I took issue with Pinkie’s aggression towards others, something you are condemning.

Play the ball and not the man.

I do ride a bicycle (oops, burst your bubble), I also ride a motorbike and drive a car. I didn’t actually call anyone a moron who doesn’t behave moronically – such as someone riding down a street at night without their lights on. How is that not moronic? What a delicate little petal you are if you think that isn’t a ridiculous way to ride.

If what I do is paternalistic aggression (have you not got past first year psychology yet?) then society needs a complete re-think on what it is. Your aggression is marvellously off-beam. Keep that up, I need a laugh once in a while.

Paternalistic aggression…next I’ll be blaming my mother.

You then justify pushbike riders taking to the footpath (illegally) to dodge lights, if they take to the footpath at all. The operative word is illegal. They shouldn’t do it. Why is it ok?

This is one of my favourites:

‘You seem to have blotted out the hit and runs on cyclists that cars do, even some deaths. But the horror that your bumper was scratched, diddums.’

Okay, well, if you feel that way, may I have your details so that I may sneak around to your home one evening and bend a wheel? Perhaps, daub some battery acid on your front door? After all, cyclists have killed on occasion so a pedestrian like me bending your wheel, well, diddums. Oh, no hang on, that would be wrong of me.

You also seem to be missing basic physics. In many, not all, instances, pushing to the front at lights is simply endangering oneself unless there is a safe bike path. It’s not ‘green’ to hold up traffic by tootling along in the middle of a lane where cars are. It is also not green to ignore bike lanes when they are provided. If you don’t use them, they should be taken away…no? I’m not saying riders shouldn’t push to the front, I’m saying they should be sensible about it. See, sensible? Not ‘get off the road’ but ’sensible.’ There are ways and means.

So what you’re saying is, pushbike riders are allowed to break the law because their life is in danger doing what they do but drivers should temper their jealousy? You take an interesting line. My line is that pushbikes should and could have dedicated cycleways and obey the road rules when riding in company with cars. Cars are big, steel and glass and they can hurt you if you’re not being careful. They can also hurt you if the driver is being careful. More cyclists need to be aware that bad things can happen to them if they are not watchful. If you were to take your own advice, why are you pushing to the front? Why are you so insistent in being in the middle of motorised traffic?

You show a complete lack of respect for others in your posts and have said little that is even mildly constructive. If your attitude hasn’t already garnered negative comment from other road users, I would be astounded. Remind me to stay away from you because you seem to think it’s okay to be closed-minded and militant about your rights, but discriminate against the rights of others to not have to pay for damage on the basis of how they transport themselves is bigotry of the highest order. You have an immature outlook and no doubt have a number of other blind bigotries to add to the impressive collection you have displayed here. I wish you good luck in your endeavours because I reckon if I had a mouth like yours, I’d have had my teeth removed by force by now.

The roads were built and designed for motor vehicles to use under strict rules, not for pushbike clubs to take over when the feel like it.

You don’t have the god dam given right to hold up traffic, congregate at intersections and block lanes on mass as you always seem to do.

You have the right to use the roads the way you want, you always say!

I say to you rubbish,… show me your rego, show me you licence where is your number plate. you have no more right to be there as do do skate board riders, horses clubs and joggers .

You people and riders who arrange these outings are a menace to vehicles on our roads and impede road users from lawfully travelling safely. You put yourself and others at risk, often cause confusion and unecessarily hold up other road users from going about their business.

Let’s face it we would not be having this conversation if it was not for the way these clubs go about distrupting the traffic flow.

Your behaviour on these bikes often cause drivers to come in conflict with your outings. It is you lot who make it unsafe not the motor vehicles. Patience I find is not the vertue of our modern city drivers for many reasons. Bike riders blocking traffic flow enrages people and has disastorous consequences for bike riders.

Sometimes, I am sure you don’t get it. Buses, cars, trucks vans suv’s are bigger than you and belong on our roads. You don’t. You will always come of second best and thats a good reason you should not ride two /three abreast on a single laned road as you are seen to do.

How often do you see many vehicles banked up behind these groups with the riders oblivious to the distruption they are causing behind them.

Often they just don’t care and hide behind the safety in numbers attitude. This is just downright arrogant and stupid.

Take you Sunday bike hikes off our metro roads.

To all of you single biker riders who dice with the metro traffic during the week. Good luck with that.

The roads are only going to get more congested with more pressure to get out your cars and onto other forms of transport. We have to be considerate to others, you won’t get where your going any faster.

Try cycling in France, you’ll get way more respect from drivers there, they do not seem to mind hanging around until its safe to clear. Its all about respect.

it’s hard to imagine a bike making a pot hole or catching fire and melting the tarmac…

oh and yes i have and ride 3 bikes and an old 4×4

Quite simply I think wherever possible they should be kept off the road, even if it means being on footpaths. On highways, well there’s (usually) enough room there for cars to get around. Having said that there’s no way I’d go cycling down the highway. It’s dangerous enough to have to pull over on the shoulder sometimes, imagine riding along it for hours.

I don’t think cyclists should be banned from the road or anything, just be allowed to get off the road when possible. The reality is, whether people like it or not, they simply don’t belong on a road.

^Pinkie, I had a scratch removed from my rear bumper recently (not courtesy of a cyclist admittedly but a scratch nonetheless right through the paint) and it cost $200 to fix so I’m with MB on this. Scuffs & scrapes are a pain in the a*se let alone the extra #&&%#!! in MBs case as the cyclist had no ID and just rode off. I’m a car lover here so as I said, cyclists have a little right to the road, that little bit on the side. Please stay in it.