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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such an old issue, I&#039;ve ridden and raced for more than 26 years. The road rules are fine, any one who wants to break them can pay the fine riders and drivers included.

Why don&#039;t the police book more cyclists without helmets? riding 3 abreast? disobeying road rules. I believe the Cops need to pull thier fingers out and get vigulant, stop policeing based on revenue raised, get tough and uphold the existing law.  

Bike lanes are dangerous for so many reasons, the road rules are fine. 

If we all pulled our heads in, and opened our eyes we&#039;d live alot longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such an old issue, I&#8217;ve ridden and raced for more than 26 years. The road rules are fine, any one who wants to break them can pay the fine riders and drivers included.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t the police book more cyclists without helmets? riding 3 abreast? disobeying road rules. I believe the Cops need to pull thier fingers out and get vigulant, stop policeing based on revenue raised, get tough and uphold the existing law.  </p>
<p>Bike lanes are dangerous for so many reasons, the road rules are fine. </p>
<p>If we all pulled our heads in, and opened our eyes we&#8217;d live alot longer.</p>
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		<title>By: i used to be a women</title>
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		<dc:creator>i used to be a women</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a seat on ya bike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a seat on ya bike</p>
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		<title>By: slugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>slugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...I think you need to read my post.

I took issue with Pinkie&#039;s aggression towards others, something you are condemning.

Play the ball and not the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;I think you need to read my post.</p>
<p>I took issue with Pinkie&#8217;s aggression towards others, something you are condemning.</p>
<p>Play the ball and not the man.</p>
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		<title>By: romo</title>
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		<dc:creator>romo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I was a bike rider, I’d think the government were doing more to hinder than to help.&quot; exercise bikes don&#039;t count. never did psychology, don&#039;t need to to understand the mindset of people like you. Yes of course no lights is moronic. As a bike rider, I can&#039;t believe you would attack someone who is trying to defend th rights of other people to ride their bikes withot fear of being mowed down by some hyped-up bogan in an SUV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I was a bike rider, I’d think the government were doing more to hinder than to help.&#8221; exercise bikes don&#8217;t count. never did psychology, don&#8217;t need to to understand the mindset of people like you. Yes of course no lights is moronic. As a bike rider, I can&#8217;t believe you would attack someone who is trying to defend th rights of other people to ride their bikes withot fear of being mowed down by some hyped-up bogan in an SUV.</p>
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		<title>By: slugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>slugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paternalistic aggression? What planet are you on? 

I do ride a bicycle (oops, burst your bubble), I also ride a motorbike and drive a car. I didn&#039;t actually call anyone a moron who doesn&#039;t behave moronically - such as someone riding down a street at night without their lights on. How is that not moronic? What a delicate little petal you are if you think that isn&#039;t a ridiculous way to ride.

If what I do is paternalistic aggression (have you not got past first year psychology yet?) then society needs a complete re-think on what it is. Your aggression is marvellously off-beam. Keep that up, I need a laugh once in a while.

Paternalistic aggression...next I&#039;ll be blaming my mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paternalistic aggression? What planet are you on? </p>
<p>I do ride a bicycle (oops, burst your bubble), I also ride a motorbike and drive a car. I didn&#8217;t actually call anyone a moron who doesn&#8217;t behave moronically &#8211; such as someone riding down a street at night without their lights on. How is that not moronic? What a delicate little petal you are if you think that isn&#8217;t a ridiculous way to ride.</p>
<p>If what I do is paternalistic aggression (have you not got past first year psychology yet?) then society needs a complete re-think on what it is. Your aggression is marvellously off-beam. Keep that up, I need a laugh once in a while.</p>
<p>Paternalistic aggression&#8230;next I&#8217;ll be blaming my mother.</p>
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		<title>By: romo</title>
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		<dc:creator>romo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow slugger, take a chill pill mate. you are really living up to your name. it&#039;s paternalistic aggression like yours, in people who don&#039;t ride bicycles, which is the problem. you talk about morons on bicycles, then maybe you do ride one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow slugger, take a chill pill mate. you are really living up to your name. it&#8217;s paternalistic aggression like yours, in people who don&#8217;t ride bicycles, which is the problem. you talk about morons on bicycles, then maybe you do ride one.</p>
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		<title>By: slugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>slugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, Pinkie Ponk, you are part of the cyclist problem, possibly without knowing it. In your posts here, you have suggested that only men are bothered by pushbike riders by saying it&#039;s about testicles in overdrive (weak and, basically, a dull argument), you wave away the damaging of someone&#039;s property by saying (But cyclists aren’t the only ones to hit and run, it’s a dud argument&#039;) as though pushbike riders should be allowed to take some kind of revenge for their fallen comrades. The cars that hit and run can (and should) be pursued by the law because they can be identified. The idiot who was hanging on to the rear wing of my WRX who nearly ripped it off because I was accelerating is not identifiable. He would be rather less identifiable if I hadn&#039;t seen him and got off the gas.

You then justify pushbike riders taking to the footpath (illegally) to dodge lights, if they take to the footpath at all. The operative word is illegal. They shouldn&#039;t do it. Why is it ok?

This is one of my favourites:

&#039;You seem to have blotted out the hit and runs on cyclists that cars do, even some deaths. But the horror that your bumper was scratched, diddums.&#039;

Okay, well, if you feel that way, may I have your details so that I may sneak around to your home one evening and bend a wheel? Perhaps, daub some battery acid on your front door? After all, cyclists have killed on occasion so a pedestrian like me bending your wheel, well, diddums. Oh, no hang on, that would be wrong of me.

You also seem to be missing basic physics. In many, not all, instances, pushing to the front at lights is simply endangering oneself unless there is a safe bike path. It&#039;s not &#039;green&#039; to hold up traffic by tootling along in the middle of a lane where cars are. It is also not green to ignore bike lanes when they are provided. If you don&#039;t use them, they should be taken away...no? I&#039;m not saying riders shouldn&#039;t push to the front, I&#039;m saying they should be sensible about it. See, sensible? Not &#039;get off the road&#039; but &#039;sensible.&#039; There are ways and means.

So what you&#039;re saying is, pushbike riders are allowed to break the law because their life is in danger doing what they do but drivers should temper their jealousy? You take an interesting line. My line is that pushbikes should and could have dedicated cycleways and obey the road rules when riding in company with cars. Cars are big, steel and glass and they can hurt you if you&#039;re not being careful. They can also hurt you if the driver is being careful. More cyclists need to be aware that bad things can happen to them if they are not watchful. If you were to take your own advice, why are you pushing to the front? Why are you so insistent in being in the middle of motorised traffic?

You show a complete lack of respect for others in your posts and have said little that is even mildly constructive. If your attitude hasn&#039;t already garnered negative comment from other road users, I would be astounded. Remind me to stay away from you because you seem to think it&#039;s okay to be closed-minded and militant about your rights, but discriminate against the rights of others to not have to pay for damage on the basis of how they transport themselves is bigotry of the highest order. You have an immature outlook and no doubt have a number of other blind bigotries to add to the impressive collection you have displayed here. I wish you good luck in your endeavours because I reckon if I had a mouth like yours, I&#039;d have had my teeth removed by force by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, Pinkie Ponk, you are part of the cyclist problem, possibly without knowing it. In your posts here, you have suggested that only men are bothered by pushbike riders by saying it&#8217;s about testicles in overdrive (weak and, basically, a dull argument), you wave away the damaging of someone&#8217;s property by saying (But cyclists aren’t the only ones to hit and run, it’s a dud argument&#8217;) as though pushbike riders should be allowed to take some kind of revenge for their fallen comrades. The cars that hit and run can (and should) be pursued by the law because they can be identified. The idiot who was hanging on to the rear wing of my WRX who nearly ripped it off because I was accelerating is not identifiable. He would be rather less identifiable if I hadn&#8217;t seen him and got off the gas.</p>
<p>You then justify pushbike riders taking to the footpath (illegally) to dodge lights, if they take to the footpath at all. The operative word is illegal. They shouldn&#8217;t do it. Why is it ok?</p>
<p>This is one of my favourites:</p>
<p>&#8216;You seem to have blotted out the hit and runs on cyclists that cars do, even some deaths. But the horror that your bumper was scratched, diddums.&#8217;</p>
<p>Okay, well, if you feel that way, may I have your details so that I may sneak around to your home one evening and bend a wheel? Perhaps, daub some battery acid on your front door? After all, cyclists have killed on occasion so a pedestrian like me bending your wheel, well, diddums. Oh, no hang on, that would be wrong of me.</p>
<p>You also seem to be missing basic physics. In many, not all, instances, pushing to the front at lights is simply endangering oneself unless there is a safe bike path. It&#8217;s not &#8216;green&#8217; to hold up traffic by tootling along in the middle of a lane where cars are. It is also not green to ignore bike lanes when they are provided. If you don&#8217;t use them, they should be taken away&#8230;no? I&#8217;m not saying riders shouldn&#8217;t push to the front, I&#8217;m saying they should be sensible about it. See, sensible? Not &#8216;get off the road&#8217; but &#8216;sensible.&#8217; There are ways and means.</p>
<p>So what you&#8217;re saying is, pushbike riders are allowed to break the law because their life is in danger doing what they do but drivers should temper their jealousy? You take an interesting line. My line is that pushbikes should and could have dedicated cycleways and obey the road rules when riding in company with cars. Cars are big, steel and glass and they can hurt you if you&#8217;re not being careful. They can also hurt you if the driver is being careful. More cyclists need to be aware that bad things can happen to them if they are not watchful. If you were to take your own advice, why are you pushing to the front? Why are you so insistent in being in the middle of motorised traffic?</p>
<p>You show a complete lack of respect for others in your posts and have said little that is even mildly constructive. If your attitude hasn&#8217;t already garnered negative comment from other road users, I would be astounded. Remind me to stay away from you because you seem to think it&#8217;s okay to be closed-minded and militant about your rights, but discriminate against the rights of others to not have to pay for damage on the basis of how they transport themselves is bigotry of the highest order. You have an immature outlook and no doubt have a number of other blind bigotries to add to the impressive collection you have displayed here. I wish you good luck in your endeavours because I reckon if I had a mouth like yours, I&#8217;d have had my teeth removed by force by now.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkie ponk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinkie ponk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no patience is not your virtue. it&#039;s a cultural thing. we are an aggressive, self-important, and inconsiderate bunch behind the wheel. shame, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no patience is not your virtue. it&#8217;s a cultural thing. we are an aggressive, self-important, and inconsiderate bunch behind the wheel. shame, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>klaus Says: 
October 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pm 
Klaus Ummm utter B.S. Roads were made to allow traffic to flow from one place to another without just trampling through your backyard. 
As for my licence and registration and so forth, Well my two cars are fully registered sitting in the garage whilst I&#039;m on my bike, I have my license on me at all times and where my group try to ride is away from major NARROW thoroughfares. But we still get abuse and things thrown at us. Like I said, if we had license plates an dpaid rego etc, you really don&#039;t expect me to believe someone meking the BS comments you just made would actually change your attitude, sit back and wait to get around us??? Sorry I live in the real world, your cooments make me believe you are part of the percentile of drivers that become near neanderthalic with their attitude that everyone else besides car drivers (and preferably not P platers or people over 60) should get the hell off YOUR road!!!!!!! Sorry bud but bikes are still selling more than cars, and when your kids start comming home from school relating some of these stories about cars comming close to hitting them, I&#039;d love to see you response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>klaus Says:<br />
October 21st, 2008 at 1:01 pm<br />
Klaus Ummm utter B.S. Roads were made to allow traffic to flow from one place to another without just trampling through your backyard.<br />
As for my licence and registration and so forth, Well my two cars are fully registered sitting in the garage whilst I&#8217;m on my bike, I have my license on me at all times and where my group try to ride is away from major NARROW thoroughfares. But we still get abuse and things thrown at us. Like I said, if we had license plates an dpaid rego etc, you really don&#8217;t expect me to believe someone meking the BS comments you just made would actually change your attitude, sit back and wait to get around us??? Sorry I live in the real world, your cooments make me believe you are part of the percentile of drivers that become near neanderthalic with their attitude that everyone else besides car drivers (and preferably not P platers or people over 60) should get the hell off YOUR road!!!!!!! Sorry bud but bikes are still selling more than cars, and when your kids start comming home from school relating some of these stories about cars comming close to hitting them, I&#8217;d love to see you response.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkie ponk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinkie ponk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>me King, you get out of my way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me King, you get out of my way!</p>
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