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		<title>By: ChineseDriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChineseDriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford Falcon is like a step son, worked so much harder than his &#039;brother&#039; Holden, and never receive his fair credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford Falcon is like a step son, worked so much harder than his &#8216;brother&#8217; Holden, and never receive his fair credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>realworld testing of the GTS at sub 5 secs???

thats HSV&#039;s claim and one which no independant tester has been able to match</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realworld testing of the GTS at sub 5 secs???</p>
<p>thats HSV&#8217;s claim and one which no independant tester has been able to match</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Real World Testing Results.

FG XR8 = 290 KW &amp; 520 NM Torque
VE SS = 270 KW &amp; 530 NM Torque

(FG XR8) 0 - 100 km = 6.2 sec
0 - 400 m = 14.3 sec

(VE SS) 0 - 100 km = 5.5 sec
0 - 400 m = 13.6 sec

Now for the FPV/HSV specs.

FPV FG GTP = 315 KW &amp; 551 NM Torque
HSV VE GTS = 317 KW &amp; 550 NM Torque

(FPV FG GTP) 0 - 100 km = 5.53 sec
0 - 400 m = 13.62

(HSV VE GTS) 0 - 100 km = 4.96 sec
0 - 400 m = 13.19 sec
WTF? Mate, ur a wanker aye, like seriously. Theyve oulled a 13.4 from the gt&#039;s, only 13.3&#039;s from ur $75,000 gts, n the ss doesnt do 13.6 its 13.8 by wheels, n the xr8 is a flat 14 which is still slower, but ud still be cryin when u see the turbo range fly past lol. G6E turbo=13 seconds flat, XR6 Turbo=13.1 n the all mighty hsv n holden crushin F6 has been said to have gone as low as 12.6 seconds when FPV where developing it, n its been done in stock standard F6 in real world times. So mate, eat shit n die cause times have changed, its the era of the tubo mate. N fpv have a new v8 for 2010, its gonna be either a dohc 5.o litre V8 or a 6.2 Litre dohc V8, both which are all alloy, n itl still sound way better then anything on offer from holden or hsv. Go the FPV/Fords !!!!!! N yes, I do hate anything gm related lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Real World Testing Results.</p>
<p>FG XR8 = 290 KW &amp; 520 NM Torque<br />
VE SS = 270 KW &amp; 530 NM Torque</p>
<p>(FG XR8) 0 &#8211; 100 km = 6.2 sec<br />
0 &#8211; 400 m = 14.3 sec</p>
<p>(VE SS) 0 &#8211; 100 km = 5.5 sec<br />
0 &#8211; 400 m = 13.6 sec</p>
<p>Now for the FPV/HSV specs.</p>
<p>FPV FG GTP = 315 KW &amp; 551 NM Torque<br />
HSV VE GTS = 317 KW &amp; 550 NM Torque</p>
<p>(FPV FG GTP) 0 &#8211; 100 km = 5.53 sec<br />
0 &#8211; 400 m = 13.62</p>
<p>(HSV VE GTS) 0 &#8211; 100 km = 4.96 sec<br />
0 &#8211; 400 m = 13.19 sec<br />
WTF? Mate, ur a wanker aye, like seriously. Theyve oulled a 13.4 from the gt&#8217;s, only 13.3&#8217;s from ur $75,000 gts, n the ss doesnt do 13.6 its 13.8 by wheels, n the xr8 is a flat 14 which is still slower, but ud still be cryin when u see the turbo range fly past lol. G6E turbo=13 seconds flat, XR6 Turbo=13.1 n the all mighty hsv n holden crushin F6 has been said to have gone as low as 12.6 seconds when FPV where developing it, n its been done in stock standard F6 in real world times. So mate, eat shit n die cause times have changed, its the era of the tubo mate. N fpv have a new v8 for 2010, its gonna be either a dohc 5.o litre V8 or a 6.2 Litre dohc V8, both which are all alloy, n itl still sound way better then anything on offer from holden or hsv. Go the FPV/Fords !!!!!! N yes, I do hate anything gm related lol</p>
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		<title>By: Geni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, no, there have been no announcements on if the Falcon will cease to be produced past 2015. All we know is that come 2013 - 2015 the Geelong engine plant *may* shutdown. That might just mean the Falcon gets the V6 engine from the state. Regardless of what happens to Falcon, the Focus will be produced here from 2011 onwards. And Ford Aus are the lead engineering centre for the light truck that will replace the Ford Ranger/Mazda BT50 worldwide, as well as design the Ford India B-car, which is basically a fiesta type car for the Indian market.

As for Holden, they haven&#039;t made any announcements either, but with their decision to produce a small car in Aus as well, they won&#039;t be going anywhere soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, no, there have been no announcements on if the Falcon will cease to be produced past 2015. All we know is that come 2013 &#8211; 2015 the Geelong engine plant *may* shutdown. That might just mean the Falcon gets the V6 engine from the state. Regardless of what happens to Falcon, the Focus will be produced here from 2011 onwards. And Ford Aus are the lead engineering centre for the light truck that will replace the Ford Ranger/Mazda BT50 worldwide, as well as design the Ford India B-car, which is basically a fiesta type car for the Indian market.</p>
<p>As for Holden, they haven&#8217;t made any announcements either, but with their decision to produce a small car in Aus as well, they won&#8217;t be going anywhere soon.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO IS FORD FALCON CEASING PRODUCTION IN 2015 OR THE WHOLE COMPANY 


so no more falcon aye 

is this true infomation cause u never no they prob will change there mids after a a couple of years and put it it back more years


is there any certian facts the falcon is ceasing production and why,

what whould happen the the holden would the cease the produciton off the commordore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO IS FORD FALCON CEASING PRODUCTION IN 2015 OR THE WHOLE COMPANY </p>
<p>so no more falcon aye </p>
<p>is this true infomation cause u never no they prob will change there mids after a a couple of years and put it it back more years</p>
<p>is there any certian facts the falcon is ceasing production and why,</p>
<p>what whould happen the the holden would the cease the produciton off the commordore</p>
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		<title>By: Ben H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 12:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One hopes that the global financial crisis brings so sense to car manufacturers that currently produce totally irrelevant vehicles eg HSV range with a stupendous 6.2 litre engine and even FPV 5.4 litre engine. Performance can be had with half those capacities. Then again those with insecurities about their manhood would disagree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One hopes that the global financial crisis brings so sense to car manufacturers that currently produce totally irrelevant vehicles eg HSV range with a stupendous 6.2 litre engine and even FPV 5.4 litre engine. Performance can be had with half those capacities. Then again those with insecurities about their manhood would disagree</p>
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		<title>By: Robman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer cheeseburgers, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, cheeseburgers.

Oh yeah. Holden rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer cheeseburgers, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, cheeseburgers.</p>
<p>Oh yeah. Holden rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daytona,
its more than a one year jumpstart.
the I6 was scheduled to cease in 2010. another 3 years (at least) has been thrown onto it, with reports of until 2015.

the new V6 was supposed to be put into the current falcon platform in 2010. the current platform was always going to run till 2013, with the last 3 years being a V6 powered.
now the current will run a I6 till the end.

on the skaiffe saga,
i now read as i suspected......
skaiffe has thrown his remaining share back to walkinshaw.
Walkinshaws ownership becomes immediate.
its still subject the boards acceptance. apparently they dont see Walkinshaw as a suitable owner nor holder of a licence due to his past.

God help the sport if walkinshaw is allowed to control a team again.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daytona,<br />
its more than a one year jumpstart.<br />
the I6 was scheduled to cease in 2010. another 3 years (at least) has been thrown onto it, with reports of until 2015.</p>
<p>the new V6 was supposed to be put into the current falcon platform in 2010. the current platform was always going to run till 2013, with the last 3 years being a V6 powered.<br />
now the current will run a I6 till the end.</p>
<p>on the skaiffe saga,<br />
i now read as i suspected&#8230;&#8230;<br />
skaiffe has thrown his remaining share back to walkinshaw.<br />
Walkinshaws ownership becomes immediate.<br />
its still subject the boards acceptance. apparently they dont see Walkinshaw as a suitable owner nor holder of a licence due to his past.</p>
<p>God help the sport if walkinshaw is allowed to control a team again&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Daytona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daytona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M,
Agreed it is a shame that Scaiffe has been let out to dry on this one, Walkinshaw screwed him over big time. Unfortunately it was a business deal and you take risks, his hasn’t paid off and now his team will probably start cutting budgets and become uncompetitive, and we don’t need that in the V8 supercars. Stone brothers cant win em&#039; all.

Great article about the F6. Its my first time and i love the passion all of you have put into your blogging. 

For all those speculating about Ford&#039;s future here, I recently learnt that they will continue to make the I6 engine until 2013. Why the 1 yr extension? Because the next falcon&#039;s design team has been told to &#039;tools down&#039;. This indicates the possible end of the falcon in 2014 with a replacement from O/S. They were looking at the new Jag platform but Tata owns that now, or a cut and shut Mondeo 4WD which make sense to align ourselves with the Euro Ford who is profitable unlike US. 

I get to roll my company XR8 in Nov next year and I plan to get the XR6T. This will be the last great bargain performance car and engine to come from Australia, I thoroughly  recommend all of you get some Holden or Ford Aussie muscle before its too late (2013).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M,<br />
Agreed it is a shame that Scaiffe has been let out to dry on this one, Walkinshaw screwed him over big time. Unfortunately it was a business deal and you take risks, his hasn’t paid off and now his team will probably start cutting budgets and become uncompetitive, and we don’t need that in the V8 supercars. Stone brothers cant win em&#8217; all.</p>
<p>Great article about the F6. Its my first time and i love the passion all of you have put into your blogging. </p>
<p>For all those speculating about Ford&#8217;s future here, I recently learnt that they will continue to make the I6 engine until 2013. Why the 1 yr extension? Because the next falcon&#8217;s design team has been told to &#8216;tools down&#8217;. This indicates the possible end of the falcon in 2014 with a replacement from O/S. They were looking at the new Jag platform but Tata owns that now, or a cut and shut Mondeo 4WD which make sense to align ourselves with the Euro Ford who is profitable unlike US. </p>
<p>I get to roll my company XR8 in Nov next year and I plan to get the XR6T. This will be the last great bargain performance car and engine to come from Australia, I thoroughly  recommend all of you get some Holden or Ford Aussie muscle before its too late (2013).</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut &amp; Andrew M,
It’s probably more of a Media Mike Rann political stunt, but see the following story:
(CA seems to have chosen to ignore this story)

Holden’s four-cylinder fightback:

www. news. com. au
/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24718072-2682,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut &amp; Andrew M,<br />
It’s probably more of a Media Mike Rann political stunt, but see the following story:<br />
(CA seems to have chosen to ignore this story)</p>
<p>Holden’s four-cylinder fightback:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.' rel='nofollow'>www.</a> news. com. au<br />
/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24718072-2682,00.html</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about pumping up the miles XA-MONT!!!!!

ive had mine for roughly the same time and only put on around 3500ks.

on another topic,
it seems as if skaiffe is broke and trying to avoid bankrupsy. its reported that he has sold his mansion and moved to a rented flat.
apparently he is 3.6 million in debt.

lets see what holden do about it.....
holden just seem to screw over their main men.
first it was brocky, then lowndes, and now skaiffe.

ive never really been a fan of skaiffe, but it seems a bit unfair if holden lets skaiffe go down. he was after all only their front/fall man so HRT wasnt kicked out of the game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about pumping up the miles XA-MONT!!!!!</p>
<p>ive had mine for roughly the same time and only put on around 3500ks.</p>
<p>on another topic,<br />
it seems as if skaiffe is broke and trying to avoid bankrupsy. its reported that he has sold his mansion and moved to a rented flat.<br />
apparently he is 3.6 million in debt.</p>
<p>lets see what holden do about it&#8230;..<br />
holden just seem to screw over their main men.<br />
first it was brocky, then lowndes, and now skaiffe.</p>
<p>ive never really been a fan of skaiffe, but it seems a bit unfair if holden lets skaiffe go down. he was after all only their front/fall man so HRT wasnt kicked out of the game</p>
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		<title>By: XA-MONT</title>
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		<dc:creator>XA-MONT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 07:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everyone.

As a HUGE V8 fan (i have an XB sedan and an XA coupe, both V8&#039;s) when it came time to replace the crappy VP i had as a daily driver i had a hard decision to make. 

8 or 6?

Once you look around at some forums (ones with a little bit more... selectivity of members... than this one) The decision became easy.

The I6T (why are people calling it an L6??) is just an amazing thing. The power that it has on tap when you want it, along with the great economy when you play nice &gt;:D

Sure there is a lot of contension over the new design direction of the FG (as there is for the VE, which personaly i HATE as a base model, but LOVE as a higher model, such as SS/GTS/R8/not so sure on the W427) but personally i like it. And as far as the rear guards on the ute are concerned... drive on of these utes, and look in the rear wide mirrors, the amount that they bulge out is the kind of things little teenie rev heads wet dreams are made of and are very reminicent of the XA/B/C coupe rear ends.

Build quality is neither here nor there really, i have found no problems (apart from 2 tiny rattles, the glove box and the rear left speaker cover) and the materials seem good (nice leather, the dash is nice and soft, no &quot;cheap&quot; feeling plastics). so as far as im concerned, for the money they are a great car with very reasonable build quality.

Just my 2c. 

BTW... i ended up getting an XR6T Ute in Ego with lux, tech, tow and safety packs, and 6 weeks after getting it already have 11000 kms on the clock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone.</p>
<p>As a HUGE V8 fan (i have an XB sedan and an XA coupe, both V8&#8217;s) when it came time to replace the crappy VP i had as a daily driver i had a hard decision to make. </p>
<p>8 or 6?</p>
<p>Once you look around at some forums (ones with a little bit more&#8230; selectivity of members&#8230; than this one) The decision became easy.</p>
<p>The I6T (why are people calling it an L6??) is just an amazing thing. The power that it has on tap when you want it, along with the great economy when you play nice &gt;:D</p>
<p>Sure there is a lot of contension over the new design direction of the FG (as there is for the VE, which personaly i HATE as a base model, but LOVE as a higher model, such as SS/GTS/R8/not so sure on the W427) but personally i like it. And as far as the rear guards on the ute are concerned&#8230; drive on of these utes, and look in the rear wide mirrors, the amount that they bulge out is the kind of things little teenie rev heads wet dreams are made of and are very reminicent of the XA/B/C coupe rear ends.</p>
<p>Build quality is neither here nor there really, i have found no problems (apart from 2 tiny rattles, the glove box and the rear left speaker cover) and the materials seem good (nice leather, the dash is nice and soft, no &#8220;cheap&#8221; feeling plastics). so as far as im concerned, for the money they are a great car with very reasonable build quality.</p>
<p>Just my 2c. </p>
<p>BTW&#8230; i ended up getting an XR6T Ute in Ego with lux, tech, tow and safety packs, and 6 weeks after getting it already have 11000 kms on the clock.</p>
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		<title>By: FRUGAL_ONE</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRUGAL_ONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, does the Falcon or the Commodore have the better glovebox?

Why, discuss.

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, does the Falcon or the Commodore have the better glovebox?</p>
<p>Why, discuss.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: bencong</title>
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		<dc:creator>bencong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its made in australia so it will let you down.holden or ford the build quality is 3rd world.very sad that we all seem to accept 2nd rate build and reliability in aus made cars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its made in australia so it will let you down.holden or ford the build quality is 3rd world.very sad that we all seem to accept 2nd rate build and reliability in aus made cars</p>
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		<title>By: Greeny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomas79....Holden already have the hair dreesing industry covered .......those girly mobile gloveboxes they call utes has all the feminine appeal a hair dresser needs.lol the IRS rear end is useless in a ute and I wouldnt want to put anywhere near 500 kg in a Hloden ute !!!  My Falcon ute has been down roads that you wouldnt even think of taking a Holden ute with IRS down, and the habdling is as good if not better......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomas79&#8230;.Holden already have the hair dreesing industry covered &#8230;&#8230;.those girly mobile gloveboxes they call utes has all the feminine appeal a hair dresser needs.lol the IRS rear end is useless in a ute and I wouldnt want to put anywhere near 500 kg in a Hloden ute !!!  My Falcon ute has been down roads that you wouldnt even think of taking a Holden ute with IRS down, and the habdling is as good if not better&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 01:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, looking at the payload of 530kg, is this ute aimed at the hairdressing industry??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, looking at the payload of 530kg, is this ute aimed at the hairdressing industry??</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M - I never said the Falcon WILL be FWD I said that there were reports that it could go FWD - I read them you read them.... I also said that I hope it doesn&#039;t happen. From what you told me it looks like the Falcon is to remain RWD which is good news.

The thing is the reports about the Falcon going FWD were in both major car magazines and in a number of major newspapers but the news about the Falcon being guauranteed to be RWD wasn&#039;t [as much].... the media went quiet on it so not many people knew whether or not things had changed

Same applies to Holden with their small car plans - a couple of months ago The media picked up on and released the initial reports that Holden are planning to make a small car in Adelaide but since then there hasn&#039;t been anything in the media to confirm or deny that it will still go ahead. 

As the reversal of the Ford Engine Plant decision shows things can happen quite quickly or unexpectedly however; alot of things in the Auto industry also happen in secret. so I guess we&#039;ll have to wait and see.

My point is just cos you don&#039;t here about it doesn&#039;t mean it didn&#039;t or won&#039;t happen.. there is often alot more going on than what the media picks up on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M &#8211; I never said the Falcon WILL be FWD I said that there were reports that it could go FWD &#8211; I read them you read them&#8230;. I also said that I hope it doesn&#8217;t happen. From what you told me it looks like the Falcon is to remain RWD which is good news.</p>
<p>The thing is the reports about the Falcon going FWD were in both major car magazines and in a number of major newspapers but the news about the Falcon being guauranteed to be RWD wasn&#8217;t [as much]&#8230;. the media went quiet on it so not many people knew whether or not things had changed</p>
<p>Same applies to Holden with their small car plans &#8211; a couple of months ago The media picked up on and released the initial reports that Holden are planning to make a small car in Adelaide but since then there hasn&#8217;t been anything in the media to confirm or deny that it will still go ahead. </p>
<p>As the reversal of the Ford Engine Plant decision shows things can happen quite quickly or unexpectedly however; alot of things in the Auto industry also happen in secret. so I guess we&#8217;ll have to wait and see.</p>
<p>My point is just cos you don&#8217;t here about it doesn&#8217;t mean it didn&#8217;t or won&#8217;t happen.. there is often alot more going on than what the media picks up on.</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M - Nothing has been &quot;confirmed&quot; as yet in regards to Holden building a small car here

However&#039; as you said in your previous comments &quot;Never say Never&quot; 

which means even though Ford are apparently preparing to build the Focus here... things could change and it could be Cancelled at the last minute just as Fords export program was

I remember that Ford Oz was also going to build the new Mustang here [[on the Falcon Platform] but that got cancelled didn&#039;t it?

Holden are &quot;keeping their options open&quot; - although word from the factory is that they are getting ready to restart the old vectra production line in the other half of the factory... I wonder why they are doing that?

Thing is Because the Federal KRudd Gummint has recently announced it will reduce tariffs to 5% = virtually nothing.. which will [unfortunately] make it easier and cheaper and more viable to continue importing cars here than make them.not only the Focus or Astra but also the Falcon Commodore and even the Aurion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M &#8211; Nothing has been &#8220;confirmed&#8221; as yet in regards to Holden building a small car here</p>
<p>However&#8217; as you said in your previous comments &#8220;Never say Never&#8221; </p>
<p>which means even though Ford are apparently preparing to build the Focus here&#8230; things could change and it could be Cancelled at the last minute just as Fords export program was</p>
<p>I remember that Ford Oz was also going to build the new Mustang here [[on the Falcon Platform] but that got cancelled didn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Holden are &#8220;keeping their options open&#8221; &#8211; although word from the factory is that they are getting ready to restart the old vectra production line in the other half of the factory&#8230; I wonder why they are doing that?</p>
<p>Thing is Because the Federal KRudd Gummint has recently announced it will reduce tariffs to 5% = virtually nothing.. which will [unfortunately] make it easier and cheaper and more viable to continue importing cars here than make them.not only the Focus or Astra but also the Falcon Commodore and even the Aurion</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thursty,
I got those surveys from ford when i bought my FG too.

never had them before with previous purchases.

to me it says they are committed to make sure there product is better quality, and above that their service was good.
A lot of those questions related to the service you were given from the dealership, and the phone one was solely related to the service from the dealership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thursty,<br />
I got those surveys from ford when i bought my FG too.</p>
<p>never had them before with previous purchases.</p>
<p>to me it says they are committed to make sure there product is better quality, and above that their service was good.<br />
A lot of those questions related to the service you were given from the dealership, and the phone one was solely related to the service from the dealership.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thursty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own a Holden SS ute &amp; and F6310 (sedan).

How weird am i???

F6 goes faster... SS sounds better! 

But seriously.... i have owned Holden V8&#039;s for a number of years and i just got my F6 a couple of months ago. I love the perfomance of the F6, i am still not sold on the build quality and reliablity.

If the number of surveys i have got from Ford regarding problems, is anything to go by... the future doesn&#039;t look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a Holden SS ute &amp; and F6310 (sedan).</p>
<p>How weird am i???</p>
<p>F6 goes faster&#8230; SS sounds better! </p>
<p>But seriously&#8230;. i have owned Holden V8&#8217;s for a number of years and i just got my F6 a couple of months ago. I love the perfomance of the F6, i am still not sold on the build quality and reliablity.</p>
<p>If the number of surveys i have got from Ford regarding problems, is anything to go by&#8230; the future doesn&#8217;t look good.</p>
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