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		<title>By: Wayne Gerdes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Gerdes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All:

Congrats to both Andrew and Gary as they proved to be worthy drivers no matter what the detractors say!
 
Good Luck

Wayne Gerdes – Owner/ Admin www.CleanMPG.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All:</p>
<p>Congrats to both Andrew and Gary as they proved to be worthy drivers no matter what the detractors say!</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
<p>Wayne Gerdes – Owner/ Admin <a href="http://www.CleanMPG.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.CleanMPG.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Prius was supposed to save the planet!?!

Just shows the Prius should be renamed the Useless.

Did Toyota just inadvertantly shoot themselves in the foot??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Prius was supposed to save the planet!?!</p>
<p>Just shows the Prius should be renamed the Useless.</p>
<p>Did Toyota just inadvertantly shoot themselves in the foot??</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably get an i30 diesel for less as well given Toyota inventive pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably get an i30 diesel for less as well given Toyota inventive pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you go along gently in my falcon, it reports 3L/100k, but who wants to prod along like that all day.

the time in dollars lost in productivity in you taking longer to get where you had to be would far out weigh the fuel cost saved in putting along like a pansy.

it is also illegal to drive in this manner.
they would have had to have permission to drive in this manner hance all the safety signage and i assume escort vehicles too.

line them all up and heading off on the same route at the same time doing the speed limit would have more value than the way this was performed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you go along gently in my falcon, it reports 3L/100k, but who wants to prod along like that all day.</p>
<p>the time in dollars lost in productivity in you taking longer to get where you had to be would far out weigh the fuel cost saved in putting along like a pansy.</p>
<p>it is also illegal to drive in this manner.<br />
they would have had to have permission to drive in this manner hance all the safety signage and i assume escort vehicles too.</p>
<p>line them all up and heading off on the same route at the same time doing the speed limit would have more value than the way this was performed</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW the big T has won a race,see heres the formula,Boring race big T wins,exciting race(F1)big T can&#039;t win,can&#039;t win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW the big T has won a race,see heres the formula,Boring race big T wins,exciting race(F1)big T can&#8217;t win,can&#8217;t win</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G6ETURBO....Your welcome, if your friend wants real economy in that size she might have to try a small diesel like a VW Polo,Peugeot 207,Citroen C3 or for a slightly larger but more frugal than a Prius maybe a Hyundai i30 diesel, But if she must have petrol a Mazda 2 or new 2009 Ford fiesta will kick some Yaris butt!!

Cheers and Good luck!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G6ETURBO&#8230;.Your welcome, if your friend wants real economy in that size she might have to try a small diesel like a VW Polo,Peugeot 207,Citroen C3 or for a slightly larger but more frugal than a Prius maybe a Hyundai i30 diesel, But if she must have petrol a Mazda 2 or new 2009 Ford fiesta will kick some Yaris butt!!</p>
<p>Cheers and Good luck!!</p>
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		<title>By: AC COBRA</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17645/toyota-wins-economy-marathon/#comment-97568</link>
		<dc:creator>AC COBRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also CA, who was the competition, where are the other car&#039;s tested, this just another sponser stint for the overrated whitegood&#039;s, cardigan wearing community, ugly Toyo sux........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also CA, who was the competition, where are the other car&#8217;s tested, this just another sponser stint for the overrated whitegood&#8217;s, cardigan wearing community, ugly Toyo sux&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: AC COBRA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC COBRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyoda sux, too many unnecessary adverts CA,  there are better economy cars out there in the real world, its just Toyoda test by themselfs with no competition, very sad indeed,,,  Toyo sux...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyoda sux, too many unnecessary adverts CA,  there are better economy cars out there in the real world, its just Toyoda test by themselfs with no competition, very sad indeed,,,  Toyo sux&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Wispy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wispy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t see hirdy or loydy from the might bombers driving a yaris even if it was black and red go the MIGHT BOMERS 2009!!!111</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t see hirdy or loydy from the might bombers driving a yaris even if it was black and red go the MIGHT BOMERS 2009!!!111</p>
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		<title>By: Frontman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frontman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would like to have seen how the Econetic Ford diseasels would have gone, have tried to find out what else was in the competition but can&#039;t find a full list anywhere. Notice though the the all conquering Prius didn&#039;t win :-)

The only vehicles I can find mention to in this challenge have been the above Toyota&#039;s and a Berlingo??? Sounds fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would like to have seen how the Econetic Ford diseasels would have gone, have tried to find out what else was in the competition but can&#8217;t find a full list anywhere. Notice though the the all conquering Prius didn&#8217;t win :-)</p>
<p>The only vehicles I can find mention to in this challenge have been the above Toyota&#8217;s and a Berlingo??? Sounds fair.</p>
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		<title>By: G6ETURBO</title>
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		<dc:creator>G6ETURBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl Says: 
October 14th, 2008 at 4:25 pm 
G6ETURBO……make sure you ask someone that owns one and that will be honest with you coz the claimed fuel consumption is no where near the real world consumption, my above fuel consumptions were for a 2006 yrs 1.5 auto 5 door and i got rid of it because the Toyota’s claim was 6.7 litres combined and the ride and seats are awfully hard!! Also it started getting a loud and annoying squeak in the air/heater blower and i don’t even want to think how bad the Thailand Toyota’s are going to be for build quality coz mine was still a Jap built one! 


Thanks Carl.. I&#039;ll give her those figures as a worst case scenario and -1L/100km for the 1.3L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Says:<br />
October 14th, 2008 at 4:25 pm<br />
G6ETURBO……make sure you ask someone that owns one and that will be honest with you coz the claimed fuel consumption is no where near the real world consumption, my above fuel consumptions were for a 2006 yrs 1.5 auto 5 door and i got rid of it because the Toyota’s claim was 6.7 litres combined and the ride and seats are awfully hard!! Also it started getting a loud and annoying squeak in the air/heater blower and i don’t even want to think how bad the Thailand Toyota’s are going to be for build quality coz mine was still a Jap built one! </p>
<p>Thanks Carl.. I&#8217;ll give her those figures as a worst case scenario and -1L/100km for the 1.3L.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway the Yaris is a nasty/UGLY little puss box. It would want to be economical.LOL.

Only redeeming feature.LOL.

The faux wet suit material on the seat and door trims befits the Yukis moniker.LOL

Speedo in the middle of the dash.

Toyota have outdone themselves with this.LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway the Yaris is a nasty/UGLY little puss box. It would want to be economical.LOL.</p>
<p>Only redeeming feature.LOL.</p>
<p>The faux wet suit material on the seat and door trims befits the Yukis moniker.LOL</p>
<p>Speedo in the middle of the dash.</p>
<p>Toyota have outdone themselves with this.LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danman, Better still i sold the peice of crap and bought a big comfortable car on LPG i&#039;m so happy now, last week drove to melbourne with 4 adults and a 4 year old and spent under 90 litres each way of LPG at 50.9 cents in melbourne and 58,9 in Sydney.....beat that petrol Yaris!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danman, Better still i sold the peice of crap and bought a big comfortable car on LPG i&#8217;m so happy now, last week drove to melbourne with 4 adults and a 4 year old and spent under 90 litres each way of LPG at 50.9 cents in melbourne and 58,9 in Sydney&#8230;..beat that petrol Yaris!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DabMan, this is NOT real world driving, it is an economy competition, run over real roads. But these drivers are driving to get max milage not to actually get anywhere within a reasonable timeframe.

Wispy, I did read what Richard Balshaw said: he mentioned both petrol AND deisel, but the two cars on the main body oft the story are both stated as being petrol, and both winning. Clearly there is a error somewhere in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DabMan, this is NOT real world driving, it is an economy competition, run over real roads. But these drivers are driving to get max milage not to actually get anywhere within a reasonable timeframe.</p>
<p>Wispy, I did read what Richard Balshaw said: he mentioned both petrol AND deisel, but the two cars on the main body oft the story are both stated as being petrol, and both winning. Clearly there is a error somewhere in there.</p>
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		<title>By: realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to know who the competition was.</description>
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		<title>By: Wispy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wispy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret didnt you read what james brayshaw from toyoda said it is the petrol mode and he also sai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret didnt you read what james brayshaw from toyoda said it is the petrol mode and he also sai</p>
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl

get it fixed under warranty..
Seats depend on your size not theirs...
Fuel economy is dependent upon where you live and the way you drive..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl</p>
<p>get it fixed under warranty..<br />
Seats depend on your size not theirs&#8230;<br />
Fuel economy is dependent upon where you live and the way you drive..</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G6ETURBO......make sure you ask someone that owns one and that will be honest with you coz the claimed fuel consumption is no where near the real world consumption, my above fuel consumptions were for a 2006 yrs 1.5 auto 5 door and i got rid of it because the Toyota&#039;s claim was 6.7 litres combined and the ride and seats are awfully hard!! Also it started getting a loud and annoying squeak in the air/heater blower and i don&#039;t even want to think how bad the Thailand Toyota&#039;s are going to be for build quality coz mine was still a Jap built one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G6ETURBO&#8230;&#8230;make sure you ask someone that owns one and that will be honest with you coz the claimed fuel consumption is no where near the real world consumption, my above fuel consumptions were for a 2006 yrs 1.5 auto 5 door and i got rid of it because the Toyota&#8217;s claim was 6.7 litres combined and the ride and seats are awfully hard!! Also it started getting a loud and annoying squeak in the air/heater blower and i don&#8217;t even want to think how bad the Thailand Toyota&#8217;s are going to be for build quality coz mine was still a Jap built one!</p>
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		<title>By: G6ETURBO</title>
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		<dc:creator>G6ETURBO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s the difference in economy between the 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5l engines in this car? I have a friend looking to buy a similar car and is intrested to know if it&#039;s dollar a day or a week?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the difference in economy between the 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5l engines in this car? I have a friend looking to buy a similar car and is intrested to know if it&#8217;s dollar a day or a week?</p>
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		<title>By: si1982</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon for the next yaris, Toyota should introduce a 1.4L petrol with the performace of a 1.5L and economy of a 1.3L engine or better please! Also a stop start system would definitely get a lot more people interested in getting this lil buzzbox!
This is a good car, for the purpose they are built for. I know someone on these forums is going to compare some bigger car with their Nürburgring laptime and some horsepower addict is gonna get their kick by comparing it with some massive v8 and their highway fuel economy, but if someone were to compare apples with apples this car is definitely worth considering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon for the next yaris, Toyota should introduce a 1.4L petrol with the performace of a 1.5L and economy of a 1.3L engine or better please! Also a stop start system would definitely get a lot more people interested in getting this lil buzzbox!<br />
This is a good car, for the purpose they are built for. I know someone on these forums is going to compare some bigger car with their Nürburgring laptime and some horsepower addict is gonna get their kick by comparing it with some massive v8 and their highway fuel economy, but if someone were to compare apples with apples this car is definitely worth considering.</p>
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