACCC explained in a statement. “The gaskets are tightly embedded in the vehicle and present no hazard during normal operation of the vehicle.

“Caution must be taken if carrying out maintenance. Procedures have been prepared and implemented to ensure that the gaskets are handled correctly by mechanics during maintenance of the vehicles.

“Any work involving these gaskets should be carried out by an authorised [Chery or] Great Wall dealer or a licensed motor mechanic who has been made aware of these procedures.”

Daniel Cotterill, spokesman for Ateco Automotive, the local importer of Great Wall in Australia since 2009 and Chery since 2010, said the distributor supported the decision by the ACCC for the components containing asbestos to be replaced only as and when they needed replacing, rather than for all the components to be replaced immediately.

Cotterill said an independent occupational health and safety specialist found there was “negligible” risk to service technicians given the “very small” amount of asbestos present in the components.

He insisted that if owners were concerned about the presence of asbestos in their vehicles, however, they could arrange with Chery or Great Wall to replace all the of affected parts free of charge.

Ateco has instructed all Chery and Great Wall dealers to ‘stop sale’ of affected vehicles and is recalling the gaskets that were distributed as spare parts. It has also ensured all newly supplied vehicles and replacement gaskets are asbestos-free.

Ateco says a letter will be sent to affected owners explaining that the gaskets will be replaced during normal in-service operation as and when it is required.

Owners are encouraged to contact Chery or Great Wall if they have any concerns about the presence of affected gaskets in their vehicles.

Ateco has prepared a safety training video and other materials to instruct automotive repairers on the safe handling and disposal of the gaskets, and has arranged for warning stickers to be placed in the engine bays of affected vehicles.

Customs and Border Protection officers first detected asbestos in imported spare parts from the two manufacturers earlier this year, prompting a safety investigation involving the ACCC, Ateco, the WorkCover Authority of NSW and the Department of Workplace Relations.

The importation and use of asbestos has been banned in Australia in 2004. Asbestos is a naturally occurring substance that was widely used commercially because it possesses a number of desirable properties including its sound absorption qualities; high tensile strength; heat, fire and electrical resistance; and affordability.

Prolonged inhalation of asbestos fibres can lead to serious illnesses, including lung cancer, mesothelioma and asbestosis.

ACCC deputy chair Delia Rickard said the automotive service industry was experienced in managing this risk, as vehicles sold in Australia prior to 2004 often featured gaskets that contained asbestos.

“Consumers and automotive repairers must be made aware that the risk may be present in these much newer vehicles,” Rickard said. “This is the focus of the recall campaign.

“The ACCC will monitor the recall and Workplace Health and Safety Authorities will monitor the workplace safety issues.”

The recall is the latest blow to the reputation of Chinese vehicles in Australia. Since their introduction three years ago, Australia’s three Chinese brands have been involved in eight safety-related recalls: four for Great Wall, three for Chery and one for Geely.


 

  • Jober As A Sudge

    Martin: In a sample taken in this very classroom,a state inspector found 1.74 parts per million of asbestos!
    Bart:  That’s not enough!  We demand MORE asbestos!
             

    • Noddy of Toyland

      I’m sure they’re doing asbestos they can.

  • jr

    Probably more asbestos in your house

  • Ima_Hogg

    Never heard of a car recalled for Asbestos

    • Jacob

      You are missing the point. 

      Its been illegal to import Asbestos in ANY form since 2004. 

  • nugsdad

    Should be off the market if the ANCAP doesn’t kill you the asbestos will

    • Paul

      Shows you that you can never trust a cheap Korean or chines car. These cars should be banned anyway.

      • Henry Toussaint

         Korean? Korean are way ahead of the chinese…

        • Paul

           BTW is was referring to cheap Korean cars not KIA and Hyundai.

  • Amlohac

    … really?

    And our government allows these death traps to still be on sale here?

    So what this tells me is, if the car doesnt kill you in an accident (which it probably will) the asbestos might?

    WHY DOES ANYONE BUY THIS S@*T!?!?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YQLKLFNYP3UFBFAGOV2LNDSREA Robert Ryan

       Poor inspection of these vehicles for suitability for Australian roads. All Chinese vehicle should be pulled from the market, like the US did with Chinese toys. Otherwise they will try  giving us more substandard products.

    • Jpoole33

      why ? what is wrong with the car

  • TG

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Chinese cars also contain melamine, BPA, dog and cat fur, or any other various nasties.

    • Captain Nemo®™

      I also wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t use lead based paint on these things.
       

    • Force-15

      I would not be surprised if there are toxic materials present in the interiors. A few months ago I had a look at a few Great Wall utes in a Rockhampton showroom and they had THE nastiest plastics I’ve ever seen in a car.

  • 3D4

    Who cares.. If you stupid enough to buy cheap knock off death trap, well there are the consequences…

    • Lachy

       Couldn’t agree more.

      You get what you pay for… and in this case you even get free asbestos thrown into the bargain!

  • Hemi hammered

    How many of you own or rent a pre 85 unit with an entry fire door?  Most are Asbestos with the bottom and tops exposed which you don’t see.

    • Michael Lock

      What, so this means it’s OK to just expose everyone to a bit more via a NEW Chinese vehicle spitting it out of the exhaust so we can all breathe it in. I have made a point of not living anywhere near asbestos…where possible e.g. houses or units that contain it.

      Also, ban these stupid death traps before too many people buy more of them, at least until they achieve 4 star. All passenger vehicles 3 or under should be banned, as they are just not good enough anymore in this day and age.

      • Paul

        Then they’d have to ban the 70 series land cruiser.  

        • Michael Lock

          not with the latest update, more safety equipment for standard now. This proves my point, ban 3 star or less and the manufacturer will very quickly make them conform, even commercial vehicles which are the worst.

          • Henry Toussaint

             It still gets three stars…so in your case, it’d be banned

          • Michael Lock

            Yep if that is true, ban all vehicles that do not obtain a 3 star rating no matter what brand….especially in the commercial vehicle range.
            Main reason I say this is because many, many business owners large and small buy vehicles mainly based on cheaper pricing hence they mostly choose lower star rated vehicles for their employees to drive. The only way this can change is to force ALL manufacturers of commercial vehicles to obtain 4 star so all vehicles purchases by businesses are at least considered safer for their employees to drive…Toyota are extremely lazy at this because their vehicles are great for the intended purpose but are not so great compared to others for safety. 

          • Michael Lock

            Yep if that is true, ban all vehicles that do not obtain a 3 star rating no matter what brand….especially in the commercial vehicle range.
            Main reason I say this is because many, many business owners large and small buy vehicles mainly based on cheaper pricing hence they mostly choose lower star rated vehicles for their employees to drive. The only way this can change is to force ALL manufacturers of commercial vehicles to obtain 4 star so all vehicles purchases by businesses are at least considered safer for their employees to drive…Toyota are extremely lazy at this because their vehicles are great for the intended purpose but are not so great compared to others for safety. 

          • Michael Lock

            Yep if that is true, ban all vehicles that do not obtain a 3 star rating no matter what brand….especially in the commercial vehicle range.
            Main reason I say this is because many, many business owners large and small buy vehicles mainly based on cheaper pricing hence they mostly choose lower star rated vehicles for their employees to drive. The only way this can change is to force ALL manufacturers of commercial vehicles to obtain 4 star so all vehicles purchases by businesses are at least considered safer for their employees to drive…Toyota are extremely lazy at this because their vehicles are great for the intended purpose but are not so great compared to others for safety. 

          • Michael Lock

            Yep if that is true, ban all vehicles that do not obtain a 3 star rating no matter what brand….especially in the commercial vehicle range.
            Main reason I say this is because many, many business owners large and small buy vehicles mainly based on cheaper pricing hence they mostly choose lower star rated vehicles for their employees to drive. The only way this can change is to force ALL manufacturers of commercial vehicles to obtain 4 star so all vehicles purchases by businesses are at least considered safer for their employees to drive…Toyota are extremely lazy at this because their vehicles are great for the intended purpose but are not so great compared to others for safety. 

          • Michael Lock

            Yep if that is true, ban all vehicles that do not obtain a 3 star rating no matter what brand….especially in the commercial vehicle range.
            Main reason I say this is because many, many business owners large and small buy vehicles mainly based on cheaper pricing hence they mostly choose lower star rated vehicles for their employees to drive. The only way this can change is to force ALL manufacturers of commercial vehicles to obtain 4 star so all vehicles purchases by businesses are at least considered safer for their employees to drive…Toyota are extremely lazy at this because their vehicles are great for the intended purpose but are not so great compared to others for safety. 

      • Hemi hammered

         No i don’t condone it at all.I agree with you. I actually wish they weren’t sold here at all. Sorry if i was misunderstood but i was just stating the unfortunate fact that it’s everywhere where most people wouldn’t realize.

        • Michael Lock

          point taken Hemi, I did misunderstand you initially. Looks like we both agree then, One last point, do you really think when these engines & exhausts are repaired (being chinese this will probably happen within 2 years), licenced mechanics are going to remember the heat tolerant gaskets have asbestos in them….not a chance. This is very slack from our government, the Chinese know asbestos is bad and they shouldn’t even be using it themselves.
          PS. Bet you wish SRT would join FPR, HRT & Nissan in the V8 Supercars next year, hey? Specially now they are not competing in NASCAR
          cheers 

      • james

        But the other side of the argument is, why shouldn’t the consumer be allowed to choose what they want to purchase with their own money?

  • Hemi hammered

    Well that’s the problem with asbestos, is when what it’s in is broken as apposed to a solid piece.  Like as you know what happens when you remove something with a gasket in the middle. It’s likely to break. They probably will not even know.

    As for the V8 Supercars, i’m still hoping for a miracle for next year especially with the news of Nascar.  I do believe that CAG taking responsibility’s for the distribution of Fiat and Alfa has a big part to do with it. I think they were told to focus on getting that sorted first.

    • Michael Lock

      Yeah, a half a dozen (or even 2) would look very, very imposing menacing the rest of the field like the schoolyard bully and his mates…”get out of my way…boof”. I’d even jump ship from Ford to follow SRT in V8SC if they did front a couple of cars…with Lowndes and Ingall driving……Bring on the Mopar Magic!!!!!

  • crouchy35

    Just because using materials containing Asbestos in 80′s buildings was standard practice, doesn’t mean it should be used in 2012.

    We know the concequenses so we shouldn’t be ignoring them.

  • AndyGF

    “looks like jim is in the dog house because he BROUGHT a great wall”. WOOF! WOOF!!
    (if you have not seen that TV advert then don’t worry about it ^_^)

  • Basil Exposition

    Just issue masks for the driver and passengers… Problem solved.

    • Bigjim

      P3 respirator should do the job

  • Feathers

    Have they got a suitable replacement, as my SA220 is about to have the head taken off for the second time in 25000km. Maybe they will service and shave the head this time instead of using a straight edge to see if it had twisted.

  • VIPval

    Amazing, we have people knocking a situation that if they were car lovers would know that before 2004 most gaskets and all a number of brake pads had asbestos in them.  The reason was that car makers could not find a material that would do the same job for a price. 

    Therefore we should recall all motor vehicles before 2004 and check them for asbestos and you will then have to remove all the gaskets around the exhausts and the motor.

    The ACCC noted that there is no danger to the occupants.

    Also didnt toyota recently recall a lot of toyota aurions and corollas for faulty fuel lines.  There are actual cases where these cars have burned and ford rangers had faulty cruise controls and in America people have died. 

    Question has a person died of asbestos so far in a Great Wall Motor vehicle.  Err No.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YQLKLFNYP3UFBFAGOV2LNDSREA Robert Ryan

       Asbestos is not Ebola, it takes years to cripple and eventually kill you.

    • Jacob

      Yes, we should recall all models made before 2004 known to have Asbestos parts and have them replaced pronto. 

      It is a cancer-causing agent and has been banned in 55 countries. 

      Canada still allows Asbestos mining the fools!!! 

    • Jacob

      Yes, we should recall all models made before 2004 known to have Asbestos parts and have them replaced pronto. 

      It is a cancer-causing agent and has been banned in 55 countries. 

      Canada still allows Asbestos mining the fools!!! 

    • Jacob

      Yes, we should recall all models made before 2004 known to have Asbestos parts and have them replaced pronto. 

      It is a cancer-causing agent and has been banned in 55 countries. 

      Canada still allows Asbestos mining the fools!!! 

    • Jacob

      Yes, we should recall all models made before 2004 known to have Asbestos parts and have them replaced pronto. 

      It is a cancer-causing agent and has been banned in 55 countries. 

      Canada still allows Asbestos mining the fools!!! 

    • Jacob

      Yes, we should recall all models made before 2004 known to have Asbestos parts and have them replaced pronto. 

      It is a cancer-causing agent and has been banned in 55 countries. 

      Canada still allows Asbestos mining the fools!!! 

  • zej

    I guess this brings new meaning to the phrase “unsafe and any speed”.

  • Angry

    purely discrimination towards Chinese product!!! As shameful as the attitude towards Chinese swimmer!!!  Everything made in China is not good. Simple donot use it from tomorrow. See how you cope.

    • JooberJCW

      Yeah but you can cope if chinese cars are not on the market.

  • Save It For The Track

    The fact is that products sold in Australia since 2004 are not supposed to contain asbestos. No discrimination at all. The fact that the Chinese cars currently being sold here are rubbish is also not discrimination.

    • No Fears

      Agree,to use discrimination arguement for this issue is unfair in itself.
      Regardless of where it comes from,the company importing a product must ensure it is compliant in all respects & for vehicles it is no different.Personally the horrid POS would not get through my front gate & they are a poor rendition of vehicles from the past.

  • NK

    CRIMINAL… PROSECUTE THE IMPORTER + BAN THE CHINESE CARS

  • Garrywhopper

    Did you know the Chinese hold 10 year old children captive and force them to work the asbestos mines. It’s a disgrace, a human violation that kills thousands a year

    • chook

      The buyers of chinese products wish you didnt point this out……..but im sure its true !!

  • Garrywhopper

    Did you know the Chinese hold 10 year old children captive and force them to work the asbestos mines. It’s a disgrace, a human violation that kills thousands a year

  • Garrywhopper

    Did you know the Chinese hold 10 year old children captive and force them to work the asbestos mines. It’s a disgrace, a human violation that kills thousands a year

  • Garrywhopper

    Did you know the Chinese hold 10 year old children captive and force them to work the asbestos mines. It’s a disgrace, a human violation that kills thousands a year

  • Jacob

    After every ANCAP test, take apart the just-crashed vehicle to check for Asbestos. 

    Simple and cost-effective. 

  • Jacob

    After every ANCAP test, take apart the just-crashed vehicle to check for Asbestos. 

    Simple and cost-effective. 

  • Jacob

    After every ANCAP test, take apart the just-crashed vehicle to check for Asbestos. 

    Simple and cost-effective. 

  • Jacob

    After every ANCAP test, take apart the just-crashed vehicle to check for Asbestos. 

    Simple and cost-effective. 

  • Jacob

    After every ANCAP test, take apart the just-crashed vehicle to check for Asbestos. 

    Simple and cost-effective. 

  • Oz

    Modern communism at its best

  • Oz

    Modern communism at its best

  • Oz

    Modern communism at its best

  • Oz

    Modern communism at its best

  • Oz

    Modern communism at its best

  • Passerby

    “There is no asbestos-related health risk to the driver or any passengers who use the vehicle,” the ACCC explained in a statement. “The gaskets are tightly embedded in the vehicle and present no hazard during normal operation of the vehicle.

    I am not a fan of Chinese cars but if ACCC can issue the aobve statement then it shouldn’t be a worry.

  • Grr

    24000 people just face palmed themselves!

    • John

       
       I know I have, I bought a x200 4 months ago and feel ripped off, if the car does not meet Australian Design Rules shouldn’t I be entitled to a refund???
       

      • jr

        John , car built after feb 2012 have no asbestos

        • John

          If that is the case then why are dealers no longer allowed to sell there current stock?? 
           
           

  • Rightindicators

    These manufacturers have a lot of catching up to do, not just design.

  • k8m8

    are you guys normal… its a great car… if you read the article its being replaced… worse faulty parts have been found in your more fancy cars… get a grip!!!
     

    • fail

      Great car … yes …. until some poor technician gets asbestos in his or her lungs ……

  • The Internet is full of fools

    Majority of the comments are from armchair experts

    • Patto

      The comments section is the scourge of the 21st century……………………………And yes I am aware of the irony of writing this in the comments section.
       

      • Lindsay

        The “diversity of views” in comments sections often makes up for the dryness of the articles on most websites.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wayne.blacker.14 Wayne Blacker

    Umm You do realise, that you are reading this on a Chinese made monitor, plugged into a Chinese made computer, whilst you sit on your Chinese made chair wearing your Chinese made clothes whilst your Chinese made iPhone sits idly by on your Chinese made desk…

    The Chinese have been supplying quality products to the west for DECADES.

    • Testaros_88

      All those things you mentioned are western products that are made in China. With Western products there are stringent quality control involved. Great Wall cars, however, are strictly Chinese and like everything that is owned solely by China there is no quality control of any kind to speak off. If you have lived in China for sometime you would realize that almost every product that has some kind controversy involving them.

      Western has standards while China has none. 

      • Testaros_88

        ^^^Oh and the comment above comes from a Chinese so I know what I am talking about…

    • Zaccy16

      They have been making quality chairs and tables but defiantly not quality cars. $20,000 is abit different to $50 dollars for a Chinese chair

    • TG

      FAIL POST!

    • Jacob

      Asbestos is an illegal product in Australia. 

      I thought competing car-makers take each other’s products apart to know what they are up to?

      Shouldnt a competitor to Great Wall have raised the alarm earlier? 

  • Guy Incognito

    Who the hell in their right mind buys these pieces of crap anyway? You get what you pay for. 
    Um and Wayne..no my computer is not Chinese made, its made in Malaysia. The clothes that Iam wearing right now are made in Mexico. I don’t have an iPhone, I have an old Nokia made in Finland (yes, it is actually made in Finland). My chair is made in Melbourne and my desk is made in Taiwan.
    So your argument that everything is “made in China” fails.

  • Weegee22

    Yeah get rid of these death traps nothing under 4 star Ancap should be sold in Australia!!!!!!! oh wait the Great wall X240 is 4 stars oh wait that cant be right.  The $55000 2012 nissan navara I just bought has the same rating.

  • Guest

    Guy
    Can you honestly confirm there is nothing from China at your home??

    • TG

      Yeah good one Passerby, duh! This stupid argument has been tried and tried again by the owners of GWs, Cherys and any other “whatever” name brands of Chinese rubbish cars.

      Most made in China stuff with a good name brand (i.e. Apple, Panasonic etc.) is built to the respective manufacturers’ high standard. These lesser name brands building cars don’t give a stuff, manufacturing cheap nasty rubbish. Quality vs poo.

  • Guest

    Guy
    Can you honestly confirm there is nothing from China at your home??

  • Zaccy16

    I cant understand how 24,000 people actually bought one of the chinese heaps of s**t in the first place. A Japanese used car for the same money would be a much better option

  • Fred-

    Smoking will kill you before a Great Wall will…. LOL

  • Foxshooter

    mmmmm I wonder about the workers that make those parts in China and their familes

  • Brian Huo

    There are different types of asbestos: white, blue, brown

    White Asbestos is actually the perfect additive for gaskets. If you could make a gasket out of any material you want… you would pick asbestos.

    They’re no more dangerous than talc powder(which often contains trace of asbestos), fine sanded hardwood which causes cancer or make up.

    Make up/suncreen is probably more dangerous because nanotechnology particles are 1000 times smaller. Whilst this allows make up or sunscreen(nano Zinc oxide or Titanium dioxide) to penetrate the skin, they also go deeper in the lungs’ alveoli.

    Cancer often occur due to prolonged irritation/inflamation/lesion.

  • Brian Huo

    All asbestos have been banned since 2004

    Yet cigarettes are still sold!.It’s a matter of choice, we say.

    Fireplaces using wood and producing carcinogenic ash, are still allowed. It’s about romance.

    We allow sodium nitrite in our meat. Keeps it authentic.

    Let’s not get started about the pesticides and herbicides we use.

    Let’s be honest here… it’s all about racial vilification

    • Andy

       So…you’re argument is “Well, there are other dangerous products out there so it’s okay!”

      Those products may very well be dangerous, but that doesn’t change the fact that asbestos, a highly dangerous material that can cause cancer and other respiratory problems, is in a motor vehicle when all absestos-related materials are forbidden.

      The fact that you are trying (in a very tiresome manner) to use racial vilification as an excuse means you are part of the problem, overlooking a dangerous product that should be removed/recalled until they are asbsetos free. Shame, shame, shame.

      • Silica and Sand

        That’s right.

        There are dangerous products out there… so many in fact that if you don’t take a sensible approach, you wouldn’t live.

        Asbestos is Magnesium silicate, Silica & Water… just like talc.

        Yep, that’s the same scented talcum powder that our nanna used under our armpits and on our bums when we were babies and which often contains asbestos, mined and crushed to the finest of baby powders.

        The ACCC’s actions are reasonable for the level of risk posed by gaskets containing asbestos and should keep misfortune away from those who might manage to extract magnesium silicate from a copper and iron alloy, crush it finely and breathe it in.

  • Al

    Pretty sure the company SUPPLYING the asbestos is a Commonwealth country (Canada)…