Comments on: Sport Sedan Shootout

By: Shak

Shak — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:15:14 +0000

Did anyone realise that the title says Super Sedan Shootout and two competitors are Hatches!!!

By: Duck

Duck — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:50:31 +0000

Totally agree Hans!

By: Hans

Hans — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:04:09 +0000

Duck says:
“I’m confused CarAdvice!!!! You call this the “Sport Sedan Shootout” When there is only one sedan in the WHOLE bloody test!!!!!!!!!!!! ”

My sentiments exactly! The STi and R32 are hatchbacks, the 135 is a coupe leaving the EVO as the only sedan… meaning it should win by default no? lol :)

Call me a traditionalist but isn’t someone who buys a sportscar after something sporty? Comfort and practicality would be a distant second and third for a purist.

A better title for this review would have been Germany v Japan under $75k!

By: Duck

Duck — Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:01:56 +0000

I’m confused CarAdvice!!!! You call this the “Sport Sedan Shootout” When there is only one sedan in the WHOLE bloody test!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: DCEPTIVDUB

DCEPTIVDUB — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 08:51:51 +0000

As an owner of a recently purchased 2007 R32 5 door with a DSG gearbox, your report is spot on! A beautifully built and superbly optioned car that is a great day to day drive and simply exhilarating when you give a bit of stick! Just one tip when driving it hard…windows down and radio off!!!… that exhaust note is simply insane!!!

By: FrugalOne

FrugalOne — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:32:17 +0000

doof

By: Zed

Zed — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:39:39 +0000

I think the 135i and R32 look classy in the metal. The fact that the 3 x turbomills in this comparison can be upped in power with a freer flowing exhaust will further the difference in performance they offer.

The 135i is the true street machine here, whilst the Evo & Sti are track & wet/offroad weapons. I could imagine myself smoking the rears of the 135i with the kids in the back…

By: GGGGlen

GGGGlen — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:57:08 +0000

Good review. Whilst not the fastest, R32 is a great all-arounder. Would have been good to perhaps include teh passat R36 sedan also.

By: Paul Maric

Paul Maric — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:50:42 +0000

For anyone interested, you can check out a video clip on the R32 accelerating on our Facebook page, just click this link:

http://www.facebook.com/video/.....9493679752

By: G

Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:16:04 +0000

WTF Only the Evo is a sedan, the Beemer is a coupe, and the Golf and Subie are hatches.

Good review though.

By: Hugo

Hugo — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:55:55 +0000

One point that surprised me in this comparison was the comment that the Golf R32 employs Volkswagen’s “4MOTION full-time four-wheel drive system”.

Er… does it?

Last time I checked, this car had a reactive Haldex clutch based 4WD system, much like the previous Mark IV Golf R32, and the previous shape Bora V6 4MOTION, and the Audi S3 etc.. such that it’s front wheel drive until the front wheels slip.

By all means, correct me if I’m wrong. I would like to think the R32 DID operate a proper full time four wheel drive system. It would certainly be very good value for comfortably under $60,000 in this context.

By: Pete

Pete — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:28:57 +0000

Well if we take the strictest sense of the word, these could be sedans, but really, one oen is. Anyhow, no big deal. I think this is a good comparo, but perhaps this could be re-done again, only with an S3 4 door hatch 9sorry ’sedan) and the new 09 wrx.

By: Paul Maric

Paul Maric — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:14:15 +0000

Themarvel:

Audi were contacted for an S3 but one wasn’t available, according to them.

Having driven the S3, I believe it would be well and truly given some of the cars in this lineup a run for their money.

By: Ben

Ben — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:26:06 +0000

“[…]Models Tested:

BMW E87 135i coupe 3.0-litre, manual – $72,230 […]”

This is not correctly. This is not the BMW E87 Model, it is the BMW E82 Model! And where are the breaking specifications? I think this would be an important & interesting aspect…

By: rich boy

rich boy — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:12:27 +0000

I wanted the sti to win then 135i next evo x then r32.

By: mwt

mwt — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:32:35 +0000

Good article, shame it was lacking the s3… it would have been interesting to see where its placed as its pretty much aimed at the r32

has anyone heard or read anywhere that BMW may be putting their turbo 6 in the next z4?

By: Themarvel

Themarvel — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:27:16 +0000

Great review, shame I’ll never afford any of these… maybe a Ralliart Lancer one day…

Anyway – I would have been interested to know – how does the Audi S3 stack up agains these? It is the 1/2 brother of the R32, but with a gruntier Turbo 2Ltr engine, better interior (so I believe) and is priced about the same as the Evo/STI reviewed (or at least less than the BMW?).

Any reasons it was not also chosen in the review??

By: ryan

ryan — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:53:12 +0000

evolution 0-100 in 5.9secs? Can someone please double check?

By: Neo Utopia

Neo Utopia — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:59:49 +0000

Being a fellow Golf Punker myself I think the Golf 5 R32 is ONE OF the best all round sports car for the price, the fact that it is almost $8,000 cheaper than the Golf 4 R32 is bloody brilliant.

That is my point of view though and many people don’t care as much about all round qualities and prefer pure driver involvement and experience, and so they should opt for the 日本のロケット, particularly I think the modern day Zero fighter!

By: OSU811

OSU811 — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:59:54 +0000

all great cars and a good review, but if imo if i wanted a real sports car i would but the STI, because of the boxer burble the excellant 10/10ths handling, the top end power rush and a proper 6 speed manual sports gbox. If i wanted something more sedate to drive every day , i would save over $20k and order the new my09 wrx sedan, get 195kw still, but more bottom end torque and more comfy ride,but still fun to drive with anough power for day to day and still have awd grip and a proper manual gbox..