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Hyundai i30 targets Volkswagen Golf

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By Alborz Fallah
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The second-generation Hyundai i30 is set to bring the Korean manufacturer into an entirely new war zone, going head to head with the Europeans, particularly the Volkswagen Golf.

The world’s fifth largest manufacturer (as part of the Hyundai-Kia group) is no longer just benchmarking itself against the Japanese; it has embarked on much grander ambitions to go head to head with the Europeans on looks, feel, drivability and even brand desirability. For years Hyundai was seen as a ‘cheap’ brand that offered reasonably good cars at reasonable prices. Since the launch of the original i30 though, Hyundai has worked extensively to change its image and build up its brand value.

In 2000 the company initiated a quality management program that saw Hyundai focus heavily on improving quality and reliability. In that regard, it was benchmarking the Japanese. Like many Korean companies (and Japanese before them), Hyundai went through a phase where it was a “fast-follower”, which is a nicer way of saying it pretty much copied what the Japanese and Europeans were doing. Now, it’s has reached a stage where it has to innovate on its own.

In some ways, this is similar to the Samsung vs. Apple fight happening in the technology world. Samsung, also a Korean company, has quickly caught up to Apple in the smartphone segment and now finds itself in a position where it has to come up with its own ideas to go further.

The new Hyundai i30 was designed primarily for the European market (which is given away by its ‘i’ name designation – arguably and ironically Apple-inspired). As a result, the Koreans focused much of their benchmarking during the development phase of the new i30 on the Volkswagen Golf, one of the best selling cars in Europe. That may not seem like a big deal, since many other manufacturers use the Golf as a benchmark, but it shows that the likes of Toyota’s Corolla and Honda’s Civic are no longer just what the Koreans are aspiring to beat.

Behind the wheel of Hyundai’s new i30, it’s pretty easy to spot the European ‘inspiration’. The dark interior and simple dash layout is very Volkswagen, as is the overall cabin ambience. The steering feel now available with Hyundai’s flex-steering system, is also, finally, on par with the Golf. Most importantly, there are many signs of originality ranging from the i30′s overall design to the air-conditioning vents. This is a good thing in many ways, except that the i30 is likely to be in a similar price bracket as the Golf when in launches in Australia (in the very near future). As a result, it has to be better value for money or just better in general in order to win over new customers. But is it better than a current (soon to be replaced) Golf? It’s hard to say (full review soon).

What is easy to conclude, however, is that Hyundai has quickly worked out that if it wants to become bigger and more successful, it has to be loved. In this regard, it’s working hard to build an emotional connection to its brand (something the Europeans have done so well) and not just by offering more standard kit but also by utilising some clever marketing.

In the USA, for example, the company offers a huge 10-year warranty as well as a guaranteed buy-back scheme for owners who lose their jobs within one year of purchasing (the program seized at the end of March). It may not be much, but the goodwill that the program brought to the brand was invaluable (Hyundai tells us that only about 300 owners ever returned their cars).

Whether or not Hyundai’s new i30 will beat the current Golf on sales volume is a moot point. The next-generation Volkswagen Golf is expected to be unveiled at September’s Paris motor show and when it arrives in Australian dealerships next year, we will know for sure if Hyundai’s effort in competing with the best that Europe has to offer has been a success.


 

  • Sebastian, Style Messiah

    I have a feeling this will be an expensive hatch… If the price is too close to a Golf.well, most people would buy a Golf. Ford have had to discount the Focus in order to sell… Launch pricing was virtually at VW levels.

    Another headache for Hyundai is no i30 wagon for Oz… I don’t like the expensive and awkward looking ix35 and the i40 is too expensive. This is a major product blunder by Hyundai.

    In any case, I wish Hyundai well as the new i30 is a decent car.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah

      Just to clarify, I said it will retail in a SIMILAR price bracket to the Golf, not exact. 

      The current i30 starts at under $20g, so it’s likely the new one will start in the same (or very close) price point.  

      • Sebastian, Style Messiah

        Thank you the clarification… Still, i40 type positioning will consign it to the same likely fate of the new Honda Civic hatch, niche not volume.

  • Frannk

    How much did they pay for this ad?

    • Pgr

      Indeed..

  • F1

    I am no advocate of the Golf, but if I was to choose between Golf or i30 I would choose Golf, it’s simply better..

    I’ve seen all of Hyundais latest products and there’s really nothing about then which stands out, their performance is sub-par, refinement is rubbish, engines are not good, they’re not fast..

    They’re just paper happy, in that they have bragging rights due to their class leading paper performance but in the real world they cannot standout unfortunately..

    • Reckless1

      I saw one of these I’s today at the lights in VW central – Glen Waverley.  Ironically it was waiting for the green right beside a MKVI Golf.

      They might be aiming for the stars, but man, side by side you realise they still have a looooong way to go.  And that’s without looking under the skin.

      I’d put my 4 year old MKV golf up against one of these any day, and it would still be better.

      • Legnab

        Iam confused , when i look at a KIA i see definate germanic style cues with the hyundai i see asian/toyota style cues , so have they got the right brand to to take on the golf .

        Optima looks so much classier than the i45 moving along the tarmac

        • Nasal Explorer

          Kia’s may look germanic due to the input of Peter Schreyer, late of Audi.

    • Tom

      I recently drove an i45 hire car in the US, and it was fine. Unlike what you say, the refinement was good, it was certainly no sports car but it handled acceptably and rode nicely, and was pretty economical. I probably wouldn’t buy one, but it was certainly on the pace with other comparable cars (certainly better than similar US cars such as the Chevy Malibu), and a huge improvement over Hyundais of yore. The way I see it, the more manufacturers producing good cars, the better – look at what happened to the supercar market with the introduction of the Honda NSX, or the luxury sedan market with the Lexus LS400, for instance. 

  • MisterZed

    Hyundai USA offers a 10 year *powertrain* warranty.  This only covers engine and transmission.  The normal warranty is still 5 years, like it is here in Australia, but their warranty is limited to a fixed number of miles, unlike here where it’s unlimited.

    • Reckless1

      And no doubt, like the Mitsubishi 10 year warranty, it’s not transferrable to the second owner.

      • Fred

        Wrong !

  • Nick.676

    Nice car looks great golf vw better start lifting there game

  • Nick.676

    Nice car looks great golf vw better start lifting there game

  • Blair Waldorf

    I’m in no way a Golf or VW fan, BUT if Hyundai prices this like a Golf, it will not be a success. Hyundai still screams cheap to most people, it will be a long time until they will have the perceived ‘prestige’ that VW have. Not even the Japanese are there yet. Hyundai is aiming too high.

    • Sumpguard

         There are many buyers that will NEVER buy another VW. I know a few personally.

          I agree” in part ” on your prestige comments however a lot of the buying public disagree and buy Japanese over German regardless of price . VW can use that “prestige” to continue to rip off unsuspecting buyers at service time!!

         The new Mazda CX5 outsold the Tiguan by nearly 3-1 in Australia last month despite the CX5 being underpowered (and equally dull in my opinion) according to most reviews and yet priced similar to the VW at entry level and whilst I don’t have the exact breakdown I’ll bet most sold were petrol just as with the other brands available !!   Not everyone sees VW as “prestige” , particularly the golf/polo.

         The Tiguan was outsold by the ix35 last month despite VW slashing $5,500 off the price to bring it under $30 grand  ($28,490) late last year. Also worth noting is the i40 wagon which has gone straight out the door each time our local dealer has landed one and they are up around the $45 grand mark. Both the ix35 and i40 are selling despite the many bloggers in this site saying they were “too dear and won’t sell” when they landed. The point being not everyone still sees them as cheap. Plenty of people have moved on.

         Your claim that the Japanese haven’t matched VW’s prestige is foolish. Go do your own survey (though I suspect it will arrive back here flawed) on how people perceive Lexus against VW.

           I think Hyundai have a little way to go with handling to match the VW line but at the rate they are learning it would be a fool that dismisses the likelihood of it happening. Unless the two Koreas go to war it won’t be a “long time” as you claim. If I had said Hyundai will outsell Ford ,Subaru, Mitsubishi, Volkswagen and Honda in Australia by 2012 even 5 years ago I’d have been carted off to the funny farm.

            As for the new i30 I’ll reserve judgement until after it is launched locally and the verdicts are in but I personally like the styling .  A vast improvement externally on the current model. 

            Whilst my post reads like a VW bashing I am actually a bit of a VW fan however I won’t take the risk on ownership based on my discussion with owners both current and former. I’d buy another Hyundai in a heartbeat and can honestly say I have not spoken to a single owner with the same concerns as the VW seems to attract and that right there is Hyundai’s core strength and the reason for people now being prepared to spend more on their vehicles. Their reputation for reliability is one that VW would love to share. Certainly the 500,000 plus recalls VW have announced since November haven’t helped.

            I drove a Jetta diesel a couple of years back (halfway around the coast of this great country) and really enjoyed it. They drive very well but……..
         

      • Sumpguard

           I do think Hyundai are silly not to bring the wagon here though (if it is true) which accounts for 20 percent of the current lineup’s sales!

      • Mad Max

        And I know just as many people (me and my wife are 2) that have owned VW’s and bought new ones without hesitation. We have never had any issues with them from a reliability point of view and the resale price has been brilliant. What we do is ALWAYS have them serviced by a local VW dealer. Appart from the price to service the DSG trans, the prices are on par with Honda and Mazda. If you take the fact that most Honda and Mazda service are 10’000km or 6 months against VW 15’000/12 months the prices work out pretty much the same apart from the DSG service as Honda and Mazda use a regular torque converter auto. Many of the problems with VW engines and DSG’s (apart from early DSG oil ingress into the DSG wiring loom) relates to people using 91 octane fuel instead of 95/98, and incorrect oil used in the DSG when they are serviced away from dealers. What most people need to understand is that the DSG oil is made (by I think Caltex) only for VW and their dealers. It is NOT available anywhere else. If you have to have the car serviced by a non VW repair shop you MUST by the DSG oil from VW and supply it to be used by the repairer. When people see the price of the oil the by cheaper non VW oil and then complain when the DSG fails. No I don’t work for VW I am just a happy owner that follows the guidelines set out in the owners hand book and am happy to pay a bit more for fuel and servicing to have a reliable car.

        • Sumpguard

            Oue client’s DSG died at 11,000 k’s and was absolutely servied by VW with the recommended oil at a very ridiculous $23 per ltr! We know many people and only one now has a VW and it’s a polo.

          • Reckless1

            Blatant lie.  At 11000k the DSG was nowhere near a required service, neither was the car unless 12 months had elapsed.  Before posting put brain in gear.

          • Sumpguard

              Brain was in gear. As stated already elsewhere they got the car serviced early because they were heading around the coastal route from Cairns to Adelaide on holidays.  Holiday ruined and car has since been sold!!!!!!

                 It died near Mackay barely 700 km’d from home and the genius at the service overfilled the transmission! Put brain in gear and don’t assume everyone waits to get their car servied at the required interval. My Sportage is about to go into get its first with barely 9,000k’s on the clock. Not due until 15,000k’s.

                 You really are Reckless!
              

          • Mad Max

            I agree Reckless. The DSG service is 60’000km and has been since they were introduced so why would you service one at 11’000kms? Some people…

          • Sumpguard

               Mad Max you need to get your car serviced elsewhere if the dealership isn’t checking the transmission fluid when you get your car serviced.

          • Legnab

            Yes complete rubbish , maybe an old sportage might need constant monitoring , checking at 12 months is fine , sounds like a porky tale .

          • Sumpguard

            Okey Dokey,

                             Got the ins and outs of the failed transmission last night. The tranny died at 11,000k’s and was repaired as a warranty claim. Local service centre also threw in a free service for the trouble. Still not enough in their opinion as it stuffed their holiday.

                  After tranny was repaired she wasn’t comfortable and took the vehicle to a friend who is a mechanic on advice of her partner to make sure all was good as it didn’t feel right. He told them whoever fitted the new trans had way overfilled the transmission oil.

                  The price of the oil was on the invoice which she nearly died over before being told she didn’t have to pay it but needed to sign it as part of their policy.

               Transmission was NEVER touched by anyone outside of VW prior to failing so it wasn’t a result of the wrong oil being used as Mad Max states above. Vehicle was a 2009 Golf GTi. Trans was a 6 speed dual clutch DSG .

               Owner (female who never drove the car hard) sold vehicle at 15,000k’s.  Still very much in warranty as she lost confidence in it and was told by her mechanic friend that her’s wasn’t a one off! 

                Legnab aka Bangel you should go and check on the older Sportage’s owner forums for a list of problems. They don’t have any. They may have been a sub par drive but they had no major issues. Your statement is complete rubbish.

                I have more confidence in my sportage than VW . Hence why I have said numerous times I love the cars but wouldn’t own one. We very nearly bought a Jetta before the problems they have emerged. My Sportage is a year old this month.

                  

      • toto

        i30 vs golf…
        Where is the other model come from??

    • Sebastian, Style Messiah

      I agree, for example Hyundai’s ambitious pricing of its i40 means that a leather equipped Passat wagon is cheaper… Go figure. I have not seen many i40s on the road so I must conclude that the model must be struggling. The same fate will befall the i30 unless pricing is right.

      • dafuq

        I haven’t seen many Passat wagons either, so obviously they must be struggling too. It’s just so obvi.

  • Ryan

    honestly, i buy a hyundai for more than i would pay for a japanese. just saying. although their design looks awesome, their fit and finish, engine, are still sub-par. its just not the sort of class and quality you would get .. say.. in a civic

  • Ryan

    i wouldnt*

  • Pauly

    I personally think the new i30, i40 and Veloster look fantastic and I wouldnt hesitiate to buy one. (Im a VW Golf owner).

    • Pauly

       What the new i30 doesnt match the VW Golf with, it will beat it with:

      - Cheaper Servicing
      - Better warranty
      - Cheaper to repair (if you have an accident)
      - Some would argue better overall build quality.

      • Monk

        Why does anyone care about the cost of repair these days?  Any accident will cost more than a standard excess – let the insurance company worry about the cost beyond that.

        I predicted 5 or so years ago that hyundai would have this strong surge.  I also predicted 10 years ago that diesel would become much more popular as petrol prices rose.  Now if only I could have worked my magic on last night’s Oz Lotto numbers…

      • TG

         You forgot reliability. ;)

      • MichaelLock

        and don’t forget other important factors.

        - More dealerships (easier to find one closer to you and for drive holidays)
        - Korean economy for stable against parts inflation as opposed to VW/$Euro mess about to hit us soon. 

        • F1MotoGP

           So we should forget Lexus…not many dealers in Melbourne.

      • Waggaclint

        Yep i agree, but you forgot to ad

        - Reliable engines

  • Lbrinsmead

    Late last year I decided to trade in my 1997 Golf 3. I initionaly thought to get another Golf, which I did, but there was part of me considering to wait for this new Hyundai. At the time the concept cars were heavily camouflaged, but when I first saw the official photos I thought wow, such a good radical design.

    Then after seeing the amount of buttons and ergonomics of the interior, I appreciated the less cluttered and ergonomic design of the new Golf. But mostly good job Hyundai. I’m thinking in Australia the i30′s main competitors would be the Mazda3 and Toyota Corolla, since most people prefer to buy better reliability for a slightly less price over better ergonomics and quality materials.

  • F1MotoGP

    What is a big difference is engine. VW engines are much better. Hyundai 2L petrol 105Kw at 6000rpm and 186Nm at 4600. VW 90TSI is 90kW at 5000 and 200Nm between 1500 and 4000 rpm. Fuel economy is same VW is much better. City 10.3 v 7.9 and Hwy 6.1 v 5.2 L/100km. Japanese and Koreans should improve they engines. Still no direct injection (some models now have it) and 4 speed auto….etc.

    • Legnab

      And the handling is way behind , most golf buyers are downsizing from a large car and expect performance and handling along with quality build and they dont mind paying the extra , long long way to go to be on any golf byers cross shopping list .

    • Sebastian, Style Messiah

      Yes, but Hyundai can run on 91 RON, VW recommends 98 RON.

      • F1MotoGP

         Which Golf need PULP98?  Recommended RON Rating95 for GTi.

        • Mad Max

          You are 100% correct

        • Sebastian, Style Messiah

          Dealer said 98… Just checked, you are right minimum RON is 95. Man, sales staff don’t know their product.

      • F1MotoGP

         Only the Golf R needs 98 RON. You can not compare the Golf R to basic Hyundai.  Modern engines with DI need higher RON but you gain kW and Nm.

      • Mad Max

        No, VW recommends 95 as a minimum. It says so on the fuel cap and flap of my VW and the same on my wifes. 

  • Doctor

    Time will tell how it goes in the market, but it looks good.
    A lot of the “VW problems” are things of the past due to Chinese components no longer used. But parts prices (for things such as injectors) are horrible. As for VW’s position, well its the German Toyota – the Touareg is priced like a Landcruiser. Therefore I can’t see why an i30 won’t be shopped against VW as well as Toyota, etc.

  • ABCDEFG


    The world’s fifth largest manufacturer (as part of the Hyundai-Kia group) is no longer just benchmarking itself against the Japanese; it has embarked on much grander ambitions to go head to head with the Europeans”

    The Koreans are saying their arch rival, the Japanese cars are cr4p and not worth comparing with. It also reads they have surpassed and leap frogged the Japanese products and comparing themselves with the better Euro products. The truth is …. as the people which car is more reliable, the Mazda3 and the Golf and the answer is there.

  • BP

    Hopefully, but the size of their new cars concerns me. Anyone see how big the new Elantra is?

    • ABCDEFG

      I only hear from Hyundai and they say “It’s a big small car” or something to that effect.

  • Tim

    Will be interesting when the Astra lands here. IMO, it looks way better than the Golf or any other hatch.

  • Robin_Graves

    Unfortunately I think the i30 will not be able to make a significant dent in Golf sales.  Too many ignorant badge snobs buy Golfs just so they can feel all prestige and upper class.  At least only the smart buyers will consider other models leaving all the latte sipping manscaped metros and try-hard posers to the Golf.

    • F1MotoGP

       Golf is no more prestige than i30. If you test drive both cars you will see that Golf engines are much better specially at lower revs with good pulling power.

    • Lbrinsmead

      What’s ignorant about wanting prestige and quality, unless a person doesn’t value that of course.

      A good example would be Apple products, they are high quality products. People are buying iPhones, iPads and Macs because they care about quality.

      • Robin_Graves

        Its an image of prestige and quality.  People who are obsessed about what other people think about them buy Apple / VW etc.  Most of them know nothing about what’s really under the hood.  Same with IT, fashion over function.  Samsung, ASUS, Motorola tablets running Android are infinitely more configurable and able to run custom ROMs.  The Apple sheep dont care about the function they just want to look cool.  Same goes for VW, badge snobs just want to name drop and show off their VW thinking they are above everyone else.  

        People who really know what goes on beneath the surface choose a car that fits their needs at the right price instead of ‘I wouldnt be caught dead in a Hyundai”.  Rational rather than emotional.

        • Mad Max

          I agree with some of your sentiments Robin. However not everybody that buys a VW is a badge snob. In our family I own a new Passat and my wife a new Polo GTI. Why did we buy them? Well I previously had a Golf GTI and my wife a diesel Golf. At the time of purchase we thought they were the cars that best fitted our needs and they seemed well built. Both were traded in on new VW’s becuase over the nearly 4 years (my car with 132’000 kms and my wifes 117’000kms) both were 100% reliable and faultless in every way. Our cicumstances have changed a bit so my wife bought the Polo and I got a Passat for its load carrying capacity. No other car that we looked at in the Polo size had the performance or the finish and in the medium sized car range, we drove a Mazda 6 (to me a bit noisey and a bit under powered) a Mondeo (much bigger than the Passat) a Skoda Octavia (no Skoda dealer within 30 kms of where I live) and then some SUV’s but I don’t want or like SUV’s. Then we got the trade in value on the VW’s and both were over 50% so with that and the great run we had with the previous cars we got 2 new ones. The Passat is now 10 months old and has just reached 30’000kms and I could not be happier. The Polo is a bit newer due to the long waiting list and I thinks has done 6’000kms. It is brilliant to drive. What I’m trying to get at is not all VW owners are badge snobs (though I concede some might be). Some of us buy them based on rational thinking.

          • Sosick

            So rational thinking, why did you not choose hyundai over vw? Esp regarding price?

          • Mad Max

            Because of the great run we had with the previous VW’s plus Hyundai don’t have a mid sized wagon unless you go for an IX35 or I40. As I already stated I don’t like SUV’s. When you option up an I40 to match the Passat they come out almost identical in price and the Passat has a better expected re-sale. In my wifes case, the only cars Hyundai have in the Polo size are the I30 (now quite an old car) or the Accent. Neither car comes close to matching the performance of the Polo GTI. The new Veloster Turbo might come close but of course its still a few months of selling here.

        • Sebastian, Style Messiah

          As a VW driver and an Apple user I now realise that I am a shallow wanker that knows nothing technical. Thanks for saving me… I was about to buy a book on Bauhaus design, now I’ll read the sports pages instead.

          • Sumpguard

               No need to apologise Sebastian. Your “style messiah” tag told the whole story! Try the deep end !!

        • Lbrinsmead

          I think Robin you prefer to critique things from the inside out, which is typical from an engineering point of view. But because the majority of the buying public aren’t engineers, they critique from the outside in.

          For example, most people who use a good smartphone don’t care about what type of processor is in it, they just want their phone to be fast enough for them to quickly do things they want to do.

        • Lbrinsmead

          As I mentioned in my first comment Robin, I highly considered this new Hyundai over the Golf. That’s like saying, I mostly like this car, but I think the Golf is a bit better. It seems that if you want a bit better you have to pay a bit better.

          My point is, ten, even five years ago I, like many, didn’t consider buying a Hyundai over a Volkswagen. That shows how much Hyundai have improved in such sort time.

      • bd

        Many would argue that Apple is a marketing company that happens to make a few products.

        In many ways, it’s like Bose (except Apple products are pretty good) – which thru its massive advertising expenditure has convinced many that it makes “premium” audio equipment when most audiophiles wouldn’t give Bose products the time of day.

      • Golfschwein

        Right with you. It’s human nature to be desirous. Most of us want things that are, well, sometimes just a little bit nicer. Show me someone who wants something that’s just a little bit more horrible and I’ll eat my latte cup.

        • Legnab

          I like that golfy well said , we see it in our business everday , quality wins .

          VW have a secret weapon besides nice motors , great handling and looks , those interiors just blast the asians away , understated , quality materials , the right feel , kids might like starwars dash treatments , not me function over fizz .

          • Robin_Graves

            And drivelines that like to hand grenade, electrics that like to fail and bland looks/interiors that will send a meth addict to sleep.  How can something function if its broken every few weeks? I fail to see how ‘quality’ and ‘VW’ can go together when they are consistently below par in reliability. The sheep have the wool pulled over their eyes.

          • Legnab

            The wonders of fables , who wrote these legends and tales of woe , was it barry , nemo or perhaps hung , dont believe ever tale you hear robin .

            After three GTI’s i can speak from experience , non have let me down , all serviced on time correct fuel , absolutely zero problems during their 4 year lease .

            As i said not all of us like fizzy wacko exteriors/interiors that date very quickly and depreciate the value of the vehicle .

             You stick with the korean car of choice if being part of the herd rocks your boat .

          • Luke Brinsmead

            I suggest you look at this Robin…

            http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/driver_power/281122/best_for_reliability_and_build_quality.html

            The Golf is up there with the Mazda3.

          • Lbrinsmead

            The Golf came 27th, just two places behind the Mazda3 in the 2012 Auto Express reliability and quality category.

          • Lbrinsmead

            Actually three places behind, but also a few ahead of the Auris. Yes the old i30 was better in 12th, but the point is the Golf is up there with the best in terms of reliability and quality.

          • Lbrinsmead

            Actually three places behind, but also a few ahead of the Auris. Yes the old i30 was better in 12th, but the point is the Golf is up there with the best in terms of reliability and quality.

  • Eskylid69

     the problem for hyandai/kia is that they are a follower, and seen as a follower. much like samsung copies everything apple does (and makes quite a profit doing it). But if you are always copying, trying to be as good as your competitor, your never going to be #1 – and customers today will know it. I like both brands but i know they arent as good as VWs because their own attitude conveys that to the market.

    • bd

      Except Apple really HASN’T innovated as much as REpackage existing technologies in a pretty package with a user-friendly OS and a slick advertising campaign.

      LG’s touchscreen phone, the Prada phone, was revealed BEFORE the iPhone, and all the technologies used on the iPhone were already in existence.

      Similarly, there were tablet computers before the iPad; LG, itself, had used the iPad name on a product years before Apple.

      Even the basic design/shape of the iPad is just what various manufacturers have been using for digital frames for years, including Samsung.

      Now, as far as technology innovation, Samsung blows away Apple – being one of the largest patent filers/holders.

      • Dvds

        JUST WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY! I AM SICK OF BRAIN WASHED APPLE HEADS. open any apple product and 50%+ inside would say samsung. Lg sued apple as apple copied the prada phone that case quickly went silent. Apple prob paid their way out. They won’t be with samsung and their childish law suits

  • George Vivin

    I’ve had a Golf 118TSI for about a year now and it still continues to surprise me. It’s been faultless to date and the little things like the mouse fur in the glovebox and the damped storage compartments add to the feeling that it’s a bit more classy than the rest of the small car class.

    • Lbrinsmead

      Mouse fur? Interesting…

  • Rocket

    Why would Hyundai target the Golf when the i30 already sells more? Just an excuse to raise prices.

    • F1MotoGP

       I think they mean world wide not in Australia.

    • Doctor

      Well if you can get away with it….. Apple can and does.

  • SamM

    It’s great to see some true VW supporters on this forum. I’ve been getting so sick and tired of all the negative and unfair slants against VW by pro-Korean users on this site. 

    The Koreans have a while to go before they can match the level of innovation and engineering excellence that VW provides in its cars. If it wasn’t for Germany and its progressive innovations, the copy-cat Korean car makers wouldn’t be in existence. 

    Ask any motoring jounro and you’ll be hard-pressed to find one that wouldn’t recommend a VW…

  • scatman

    I wont buy anything from a nation that eats dog, savages

    • coolbeans

      What about from a nation that had a nutter who exterminated jews? 

      • Mad Max

        If we want to go down that path then what about a nation that exterminated Tasmanian Aboriginals (we try so hard to forget that), a nation that enslaved and tortured allied POW’s (they have tried to deny that for 50 odd years) or a country that enslaved blacks and assasinated the one black person who tried to stand up and speak out against it. Hang on then, none of us would have a car to drive!!! Maybe its best to just move on and look to the future instead of the past?

      • James Cortez

        That’s downright stupid. This forum is about car and car enthusiast! Don’t talk past history about a nation you moron. 

  • Edward

    I think this can only be a good thing. There isnt enough competition in the premium hatch market.

    Though im not sure on the looks of the new i30, im guessing the selling point will be based on value.

    • Edward

      I looked at photos of the i30 in silver and im actually sold on the looks. I dont think they should advertise this car in red

  • Neutral Guest

    I own a Ford and my wife owns a Peugeot, were not fans of any of the above cars, but if i had to choose between a VW hatch and the new i30, then i would proberly buy the new i30. Why? Because It looks better, has more tech inside. Unlike some dinosours I like gigets. Who cares if it has less kw or hp. Im not a race driver, the streets are 60km or 50km, the only place u can go fast is the hwy and even thats not fast enough. (Besides speed kills) I dont think hyundai is trying to make a fast cars, more of an every day car. They have came a long way and I think they well contiune to grow. good on them. From what Ive read, VW people need to move on, sure its an image of prestige and quality, But u make it sound like Hyundia well break down after 20,000km. If u dont want to buy a hyundia ever then dont, be norrow minded.  Plus in most cases who looks under the bonnet these days. Sure VW has more pulling power or HP, but who cares, are u really gonna drag race if u pull up next to a Hyundia, are you going to tow a trailer or boat, unlikely, can your VW pull seconds or thirds? No it cant, go buy a Rotary or V8 if u want real power. There just hatches both cars but the only difference is Hyundia looks better and u just cant come to terms with that. VW hatches are nice dont get me wrong but i just think Hyundia has done it better now. And  Im not an pro-Korean user either.