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		<title>By: Phill</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18611/toyota-corolla-packed-with-a-lil-action/#comment-129449</link>
		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some car ads are reaily dumb,Is Toyota saying Corollas are for Theiving Pussy&#039;s and kitterns???Bronze medal for them.4th Ford with there two fingers campain,If you invert the fingers you get a whole different meaning,Silver medal to Holden for there sportwagon line,&quot;It&#039;s a wagon with the word sport infront of it&quot;.But gold goes to Nissan for there X-trial ad,The car thats not for Pretenders,But has Boris the pretend crocodile in it,classic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some car ads are reaily dumb,Is Toyota saying Corollas are for Theiving Pussy&#8217;s and kitterns???Bronze medal for them.4th Ford with there two fingers campain,If you invert the fingers you get a whole different meaning,Silver medal to Holden for there sportwagon line,&#8221;It&#8217;s a wagon with the word sport infront of it&#8221;.But gold goes to Nissan for there X-trial ad,The car thats not for Pretenders,But has Boris the pretend crocodile in it,classic.</p>
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		<title>By: mrengine</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18611/toyota-corolla-packed-with-a-lil-action/#comment-129438</link>
		<dc:creator>mrengine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 05:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corolla is Australia&#039;s most reliable smart driving car however the new models are just too big to be named a corolla....they are alot larger than the old school camrys....what are you doing toyota ? wake up!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corolla is Australia&#8217;s most reliable smart driving car however the new models are just too big to be named a corolla&#8230;.they are alot larger than the old school camrys&#8230;.what are you doing toyota ? wake up!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: grant ennew</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18611/toyota-corolla-packed-with-a-lil-action/#comment-104406</link>
		<dc:creator>grant ennew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wheel nut,,, well you are a nut i understand why you use nut now i no.... ford and holdens are at the end of sales bannner... why then i&#039;ll answer you cause they are owned by the same company and just like coca cola and pepsi they want us to fight over witch is better, and well ford and holden or issusu and issusu do you see make the same shitty cars ... no brainer ... the little honest company gets the business smart thinking , we the customer are not dumb we see value for our dollars .... go toyota and as a fact there is and never was a car company soley owned in this country.....holden and ford american till sold out to issusu  ...japan owns the hole car industry so only the little guy is gunna give you that honesty...so support it don&#039;t knock it and wake up ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wheel nut,,, well you are a nut i understand why you use nut now i no&#8230;. ford and holdens are at the end of sales bannner&#8230; why then i&#8217;ll answer you cause they are owned by the same company and just like coca cola and pepsi they want us to fight over witch is better, and well ford and holden or issusu and issusu do you see make the same shitty cars &#8230; no brainer &#8230; the little honest company gets the business smart thinking , we the customer are not dumb we see value for our dollars &#8230;. go toyota and as a fact there is and never was a car company soley owned in this country&#8230;..holden and ford american till sold out to issusu  &#8230;japan owns the hole car industry so only the little guy is gunna give you that honesty&#8230;so support it don&#8217;t knock it and wake up &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: grant ennew</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/18611/toyota-corolla-packed-with-a-lil-action/#comment-104397</link>
		<dc:creator>grant ennew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remove the plastic feul tanks in all cars and give back the steel tank it is smarter than the tank that splits in less than 2-3 years or if you have an accident , walla bang you are gone ... burns burns burns.....you on fire.... to late you bought it...4x4 mit sub isi...get a real car toyota now jump...mr issusu you are wrong.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remove the plastic feul tanks in all cars and give back the steel tank it is smarter than the tank that splits in less than 2-3 years or if you have an accident , walla bang you are gone &#8230; burns burns burns&#8230;..you on fire&#8230;. to late you bought it&#8230;4&#215;4 mit sub isi&#8230;get a real car toyota now jump&#8230;mr issusu you are wrong&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: grant ennew</title>
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		<dc:creator>grant ennew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well all you lot should realise that you are not buying anything other than a badge made by issusu wow WOW  stand by honesty toyota not yet issusu , Corrola loyalty to the customer that&#039;s why it&#039;s the bigest seller in australia we like honesty,HONESTY... car manufactues wake up or just realise we are not dumb, keep rockin toyota and stay away from issusu the rip off company , they own holden ford mazda nissan etc most of the car industry...holden sold to issusu 1974 ford sold to issusu 1980 so why give anything to them for a product that kill&#039;s example mitubissi&#039;s burns...plastic plastic plastic where is the sub frames wake up australia and give us a real safety test on all cars and not let 1 company rule the market.....and lie to us .....&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well all you lot should realise that you are not buying anything other than a badge made by issusu wow WOW  stand by honesty toyota not yet issusu , Corrola loyalty to the customer that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s the bigest seller in australia we like honesty,HONESTY&#8230; car manufactues wake up or just realise we are not dumb, keep rockin toyota and stay away from issusu the rip off company , they own holden ford mazda nissan etc most of the car industry&#8230;holden sold to issusu 1974 ford sold to issusu 1980 so why give anything to them for a product that kill&#8217;s example mitubissi&#8217;s burns&#8230;plastic plastic plastic where is the sub frames wake up australia and give us a real safety test on all cars and not let 1 company rule the market&#8230;..and lie to us &#8230;..&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Juraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Juraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE Wheelnut: &quot;If it’s got enough to kill the bogan cars; despite the fact that you can’t really compare them as its RWD vs FWD….
then why is the Aurion - in both standard and TuRD form unable to outsell the Falcon and Commodore [incl FPV n HSV]

I mean given that the Aurion [supposedly] has better engineering, more power and is more refined then surely it would be a “no brainer” to go for the Aurion… Bearing in mind that according to the stereotype - Bogans aren’t that bright.&quot;

Well Commodores have long been Aussie pretenders fooling the entire nation. They started off as &#039;Frankenstein&#039; getting a donor body from Opel then engines from Buick, even Nissan and what-have-you. Then they&#039;re rebadged with Peugeot knock-off lion emblems to make it seem they&#039;re originally from downunder. The VE&#039;s body may have been designed here, but everything else still comes from overseas.

The bottom line is there&#039;s no logical reason to get this kind of car. It&#039;s unnecessarily big, with yesteryear 4-speed autos matched to a V6 less powerful and economical than what the others have to offer. Factor in the electrical glitches, paint mismatch and what-not, and we&#039;ve got the bestseller. Go figure!

The Falcon is actually the most &#039;Australian&#039; car you can get. The epic 4-litre straight-six is among the class leaders, with a better thought out dash than its Holden counterpart. It is better in just about every way, but why isn&#039;t it selling so well?

You said it yourself, bogans aren&#039;t very smart, but I do have to agree that Toyota are missing the point in their TRD lineup. The supercharged Aurion is at the end of the day just a more powerful version of mum&#039;s Camry, and the HiLux doesn&#039;t have sport in its vocabulary no matter what. But they are indeed better made than any RWD Oz sedan or ute. They should get it right in the Corolla, shoehorning the non-supercharged V6 and sorting out the suspension to come up with a better performance car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUOTE Wheelnut: &#8220;If it’s got enough to kill the bogan cars; despite the fact that you can’t really compare them as its RWD vs FWD….<br />
then why is the Aurion &#8211; in both standard and TuRD form unable to outsell the Falcon and Commodore [incl FPV n HSV]</p>
<p>I mean given that the Aurion [supposedly] has better engineering, more power and is more refined then surely it would be a “no brainer” to go for the Aurion… Bearing in mind that according to the stereotype &#8211; Bogans aren’t that bright.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well Commodores have long been Aussie pretenders fooling the entire nation. They started off as &#8216;Frankenstein&#8217; getting a donor body from Opel then engines from Buick, even Nissan and what-have-you. Then they&#8217;re rebadged with Peugeot knock-off lion emblems to make it seem they&#8217;re originally from downunder. The VE&#8217;s body may have been designed here, but everything else still comes from overseas.</p>
<p>The bottom line is there&#8217;s no logical reason to get this kind of car. It&#8217;s unnecessarily big, with yesteryear 4-speed autos matched to a V6 less powerful and economical than what the others have to offer. Factor in the electrical glitches, paint mismatch and what-not, and we&#8217;ve got the bestseller. Go figure!</p>
<p>The Falcon is actually the most &#8216;Australian&#8217; car you can get. The epic 4-litre straight-six is among the class leaders, with a better thought out dash than its Holden counterpart. It is better in just about every way, but why isn&#8217;t it selling so well?</p>
<p>You said it yourself, bogans aren&#8217;t very smart, but I do have to agree that Toyota are missing the point in their TRD lineup. The supercharged Aurion is at the end of the day just a more powerful version of mum&#8217;s Camry, and the HiLux doesn&#8217;t have sport in its vocabulary no matter what. But they are indeed better made than any RWD Oz sedan or ute. They should get it right in the Corolla, shoehorning the non-supercharged V6 and sorting out the suspension to come up with a better performance car.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I think lotus do squeeze a little more power out of the engine (180hp to 190?), but it&#039;s unfair (to toyota) to suggest that Lotus double the power.

As far as I know, this is how it works:

1zzge - 1.8L (140hp) engine used in the (previous) corolla and mr2, and current elise in some markets

2zzge - 1.8L (180-190hp) engine used in the celica, corolla sportivo and elise / exige in some markets.

In addition, in some areas you can get a exige s, which I believe has a supercharger on the 2zzge engine, increasing power to 218hp.

Lotus didn&#039;t need to do much to the engine, it was pretty maxed out. The compression ratio was 11.5 or something. Where they come into their own is with suspension and chassis etc. 

The 2zzge was a great engine for its time, (until euro IV came out anyway!). It was toyotas first mass produced all aluminium engines which replaced the highly regarded AGe engines. They provided one of the best power to engine weight ratios which is why lotus sought them out to use in their cars. 

See the graph for yourself!

sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engine/ratio.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I think lotus do squeeze a little more power out of the engine (180hp to 190?), but it&#8217;s unfair (to toyota) to suggest that Lotus double the power.</p>
<p>As far as I know, this is how it works:</p>
<p>1zzge &#8211; 1.8L (140hp) engine used in the (previous) corolla and mr2, and current elise in some markets</p>
<p>2zzge &#8211; 1.8L (180-190hp) engine used in the celica, corolla sportivo and elise / exige in some markets.</p>
<p>In addition, in some areas you can get a exige s, which I believe has a supercharger on the 2zzge engine, increasing power to 218hp.</p>
<p>Lotus didn&#8217;t need to do much to the engine, it was pretty maxed out. The compression ratio was 11.5 or something. Where they come into their own is with suspension and chassis etc. </p>
<p>The 2zzge was a great engine for its time, (until euro IV came out anyway!). It was toyotas first mass produced all aluminium engines which replaced the highly regarded AGe engines. They provided one of the best power to engine weight ratios which is why lotus sought them out to use in their cars. </p>
<p>See the graph for yourself!</p>
<p>sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thecar/engine/ratio.jpg</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roflmatic - the engine in the Lotus may be a different engine than what&#039;s in the Corolla - even so I&#039;d say that Toyota would still have a contract to supply Lotus with a similar engine[s] and I&#039;d say that Lotus would still be [willing and] able to get more power out of it than Toyota.

Remember Lotus have far more F1 experience than Toyota do and F1 is supposedly the pinnacle of automotive engineering</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roflmatic &#8211; the engine in the Lotus may be a different engine than what&#8217;s in the Corolla &#8211; even so I&#8217;d say that Toyota would still have a contract to supply Lotus with a similar engine[s] and I&#8217;d say that Lotus would still be [willing and] able to get more power out of it than Toyota.</p>
<p>Remember Lotus have far more F1 experience than Toyota do and F1 is supposedly the pinnacle of automotive engineering</p>
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		<title>By: Flying High</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, r u sure you&#039;ve got the right website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, r u sure you&#8217;ve got the right website?</p>
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		<title>By: Spider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>71 comments, yet &quot;Toyota has no soul&quot;?!
What a bunch of tools!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>71 comments, yet &#8220;Toyota has no soul&#8221;?!<br />
What a bunch of tools!!</p>
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