And hey THE SALESMEN, what dealership do you work for, “JOES ROCKETS” that sells 2 cars a month, obviously you dont work for someone big, because if you did you will know that V6′s are still selling. And you think that Toyota will get Holden and Fords share of the market, what with its 4 cylinder Camry thats louder than a 6litre SS. Or with its electric car the Prius, which looks like a bar of soap on wheels and costs just as much as an SS. Or maybe with its ‘very safe’ Yaris, which is designed by someone smoking pot, its the ugliest thing out there. Dream On.

Everything is only as good as its weakest link.
whats the point of having a more balanced chassis, if you arent going give it the suspension it deserves??

and on the flip side, whats the point of great suspension if its not on the ultimate platform.

the reviews i have read place the 6cyl Falcon range as the better steerer, but its the V8 models where the Commodore is rated as the better steerer.
the commodore obviously deals with the extra weight of a V8 up front better due to having a lesser over hang and hence keeping the weight back further.

for ford to tune a chassis that was designed some 15 years ago and have it more than competitive with a newly designed one is a fair effort i reckon.

and on a side note,
its not just the monotube dampers that have made the BF-FG transition better, its also the new steering rack and pivot front suspension taken front the territory.

That point remains. Also maybe the FG gets through the cones better, i don’t know, but everything i have read says the VE “feels” better in the steering. As we all know the car that “feels” the best isn’t necessarily the fastest. Perfect example is how the current STI is actually quicker round a race track then an EVO X, even though the EVO X feels a million times better.

you said the VE has better handling and thats the point i am disputing.

in the cone test which asseses steering directness and turn in etc, the FG came out on top.

then i went on to say you may be right as far as the XR8 V SS models go as i have read reports that the XR8 tends to dip a bit on turn in due to the extra weight.

this doesnt affect the 6cyl models.
the 6cyl models have been proven to be superior in steering directness.
i havent seen a cone/manouver test on the V8 models, but from reading reviews, the SS would prob come out on top.

now ill have to try and remember where i saw the test. perhaps it was on drive because i also remember seeing the video to acompany the review

So theres no contradiction at all there mate, and i think you know that. If your gonna suggest that because a car has better steering then another car then it automatically makes it dyanmically superior then your having a laugh and you know it. There is so much more to a cars dynamics then just the steering directness.

To summaries just to make sure you cannot possibly miss-understand me

steering in the VE is better then the FG

ride control, composure, grip, brakes, and basically everything else about the dynamic experience with the possible exception of power down/drive out of slow corners, the FG is better then the VE

Therefore, the FG is dynamically superior in all aspects other then steering, which supports what i was saying before 100%.