Comments on: Pontiac to drop VE-based G8 range?

By: Spider

Spider — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:22:26 +0000

Funny how no matter how much the future looks bleak for Fords and holdens, the loyal fanatics still manage to see the bright side. And always blame any negatives on everything else, including caradvice writers…

By: GQB

GQB — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:30:15 +0000

For any sale of GM’s various subsidiaries to go ahead you need a willing buyer. Unfortuantely in these times we can’t rely on our past experiences, current events show us that even the biggest companies can fail, and these are very unusual and turbulent times. I do hope that all goes well in the long run as I like the current release Commodore particularly the Sportwagon.

By: john achterberg

john achterberg — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:27:58 +0000

shouldnt be problem for pontiac as i doubt very much that there will be a commodore to replace the woefull ve,unless holden learns what quality and customer service means and i cant see that happening.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:02:31 +0000

Captain Man whinging – GM may be in financial trouble at the moment but what do most people do when they are in need of funds…? they sell off their assets – and a company is no different. so it’s more likely GM will sell off Holden to another company

Either that or they will stop production in the USA and start making RWD cars in either Australia or Canada and their FWD cars in Europe then simply import them into the USA.. that is after streamlining their line up by getting rid of Hummer Pontiac and Buick etc leaving the two “traditional” companies Chevrolet and Cadillac

The reason behind this is simple; when in trouble you focus on your strengths and in terms of RWD cars Holden are the experts in GM family whereas in terms of FWD cars its Opel – compared to the cars Holden and Opel make most US built GM cars are in a word CRAP.

By: Captain Mainwaring

Captain Mainwaring — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:43:19 +0000

You guys are all in dreamland. There will not be a next-generation Commodore anywhere except on the drawing board, because GM will be gone before it arrives. What you need to understand is that the mothership in the USA is about to impact with the ground, and that means goodbye Holden. Very sad, but we live in dramatically-unfolding economic times and only the cleverest global car companies are going to survive.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:33:05 +0000

Wheelnut,
ha ha ha,
i already assumed that.
i agree, holden will play the perception game with their route to build a smaller car.
the new commodore could possibly be worse on fuel because it would retain pretty much the same weight whilst taking on the speculated smaller 3.2L engine.
Also didnt they learn anything with the 4cyl commodore of many years ago?? it was worse than the 6cyl on juice!!!!

but with my thoughts aside, they will probably shift a few more numbers due to the poor perception out there.

BM,
Yeah thanks.
Im really happy with the colour of it.
i wasnt too fussed on it in BF shape, but in the FG i reckon its a winner. everyone who has seen it loves the colour too.
yesterday morning i went to pick up a load of gravel (no, I didnt put it in the back, thats why i have 2 trailers), and as i was about to drive out one of their truck drivers flagged me down.
he asked me what the colour was called, and said he was considering painting his crane truck that colour because he really liked it

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:37:52 +0000

Ooopps….The last 2 comments made under “Bavarian Missile” were actually made by me; “Wheelnut”.
It’s just that ATM we are sharing the same computer [until my gear arrives from Adelaide next week] and I forgot to change identities.

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:02:18 +0000

Andrew ML: I can’t see a smaller Commodore being that more fuel efficient either given that the current model is a “poofteenth” off that of a Camry [around town] and even better on the open road – particularly when both cars are loaded up with a family of 4 + their dog and all their luggage on a holiday.

It’s all just a matter of perception people will see that it’s smaller and automatically think that its lighter and therefore more fuel efficient.

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:56:06 +0000

Yep as expected the next generation Commodore 2012-14 WILL be the same size as the TT-36 Torana.. its likely to have 4cyl V6 “DITTO” V6 and possibly a Diesel engines.. V8?

I expect it will be built in RWD as that’s what Holden and the Commdodre are known for – with the possibility of AWD…. and switching to FWD will require more testing to equal the same performance handling dynamics of the current car. Not to mention the characteristics and carrying capacity of the Aussie Ute.. Plus if the Falcon gvecomes FWD they will pick up a few extra sales

Hopefully Holden also decide to build a coupe version and call it the Torana A9-X [I've seen some images of it and it looks awesome]

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:37:22 +0000

the story was on CH10