Comments on: GM cancels large SUV program

By: Forza M

Forza M — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:27:21 +0000

Andrew M, thanks for the lesson in all things GM and the good ol US of A. You are right i dont know you, and jesus i am shattered about that!!

SamR Once again chech, i have to say you have come down in the last shower. to quote you “boat and horse are just entertainments made possible by the era of cheap oil.” proves there are plenty of woodducks in the world. Congratulations on getting a guernsey in that tribe.

I dont own a 4WD and never have so i have no bias, what I do have is an understanding that some people actually NEED a 4WD they use them for work purposes, get out to the bush mate and find out what i am talking about.

By: SamR

SamR — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:03:06 +0000

Forza M, yes some people do need a 4WD, lets even say SUV. Farmers, prospectors etc, sure, need a 4WD.

Tell me how many need them in the city? Where 99% of them are often with big alloy wheels and street tyres.

Also, just because you want a big 4WD to tow your boat or horse trailer does not mean you NEED any of that. The boat and horse are just entertainments made possible by the era of cheap oil.

If/when oil goes back past $150 a barrel to $300+ the era of horse floats, big power boats and V8 company cars will be OVER for all but the big end of town.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:04:12 +0000

Andrew M – As a Fellow [Ford] employee; I agree with you that the both GMs and Fords international subsidiaries are paying for the ignorant arogance in Detroit..

However; I recenly read on a newspaper website [think it was the washington post] an article where an “automotive industry expert said “…. those of us who are between the ages of 20-40 can expect to see the end of car production etc in the USA before they retire.. that is not to say that GM Ford and Chrysler will cease to exist [Sorry Toyota Fans]….they will merely relocate overseas”

They say a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.. and as far as GM and Ford are Concerned the weakest link is the USA

I wouldn’t be surprised if this happens within the next decade or so and GM Ford decide to build RWD cars in Australia and their FWD cars in Europe given thats where the expertise is particularly as far as Holden and Opel are concerned. As for Chrysler who knows.

Therefore; the new Torana will be built [on the old Vectra line] and Holden could even get the go ahead for their expansion plans ato build chevrolets and cadillacs – as I believe they will also streamline their line-up

By: JEYKL & HYDE

JEYKL & HYDE — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:02:20 +0000

i was watching austar the other day,and there was some current “top shot” g.m. exective saying that the ev1 (20 years ago)was a complete waste of time and resources.what a @ickhead.if you’ve watched “you killed the electric car”you would of seen the leased owners of the ev1 totally heartbroken that their cars were being squashed…it just goes to plove why g.m.(u.s.a.)are in so much trouble,they are corrupt.i personally hope they close the usa arm down,let opel make the small cars,holden the big ones,and ultimately they will be better off…

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:52:09 +0000

Forza,
how do you figure Im a holden employee??

if you actually knew me you would certainly know Im not a holden fan let alone one that shows up to their facility every day.

I say it as i feel/see it and try to be fair in the way i go about posting.

Im not a GM/Holden fan but even i can see the US division is making everyone pay for their stubborn decisions.

and that applies to more companies than just GM

most things in the US are stuffed at the moment and the auto industry isnt exempt from it. even toyota in the US arent exempt, but luckily for them their volumes and corporate manner doesnt revolve around the US

By: Manly

Manly — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:38:28 +0000

when GM die so will Holden………

By: Forza M

Forza M — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:09:48 +0000

Andrew M sounds like a Holden employee.
Sam R sounds like he has come down in the last shower… Some people doe NEED big 4WD pal, you ever been outside of the city before chech?

By: SamR

SamR — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:58 +0000

There have been fuel price spikes in the past and the death of the big car was supposedly near. Every time as soon as the fuel prices went down they went back to big cars.

The car makers and the American public can\’t help themselves.

The comment above “Those that own Suburbans in general love them, and need the room for passengers, loads and towing purposes.”

They don’t NEED them, they WANT them.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:14:06 +0000

GM is on the verge of death, i do wonder what will happen to Holden when they go under.

Probably sold to the Koreans.

By: Alex

Alex — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:32:38 +0000

I used to have an Escalade before every tasteless celebrity owned one and all of them had big wheels. Dreadful car, but I have fond memories of it. Switched it for a Range Rover and I’ll never go back because the Range Rover better by far in every aspect.