Oddly I see these on the roads.. Thy seem quite common
Anyone with that kind of money to plash on a set of wheels and have a half of a brain will go for M3 or C63.
That’s if they have 1/2 a brain. If they have a full brain they will look beyond the brand snoberry and consider the IS-F, at ~$20k less and with similar performance potential, albeit without the racing pedigree.
Those exhaust outlets are just not right.
As (relatively) cheap as it may be, my money is on ze Chermans.
Agree. I like the car. Tired of seeing so many C63′s on the road. But those stacked exhaust tips just look weird.
Still one great car by Lexus. Really looking forward to the new IS and then the IS-F.
the problem is Lexus does not have the racing pedigree of the Germans. Toyota and Lexus currently are no longer in any major racing or rallying events. Sure Lexus races in US/Japan but the bench marks are Formula 1, Le Mans, WRC etc etc. Without this you have no heritage.
Toyota is deeply embedded in NASCAR competing in all three tiers … Sprint Cup, Nationwide and Craftsman Trucks and todate have won 3 Nationwide and 5 Craftsman Truck Championships. As it currently stands, NASCAR is the second most invested ($$$) motorsport in the world - second fiddle to F1 only.
Toyota is currently developing it’s return to LeMans with a petrol-electric hybrid powered coupe and scheduled for it’s return at the Spa 6 hour race in Belgium on May 5. That said, Toyota has a rich (but not always successful) history of motorsport which includes F1, 3 Manufactuer Titles in the WRC (remember Carlos Sainz and the Castrol sponsored Corolla GT-4s), various regional rally championships and titles such as the Australian Rally Championship, South African Rally Championship while not forgeting the UK and Brazil amoung others. Toyota has also participated (albeit briefly) in Indy Cars. Other forms of motorsport includes Drag Racing particuarly in North America, various Off-Road and Targa Races / Championships throughout different location of the world and for many years has been a solid competitor on it’s home turf participating in the Japanese GT series which now includes rounds in countries such as Malaysia and Singapore and ofcourse has been and continues to be a solid performer in NASCAR. I believe it is a fair to say Toyota has alot of heritage and through it’s continual investment in NASCAR, the Japanese GT series and upcoming return to LeMans retains a healthy motorsport portfolio. Ooops, before i forget, for the past few years Toyota & Lexus has been having a crack at the annual Nurburgring 24 hour aswell albiet with mixed results.
yeah Toyota have tried very hard & probably spent $billions….but for very little success.
That’s not the kind of heritage we’re talking about.
Dude I own a BMW m3 and screw pedigree when you spend 4k in fixing things right after warranty is out . I just test drove an isf and loved it bought it the next day go test drive one first ! I’m glad I bought it and sold my BMW
Still is a relatively competitive car, but its at the end of its life cycle. We should be seeing an updated/new IS soon from Lexus. Judging by the way they worked their magic with the GS i cant wait to see what the updated IS range, and especially the IS-F is going to be like.
Highly capable, unbeatable reliability, unbelievably boring. Toyota just can’t get the product to appeal in the way the Euros can.
Like Renault, Skoda, Citroen or Volvo?
when you are fast on roads you are never bored
For so long, CarAdvice had it wrong. Then they had it right. Once again, they have it wrong. There is no hyphen in “IS F”. Lexus Australia’s website page on the IS F doesn’t state a hyphen and all of Lexus’ IS F related press releases don’t have the hyphen either. This has been a pet peeve of mine from day one.
Perhaps it is not a good phrase to say the brakes have very little if any retardation.
The bonnet just seems out of proportion. I’m guessing that it had to be raised to fit the bigger engine however, the authors comments about competitors styling power bulges are very true.
……. Lexus’ historically low running costs over the life of the vehicle…….could you please elaborate? what are these actual service costs?
I’ve always wanted to like fast Lexus’ but I’m just not feeling it.
Should get yourself in an LFA, you’d be singing a different song
Yeah, those exhaust tips do look comical….Lexus trying a bit too hard.
I recently sold my E46 M3 and bought an IS350. Got tired of being taken to the cleaners every time I had to attend the BMW service department, also got tired of the arrogant ‘care-less’ attitude of BMW. Lexus have been the complete opposite, very helpful and friendly and servicing costs are so much lower. The care itself is not quite the performance car that the M3 was but there is $100k between the two. I have loved the IS350 so far, performance is great, handling is terrific and the quality of the car is obvious (interior trim was starting to fall apart on the M3 after 5 years). A lot more luxurious than the M3 but you just miss a little at 9/10ths.
Well yeah your comparing a generation behind BMW to a current model lexus, of course you’ll feel the difference. Apples to apples, you would probably want to compare the IS350 to the 335i.
I agree though, the Lexus staff seem to be on your level than those in the BMW showroom who seem to be a bit up themselves. I was looking around at an 135i the other day even sitting inside popping the hood and boot for a good 15mins, not one person came around to ask how I am.
I took the 335i for a run before I bought the IS350 and actually cut the drive short because the car was so boring (seriously).
Sure you did.
Try another dealership, generally if they cant be bothered even talking to you in the show room move on, spend your money where its deserved.
Yeah I could, but I was more window shopping anyway.
But generally first impression counts, how many people would have felt annoyed and pulled out from considering purchasing a BMW because of the lack of engagement by the staff.
Not a bad car at all, but like most Lexus cars it’s a little anonymous.
This website reviews a lot of cars that are in the run out mode. Wonder why.
It almost feels like click/comment bait. An article/review about Toyota/Lexus almost guarantees a flame war within the comment section.
I am shopping for a C63 or similar at the moment and I have been drawn to ISF because of the significant saving. Having looked several times, I just cannot bring myself to buy an ISF; it just looks and feels like a poor relation, and ultimately I would feel as if I compromised just for a few bucks.
I got my 2012 ISF 2 months ago, it’s been a blast! That exhaust sound is just so addictive, you want to keep revving it to hear it. Unfortunately, it’s such a quick car that I struggle to keep within the law to hear that sound.
The ride is stiff but still comfortable – I don’t know how to explain it. The seats are super comfy. Interior feels slightly dated but gets the job done well.
And holy dooly, this car likes to go sideways! Boot it mid-corner and VDIM flashes at you – turn off the VDIM and get ready for some crazy sideways action! The LSD makes it really easy to hold the car in a drift, and with the amount of torque available, you just feather the throttle to adjust the slide angle. It’s surprisingly chuckable for such a heavy car.
Lexus customer service was simply top-notch. Every salesman I dealt with was courteous and professional. I love how they give you an IS250 loan car for each service and wash the car for you. You get all the perks like use of their gym and airport valet service, blah blah.
I did cross-shop the M3, which was significantly dearer (Lexus was able to cut me a good deal), the M3 might be a bit more fun but with similar track times (Google it), Lexus’ reliability and customer service, it was a sensible choice to go with.