Comments on: Mazda MPS3 at Tasmanian tarmac challenge

By: daniel

daniel — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:38:37 +0000

why is everyone arguing so much? mps is faster then a GTI end of story. GTI is a better car because of the quality inside out, interior plastics cost a lot more then plastic in mazda 3 mps , GTI doesnt struggle to put the power down, and u can get it APR TUNED for 1500 dollars stage 1 and u got 188kws, and over 350nm of torque, then it will have a chance against mazda, or if u get stage 2 APR tuning u ll have over 430 nm of torque and about 210 kws, i ve driven both golf GTI stock and mazda 3 mps, 3 mps has a short power range, most power s gone by 5 000 rpm, i even driven the 2009 model mps, and i can tell ya my sp 23 felt faster, mazda has ruined their new 2009 model, it feels heavy and like its missin 50 kws,

By: Ryz

Ryz — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:21:38 +0000

Funny that in all major publications available in the states (Automobile, Car & Driver, Motor Trend, Road & Track, Almost all Web sites that do comparisons) the MS3 (as it’s referred to here) spanks them all. Please reference for me all the publication that have the GTI winning head to heads. Most don’t rely solely on speed for their numbers and the GTI still looses, imagine that. I guess your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion that doesn’t match most others.

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:33:41 +0000

settle down Richo.

at no point did i say you thought the MPS WASNT a quicker car.

i merely pointed out that your method in evaluating the easier to drive on the limit motor vehicle in your day in day out drive was flawed.

you think people are saying something they are not.

what i have read about the MPS is that it is different to drive from a performance perspective.
many journos have said it was difficult to drive at first, and then taken back their comments once they understood the car.

you are always going to find your own vehicle easier to drive than one you have just been plonked into for a session.

i picked up my new FG XR6 on monday Arvo, and i reckon i would put the one i traded around a track quicker than the newbie even though the FG is quicker on paper and has better suspension, better brakes etc.
familarity plays a big part in being comfortable in putting a vehicle on its limit

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:30:01 +0000

By the way my reference to other cars being easier to drive on the limit is intended to mean on the road. On the race track most cars are fairly controllable on the limit, but on the road, which is an unpredictable surface, the MPS’s limits can be more difficult to judge and mid corner bumps can suddenly loosen its line, which means you have to be very aware of the car when you drive it. You can’t just pick it up and chuck it around which is exactly what you CAN do with a golf GTI, renault clio sport and other such hot hatches, and yes even a VRX however you may be right and that may just be me because i am so use to the car. Could even be the tyres, as well all know tyres play a HUGE roll in the handling of a car, and the 3 MPS has some bridgestones from the factory which i personally don’t really rate

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:25:30 +0000

Andrew I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, as far as outright performance and race track ability, their is NOTHING better for under 50k then the 3 MPS. Full stop. Please no one make me repeat this again!

fck sake…

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:58:14 +0000

^^^maybe when i “But” in i should do it with 2 T’s

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:50:56 +0000

sorry to but in guys,

Richo,
you cant honestly expect to jump in the mazda for a session and know the cars limit, and be able to achieve its maximum.
the VRX is a car i assume you have driven every single day for quite a while. one would hope you felt more at home in it, and were able to drive it on the limit easier.

By: Richo

Richo — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:31:31 +0000

Bystander – you go onto websites and pretend to be someone else to make fun of them, but then accuse me of having no life???? i see…

Benito – i think i clearly stated on a number of occasions that on a racetrack the 3 MPS is the far superior tool, i stated this a number of times mate! But fact is most people buy a car for how it goes on the road, not the race track, and on the road, the GTI is superior. If you want to buy a car for the 1 or 2 times a month you get on the track then thats great for you, but most people will buy a car for how it drives the other 98% of the time

By: Reckless1

Reckless1 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:45:10 +0000

Yep, it’s true – Mazda MPs drivers are wankers, just read all the above for confirmation.

They can’t read, are blind to what they don’t want to see. Can’t accept compliments when they are given to their choice of car, and pour crap on everything else. Pity their choice of car can’t compete with the same size engine, though, they have to go much bigger, and their Ford brethren need to go bigger again and add another cyl.

Thank god they don’t drive GTIs, they’d reduce the VW driver average IQ quite a bit.

Level the playing field – let them compete against a chipped Golf with 190Kw and 400nm (which is a stage 1 flash), and their precious car will get wiped by the superior GTI chassis.

By: Bystander

Bystander — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:14:52 +0000

Richo, obviously you are not very smart either. Look again at what “Ben” wrote, these are not his words, how can a person admits he is a wanker. This was not from “Ben”, it was someone who makes a fun out of Ben, which is me. Get a life man, why argue a simple thing over and over again.