Sole reason I bought a VY Commodore wagon is because it is HUGE! I am a tradie. Parts are cheap and plentiful, and yet everyone tried to talk me out of buying one saying they are so unreliable and etc etc.

Guess what. Had mine a year and never had an issue. Ok it has annoying things with it, but where can you buy a car this big for the money?

People support home grown.

Lastly, someone should shoot the BF Falcon wagon desginer. I would have bought one if it werent so damn nasty looking!

While Wayne implies there are some bloody good Aussie cars that don’t get full credit, he misses the fact that there are also some bloody good Aussie motoring writers who don’t get full credit. Generally speaking, generalisations suck!

surely they could tweek it minor and add a 6 speed auto to get it under the target…..

What about the comparo between the E500, 550i and Calais V… and Wheels said the Calais V interior was nicer than the 550i… wonder how many of the Holden faithful lapped that up?

I don’t think Sally Dominguez has ever sat in an Audi.

the only one confirmed on fords OZ’s site at the moment is the new fiesta.

you are right on terry sales. its not really that the territory has lost sales, its more that the Kluger has picked up a bucket load from somewhere

NM,
i dont think its price so much.
i mean the falcon is cheaper than the commodore,
the focus is selling at a bloody good price, and the mondeo is on par with its competition
what do i think a lot of it is……..
hopeless marketing and hopeless salespeople.

Richo,
the territory only drinks a litre or two more than the falcon. this wagon reported 18L wasnt it?

I do agree though that a few extra litres consumption is worth a better drive.
who would want a corolla over a commy or falcon for the sake of saving a couple of litres/100k??
i mean is a few hundred a year worth having to drive around in something that is merely a car. nothing special, nothing enjoyable, nothing comfortable, JUST A CAR

there is more money to be saved by reviewing your insurance policy and ensuring you have the better deal, or even by shopping around for a better home phone deal, or even a better finance rate on your new purchase.

Ford is on right cue on design format….. just cannot believe how long it has taken to get there as tediously slow and very constraint driven from Dearborn. And all that stubborness from Mullaly and Co have made Ford lose ground and others overtake and widened gap to Toyota. Toyota are not mega smart…. more so Ford is no smart!

ANDREW M…..I always have said Ford are hopeless at hard yards to really take upgrades by the scruff of the neck and renew stylishly there model range. There range will be good…..but gotta price it mega keen and stop being in denial by saying dollar here makes it hard for Mondeo to compete but rather to rational marketting and workforce thereby reducing overheads and go in real hard on price. Since Mondeo released, not a huge success rate which means $$$ need a trimming. And I would not say the Ford is a quantum leap ahead internally over the VE, but rather better as in newer where VE looks like it was when released (i.e. some 2yrs old). That does not mean Holden should spend more on internal design, but rather they will address that cyclic…..MUCH MORE CYCLIC THEN FORD!

BTW Territory sales are still chugging along at about 1000/month, only down about 250/month from 2 years ago. And if you look at where they have lost sales, it’s to the smaller Forrestor and cheaper Koreans.
The Kluger sales are severley proped up by hire car fleets but still generally trail Territory.
The top selling “medium SUV” is Prado, which is mostly made up of Landcruiser buyers downsizing.

Yep that interior would fail to satisfy in the real world. The quality looks V Japanese, even my Vectra is better built admittedly not as nice to look at.

Given comment about brakes and sloppy handling its a second rate car in reality.

Oh by the way Wagons are having a resurgence of interest in Europe due to the fact that 4wds are uncomfortable to drive and expensive to run on smooth roads compared to the better handling wagons.

I agree that ford have an awesome line up ready to be released on OZ, but they really need to pull their finger out if they want to discover a bit more market share.

I mean ford hit a real winner to recover from AU with the BA, but what did they do???
they sat on it for 6 years which was probably 18 months too long
then they had a real winner with the territory, and what do they do?? they let everyone catch and then overtake their class leading sales position and wave goodbye to sales in the rearview mirror. That should have been upgraded 12 months ago.

then there is the Escape……
the Kuga is there, why dont they replace the overdone mazda clone. even mazda dont use it anymore.
the new fiesta is on ford OZ’s website now so thats good to see,
but Kuga and updated territory would enhance their sales if they were serious.

Dlr sums it up perfectly when he says its certainly a worthy option.

I can understand Ford not changing the Falcon wagon as it sells something like 95% fleets, and it would with or with out an update.
But by not already having updated the territory???
They have shot themselves in the foot by sitting on a winner for too long.

the EF and BA shape will go down as classic shapes likewise with the VT and VE shape. the VY was a slight miss for mine but at least it wasnt a big of a miss as the AU

You do get my point though dont you??
sure most might take first look at the better looking single when they mingle to your Jingle, but how frustrating do you think it is to take home that single you met whilst doing the mingle to a jingle, only to find your self very frustrated to have to live with it??
or you get home and realise you were under the blue lights of the salesmans speil where everything looks great??