Comments on: Toyota gets tough on counterfeit parts

By: ROTSTAR | Importator piese Auto Hyundai si Daewoo

ROTSTAR | Importator piese Auto Hyundai si Daewoo — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:22:53 +0000

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By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:37:50 +0000

Alex,
Mate i missed the bit where it said they were actually putting toyota logos on them. I initially thought it was related to aftermarket parts which can be common.

I was already corrected on that missed point much earlier in the piece, but good thing you are here to save the internet one post at a time

Ive seen counterfeit stuff before. Ive been to Hong Kong and seen it all first hand. the markets run ripe with it.
I even bought a fake pair of Bolle ha ha ha ha.
sure they are not as good as the real things, but i found them no worse than the average no name brand sunnies.
same as the Levis being no worse than any Kmart branded jeans.

It is wrong though if people are put under the perception that it is the genuine article

By: ALEX

ALEX — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:49:32 +0000

Andrew m- You dont have a clue. Aftermarket parts are mostly legal are are made by different car parts companies for such models. What Toyota are saying here is they are companies making copies of genuine products and selling to the Car shops and claiming they are genuine. They are imitation of the genuine products. Have you every seen a conterfeit jeans i.e levis 501.

By: billy_bob_119

billy_bob_119 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:54:12 +0000

All car company’s are having the same problem its just not Toyota.

By: Dlr1

Dlr1 — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:27:05 +0000

I imagine all manufacturers are concerned about counterfeit parts not non genuine replacement parts. I do buy a lot of non genuine or aftermarket parts (some good, some not so good) and quite a bit of genuine parts but the last thing i want to do is pay genuine parts money for something because it has a fake logo on it.

By: DanMan

DanMan — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:19:29 +0000

Hey guys sorry I’m i’m late dealer conference In Brisbane,
did i miss much? oh a Toyota Post, this will be colourful…
My God Anything Toyota gets a reaction doesn’t it? I guess success of other’s really makes some people angry.
A company trying to keep most people happy, most of the time is a bad thing, yes?

By: Frontman

Frontman — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:57:50 +0000

Amussing that this has become another Toyota bash by some. However having seen things from both sides, Genuine parts pricing is OTT the majority of time. (here we go bring on the smart A*** comments) but when i ran Daewoo Workshop and we needed parts for Used cars or Ssangyong Musso’s it paid to ring around. Foreman Mech needed a water pump for a 2.2 Vectra used car, GM-H price $750.00 (there abouts) Daewoo price $420.00. Cheaper inferior product? Nope both ex Fishermans Bend, just different box. M/Benz Plastic cowl on 3.6 petrol eng $187.00, Musso part $18.00!!! (these are decorative only).

What I have found with a lot of these sorts of parts (and not just Automotive) is that it is generally a company that is sub contracted the manufacture of these parts, and has either just lost the contract or someon has gotten the bright idea of cutting ou the middle man. Kinda like you buying on “e-Bay”. A lot cheaper because it doesn’t go through the distributer.

By: The Parts Importer

The Parts Importer — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:46:32 +0000

I think some people who have read this article have got the wrong impression of what it means. Toyota could not care less about non-genuine parts, and quite often these parts come from the same manufacturer as the genuine article. What the problem is, is counterfeit parts branded as Toyota. There is a big difference between non-genuine, and counterfeit.

By: James

James — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:43:48 +0000

Realcars just dont get it, I’d say its a sign of the Anti-Christ the day he says something positive about Toyota. A Toyota salesman took your wife or something??

Anyways, I tune my weekend cars, I like and trust brands like HKS, Apexi, GReddy, Work, Enkei etc some of the more popular aftermarket performance brands…

the KEY WORD being PERFORMANCE…

the article here talks about dodgy parts, yes most likely from China.

I know for a fact that parts drawings sent to Chinese manufacturer plants have to have different part numbers, and even sometimes no dimensions, dimensions are sent through another method… to prevent these drawings being intercepted or being reprinted then “sold” to “cheap’ dodgy chinese manufacturers…. Again I know this for a fact.

Nike gave up and basically just established chinese Nike manufacturing plants to take advantage of cheap materials and cheap labour.. but strictly the products are sold in China…. but with eBay these days, these poorer quality “Nike” products make it here and everywhere.

The next phenomena is the automotive industry…

So Realcars, please just STFU if you don’t know what you’re talking about, start a Toyota Hate forum. Because the article here is about protecting assets and ultimately jobs by Australian suppliers, Australian manufacturers… Who will buy an australian manufactured “genuine” part for a Holden if there’s a chinese alternative worth 1/10th the price?

Toyota has many suppliers, Thailand, US, Europe, Australia etc… heck even China, but everything must be to a certain standard.. heaps of chinese counterfeits are straight rip off of design but using cheaper materials… out of spec too and usually 3 to 4 times the value of tolerance.. which means poor fitment.

By: The Salesman

The Salesman — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:28:26 +0000

If the dealer is fitting it you would hope it is factory approved, or no warrenty.
You bought a Jackaroo new?
Sorry…..