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		<title>By: wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>top gear is the best show ive ever seen in my life yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr from wwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>top gear is the best show ive ever seen in my life yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr from wwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee</p>
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		<title>By: Jayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve gone back and re-watched Series One from TGUK... Even they got off to a lack-lustre start. I&#039;ll keep watching in the short-term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve gone back and re-watched Series One from TGUK&#8230; Even they got off to a lack-lustre start. I&#8217;ll keep watching in the short-term.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this discussion goes to prove that the potential exists in this country for a fair dinkum, no holds barred motoring show for enthusiasts.
I think you would all agree that such a show is overdue.
The problem is that TGA with its current pretender&#039;s format and hopelessly overblown hosts just, doesn&#039;t cut it.
I am curious enough to continue watching to see if can get any worse however I&#039;m certain that I will be constantly preying that Piss-ant pisses off ASAP and Cox cripples himself with his own ego.
If Brown was given a new team he might eventually measure up providing he TRIES TO BE BROWN and nobody else.
The real big winner out of this disgraceful farce is the so-called SBS &quot;Talent Scout&quot; who pocketed big bucks for selecting such an inept team in the first place.
The sponsors (advertisers) of the show should be concerned about having their products (cars) tainted by the low-brow image that the presenters seem intent on projecting.
It&#039;s all too crass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this discussion goes to prove that the potential exists in this country for a fair dinkum, no holds barred motoring show for enthusiasts.<br />
I think you would all agree that such a show is overdue.<br />
The problem is that TGA with its current pretender&#8217;s format and hopelessly overblown hosts just, doesn&#8217;t cut it.<br />
I am curious enough to continue watching to see if can get any worse however I&#8217;m certain that I will be constantly preying that Piss-ant pisses off ASAP and Cox cripples himself with his own ego.<br />
If Brown was given a new team he might eventually measure up providing he TRIES TO BE BROWN and nobody else.<br />
The real big winner out of this disgraceful farce is the so-called SBS &#8220;Talent Scout&#8221; who pocketed big bucks for selecting such an inept team in the first place.<br />
The sponsors (advertisers) of the show should be concerned about having their products (cars) tainted by the low-brow image that the presenters seem intent on projecting.<br />
It&#8217;s all too crass</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/17257/tga-ratings-hit-a-bump-in-the-road/#comment-96382</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robj -  I agree with you that Rachel Splatt would make a good replacement Host for Cox ... However; 
F3 Championship Leader - Leanne Tander; 
Former Brute Ute Racer - Danielle A&#039;giro or even    Production Car Racer - Amber Anderson 
would know a helluva lot more about cars than Lowndes&#039; Wife.. all she would be able to say is &quot;it has very comfy interior and comes in Pink [hehehe]&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robj &#8211;  I agree with you that Rachel Splatt would make a good replacement Host for Cox &#8230; However;<br />
F3 Championship Leader &#8211; Leanne Tander;<br />
Former Brute Ute Racer &#8211; Danielle A&#8217;giro or even    Production Car Racer &#8211; Amber Anderson<br />
would know a helluva lot more about cars than Lowndes&#8217; Wife.. all she would be able to say is &#8220;it has very comfy interior and comes in Pink [hehehe]&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: BFG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BFG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the first two episodes of TGA I can honestly say I would prefer to watch Fifth Gear with Vicki, Tom and Tiff, at least they tell you if the car is good or bad. The first episode comparison told me nothing about the the Forester, RAV4, and Xtrail, who are they trying to please, the car manufactures or the motoring public?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the first two episodes of TGA I can honestly say I would prefer to watch Fifth Gear with Vicki, Tom and Tiff, at least they tell you if the car is good or bad. The first episode comparison told me nothing about the the Forester, RAV4, and Xtrail, who are they trying to please, the car manufactures or the motoring public?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whinge whinge whinge!

its only been two episodes, please everyone give it a chance, im sure they will come along sooner rather than later! yes the show needs to be polished up, yes they arent entirely comfortable (imo) as presenters, but remember sbs has gone for people who have proper driving experience and enthusiasm rather than the journo type who merely reads cue cards...the 2nd episode was a big improvement over the 1st and i feel it will get better as time goes on...

it seems to me that alot of people bashing have a reeeal bad case of cultural cringe!

If rubbish like kath and kim can some how survive, nay excel (i cant stand that show for the record), the TGA can...you just have to give it a chance, Australia needs a proper car show and this could be it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whinge whinge whinge!</p>
<p>its only been two episodes, please everyone give it a chance, im sure they will come along sooner rather than later! yes the show needs to be polished up, yes they arent entirely comfortable (imo) as presenters, but remember sbs has gone for people who have proper driving experience and enthusiasm rather than the journo type who merely reads cue cards&#8230;the 2nd episode was a big improvement over the 1st and i feel it will get better as time goes on&#8230;</p>
<p>it seems to me that alot of people bashing have a reeeal bad case of cultural cringe!</p>
<p>If rubbish like kath and kim can some how survive, nay excel (i cant stand that show for the record), the TGA can&#8230;you just have to give it a chance, Australia needs a proper car show and this could be it!</p>
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		<title>By: Yianni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Falcon and Commodore comparison was pathetic.

The tests weren&#039;t even accurate which is pretty sad. The Commodore had a 1/2 second start doing the 1/4 mile in which they didnt even mention.

They didn&#039;t even give us any proper specs like power/torque/weight or anything technical or even price for that matter.

Also whats up with not taking the Commodore around for a lap to compare it to the Falcon?

The only thing they could do was half a** attempts at burnouts.

They have the right cars but simply don&#039;t know what to do with them.

And lets not even go in to the SMART and coffin thingy. That was really pathetic and in bad taste.

Pretty bad so far. Hopefully it will improve or else it will definitely get the flick.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Falcon and Commodore comparison was pathetic.</p>
<p>The tests weren&#8217;t even accurate which is pretty sad. The Commodore had a 1/2 second start doing the 1/4 mile in which they didnt even mention.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t even give us any proper specs like power/torque/weight or anything technical or even price for that matter.</p>
<p>Also whats up with not taking the Commodore around for a lap to compare it to the Falcon?</p>
<p>The only thing they could do was half a** attempts at burnouts.</p>
<p>They have the right cars but simply don&#8217;t know what to do with them.</p>
<p>And lets not even go in to the SMART and coffin thingy. That was really pathetic and in bad taste.</p>
<p>Pretty bad so far. Hopefully it will improve or else it will definitely get the flick.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Holian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Holian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, Australian Top Gear was a good idea - aussies CAN be funny, because if the couldn&#039;t we&#039;d all suicide because our lives are so boring. And we obviously love cars - bazillions of people above this comment felt so compelled about a car show that they wrote an essay on it. Hey, I did too.

Charlie Cox just comes across like a tosser. I don&#039;t know if he is one in real life - I will assume he isn&#039;t - but he reminds me of Dicko, except Cox doesn&#039;t even seem to know what he&#039;s talking about. He even insults his other hosts - probably because he feels the need to emulate Clarkson - but where Clarkson is joking, and quite funny, Cox seems harsh, and quite hurtful. He talks himself up non-stop, and unfortunately, is too stale, emotionless, and lacking in enthusiasm to be strong host. Unless you haven&#039;t worked it out, I think he is the main problem with the show.

Pizzati and Brown, in contrast, have potential. Pizzati may have a, uh... distinctive voice, but when Cox is removed from the equation, he is playful and enjoyable to watch, in a happy-go-lucky, geeky sort of way. When he is talking with Cox, he tries to appear knowledgable, but becomes boring, and his voice becomes more irritable for the viewer. Odd, but it&#039;s true. Oh, and he needs to throw out the &quot;designer&quot; stubble - he grosses out even my girlfriend, and that takes a lot considering she puts up with a fugly person like me.

Brown is doing a better job of keeping me watching TGA. Although he never comes across as being anything but nervous and unsure of what he should say, when he does open his mouth, usually it&#039;s because he&#039;s got an interesting point to make. And at least he&#039;s got a sense of humour that doesn&#039;t pick out all the motoring cliches of the last 50 years (yes, I&#039;m talking about you, Cox!). And I think the cartooning thing makes him a bit unique - a bit like Top Gear itself really: a little bit different, but always very funny.

All the hosts have the same problem - that forced delivery that so many people have commented about on this site. But there is light at the end of the tunnel - the &quot;Smart Hearse&quot; story (that didn&#039;t include Cox), worked rather well, because it had a sense of fun and spontinaety about it.

And I agree with everything others have said about the Top Gear track - it looks really boring, the camera angles don&#039;t give you any sense of what it looks like - and I guess it doesn&#039;t help that Cox is obviously feigning enthusiasm and feeling quite stupid while he&#039;s talking about a lap.

And what&#039;s with calling the Australian driver &quot;The Stig&quot; too? That&#039;s like having an Australian Harry Potter. Why are there two alien like racing drivers called &quot;The Stig&quot; on the planet - don&#039;t even pretend that they&#039;re one and the same person. What do Top Gear want to do with 2 stigs? Breed them? Actually, that could make for quite an interesting adults-only episode. Are the Stigs both men? Do the Stigs even have genitalia?

Oh, and &quot;What were they thinking&quot; when they made that segment? It is no substitute for the cool board. Episode one of this segment showed promise, but episode two was so unfunny I cringed. Why couldn&#039;t they have thought of something funnier, like matching newly released cars with the social-stereotypes that drive them? Come on, I&#039;m no comedian - when SBS spends a million dollars an episode, surely they can come up with something better.

The production of the show itself is very good - you can tell that it&#039;s been handled with care in the editing room. It looks slick, even though the presenters aren&#039;t. Well, yet.

I don&#039;t really have much hope for Cox, but Pizzati and Brown&#039;s styles should develop nicely. They have their own niche personalities that are different from the british TG three - Pizzati is a sort of Gen Y chic geek, and Brown is the honest, man-of-reason with a cartoonist bent sort of person. What a shame Charlie Cox has already tried to brand Warren Brown our James May with his endless comments about the slow nature of his driving. What will he call Warren? &quot;Captain Sluggish?&quot; - Come on boys, average viewers like me can see through these things.

Well, my message is clear - dump Charlie Cox. You do not need someone who knows everything about cars. Even worse, you do not need someone who THINKS they know everything about cars, like Cox.

Top Gear Australia CAN work - it just NEEDS work. They can replace hosts; TG Britain replaced some fat guy with James May ages ago, and haven&#039;t looked back.

The thing is, Top Gear Australia to flourish, and for the hosts to relax into their roles, they need far less pressure on them to perform. I&#039;m obviously not helping here, but if SBS expects millions of viewers, and millions of advertising dollars, it must wait a few years, and let Top Gear, like a swiss cheese, mature.

But the holes in Top Gear Australia&#039;s program shouldn&#039;t be left alone, like in a swiss cheese. They need fixing.

Whoa - the length of this doesn&#039;t make me look like I don&#039;t have a life, now does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, Australian Top Gear was a good idea &#8211; aussies CAN be funny, because if the couldn&#8217;t we&#8217;d all suicide because our lives are so boring. And we obviously love cars &#8211; bazillions of people above this comment felt so compelled about a car show that they wrote an essay on it. Hey, I did too.</p>
<p>Charlie Cox just comes across like a tosser. I don&#8217;t know if he is one in real life &#8211; I will assume he isn&#8217;t &#8211; but he reminds me of Dicko, except Cox doesn&#8217;t even seem to know what he&#8217;s talking about. He even insults his other hosts &#8211; probably because he feels the need to emulate Clarkson &#8211; but where Clarkson is joking, and quite funny, Cox seems harsh, and quite hurtful. He talks himself up non-stop, and unfortunately, is too stale, emotionless, and lacking in enthusiasm to be strong host. Unless you haven&#8217;t worked it out, I think he is the main problem with the show.</p>
<p>Pizzati and Brown, in contrast, have potential. Pizzati may have a, uh&#8230; distinctive voice, but when Cox is removed from the equation, he is playful and enjoyable to watch, in a happy-go-lucky, geeky sort of way. When he is talking with Cox, he tries to appear knowledgable, but becomes boring, and his voice becomes more irritable for the viewer. Odd, but it&#8217;s true. Oh, and he needs to throw out the &#8220;designer&#8221; stubble &#8211; he grosses out even my girlfriend, and that takes a lot considering she puts up with a fugly person like me.</p>
<p>Brown is doing a better job of keeping me watching TGA. Although he never comes across as being anything but nervous and unsure of what he should say, when he does open his mouth, usually it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s got an interesting point to make. And at least he&#8217;s got a sense of humour that doesn&#8217;t pick out all the motoring cliches of the last 50 years (yes, I&#8217;m talking about you, Cox!). And I think the cartooning thing makes him a bit unique &#8211; a bit like Top Gear itself really: a little bit different, but always very funny.</p>
<p>All the hosts have the same problem &#8211; that forced delivery that so many people have commented about on this site. But there is light at the end of the tunnel &#8211; the &#8220;Smart Hearse&#8221; story (that didn&#8217;t include Cox), worked rather well, because it had a sense of fun and spontinaety about it.</p>
<p>And I agree with everything others have said about the Top Gear track &#8211; it looks really boring, the camera angles don&#8217;t give you any sense of what it looks like &#8211; and I guess it doesn&#8217;t help that Cox is obviously feigning enthusiasm and feeling quite stupid while he&#8217;s talking about a lap.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s with calling the Australian driver &#8220;The Stig&#8221; too? That&#8217;s like having an Australian Harry Potter. Why are there two alien like racing drivers called &#8220;The Stig&#8221; on the planet &#8211; don&#8217;t even pretend that they&#8217;re one and the same person. What do Top Gear want to do with 2 stigs? Breed them? Actually, that could make for quite an interesting adults-only episode. Are the Stigs both men? Do the Stigs even have genitalia?</p>
<p>Oh, and &#8220;What were they thinking&#8221; when they made that segment? It is no substitute for the cool board. Episode one of this segment showed promise, but episode two was so unfunny I cringed. Why couldn&#8217;t they have thought of something funnier, like matching newly released cars with the social-stereotypes that drive them? Come on, I&#8217;m no comedian &#8211; when SBS spends a million dollars an episode, surely they can come up with something better.</p>
<p>The production of the show itself is very good &#8211; you can tell that it&#8217;s been handled with care in the editing room. It looks slick, even though the presenters aren&#8217;t. Well, yet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really have much hope for Cox, but Pizzati and Brown&#8217;s styles should develop nicely. They have their own niche personalities that are different from the british TG three &#8211; Pizzati is a sort of Gen Y chic geek, and Brown is the honest, man-of-reason with a cartoonist bent sort of person. What a shame Charlie Cox has already tried to brand Warren Brown our James May with his endless comments about the slow nature of his driving. What will he call Warren? &#8220;Captain Sluggish?&#8221; &#8211; Come on boys, average viewers like me can see through these things.</p>
<p>Well, my message is clear &#8211; dump Charlie Cox. You do not need someone who knows everything about cars. Even worse, you do not need someone who THINKS they know everything about cars, like Cox.</p>
<p>Top Gear Australia CAN work &#8211; it just NEEDS work. They can replace hosts; TG Britain replaced some fat guy with James May ages ago, and haven&#8217;t looked back.</p>
<p>The thing is, Top Gear Australia to flourish, and for the hosts to relax into their roles, they need far less pressure on them to perform. I&#8217;m obviously not helping here, but if SBS expects millions of viewers, and millions of advertising dollars, it must wait a few years, and let Top Gear, like a swiss cheese, mature.</p>
<p>But the holes in Top Gear Australia&#8217;s program shouldn&#8217;t be left alone, like in a swiss cheese. They need fixing.</p>
<p>Whoa &#8211; the length of this doesn&#8217;t make me look like I don&#8217;t have a life, now does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Clarkson likes Ester Ranson why can\&#039;t I like Vicki Butler-Henderson?</description>
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		<title>By: topdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>topdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the old days when thay just tested a car and gave to a run down on how thay performed .Like i wont to buy a small suv thay didnt tell me any thing . Thay just acted like kids in the sand dunes with no feed back. And as if i would drive a toyota rav though the dunes like those idiots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the old days when thay just tested a car and gave to a run down on how thay performed .Like i wont to buy a small suv thay didnt tell me any thing . Thay just acted like kids in the sand dunes with no feed back. And as if i would drive a toyota rav though the dunes like those idiots</p>
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