Comments on: Mitsubishi wins eighth Australian Off-Road title

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:55:24 +0000

and a ladder chassis IS only better for body lifts, maybe in the olden days they where more durable then the monobodies, but these days the monobodies are actually more often then not alot stronger then a ladder chassis! As well as better in crashes and better for NVH. Ladder chassis are great for body lifts, not alot else

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:53:02 +0000

Tomas – i’m not going to argue with you, the pajero has won more 4wd of the year gongs by 4×4 Australia then the prado, end of story.

The solid rear axle of the prado is definetly an advantage in rear articulation, but i bet you didn’t know that the IFS of a pajero articulates more then the IFS on a prado. Also did you know that the front diff on a pajero is bigger then the REAR diff on a hilux? Yep those Pajero’s ARE actually pretty strong mate.

A modified prado will always be stronger off road then a modified pajero due to the solid rear axle, but in standard form, there is stuff all difference, there really truly isnt. Both are about as good as each other.

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:47:51 +0000

DanMan – no idea what your talking about, i’m bloody agreeing with you that large mining companies buy toyota’s because of the huge fleet savings they make, thats the whole point of what both Bret and myself where saying, you seem to be arguing with me over the same bloody point mate! As i said, you just noticed that Richo was saying something and thought “i’m gonna have an argument with this bloke”

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:47:39 +0000

Richo, Please tell me where have I said that the LC200 and Prado share anything??? Also are you employing that the 70 series land cruiser shares anything with LC200?

Please try to comprehend what i have said in my original statement!!

Also i have considered getting a Pajero, since it’s cheaper, but offroad it’s left far behind the prado.. The wheels simply just don’t have as much articulation!!
Also in every review that i have read, (and i have subscribed to 3 4×4 magazines)the Prado beats it offroad!!

And if think that ladder chassis, and solid rear axle is only good for body lifts, you don’t know shi!t about 4wds!!

By: Bret

Bret — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:20:41 +0000

DanMan Says:
October 21st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
“Perception equals Reality.. Not my rules, just the way it is.. ”

Nothing could be farther from the truth, and case in point, Toyota proves it nicely – Thanks!

By: DanMan

DanMan — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:16:31 +0000

RICHO,

Perception equals Reality.. Not my rules, just the way it is..

(I love my invisible friend!)
As in a large multi-national company that doesn’t even know you exsist but you are happy to argue about.. love it!

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:02:56 +0000

Also Thomas fact is in the real world the pajero is every bit as capable as the prado, and is certainly as durable. All the lack of a separate chassis does is make the car safer and the car a little bit more refined. The only real advantage in a separate chassis is that you can do a body lift, but how many new prado’s do you see getting around with a body lift anyway?

I think you have been listening to a few too many Toyota diehards mate… Toyota’s are tough cars, but their “advantage” over the other manufacturers is fairly negligible now days and is mainly a myth. Nearly all Japanese manufacturers are just as good now days.

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:49:18 +0000

Thomas the landcruiser 200 and the prado are two completely separate cars, they don’t have a lot in common, just as how the landcruiser 78 has nothing at all to do with the landcruiser 200. In some markets Toyota like the leverage the landcruiser brand by calling the prado a landcruiser 120, just as how here in Australia it’s officially known as the “landcruiser prado” but in reality they are two completely separate cars and we where all debating them in that context.

By: Tomas79

Tomas79 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:53:28 +0000

Richo, Chucky the Prado is a Landcruiser 120!!
Landcruiser is just a term for Toyota’s serius 4wd wagons and their ute derivatives!! at the moment in australia you can buy 76,78,79,120,200 series landrcuisers!!
And the Pajero is certainly significantly softer then prado with it’s all around independent suspension and monocone body!!

By: DanMan

DanMan — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:40:32 +0000

Yes but do the Taliban use Mitsubishi’s? I think not! LOL

Look up ‘Toyota war’ on wikipedia for the ultimate realiability backhanded compliment..

Ummm probably because a 70 series is one of the few cars you can buy that will be there for 35 years…
Also a lot of them are bought with drought relief cheques… nice margin in them.. not that i would know.

Why buy a Veyron when a porsche turbo does 80% for 30% price? If you have to ask…