Toyota 86: full-size spare and boot liner to be dropped

By Tim Beissmann
July 20th, 2012

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Updated July 25 with comment from Toyota Australia.

Toyota 86 vehicles delivered to Australia from October will feature a tyre repair kit instead of the full-size spare wheel that currently comes standard with the brand-new sports coupe.

An internal vehicle notification bulletin circulated yesterday by Toyota Australia Regional Planning details the specification change, which will also see the 86-branded rubber cargo mat that sits over the spare wheel in the boot removed from those vehicles.

“From September 2012 production the full-size spare wheel will be replaced with a tyre repair kit,” the document explains.

“To coincide with the adoption of the tyre repair kit, the PIO cargo mat will be discontinued from this time.”

A Toyota customer service representative confirmed the switch from the spare wheel to the repair kit, revealing that the cars with the puncture kit would arrive in Australian showrooms from the start of the final quarter of 2012.

The entry-level 86 GT is fitted with 16-inch alloy wheels while the high-grade 86 GTS comes with larger 17s. Currently, the GTS gets a full-size alloy wheel, while the GT gets a full-size tyre with a steel wheel.

The customer service representative said there was no mention of any price or other specification adjustments to offset loss of the spare wheel and rubber boot mat, and no word of compensation for customers who have already ordered an 86 expecting it to come with the spare wheel.

Toyota Australia’s Mike Breen told CarAdvice the decision to swap the full-size spare for a tyre repair kit was motivated by improving practicality for owners and not about cost cutting.

“It was all about the usability of the boot space,” Breen said. “When we saw the intrusion into the boot space caused by the full-size spare wheel we decided that from a customer point of view it was not ideal.”

Breen confirmed Toyota 86 models delivered without the full-size spare would gain an extra six litres of boot space thanks to the introduction of a flat boot floor cover, which he said would make it easier to load in bulky items like luggage and golf bags.

While admitting it was unfortunate that many customers found out about the specification change online before dealers could inform them personally, Breen said Toyota had no plans to offer compensation for customers who had already ordered a car.

“That’s a matter for discussion between the customer and the dealer.”

Breen said Toyota Australia will not offer an option to add in the full-size spare wheel.

Subaru Australia’s David Rowley confirmed there were no plans to delete the standard full-size spare wheel from the 86’s sister car, the BRZ. It isn’t currently offered with the boot liner.

“Our car has a full-size spare and that will continue to be the case,” Rowley said.

The Toyota 86 launched in Australia at the beginning of June, with the entry-level GT manual variant starting from the unexpectedly low price of $29,990 before on-road costs.

In the face of rumours that prices would increase shortly after its launch, Toyota Australia last month confirmed there were no price changes planned for the 86 in the foreseeable future.

Breen said as of today (July 25) there is a two to three month waiting list for the 86 GT and a 12 month wait for the GTS.

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Bluey

“In the face of rumours that prices would increase shortly after its launch, Toyota Australia last month confirmed there were no price changes planned for the 86 in the foreseeable future.”

No, they’ll just gradually reduce standard equipment and make them costly extras instead.

Very sneaky Toyota.
- Dudeface
  
  I’m waiting with baited breath to see how the Toyota fanbois put a positive spin on this one….
  - Damian
    
    There’s no need to put a ‘positive spin’ on anything – the 86 sells itself. This is at most, a minor setback given the many positive merits of the 86. A missing boot liner and spare tire isn’t going to make measurable difference.
    
    If the customers with existing orders are unhappy, I am sure Toyota is more than willing to provide a full refund of their deposit. Plenty of others are willing to jump the queue.
    - Smart US
      
      i cant get it – “If the customers with existing orders are unhappy” you advertise something and then change rules… is this a normal trade practice…
      - Damian
        
        My statement stands. Specifications are subject to change from time to time. Whilst I understand why customers with existing orders will be frustrated, the 86 still makes a compelling case for itself. I am sure Toyota Australia will refund deposits to those who demand it. Another keen punter will simply take their place.
  - Kaas
    
    There are no positive spin… 33K drive away for GT and 38K drive away for GTS is great value anyway you put it.
    
    Toyota Australia simply trying to make extra bucks by making the rubber mat as an extra accessory and the spare tyre as repair kit instead. Its money grab FOR SURE.
    
    But… cant complain too much since the the price is still great value.
    - Kathy
      
      Look it’s a dog act which ever way you want to see it. Not sure which planet you’v been living on but the AUD has been at parity if not higher that the USD for a long time now. I can’t see how $38K is great value compared to what they cost in the US. GTS should be no more than $34,990 drive away and come with a FULL SIZED ALLOY SPARE & LINER! The 86 is basically a micro 2 seater sports car and not very practical (but fun). Should be priced accordingly.
      - Martyr_7
        
        compare it to its competitors! oh wait there isn’t any!!!! the closest is mazdas mx5 which is soft top only and its about 12k more with less power/torque.
- http://twitter.com/NRD80Y NRD80Y
  
  I wondering if you’re actually correct. Toyota may not actually be making changes at the factory end, but at the delivery end by taking the wheel and liner out themselves and keeping to offer as ‘optional at cost’.
- Steven Hope
  
  This debate hasn’t started over the ditch in NZ. I have a GTS (equiv) on order and the brochure/poster clearly states that “after the initial production run” spare tyre is replaced with a kit. Mine is in the October build so only a miracle will save me. But Toyota were up front here. There are some odd inconsistencies between the 2 country’s versions. Model naming is different, an auto only costs $1K NZ more here and we get 5 yr free servicing, 5 yr warranties etc. (vs 3yr?) even discounted insurance. The car is about $4K dearer though based on exchange rate. Waiting time is about 2-3 months here. There are only about 120 here so far.
Hatchie

I ordered a GTS on the 10th of June, based on the specs and the fact that I would be getting a full size spare. It is due to be built in October. Toyota are now telling me that it will not have the spare (instead having a crappy tire repair kit). What gives? No choice (they take my money due to false advertising) AND they won’t reduce the price (the full size spare with alloy wheels would cost at leats $400-500). I think this falls under Fair Trade Australia territory. I am not letting Toyota get away with this.
- Loft
  
  Yea that’s bull they can’t change what you thought u were getting
  And paid for without compensation.
- SLORE
  
  Get over yourself, please. Dibby dobber. No point crying over spilt milk.
  - Bluey
    
    Intelligent response there mate. Value add.
  - Nujeeville
    
    Lets see you sign a contract with your hard earned money and then see stuff disappear from it…
  - Sumpguard
    
    SLORE … Anagram of LOSER?
  - Tammy
    
    You sir are an imbecile!
- Daniel
  
  I personally am not sensitive about having a spare wheel, but I am entirely city based so have no reason to be. I definitely agree that you should get what you paid for, you should contact Consumer Affairs. I have in the past about other things and find them to be surprisingly helpful and easy to get through to for a government department.
- RSC200
  
  Hey there is nothing wrong with Two cans of goo!
  
  I’m so glad my Clio Rs 200 tyres haven’t gone flat I’m a bit concerned if it does…
  
  But it is a little slack in my opinion especially when you ordered it with the spare specs.
  
  Congratulations on your purchase and have fun when it arrives.
- Car2012
  
  After all the good press (free advertising) and good comments that Toyota has been getting with the 86 it is absolutely crazy that Toyota is now willing to bring onto themselves the negativity of getting rid of a full size spare.
  Toyota should honour all existing contracts, and there-after provide the full size spare as an option and marginally reduce the price of the 86.
  To me the 86 was to be a sports car that can be driven anywhere on bitumen (from city to city) with the confidence of knowing that if a flat tyre occurred then it could be changed, and then drive to the next town to repair it.
  I hope that Subaru does not follow Toyota’s lead.
  Just interest, the article says that Subaru does not offer a boot liner; they do, but as a $175 option. From the photo on the Subaru site it looks okay.
- Smart US
  
  man thats so bad… 86/BRZ are the biggest rip-off on consumers in oz – they willingly under-supply market space so demand is higher than the stock… and then manipulating buyers in this predatory tactics… i hope OFT will jump at them
- Nailbor
  
  good luck – it’s in the contract; you can always get your deposit refunded if you don’t like the spect change
86 gts

This is a poor decision by Toyota, particularly for those who have already ordered.
It is pretty lame that they reduce the specifications after taking 6 months of orders for the GT & 18 months of orders for the GTS.
There will be a lot of disappointed and frustrated customers.
Not good for the customers or Toyota’s reputation.
Toyota should rethink this decision.
It is purely based on greed!
- Smart US
  
  why frustrated- if you dont like it get Veloster mate… (joking) as i said before “86/BRZ are the biggest rip-off on consumers in oz – they willingly
  under-supply market space so demand is higher than the stock… and then
  manipulating buyers in this predatory tactics… i hope OFT will jump
  at them”
  - Jober As A Sudge
    
    You do realise there are other markets out there aside from Oz that they need to supply cars to right?
JML

With a full size spare wheel in the back the car would also have had better front-to-rear weight distribution and thus better handling balance. I took the spare wheel out of my WRX’s boot to save a little weight and do a little experimen- it actually handled better with the wheel in.
http://www.facebook.com/nathan.baird.712 Nathan Baird

Yep changing what is included, somehow I don’t they can do this.. Make the customer wait up to 18months, that tough enough, now start stripping existing orders down and changing what’s actually included,,, oh what a feeling P$%#d off
- Smart US
  
  i said on the other web site that OFT is very picky on advertising stock you cant deliver in reasonable time… was not taken well by friends there – everyone suggesting “I you dont like it dont wait or take what Subaru gives you”… not to mention how rich they get by holding $400,000 of deposit money somewhere on term deposit
Mickey B

Agreed: as a soon-to-be GTS owner, I ordered my car under the impression that I would be getting a full-sized spare. This is very poor form by Toyota: they should be shamed officially…
Aaron D

I have been told my 86 GTS I ordered in June was pushed from September to October. Now I’m finding out that one of the many small things that attracted me to purchasing this car, the full size spare tire is being deleted? I put my money down on what was shown to me at the dealer.

I would have assumed they would honour existing orders, rather than just setting a production cut off date.

My first Toyota purchase. Oh what a feeling!
DEN

Toyota shooting themselves in the foot. They gets tons of positive press about the 86, pretty much presell the car for the next 2 years and then do something as shortsited as change the spec.

With a couple of thousand orders under contract they are effectively breaking all of those contracts.

For those that think it’s somehow trivial, if I had to go into Toyota Spare Parts and order the missing parts from the vehicle I ordered, namely a 17″ alloy wheel, tyre, spare wheel cover, jack and wheel brace, I would be forking out something like $800. Certainly not trivial in my book.

Toyota should take a look at Subaru’s example and supply the vehicle spec that they contracted to supply.
- Smart US
  
  you dont know what spin Subaru will take
Doctor

What else would you expect from the brand that has a logo that resembles 2 turds in a toilet bowl? And the 70 series (good name that, as just about everything except the engine is 70s technology) Landcruiser doesn’t even come with A/C standard and most are used in northern Australia!
http://profile.yahoo.com/PJ4JVM37ETYBIUR4DVB4XXJ7RM Carl MaC

I had the crappy tyre repair kit for all my motor-cycles, no full size spares for bikes, I can’t wait to see the first 86 owners down on their knees, using the crappy kit, and believe me, it ‘ain’t’ that ezy.

I wonder if the boffins whom thought up this great new-you-beaut technology ever tried using this great new way to repair a flat tyre, like the twit at Suzuki who put the axle shaft on my m/cycle in line with the exhaust system, so that you had to dismantle the exhaust system to get to the shaft, and they pay these no-brainers, hundreds-of-thousands of dollars each year.
Globalpty912

What a good news!! No Spare trie means more cargo space and better fuel economy!!
Globalpty912

Full spare… Full spare… I am sick of hearing this…….I do not need full spare….I would rather have more boot sapce and better fuel economy !!!!!!!!…Puncuture of trie barely happens…so why insisit full spare?
- Mick
  
  Good for you mate. I bet you didn’t sign a contract back when the full spare was included, if you did I bet you’d be feeling different right now.
Screw up

So is this a Toyota global or Australia only? Whatever the case may be, it’s an incredibly stupid planning decision, guaranteed to piss every soon to be customer off.

Given the flood of positive press and hype around the car, it’s nonsensical that they would choose to upset the momentum that’s been built up.
Globalpty912

Full spare… Full spare…Full spare… Full spare..What an idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
celica (sillycar)

most people ring roadside anyway! my missus isn’t about to break her precious nails changing tyres. if someone is going to do it for you anyway what do you care if its a repair kit or how easy it is to work or not! I thought Toyota had priced keenly, no surprise there. most won’t miss it.
- Mick
  
  Roadside assistance on a brand new car? Not sure about you, but that is just stupid lol
  - celica (sillycar)
    
    why you prefer roadside only on older cars?
Lavinh8

HA! what a joke!! Just pathetic Toyota! Shame on you! You make us wait up to 18MTHS for your misjudgement in production demands and NOW you RUB SALT into our agony of waiting by stealing our full spare wheel from right under our nose?? Show some common courtesy and honor what we signed & paid a deposit for! This can’t be legal!
Globalpty912

Most women cannot change pucture tires…Why? because that rarely happens…
- Mick
  
  You’re missing the point here. This is about putting a deposit down for a car that was supposed to include a full size spare, only for Toyota to then decide to remove it thereby reneging on the contract. It’s bad enough that we have to wait up to 18 months for the car, but they want to remove things that we’re sure were included and therefore we signed contracts. Now Toyota isn’t even planning on lowering the price (this spare would result in a reduction of at least $500). So please stop posting your opinions on how spare tires aren’t needed.
- Globalpty912
  
  So please do not insist a car to have a full size spare tire !!!!!! A space saver tire or pucture repaire kit is more than enough!!!
  - Mick
    
    I don’t know if you’re just being stupid… I repeat, did you sign a contract for a 86 a while ago based on the specs (one of which was a full size spare with alloy wheel)? If you did, would you not be pissed now? Or perhaps money grows on trees for you and $500-$800 is small change for you.
  - DanielD
    
    I didn’t live in a city for many years and drive to Maccas and back and in my situation, you know when you actually drive across this country – no it isn’t.
    - Globalpty912
      
      I understand your circumstance..I recommend you to have a full spare tire…But most of city dewellers do not need a spare tires….AS I SAID BEFORE, they would rather have more boot space and better fuel economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      - Owler
        
        you realise that you could just remove the full size spare and get a repair kit for $20 at supershit
      - Kckc123
        
        You might want to read the article and Mick’s comment again. As Mick has pointed out, this is NOT about whether a space saver spare/repair kit is sufficient or that the 86 HAS to have a full spare.
        
        It is about Toyota deleting standard equipment from Sept onwards on the 86 and the backlash for Toyota (if there was not some sort of compensation) from buyers awaiting delivery who have sign contracts expecting a full spare. Its all about getting what you signed up for.
        
        I could be wrong but somehow, for most of these buyers, I wouldn’t think having a space saver or repair kit as the original standard equipment is a deal breaker. They would have bought the car regardless. I know I would.
        
        Personally, I don’t think Toyota would be that stupid and they will either honour current contracts or provide compensation, otherwise Dept of Fair Trading will be on to them.
      - Bruno
        
        You are the biggest knob on the interweb. If your driving ability or brain see’s any benefit in terms of fuel economy or a couple of mm in cargo space (what? thickness of a news paper rolled up?) I will bite my left nut off. You’re either a Toyota sales dope or a pimply faced centerlink abuser. In either case you will never be able to afford or buy this car. So just STF up!!!
3rdworldjunkie

Why don’t you guys go to Toyota and take your deposit back?

And then buy a Holden Commodore, it’s fast and more powerful than 86!!!

Food for thought yo!

*Note I would not cry even if I ordered when a spare was standard and now it is not not going to be standard. Because I already use tire repairing kit and never had to take out my spare for years. Unnecessary weight!

And no! I drive a Nissan not Toyota.

My 2 cent!
- Smart US
  
  u need help mate
DanielD

Wow. How to take all that good will and throw it away. If they are going to cost cut they could at least fulfill all current orders first. Maybe announce the change to start 12 months from now.

My first thought was what else have they cost cut out of the cars you can’t see?

Marketing epic fail.
Save It For The Track

let’s see what else changes. How long will the price last as is?
ABRAKA

Toyota bashers jumped the gun. What if Toyota meant all orders after Nov will have a tyre repair kit. Anyway Toyota won’t disappoint their customers and legally they can’t change the spec without compensation after the deal has been signed. If Toyota wants to rip ppl off, they would have priced the 86 at $39,990 and it would still be a sell out, what’s a $100 spare wheel? I’d say they are taking out the spare wheel to reduce weight to improve performance, like some Porsche have tyre repair kits.
- Smart US
  
  u r insult to human toyota race
Dee

Bunch of idiots, at the very least they should have announced this for NEW orders placed, and leave the existing as is.

whomever was in charge of this decision should be sacked, and their superior too, for good measure…

This is Fail101, right here. Spend millions creating hype and goodwill, piss it down the drain over some measly margin claw-back.
Spook

I wish people would learn to spell properly. It’s “tyre”, not “tire”. Last time I checked, we are not the 51st state of the US (yet).
- 3rdworldjunkie
  
  There is something called American English. So the question is of flavor not learn to spell properly. Thank you
  
  And no Queen Elizabeth II is not Queen of America anymore since July 4, 1776. Thank you again.
  
  No hard feelings. Peace
  - sam123
    
    American English? Australian website…cheers mate.
    - 3rdworldjunkie
      
      Globalization?
      - Smart US
        
        Globalisation then!!!
Gus

you cant reneg on a signed contract. its not only unscrupulous but its illegal
- Steve Williamson
  
  I was planning to buy the 86. I need a full size spare so i’lll buy something else. After all it’s just a car and the worlds not going to run out of them soon. Wonder if the focus ST has a proper spare
  - Cam
    
    If you choose your type of car depending on whether or not it has a spare full size wheel then you probably would be satisfied driving any car on the market. That being said a few years ago my old man chose a Subaru liberty over a Lexus IS250 because of the spacesaver the lexus provided. Big mistake and he’s regretted it ever since. Maybe test drive a car before conidering/buying it, after all, you will spend more time driving it than changing wheels, food for thought…
http://www.facebook.com/andrew.sunderland.37 Andrew Sunderland

My 86 looks like it will come with no spare …. Not bothered , the first thing i will change on the car is the factory wheels and im sure there will be plenty of people doing the same thing .. So there will be lots of good for nothing 17×7 45 rims on ebay for all the people that want a full size spare
sam123

I want to rant about the missing spare tyre too but I have two thoughts about it instead.

1. I have never had a flat tyre in 18 years of driving.

2. If I wanted a spare tyre that badly I could buy one and put it in the boot. I rarely put anything else in there so the missing space wouldn’t bother me.
- Smart US
  
  happy you in your little world
- John of Perth
  
  You are lucky – I have had two blowouts and two flats both miles from home and in areas with no mobile reception. Every time I had a full size spare – in one instance given the distance I was away from any help – two spares. It will happen when you least expect it and when you are at your most complacent. The 86/BRZ is hopefully going to be used by enthusiasts who want to do some serious long distance driving – run flats a better option to no spare, but I would feel naked without a proper spare.
jacques

we have been taking for a ride becauce everybody saying the car is to cheap yet in the us the same car sell for 25000 $ and the diference in price betwen the manual and auto is only 1100 again 2000 here what bargain!
- Smart US
  
  how not a bargain – go and get Veloster if you want to save… (joking)
Guest

It’s only the kids that want full sized spares so they can trade them in on fleaBay. I don’t have a spare tyre in my car but a can of goo but so what? I’ve ever had 1 flat in almost 20 yrs/400,000km+ driving. I’m saving myself $$ in fuel not carting around ballast for that time for 0.000001% of my driving time and if you have roadside assistance, even better.

If you’re not that satisifed, go cancel your order and get a BRZ and wait again. I’m sure someone else will be glad to take your place in the 86 queue. All money go to Toyota and Subaru anyway. It’s not like they really care.
- Cam
  
  Yeah my spacesaver does me fine in the daily driver and the weekend warrior has nothing but extra boot space and reduced weight. No spare, no goo, just some strong tape in the glovebox which to my surprise has worked quite well. To the point of me forgetting I actually had a puncture for a couple of months as my tyre only lost around 1psi per week after being taped up. I found as i drove the tape melted and moulded itself in and around the puncture giving it a good seal.
JamesB

Before the 86 was launched, Toyota advertised that the boot was able to hold two spare wheels so you have extra when you wear out your first pair while drifting. Now they’re removing the spare wheel. In case they forgot, the tyre repair kit doesn’t replenish the tread.
- Camski
  
  I think you’ve mistakened their claim slightly. By folding down the rear seat, their claim was, you can fit a jack and 4 spare wheels with tyres mounted – in the now expanded boot.
Weewaa

Shows how fine Toyota cut the price to get its headline $29990. Suddenly all those who layed into Subaru for its slightly higher price may realise Toyota have created a situation from which they may look stupid.

And to all those who complain about the Scion version costing less – get off your backsides and complain to the Government about its tax policy (bet you do not!). The problem is that all Governments in this country have become addicted to the revenue raised from cars, booze and gambling.
jacques

funny matia/mx5 86/scion both sell for 25000 in us but here mx5 42000 scion 29000 is there a topless tax /
Guest

Inflation kits are a joke! Try inflating a spiked tyre! What’s wrong with a space saver for a road car? At least you can drive on it (had to use mine for the first time to get to Brisbane from just south of Macksville) when the puncture isn’t repairable – mine’s got a speed rating of “M”. The local dealer didn’t have the tyres in stock but I got a pair (both were just about worn out) in Brisbane on the Saturday morning. A 4WD needs a full size spare and carrying a second is a good idea when going outback. Run-flats are useless too, especially on a 4WD (pretend or otherwise).
TomW

If Toyota had done the obvious thing and priced these things from about $35,990 including a spare, then everyone probably would have been happy.
Marcelito

Geez..a spare tyre..if its such a big deal and people feel sooo betrayed by Toyota by all means get your deposit back and get something else , there are hundreds of other potential buyers waiting in line…and as for the cost- this car is priced what, 5 – 10 grand below what was initially expected by everyone and people are whining and talking about financial compensation from Toyota because of a spare tyre worth a couple of hundred bucks? Gosh…no one is forcing anyone to buy this car – you either still buy it on its merit or you take your deposit and go elsewhere ..it’s that simple.
- Daniel Dacey
  
  You know Ford has that attitude towards their customers for years. Cost cutting anything and everything.Today not one car in the top ten. Something in that for Toyota to learn from.
Galaxy

I don’t get what all the fuss is about with the 86. Toyota has made a rear drive car with 2 doors. That’s all I see here, which makes it horribly overpriced. By shoving a Subaru boxer motor in, simply states to the world that Toyota has no exciting engine tech of their own unless it has a battery. It’s underpowered and so what that it handles well. A Polo is quicker than this thing and wouldn’t be THAT different in handling (even though it will break down after 3 years). For a few grand more you’d get a WRX, GTI etc – far more fun! and then you have Wheels mag also raving a about a 1.5L hybrid Honda and reckon it’s COTY grade. Whats going on here? Am I missing something?
- Shak
  
  Yes you are. If you’re worried or complaining about the car not being quick then you are seriously missing the point of this car. All this fuss you see is people who want a car that drives well and is fun to drive above all else. The lower than expected price tag is just a bonus.
- 1j
  
  You forget lexus is toyota too. They have many exciting engines including v8s v10s putting out 400, 500hp. The engineering and quality of those motors is unbelievable hence the price tag. Subaru would really struggle without Toyota funding so I feel Toyota is merely “throwing them another bone” as far as the boxer engine is concerned. As far as i know, you can’t buy a Polo, WRX, GTi or anything like that in RWD (which is what some drivers truly desire), not to mention the incredible fuel consumption while still having a zippy feeling. The closest thing is the mazda MX-5 aka the hairdresser’s car, do I need to say anymore?
Terry

For anyone who’s actually used a can of goo, they are rubbish. A spare tire is needed. What idiot calls roadside service for a spare? Are you all that useless and can’t change a tire? Also for those who have never had a flat; you’ve been extremely lucky or like out in the back of Bourke with a population of 5 and a drive to the corner shop and back is the only k’s you ever do.
TKO

i doubt this is a Toyota Japan move. It’s probably Toyota Australia trying to appease the dealer network so they can sell the spare and liner at a super high mark-up. I would not be surprised at all if the Spare and liners are removed by the dealers and then sold separately.
Chest Rockjaw

It feels strange that Toyota have released a car that handled, had a great tech spec and is desirable. I’d be a lot more comfortable if Toyota at least bolted a 4 speed auto onto the 86.
Turbodewd

Its a newer Celica – cute, zippy but not powerful. Indeed a standard Falcon beats this in 0-100.
- Guest
  
  Firstly, It’s not, it’s RWD, enough said. Secondly, It’s not supposed to be powerful, If you want powerful you wouldn’t buy one, you’d buy forced induction or 8cyl. Thirdly, the ford should beat it 0-100 as it has double the toyota’s capacity and an extra two cylinders to boot (probably using twice as much fuel as well). Not to mention a falcon is big, heavy, poor re-sale value, thirsty and not as reliable. Finally, just test drive the two (not that I have) but knowing Toyota it would be a no-brainer which one would be a nicer drive. Just hope Subaru didn’t build the transmission in the auto :(
Birty_B

The only mistake Toyota made was offering it with a spare tyre in the first place. Plenty of cars these days don’t come with spares. If they never offered it there would be no fuss.

And as far as people say contact the office of fair trading, wake up and read the contract you signed.
- Guest
  
  We signed the contract base on the spec they published on the day, which INCLUDED the spare wheel and boot liner. If Toyota decided to downgrade the 17″ alloy wheel to 16″ steel wheel, will you react the same? This is the same concept..
Sigh

hahahahahahahahahaha all you losers who bought this can cry me a river!! – Too good to be true usually is!
Niklaus Manoj

It’s not official until it’s official.
Wombat

I have a contract – I expect to have to honour my commitment, and I expect Toyota to honour theirs. Doesn’t matter whether I want the spare wheel or not.

If they get away with this, what else will have been deleted by the time people eventually receive their orders.

This is just a way for Toyota to effectively drop the price for people who have a purchase contract.

Toyota living down to my expectations – pity, I thought they might see the opportunity to capitalise on their good press, rather than crude, dishonest profiteering.
Fairtrading

Toyota, you could have increased the price by another $1k at the beginning if you want to maximise the profit and people would still willing to pay for this. But adjust the spec after people signing the contract has become a “fair” trading issue, it is dishonest and have more brand damaging than what you get from the spare wheel per car.
Cam

Still wouldn’t buy any other manufacture
Albois

I dont know this for certain but I am pretty sure there would be a clause in the contract that states that the specification would be subject to change at the discretion of Toyota. This is pretty normal for many consumer goods. I’m not saying you shouldn’t feel cheated, but I would be surprised if Toyota didnt have lawyers check these terms and conditions of contract before making this deletion.
Chest Rockjaw

Not important to most buyers. I’ll add a roll cage to mine and fit oz supertourissimos.
Edward

My Type R came with a space-saver spare but i removed it and the lining anyway. It has been sitting in the garage for years
Edward

My Type R came with a space-saver spare but i removed it and the lining anyway. It has been sitting in the garage for years
Click_lenny

Have this ass h@le tot about the 86 owner to be that wanted the full size spare? if i want more space, i will leave the spare at home. i don’t need him to make decision for me, just give me what i signed for, nothing more, nothing less!!!! M*ther F*cker!!!
86 Enthusiast

Erm yeah “no cost-cutting” – what about you offer us a space-saver tyre instead AND still get the six-litres of boot space back with no problems – FAIL!
- Camski
  
  Lots of manufacturers cost cut, the issue here is that as it stands, these changes are to be carried out to cars that are due to be delivered to people that have signed a contract prior to knowing of these changes.
  
  Now, that said, at least it has become known that this is a due change. Do you think AMG cost cut on their cars? They sure do. The 2009 C63 AMG (not sure if any other years are affected) has one piece ventilated brake discs with directional vents, meaning as the wheel spins forward, the vents are designed to ‘scoop’ in more air. Now, AMG/Mercedes and associated suppliers being so large and all, should have the tools and machinery to do two sets of discs, left and right. As it so turns out, they only make them for the right. The ones on the left, are the right ones, flipped around, with the vents facing the wrong way. How’s that for cost cutting?
  
  Side effects? Hairline cracks from track use, front left overheats, front left builds up carbon from the brake pads and cause squeaking, and finally the front left calliper is the first to change gold/bronze due to heat.
  
  Merc/AMG stealerships are asking almost a third of the price of the 86 for a new set of four discs – and they aren’t even designed properly.
gt86.com.au

I am a much bigger fan on the space saver tyre than the tyre repair kit.
Hatchie

Well done Toyota, no deal for me I’m afraid. I’m glad I booked into test driving the Renault RS 250 this weekend. If my dealer refuses to do nothing it might be walking time for me. And good luck to whoever gets bumped up the queue if I do cancel, more than happy to oblige
- Hatchie
  
  I meant “If my dealer refuses to do anything…”. Too late
Wombat

I’m even more pissed off now that Toyota has spoken about this! To quote a report from Drive in an interview with Toyota spokesman Mike Breen:

“Breen says the cost of replacing the full-size spare wheel, jack and
wheel brace works out to about the same as the cost of fitting the
compressor and can of tyre repair goo inside a special housing in the
boot well.”

You have got to be kidding!!! From what I have been able to find out, the cost from Toyota spare parts for JUST THE ALLOY WHEEL is over $1,000. Then factor in tyre, boot mat, jack and wheel brace and you are looking at well over $1,500 to replace what has been arbitrarily deleted from the specification of contracted buyers.

If Toyota consider the tyre goo and compressor to be of the same value as the wheel, tyre, boot mat, jack and wheel brace, then they won’t have any problems supplying what the contracted buyers purchased, will they.

Talk about making pissed off customers even more pissed off – not only do thye try to profiteer from contracted buyers, they now treat us as stupid as well.

Shame Toyota, shame.