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	<title>Comments on: CarAdvice College &#8211; Part Two: Safe Overtaking</title>
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		<title>By: Stevothedevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevothedevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My driving instructor told me to put safety first - when overtaking he told me to plant my foot and get back to the left hand lane as soon as possible.  On a drive to Melbourne overnight from Adelaide I overtook a semi-trailer.  Not just one but three of the buggers slipstreaming each other.  I just planted my foot and unleashed the V8 power.  By the time I had passed the first one and got back to the left side of the road again I had got it up to 190.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My driving instructor told me to put safety first &#8211; when overtaking he told me to plant my foot and get back to the left hand lane as soon as possible.  On a drive to Melbourne overnight from Adelaide I overtook a semi-trailer.  Not just one but three of the buggers slipstreaming each other.  I just planted my foot and unleashed the V8 power.  By the time I had passed the first one and got back to the left side of the road again I had got it up to 190.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reckless is right
ppl have this weird ego problem where they can&#039;t be overtaken
they often accelerate as soon as u get alongside them
HOWEVER, tailgating is just stupid on a highway - as everyone constantly says here, that&#039;s how ppl die
basically if u allow that 3 sec gap u have ample time to gun it past any dickhead before they realise what&#039;s happening
and on the subject of speeding - if ur over the limit to safely overtake the cops will let it go
i&#039;ve done 135km/h past a cop while overtaking a caravan and they don&#039;t care
the only problem is if u run into the fixed speed cameras - thats something you cant explain a case to</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reckless is right<br />
ppl have this weird ego problem where they can&#8217;t be overtaken<br />
they often accelerate as soon as u get alongside them<br />
HOWEVER, tailgating is just stupid on a highway &#8211; as everyone constantly says here, that&#8217;s how ppl die<br />
basically if u allow that 3 sec gap u have ample time to gun it past any dickhead before they realise what&#8217;s happening<br />
and on the subject of speeding &#8211; if ur over the limit to safely overtake the cops will let it go<br />
i&#8217;ve done 135km/h past a cop while overtaking a caravan and they don&#8217;t care<br />
the only problem is if u run into the fixed speed cameras &#8211; thats something you cant explain a case to</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people don&#039;t actually realise they are tailgating. My best mate is a serial tailgater and I mean he nearly swaps paint before he overtakes. Spoken to him about it and sees nothing wrong with it. Will tailgate for klms before he gets a break.

If the car in front has to stop or even slow for any reason well there is a tragic accident especially at highway speeds.

I have had people accelerate when I overtake them and I pull back in behind if possible. With a run up though i.e gap then your car should have sufficient speed to overtake anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people don&#8217;t actually realise they are tailgating. My best mate is a serial tailgater and I mean he nearly swaps paint before he overtakes. Spoken to him about it and sees nothing wrong with it. Will tailgate for klms before he gets a break.</p>
<p>If the car in front has to stop or even slow for any reason well there is a tragic accident especially at highway speeds.</p>
<p>I have had people accelerate when I overtake them and I pull back in behind if possible. With a run up though i.e gap then your car should have sufficient speed to overtake anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got done by NSW Highway patrol two years ago for overtaking in the overtaking lane doing 110klms in a 100klm zone which had been a 110klm zone just before the officer and his speed camera.

Yes and it was a f$5$en old widebody doing 90klms in a 110klm zone.LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got done by NSW Highway patrol two years ago for overtaking in the overtaking lane doing 110klms in a 100klm zone which had been a 110klm zone just before the officer and his speed camera.</p>
<p>Yes and it was a f$5$en old widebody doing 90klms in a 110klm zone.LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Geni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there&#039;s just something about you Reckless that brings out the d*ckhead in people? I&#039;ve had drivers who really suck at speed control, and yes come an overtaking lane, they do generally speed up, probably because in their little camry cage they feel safer when the road doubles in width. But I&#039;ve never had someone actually accelerate to stop me overtaking them. Once they&#039;ve seen me start to overtake they let me. Maybe when you&#039;ve been an inch from their back bumper for the last kilometre they hate you enough to want you to crash Reckless? 

Agree with you Captain, when someone is doing 90 - 95 in a 100 zone it is really difficult to overtake without speeding. To be honest I go at a speed that makes the overtaking safest, if that means a brief burst of 120kmh then so be it. If I get busted by the cops, then bad luck I suppose, if I can&#039;t argue it away. But in NSW highway patrol do seem fairly liberal with the 10% extra if you only do it for overtaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there&#8217;s just something about you Reckless that brings out the d*ckhead in people? I&#8217;ve had drivers who really suck at speed control, and yes come an overtaking lane, they do generally speed up, probably because in their little camry cage they feel safer when the road doubles in width. But I&#8217;ve never had someone actually accelerate to stop me overtaking them. Once they&#8217;ve seen me start to overtake they let me. Maybe when you&#8217;ve been an inch from their back bumper for the last kilometre they hate you enough to want you to crash Reckless? </p>
<p>Agree with you Captain, when someone is doing 90 &#8211; 95 in a 100 zone it is really difficult to overtake without speeding. To be honest I go at a speed that makes the overtaking safest, if that means a brief burst of 120kmh then so be it. If I get busted by the cops, then bad luck I suppose, if I can&#8217;t argue it away. But in NSW highway patrol do seem fairly liberal with the 10% extra if you only do it for overtaking.</p>
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		<title>By: MisterTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>MisterTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article well written and researched.  I agree that for an overtaking maneouver to be safe (even with the too short overtaking lanes) you need to get well over the speed limit.  I was driving between Orange and Sydney a few weeks ago and was having to regularly hit 135/140 to overtake safely.  There were also times when the vehicle I was overtaking accelerated while I was alongside, however the hire car I was driving (FG XR6) had sufficient power to get past without a problem.  If I was driving a slower car or trying to overtake at the speed limit then that would have been much more dangerous.  There was also a time on the road out of Lithgow where I overtook a Volvo XC90 on an overtaking lane at 80kph (the speed limit) when the Volvo was doing 65 due to the twists.  As soon as I got to the 60 zone and slowed the Volvo had caught up and was all over my chuff.  The woman (and it usually is) driving was not happy that I had overtaken her, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article well written and researched.  I agree that for an overtaking maneouver to be safe (even with the too short overtaking lanes) you need to get well over the speed limit.  I was driving between Orange and Sydney a few weeks ago and was having to regularly hit 135/140 to overtake safely.  There were also times when the vehicle I was overtaking accelerated while I was alongside, however the hire car I was driving (FG XR6) had sufficient power to get past without a problem.  If I was driving a slower car or trying to overtake at the speed limit then that would have been much more dangerous.  There was also a time on the road out of Lithgow where I overtook a Volvo XC90 on an overtaking lane at 80kph (the speed limit) when the Volvo was doing 65 due to the twists.  As soon as I got to the 60 zone and slowed the Volvo had caught up and was all over my chuff.  The woman (and it usually is) driving was not happy that I had overtaken her, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caradvice has explained what it would be like in an absolute 100% perfect world, and, dare I say it, Reckless1 has explained what it is like in reality and unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world. A lot of the comments that he/she has made on this site I have disagreed with but this time I 100% agree with you.

And yes Slower drivers can, in a lot of ways be more dangerous then speeding drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caradvice has explained what it would be like in an absolute 100% perfect world, and, dare I say it, Reckless1 has explained what it is like in reality and unfortunately we do not live in a perfect world. A lot of the comments that he/she has made on this site I have disagreed with but this time I 100% agree with you.</p>
<p>And yes Slower drivers can, in a lot of ways be more dangerous then speeding drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thread guys, Big Jim makes one point that is often not stressed enough in overtaking, &quot;USE YOUR MIRRORS&quot;!!!!!
The amount of times that I have been starting to overtake safely only to have a vehicle in front pull out at the last minute. 
Reckless your system might be required on the Idiot drivers, but the majority of drivers out there will let you overtake comfortably if follow the above guidlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thread guys, Big Jim makes one point that is often not stressed enough in overtaking, &#8220;USE YOUR MIRRORS&#8221;!!!!!<br />
The amount of times that I have been starting to overtake safely only to have a vehicle in front pull out at the last minute.<br />
Reckless your system might be required on the Idiot drivers, but the majority of drivers out there will let you overtake comfortably if follow the above guidlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My god, there&#039;s a complete liar on this thread - states he has NEVER had a car accelerate when he tries to pass - anyone for whom this is true must never have driven our great highways but only driven to the bowls club.

I&#039;ll continue to drive the way I have for the last 40 years and several million kilometers, during which time I&#039;ve never hit the back of another car (or the front or the side)

I&#039;m happy for all those above who will leave a 3 second gap, because that lets me overtake a line of cars one at a time and duck into the gap each time if required.

I hate those who accelerate to 100 after travelling at 85 through the slight curves, the instant the road straightens, just when you want to go past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god, there&#8217;s a complete liar on this thread &#8211; states he has NEVER had a car accelerate when he tries to pass &#8211; anyone for whom this is true must never have driven our great highways but only driven to the bowls club.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll continue to drive the way I have for the last 40 years and several million kilometers, during which time I&#8217;ve never hit the back of another car (or the front or the side)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy for all those above who will leave a 3 second gap, because that lets me overtake a line of cars one at a time and duck into the gap each time if required.</p>
<p>I hate those who accelerate to 100 after travelling at 85 through the slight curves, the instant the road straightens, just when you want to go past.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with all points including the gap.

Would like to know the number of accidents caused by excessive tailgating and cars not keeping to the left.

At the end of the day it&#039;s all about patience,commonsense and courtesy.

Unfortunate these days most don&#039;t give a flying@34 about anyone else and that&#039;s the main problem.

I was on the Sydney Freeway today in my Kia Grand Carnival
and moved into the right lane to pass a far slower car. 

There was a blue sv6 vz quite a way back so i indicated and moved over. Of course my moving into the right lane 200 metres ahead of him prompted him to flatten it and make like he was going to run over the top of me. I moved over but with idiots like this in the bright blue vz sv6 you are probably wasting your time.

If I could have confronted that idiot I would have stoved his face in with my fist.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with all points including the gap.</p>
<p>Would like to know the number of accidents caused by excessive tailgating and cars not keeping to the left.</p>
<p>At the end of the day it&#8217;s all about patience,commonsense and courtesy.</p>
<p>Unfortunate these days most don&#8217;t give a <a href="mailto:flying@34">flying@34</a> about anyone else and that&#8217;s the main problem.</p>
<p>I was on the Sydney Freeway today in my Kia Grand Carnival<br />
and moved into the right lane to pass a far slower car. </p>
<p>There was a blue sv6 vz quite a way back so i indicated and moved over. Of course my moving into the right lane 200 metres ahead of him prompted him to flatten it and make like he was going to run over the top of me. I moved over but with idiots like this in the bright blue vz sv6 you are probably wasting your time.</p>
<p>If I could have confronted that idiot I would have stoved his face in with my fist.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As weird as it sounds, Reckless does make a valid point.

Driving home from my holidays recently, I found that most drivers suddenly acquire a lead foot the second an overtaking lane appears. They seem adamant to not let you pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As weird as it sounds, Reckless does make a valid point.</p>
<p>Driving home from my holidays recently, I found that most drivers suddenly acquire a lead foot the second an overtaking lane appears. They seem adamant to not let you pass.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reckless 1:

&quot;The best way I’ve found is to climb all over the back of the nuisance driver until the clear road appears...&quot;

People like you put people&#039;s lives at risk on our roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reckless 1:</p>
<p>&#8220;The best way I’ve found is to climb all over the back of the nuisance driver until the clear road appears&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>People like you put people&#8217;s lives at risk on our roads.</p>
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		<title>By: BIG JIM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG JIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent advice CA, most people it seems have absolutely no idea when it comes to overtaking  safely. Another bit of advice (especially when behind a very slow vehicle) is to use your mirrors etc and be aware of the cars behind you, so as to not pull out in front of or into a faster machine coming from behind.

And as mentioned above you should blast past without worrying about exceeding the too low speed limit. It is also good driving and courtesy to blast past quickly  so other cars have an oportunity to overtake the slow vehicle.

Reckless1 Says:January 1st, 2009 at 10:19 am:
 you must drive a slow car, get big Aussie V8 or turbo6 ya mug, then you can blast past whilst maintaining safe gaps at all times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent advice CA, most people it seems have absolutely no idea when it comes to overtaking  safely. Another bit of advice (especially when behind a very slow vehicle) is to use your mirrors etc and be aware of the cars behind you, so as to not pull out in front of or into a faster machine coming from behind.</p>
<p>And as mentioned above you should blast past without worrying about exceeding the too low speed limit. It is also good driving and courtesy to blast past quickly  so other cars have an oportunity to overtake the slow vehicle.</p>
<p>Reckless1 Says:January 1st, 2009 at 10:19 am:<br />
 you must drive a slow car, get big Aussie V8 or turbo6 ya mug, then you can blast past whilst maintaining safe gaps at all times.</p>
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		<title>By: topdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>topdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with captain there is just no way of over taking safely without going bit over the limit.Ive just come back from holidays up north and every time i over took my speed was always around 120 to do it safely.If you over take and stay under 100 like your suppose to you will soon see oncoming traffic coming towards you at an alarming rate.It takes forever to pass someone doing 80 odd and you not going over 100 to pass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with captain there is just no way of over taking safely without going bit over the limit.Ive just come back from holidays up north and every time i over took my speed was always around 120 to do it safely.If you over take and stay under 100 like your suppose to you will soon see oncoming traffic coming towards you at an alarming rate.It takes forever to pass someone doing 80 odd and you not going over 100 to pass</p>
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		<title>By: Benjie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reckless1:

Please let us all know which state you live in, along with the days you are driving so we know where NOT to EVER drive.

People like you should be taken off the road and lined up against a wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reckless1:</p>
<p>Please let us all know which state you live in, along with the days you are driving so we know where NOT to EVER drive.</p>
<p>People like you should be taken off the road and lined up against a wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Geni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Reckless, I think they&#039;re tut-tutting about the deadset wanker that is driving like an idiot. Nothing about hooning. I can safely say that i&#039;ve never had someone accelerate when I&#039;ve tried to overtake. Yes, people will (usually) slow down if someone is right up their trumpet, but thats just because they are doing good defensive driving to shake a f-wit off their arse. Doesn&#039;t mean you should use their good driving technique to help your bad one. 

And if they want to be a wanker and accelerate when you try and overtake (which is illegal) then just hang back and wait. Eventually they&#039;ll stop paying attention to you, and thats when you overtake normally before they realise and start to accelerate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Reckless, I think they&#8217;re tut-tutting about the deadset wanker that is driving like an idiot. Nothing about hooning. I can safely say that i&#8217;ve never had someone accelerate when I&#8217;ve tried to overtake. Yes, people will (usually) slow down if someone is right up their trumpet, but thats just because they are doing good defensive driving to shake a f-wit off their arse. Doesn&#8217;t mean you should use their good driving technique to help your bad one. </p>
<p>And if they want to be a wanker and accelerate when you try and overtake (which is illegal) then just hang back and wait. Eventually they&#8217;ll stop paying attention to you, and thats when you overtake normally before they realise and start to accelerate.</p>
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		<title>By: Triton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent advice, and obviously aimed at clowns like Reckless1. This is a matter of life, and all too often death, not an issue for so-called smart remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent advice, and obviously aimed at clowns like Reckless1. This is a matter of life, and all too often death, not an issue for so-called smart remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: sgt.sweetchuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgt.sweetchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the cut of your jib Reckless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the cut of your jib Reckless.</p>
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		<title>By: Reckless1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reckless1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with point 1.

It assumes the car you are trying to get past will NEVER accelerate when you want to pass, and this is just wishful thinking - they always do.

When you are 3 seconds back, the driver in front assumes you are happy to stay behind, and will accelerate when the road is clear enough for you to get past.  This means you can&#039;t pass at all.

The best way I&#039;ve found is to climb all over the back of the nuisance driver until the clear road appears, and then rip past them - they are only too happy to let you go, while tut-tutting amongst themselves about the hoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with point 1.</p>
<p>It assumes the car you are trying to get past will NEVER accelerate when you want to pass, and this is just wishful thinking &#8211; they always do.</p>
<p>When you are 3 seconds back, the driver in front assumes you are happy to stay behind, and will accelerate when the road is clear enough for you to get past.  This means you can&#8217;t pass at all.</p>
<p>The best way I&#8217;ve found is to climb all over the back of the nuisance driver until the clear road appears, and then rip past them &#8211; they are only too happy to let you go, while tut-tutting amongst themselves about the hoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Mainwaring</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Mainwaring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something which has made overtaking more dangerous than it needs to be is the fear of exceeding the speed limit, leading to far too long being spent on the wrong side of the road. To pass a vehicle doing 90 without exceeding a 100 limit requires an extraordinarily long time exposed to danger. It&#039;s far safer to accelerate quickly up to 130 or so during the manoeuvre, but the laser-toting cop coming the other way doesn&#039;t see it like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something which has made overtaking more dangerous than it needs to be is the fear of exceeding the speed limit, leading to far too long being spent on the wrong side of the road. To pass a vehicle doing 90 without exceeding a 100 limit requires an extraordinarily long time exposed to danger. It&#8217;s far safer to accelerate quickly up to 130 or so during the manoeuvre, but the laser-toting cop coming the other way doesn&#8217;t see it like that.</p>
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