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	<title>Comments on: Toyota-Subaru FR sports coupe cost concerns</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loving it!! anymore updates?</description>
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		<title>By: Azza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Azza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... 

Toyota haven&#039;t created anything decent in my personal opinion since the Supra. And by the looks of it, they&#039;re dragging a brilliant brand down with them. Subaru are known for AWD, Boxer, they&#039;re amazing suspension and the best part, the engine noise... I don&#039;t see the point in even having the Boxer engine in that car plain and simply because there&#039;s nothing else that Subaru have to go with it. Bring back the &quot;Boy Racer&quot; any day.

On another note, the car itself, looks like a really ugly, longer version of the latest model Celica... Toyota, stick with making cars that are designed for people aged 60+. This car is just not going to cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; </p>
<p>Toyota haven&#8217;t created anything decent in my personal opinion since the Supra. And by the looks of it, they&#8217;re dragging a brilliant brand down with them. Subaru are known for AWD, Boxer, they&#8217;re amazing suspension and the best part, the engine noise&#8230; I don&#8217;t see the point in even having the Boxer engine in that car plain and simply because there&#8217;s nothing else that Subaru have to go with it. Bring back the &#8220;Boy Racer&#8221; any day.</p>
<p>On another note, the car itself, looks like a really ugly, longer version of the latest model Celica&#8230; Toyota, stick with making cars that are designed for people aged 60+. This car is just not going to cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: rich boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reminds me of something like a supra together with a coupe from Subaru</description>
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		<title>By: Car-Enthusiast</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17927/toyota-subaru-fr-sports-coupe-cost-concerns/#comment-99509</link>
		<dc:creator>Car-Enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL dude, do u ever get off this site, sry it took me so long to respond, BUT it was the WEEKEND, i bet u were waiting for my reply lol.

Lol now, A Car-Enthusiast appreciates Most car brands, not all. Because not every single Car Manufacturer makes good cars, u see y would i be interested or appreciate a 4 Cylinder, fwd no good JAP CRAP (hence Corolla etc etc), when i love V8 Muscle &amp; RWD, or AWD.

So y should i appreciate a Car Manufacturer (TOYOTA) that has given us nothing but old slush mobiles for the masses and for grannies to run around to the local supermarket in, and Hold up everyone on a highway or free-way, doing half the speed limit in the right lane.

Also as for u claiming i&#039;ve changed my opinion on the Renderings/CGI, well i havn&#039;t. In my first comment i was explaining that most renderings/Insider information is 70 to 80% correct. 

Now sure i might biased towards Toyota &amp; this car, but thats because of the Experience &amp; all that i have seen from Toyota. In the Last 20 or more years, their has been nothing fun, or good coming out of Toyota that u can buy. Now Toyota is a car Manufacturer that builds car&#039;s for the masses, and thats all it is going to do. And what might make u think that Toyota might change all that and decide to start building cars for NICHE markets, (such as Lamborghini, Ferrari, Buggati etc), or what might make u think that Toyota is going to build a car that is going to take on a GTR, HSV, M3 etc.

Now the Latest news on this car (Just in case u didn&#039;t know yet) Is that it will share a platform with the Subaru Legacy, and have a re-engineered Engine from the Subaru Impreza, &amp; Insider information are claiming that MAYBE it will come in a Convertible version.


Now as for capitalising non-nouns in sentences, it is to make the word STAND OUT, just in case some ppl miss it. How many times in a document do u see words in bold, underlined, Capitalised etc. LOL not to mention ur name isn&#039;t any better. 

Also Y should i type you when i can type U, or R for are, or y for WHY etc. This is not some formal contract, or english test for the HSC, where everyone might cry about any abreviations u make, (although some ppl seem to be crying about it). 

And as for Mispelling,  so much for UR&#039;s.  dimissing, lol what happened to the S did it run away, thats an F- for u in the English Exam. Not to Mention  the (1 in S H I T).

Now i dnt really care about stuff like that, cause no one is perfect, and we are who we all are, after all thats what makes us HUMAN, right. And im not the one turning a little joke, sarcasm and irony into an argument. 

And another thing whether this car is good or bad, fantastic or crap, at the end of the day Toyota is the Winner or Looser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL dude, do u ever get off this site, sry it took me so long to respond, BUT it was the WEEKEND, i bet u were waiting for my reply lol.</p>
<p>Lol now, A Car-Enthusiast appreciates Most car brands, not all. Because not every single Car Manufacturer makes good cars, u see y would i be interested or appreciate a 4 Cylinder, fwd no good JAP CRAP (hence Corolla etc etc), when i love V8 Muscle &amp; RWD, or AWD.</p>
<p>So y should i appreciate a Car Manufacturer (TOYOTA) that has given us nothing but old slush mobiles for the masses and for grannies to run around to the local supermarket in, and Hold up everyone on a highway or free-way, doing half the speed limit in the right lane.</p>
<p>Also as for u claiming i&#8217;ve changed my opinion on the Renderings/CGI, well i havn&#8217;t. In my first comment i was explaining that most renderings/Insider information is 70 to 80% correct. </p>
<p>Now sure i might biased towards Toyota &amp; this car, but thats because of the Experience &amp; all that i have seen from Toyota. In the Last 20 or more years, their has been nothing fun, or good coming out of Toyota that u can buy. Now Toyota is a car Manufacturer that builds car&#8217;s for the masses, and thats all it is going to do. And what might make u think that Toyota might change all that and decide to start building cars for NICHE markets, (such as Lamborghini, Ferrari, Buggati etc), or what might make u think that Toyota is going to build a car that is going to take on a GTR, HSV, M3 etc.</p>
<p>Now the Latest news on this car (Just in case u didn&#8217;t know yet) Is that it will share a platform with the Subaru Legacy, and have a re-engineered Engine from the Subaru Impreza, &amp; Insider information are claiming that MAYBE it will come in a Convertible version.</p>
<p>Now as for capitalising non-nouns in sentences, it is to make the word STAND OUT, just in case some ppl miss it. How many times in a document do u see words in bold, underlined, Capitalised etc. LOL not to mention ur name isn&#8217;t any better. </p>
<p>Also Y should i type you when i can type U, or R for are, or y for WHY etc. This is not some formal contract, or english test for the HSC, where everyone might cry about any abreviations u make, (although some ppl seem to be crying about it). </p>
<p>And as for Mispelling,  so much for UR&#8217;s.  dimissing, lol what happened to the S did it run away, thats an F- for u in the English Exam. Not to Mention  the (1 in S H I T).</p>
<p>Now i dnt really care about stuff like that, cause no one is perfect, and we are who we all are, after all thats what makes us HUMAN, right. And im not the one turning a little joke, sarcasm and irony into an argument. </p>
<p>And another thing whether this car is good or bad, fantastic or crap, at the end of the day Toyota is the Winner or Looser.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17927/toyota-subaru-fr-sports-coupe-cost-concerns/#comment-99235</link>
		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you read what I said properly:

&quot;We are not talking CGI renderings based on camo test mules&quot;

Do you lose your concentration after reading the first 5 words of a sentence?

It&#039;s funny how you&#039;ve totally changed your opinion now. In your first post you were 100% of the belief that the renderings were the real deal, now you&#039;re not quite so sure?

As for your &quot;prediction&quot;, here&#039;s mine:

If this car is absolutely stunning you will still say it looks sh 1 t because you&#039;re absolutely brimming with bias. I mean, dimissing a car because of the looks, (looks which hasn&#039;t even been released to the public) is the clearest example of bias that you can get. 

You&#039;re not a car enthusiast, you&#039;re a brand enthusiast. Car enthusiasts appreciate cars of all brands but you make your decisions primarily based on brand alone.

As for age, it&#039;s clear who is the 10 year old here. It&#039;s the guy who randomly capitalises non-nouns in sentences, mispells you with &quot;u&quot;. 

Get off your pedestal, grow up, and reserve your judgment until at least after official images are released. Then maybe people will take your opinion seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you read what I said properly:</p>
<p>&#8220;We are not talking CGI renderings based on camo test mules&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you lose your concentration after reading the first 5 words of a sentence?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how you&#8217;ve totally changed your opinion now. In your first post you were 100% of the belief that the renderings were the real deal, now you&#8217;re not quite so sure?</p>
<p>As for your &#8220;prediction&#8221;, here&#8217;s mine:</p>
<p>If this car is absolutely stunning you will still say it looks sh 1 t because you&#8217;re absolutely brimming with bias. I mean, dimissing a car because of the looks, (looks which hasn&#8217;t even been released to the public) is the clearest example of bias that you can get. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a car enthusiast, you&#8217;re a brand enthusiast. Car enthusiasts appreciate cars of all brands but you make your decisions primarily based on brand alone.</p>
<p>As for age, it&#8217;s clear who is the 10 year old here. It&#8217;s the guy who randomly capitalises non-nouns in sentences, mispells you with &#8220;u&#8221;. </p>
<p>Get off your pedestal, grow up, and reserve your judgment until at least after official images are released. Then maybe people will take your opinion seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Car-Enthusiast</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17927/toyota-subaru-fr-sports-coupe-cost-concerns/#comment-99201</link>
		<dc:creator>Car-Enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, RoFlmaTic, Jeez ur just a hypocrite, u just stated,[[ &quot;We are not talking CGI renderings&quot; ]], and a few comments up u said [[ &quot;Looking at that the first CGI picture&quot; ]]. lol dude, how old are u 5, or 10, or maybe 14? Have u even reached puberty yet? lmao and please Get OFF the weed that ur smoking.

Now since u decided to only read one part of my comment, ill just restate the other bit(s).

&quot;And if in this case it is different and the car looks like Nothing above, then i am predicting and pretty sure that the next so called Sports Coupe to come out of Toyota, will not in any way look Good.&quot;

NOW this has nothing to do with CGI, Rendering, Japanese car magazines or anything else. Now the only good/OK looking Toyota(s) ever made are likely to be a 1995 Toyota mr2, 1992 Toyota Celica GT4, and probably the old 1973 Toyota Celica.

And as u probably already know all the Current Toyota&#039;s are no where near what u might call good looking, So what in the name of all thats Holy might make u think that the Next Toyota is any different.

All Toyota cares about, is making more Fuel Effiecient cars for the Masses. &amp; As u might of probably known from the difference of the previous Gen Toyota Corolla to the Current gen Corolla(but thats a different story). 

Now here is some, weird and unlikely thought of but true facts. Toyota Prius&#039;s Have More of an effect on Global Warming then Ferrari&#039;s, y u might Ask, because Toyota sells way More Prius&#039;s then Ferrari sells of its cars, Per Year.(Just thought i&#039;d mention that to piss all the environmentalists off) LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, RoFlmaTic, Jeez ur just a hypocrite, u just stated,[[ "We are not talking CGI renderings" ]], and a few comments up u said [[ "Looking at that the first CGI picture" ]]. lol dude, how old are u 5, or 10, or maybe 14? Have u even reached puberty yet? lmao and please Get OFF the weed that ur smoking.</p>
<p>Now since u decided to only read one part of my comment, ill just restate the other bit(s).</p>
<p>&#8220;And if in this case it is different and the car looks like Nothing above, then i am predicting and pretty sure that the next so called Sports Coupe to come out of Toyota, will not in any way look Good.&#8221;</p>
<p>NOW this has nothing to do with CGI, Rendering, Japanese car magazines or anything else. Now the only good/OK looking Toyota(s) ever made are likely to be a 1995 Toyota mr2, 1992 Toyota Celica GT4, and probably the old 1973 Toyota Celica.</p>
<p>And as u probably already know all the Current Toyota&#8217;s are no where near what u might call good looking, So what in the name of all thats Holy might make u think that the Next Toyota is any different.</p>
<p>All Toyota cares about, is making more Fuel Effiecient cars for the Masses. &amp; As u might of probably known from the difference of the previous Gen Toyota Corolla to the Current gen Corolla(but thats a different story). </p>
<p>Now here is some, weird and unlikely thought of but true facts. Toyota Prius&#8217;s Have More of an effect on Global Warming then Ferrari&#8217;s, y u might Ask, because Toyota sells way More Prius&#8217;s then Ferrari sells of its cars, Per Year.(Just thought i&#8217;d mention that to piss all the environmentalists off) LOL</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17927/toyota-subaru-fr-sports-coupe-cost-concerns/#comment-99164</link>
		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the 7tune website:

&#039;As is usual for many Japanese car magazines (Best Car and Holiday Auto in particular), renders are aways included in the article to give the reader an idea of what the final car could look like. These images from Best Car of Toyota&#039;s compact FR sports car are only &quot;informed guesses&quot;&#039;

We are not talking CGI renderings based on camo test mules like the Falcon ones, which were rather accurate. That picture is totally some persons imagination.

I find it extremely ironic that a self proclaimed &quot;car enthusiast&quot; places so much emphasis on a cars appearance. That&#039;s if this GUESS is anywhere near the appearance the car will take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the 7tune website:</p>
<p>&#8216;As is usual for many Japanese car magazines (Best Car and Holiday Auto in particular), renders are aways included in the article to give the reader an idea of what the final car could look like. These images from Best Car of Toyota&#8217;s compact FR sports car are only &#8220;informed guesses&#8221;&#8216;</p>
<p>We are not talking CGI renderings based on camo test mules like the Falcon ones, which were rather accurate. That picture is totally some persons imagination.</p>
<p>I find it extremely ironic that a self proclaimed &#8220;car enthusiast&#8221; places so much emphasis on a cars appearance. That&#8217;s if this GUESS is anywhere near the appearance the car will take.</p>
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		<title>By: Car-Enthusiast</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17927/toyota-subaru-fr-sports-coupe-cost-concerns/#comment-99127</link>
		<dc:creator>Car-Enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, RoFlmaTic, I understand every single part of “renderings based upon insider speculation”, but if u were smart enough &amp; have been into cars for more than the last Half Hour u would relise, that most renderings from insider information is always about 70% to 80% correct. 

I mean almost every CGI shot of a car that comes out before a car’s release is pretty damn accurate and close to what the real thing looks like.

And if in this case it is different and the car looks like Nothing above, then i am predicting and pretty sure that the next so called Sports Coupe to come out of Toyota, will not in any way look Good.

I mean its already bad enough that Since Toyota took ownership of Subaru, that they have already ruined it a bit, Starting with the Impreza WRX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, RoFlmaTic, I understand every single part of “renderings based upon insider speculation”, but if u were smart enough &amp; have been into cars for more than the last Half Hour u would relise, that most renderings from insider information is always about 70% to 80% correct. </p>
<p>I mean almost every CGI shot of a car that comes out before a car’s release is pretty damn accurate and close to what the real thing looks like.</p>
<p>And if in this case it is different and the car looks like Nothing above, then i am predicting and pretty sure that the next so called Sports Coupe to come out of Toyota, will not in any way look Good.</p>
<p>I mean its already bad enough that Since Toyota took ownership of Subaru, that they have already ruined it a bit, Starting with the Impreza WRX.</p>
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		<title>By: RoFlmaTiC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoFlmaTiC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part of &quot;renderings based upon insider speculation&quot; don&#039;t you understand Car-enthusiast?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of &#8220;renderings based upon insider speculation&#8221; don&#8217;t you understand Car-enthusiast?</p>
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		<title>By: Car-Enthusiast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car-Enthusiast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Cheap (RICH) Boring car manufacturer, with a LOW Budget for a so called Sports Coupe. Yeah GoodLuck.

Not to mention they have already saved money on the styling, cause i can already see some Design cue&#039;s from Other Cars on this Gay Toyota, (Starting with the Bonnet and the whole front end)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Cheap (RICH) Boring car manufacturer, with a LOW Budget for a so called Sports Coupe. Yeah GoodLuck.</p>
<p>Not to mention they have already saved money on the styling, cause i can already see some Design cue&#8217;s from Other Cars on this Gay Toyota, (Starting with the Bonnet and the whole front end)</p>
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