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	<title>Comments on: 2008 Volkswagen R50 offroad review</title>
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		<title>By: Darcy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-142996</link>
		<dc:creator>Darcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am lucky enough to be ordering one of these...   Having driven an R50 in Saudi, I fell in love with it...   I have just recently done an order for a client and went through the AUDI, MERC &amp; BMW range, when asked what I wanted as a company vehicle without even blinking an eye, I blurted R50, I can&#039;t wait!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am lucky enough to be ordering one of these&#8230;   Having driven an R50 in Saudi, I fell in love with it&#8230;   I have just recently done an order for a client and went through the AUDI, MERC &amp; BMW range, when asked what I wanted as a company vehicle without even blinking an eye, I blurted R50, I can&#8217;t wait!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-102487</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the V6 TDI engined model, and have done sections of the Mundaring Power Line track. The higher profile tyres (and less bling) are better suited to the environment.
A great car overall, that is by no means a softroader. It has a centre diff, hill-hold, hill descent control, and the all terrain technology. A solid, classy German 4WD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the V6 TDI engined model, and have done sections of the Mundaring Power Line track. The higher profile tyres (and less bling) are better suited to the environment.<br />
A great car overall, that is by no means a softroader. It has a centre diff, hill-hold, hill descent control, and the all terrain technology. A solid, classy German 4WD.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Peskett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Peskett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, and others: You are correct. The R50 does have a hill-descent feature, and hill-hold. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, and others: You are correct. The R50 does have a hill-descent feature, and hill-hold. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101816</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello there, you mention no hill descent, mine has and its not listed anywhere in the options, so i cant see how yours didn&#039;t. Have you used the hill descent in other T&#039;regs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there, you mention no hill descent, mine has and its not listed anywhere in the options, so i cant see how yours didn&#8217;t. Have you used the hill descent in other T&#8217;regs?</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt aka No Name</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101814</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt aka No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article CA. I&#039;m jealous we haven&#039;t got anywhere to take off roaders like that. Just goes to prove even a decent softoff roader can do the same as a &quot;proper&quot; 4x4. However I do think the R50 is a bit &quot;bling&quot; I rather stick to the less pretentiuos version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article CA. I&#8217;m jealous we haven&#8217;t got anywhere to take off roaders like that. Just goes to prove even a decent softoff roader can do the same as a &#8220;proper&#8221; 4&#215;4. However I do think the R50 is a bit &#8220;bling&#8221; I rather stick to the less pretentiuos version.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101793</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut Says: 
November 10th, 2008 at 8:15 pm 
&quot;Landcruisers Touaregs and Patrols and the like are all aimed at image conscious “Pajeros” who would be lucky to travel 100Km from the GPO&quot;

Don&#039;t lower yourself to Andrew M&#039;s level of intelligence mate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut Says:<br />
November 10th, 2008 at 8:15 pm<br />
&#8220;Landcruisers Touaregs and Patrols and the like are all aimed at image conscious “Pajeros” who would be lucky to travel 100Km from the GPO&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lower yourself to Andrew M&#8217;s level of intelligence mate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101788</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting review. I have a TDV6. It has excellent Hill descent. On page three the article says the R50 doesn&#039;t have hill descent. 

&quot;Without a hill-descent feature, it was left to careful pedal pressure to regulate our downwards descents. Left foot braking is also handy, as sometimes you’ll need to hold the car in position while adding a touch of accelerator, to (very) slowly creep up the hills. &quot;

I&#039;d be very surprised if this feature had been removed. I suspect the author didn&#039;t know that if you stop, put it into first gear, and then release the break the Touareg will do an excellent job of creeping down a slippery slope with all four wheels using the ABS as necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting review. I have a TDV6. It has excellent Hill descent. On page three the article says the R50 doesn&#8217;t have hill descent. </p>
<p>&#8220;Without a hill-descent feature, it was left to careful pedal pressure to regulate our downwards descents. Left foot braking is also handy, as sometimes you’ll need to hold the car in position while adding a touch of accelerator, to (very) slowly creep up the hills. &#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be very surprised if this feature had been removed. I suspect the author didn&#8217;t know that if you stop, put it into first gear, and then release the break the Touareg will do an excellent job of creeping down a slippery slope with all four wheels using the ABS as necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101714</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut, thats one stupid comment!

Spam word: LandRover!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut, thats one stupid comment!</p>
<p>Spam word: LandRover!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101661</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want one!</p>
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		<title>By: John of Perth</title>
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		<dc:creator>John of Perth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mundaring Powerline = Western Australia

Haven&#039;t tried in the Nissan X-trail yet !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mundaring Powerline = Western Australia</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t tried in the Nissan X-trail yet !!</p>
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		<title>By: Trav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut you seriously have no idea, you do realise that people have been using patrols cruisers landrovers and range rovers to tour all of this country for a hell of a lot of years, pick up 4wd australia or 4x4 action one day, if you think the landcruisers and patrols etc would be lucky to travel 100km from the &#039;GPO&#039; your in for a very big shock, i&#039;ve also seen competition vehicles based on your average forby that would go places a bowler or bushranger couldn&#039;t dream of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut you seriously have no idea, you do realise that people have been using patrols cruisers landrovers and range rovers to tour all of this country for a hell of a lot of years, pick up 4wd australia or 4&#215;4 action one day, if you think the landcruisers and patrols etc would be lucky to travel 100km from the &#8216;GPO&#8217; your in for a very big shock, i&#8217;ve also seen competition vehicles based on your average forby that would go places a bowler or bushranger couldn&#8217;t dream of</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was in the market for a serious off-roader.. I&#039;d opt for either a Ozi Bushranger or a UK Bowler both of which are bare bone 4x4s based on a Land Rover Defender with V8s and fully adjustable independent suspension.. 

Landcruisers Touaregs and Patrols and the like are all aimed at image conscious &quot;Pajeros&quot; who would be lucky to travel 100Km from the GPO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was in the market for a serious off-roader.. I&#8217;d opt for either a Ozi Bushranger or a UK Bowler both of which are bare bone 4&#215;4s based on a Land Rover Defender with V8s and fully adjustable independent suspension.. </p>
<p>Landcruisers Touaregs and Patrols and the like are all aimed at image conscious &#8220;Pajeros&#8221; who would be lucky to travel 100Km from the GPO</p>
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		<title>By: Neo Utopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo Utopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait for the 2000 kilometre road trip, see how the R50 compares to the competition.  Personally I think the new LandCruiser is uncouth and ugly, however it is probably excellent in the rough stuff so I give praise for that.  This torque tycoon from Wolfsburg is probably 90% as capable as the LandCruiser (or anything else of equivalency) in the rough stuff but more than 50% more capable on the asphalt and 99.9% better looking.  

As for the price, I agree with VW Freak, people who can afford this piece of machinery should be able to afford to actually use the thing for its intended use, if they don&#039;t then they should do the commonsense thing and purchase a Passat R36!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the 2000 kilometre road trip, see how the R50 compares to the competition.  Personally I think the new LandCruiser is uncouth and ugly, however it is probably excellent in the rough stuff so I give praise for that.  This torque tycoon from Wolfsburg is probably 90% as capable as the LandCruiser (or anything else of equivalency) in the rough stuff but more than 50% more capable on the asphalt and 99.9% better looking.  </p>
<p>As for the price, I agree with VW Freak, people who can afford this piece of machinery should be able to afford to actually use the thing for its intended use, if they don&#8217;t then they should do the commonsense thing and purchase a Passat R36!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the final pic. 

And having been in the std. V10 towing a car, the engine is other worldly, didn&#039;t know there was over a tonne behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the final pic. </p>
<p>And having been in the std. V10 towing a car, the engine is other worldly, didn&#8217;t know there was over a tonne behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut, fair enough, on this occasion you weren&#039;t the first one to mention the toyota, but your comment still revolved around one... Anyway, i agree with you, I personally woudn&#039;t get a LC200 either. It&#039;s fuel tank is too small, and it&#039;s too heavy, which means you are seriously restricted if you wanna add some accessories and keep it on a legal weight...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut, fair enough, on this occasion you weren&#8217;t the first one to mention the toyota, but your comment still revolved around one&#8230; Anyway, i agree with you, I personally woudn&#8217;t get a LC200 either. It&#8217;s fuel tank is too small, and it&#8217;s too heavy, which means you are seriously restricted if you wanna add some accessories and keep it on a legal weight&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec Says: 
November 10th, 2008 at 2:59 pm 
&quot;Don’t like the 200 at all. Too big, too plastic, too heavy and way too pricey. I think Toyota has lost it with this model….. Although the market is still snapping them up!&quot;

Definitely too pricey, between models it&#039;s gone up over $10K!

&quot;Am now looking at a second hand 100, especially with used values dropping quicker than ever before.&quot;

Excellent choice - you could get a 3 year old Sahara for around $55K these days with the works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec Says:<br />
November 10th, 2008 at 2:59 pm<br />
&#8220;Don’t like the 200 at all. Too big, too plastic, too heavy and way too pricey. I think Toyota has lost it with this model….. Although the market is still snapping them up!&#8221;</p>
<p>Definitely too pricey, between models it&#8217;s gone up over $10K!</p>
<p>&#8220;Am now looking at a second hand 100, especially with used values dropping quicker than ever before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent choice &#8211; you could get a 3 year old Sahara for around $55K these days with the works.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex Says: 
November 10th, 2008 at 12:30 pm 
&quot;The RR is better on road, better off road, more tastefull and more un-noticed. All good things when you’re spending that much.&quot;

The RR is one sexy looking car... until you sit inside it. They need to employ a german interior designer...


Wheelnut Says: 
November 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pm 
&quot;I’m not saying this is a bad thing - its just highlighting the fact that there are a few Toyowners who are capable of admitting that Toyotas build quality isn’t as good as they make out to be&quot;

Wheelnut, the problems my colleagues have faced are more to do with the increased electronic aids that have been introduced, and also the auto gearbox (which won&#039;t stay in 6th!). Build qulaity hasn&#039;t been really an issue at all.

I&#039;d take a 70 series over a 200 series for true offroading anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Says:<br />
November 10th, 2008 at 12:30 pm<br />
&#8220;The RR is better on road, better off road, more tastefull and more un-noticed. All good things when you’re spending that much.&#8221;</p>
<p>The RR is one sexy looking car&#8230; until you sit inside it. They need to employ a german interior designer&#8230;</p>
<p>Wheelnut Says:<br />
November 10th, 2008 at 2:32 pm<br />
&#8220;I’m not saying this is a bad thing &#8211; its just highlighting the fact that there are a few Toyowners who are capable of admitting that Toyotas build quality isn’t as good as they make out to be&#8221;</p>
<p>Wheelnut, the problems my colleagues have faced are more to do with the increased electronic aids that have been introduced, and also the auto gearbox (which won&#8217;t stay in 6th!). Build qulaity hasn&#8217;t been really an issue at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d take a 70 series over a 200 series for true offroading anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to own a Land Cruiser, and loved it.
Fuel economy was rediculous though.

Don&#039;t like the 200 at all. Too big, too plastic, too heavy and way too pricey. I think Toyota has lost it with this model..... Although the market is still snapping them up!

Am now looking at a second hand 100, especially with used values dropping quicker than ever before.

I like the Toureg, great interior, awesome front seats although pretty tight in the rear. Solid understated styling. Class</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to own a Land Cruiser, and loved it.<br />
Fuel economy was rediculous though.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t like the 200 at all. Too big, too plastic, too heavy and way too pricey. I think Toyota has lost it with this model&#8230;.. Although the market is still snapping them up!</p>
<p>Am now looking at a second hand 100, especially with used values dropping quicker than ever before.</p>
<p>I like the Toureg, great interior, awesome front seats although pretty tight in the rear. Solid understated styling. Class</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - Tomas79 you&#039;ll notice that I wasn&#039;t the first one to mention Toyota

I merely responded to other bloggers comments [including yours] by referring to a blog where Toyowners are having problems with their Crusisers

Whilst the Cruiser is by no means &quot;CRAP&quot;.. its not as good as it used to be.. That is a couple of years ago the buying a Landcruiser was a no-brainer for those wanting a Full Size 4x4 [just as it was with the Corolla]. 

However; [just as it is with the Corolla] Toyota have sat on their laurels whilst other 4x4 manufacturers which were once never really thought f as a rival to the Landcruiser are now producing cars of equal if not better quality.. thereby making it a much harder decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; Tomas79 you&#8217;ll notice that I wasn&#8217;t the first one to mention Toyota</p>
<p>I merely responded to other bloggers comments [including yours] by referring to a blog where Toyowners are having problems with their Crusisers</p>
<p>Whilst the Cruiser is by no means &#8220;CRAP&#8221;.. its not as good as it used to be.. That is a couple of years ago the buying a Landcruiser was a no-brainer for those wanting a Full Size 4&#215;4 [just as it was with the Corolla]. </p>
<p>However; [just as it is with the Corolla] Toyota have sat on their laurels whilst other 4&#215;4 manufacturers which were once never really thought f as a rival to the Landcruiser are now producing cars of equal if not better quality.. thereby making it a much harder decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17763/2008-volkswagon-r50-offroad-review/comment-page-1/#comment-101591</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch Says: 
November 10th, 2008 at 9:02 am 
&quot;Is this near MT buller in Vic?&quot;

From what I can work out all the other numberplates are from WA. I&#039;d say it&#039;s Mundaring in the Perth hills and the service station pic looks like the BP servo in Midland on Gt Eastern Hwy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch Says:<br />
November 10th, 2008 at 9:02 am<br />
&#8220;Is this near MT buller in Vic?&#8221;</p>
<p>From what I can work out all the other numberplates are from WA. I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s Mundaring in the Perth hills and the service station pic looks like the BP servo in Midland on Gt Eastern Hwy.</p>
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