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2008 Mazda RX-8 GT review

By Karl Peskett |

2008 Mazda RX-8 GT review & road test

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Model Tested:

  • 2008 Mazda RX-8 GT – $57,625 (RRP)

Options:

  • None fitted

plus.jpg Stylish, quality, amazing grip and handling, well equipped

minus.jpg Notchy gearbox, firm ride, no torque, steering a bit slow

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- Photography and words by Karl Peskett

The year 2003 brought a new sports car from Mazda. It had been years since the last version of the RX-7, and rotary fans were champing at the bit to see the latest RENESIS engine shoehorned into a lightweight, rear-wheel-drive car.

The RX-8 was brought forth with much fanfare and expectation. Five years down the track, and Mazda has freshened its halo car, with a raft of updates that aren’t immediately apparent, but certainly have refined it.

Stylistically, the original would have been a challenge. To bring it from concept sketch to full size clay model would have been fun. A geometric nightmare, to say the least, given the combination of straights, curves and angles.

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Still, the finished result is rather good and the update to the 2008 model almost tones down some of the original feel, without having lost the RX flavour, making it more accessible to the everyday buyer. Sort of what Subaru did with the Impreza – but in a good way.

There’s revised front and rear bumpers, headlamps, and front quarter panels, but it’s more than a skin-deep change. The internals of the RENESIS rotary engine have also had a makeover, with things like the gas seal lubrication system being changed from a mechanical to an electromagnetic type.

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The engine’s lubrication setup has also been revised, with an electric oil pump, rather than a mechanical unit, and rather than a mist of lubricant, the feed is now liquid. Baffles in the system have also been revised to eliminate oil pressure drop in hard cornering.

The final drive ratio has been shortened from 4.444:1 to 4.777:1, as well as a new six-speed manual gearbox based on the acclaimed MX-5 unit, althought that doesn’t stop it feeling a bit notchy though.

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Thankfully, when we asked Mazda for its new RX-8 to test, it saw fit to send us a bright red GT variant. It’s a good thing, too, as it’s the “driver’s” version of the four-seat, four-door coupe. Well, that’s what the press release says, anyway.

However, we’re not a newspaper and we don’t just regurgitate press releases, so here’s how it drives.

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The GT has additions over the base model to enhance its handling, like new, lightweight 19-inch shadowed wheels with Bridgestone RE050As supply the immense grip, and Bilstein shockers to firm up the ride. A urethane foam-filled front suspension crossmember saves weight and gives strength, and Recaro seats hug your body and hold you like a tight fist.

There’s also the aerodynamic benefit of a body-kit, while extras such as Xenon headlights, aluminium pedals and leather-bound handbrake all justify the $57,625 pricetag. Or try to.

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You see, I just can’t get past the lack of torque this rotary engine displays. It really is like waiting for grass to grow when you’re revving it all the way out. Come out of a corner in second gear, put your foot down and, well nothing, still nothing, err nothing, hold it – nope nothing.

All of a sudden, you realise that you’ve hit 7000rpm, there’s a slight lift in the Newton-metre level and the buzzer now sounds warning you that the 9500rpm cutout is only 500rpm away.

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To be fair, it’s reasonably quick when kept on the boil, but notice I said reasonably. The 0-100km/h time is rated at 6.4 seconds, which to be honest, feels a little optimistic. Plenty of cars can better this, at either this price level, or cheaper. However, not many can go around corners quicker.

The grip is actually scary – not because there’s not enough, but because there’s so much that if it does let go, you’ll have some big speed behind you. Thankfully the stability control system will quickly take care of that.

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It’s quite an aggressive system in its action. You can feel it grabbing and taking over, and once it’s done its job, it tosses the car back to you with zero delay. On and off would be a good way to describe it, and although it’s a bit stilted in its delivery, it’s damn effective.

It gives you the confidence, to then wring every last revolution out of the smooth 1.3-litre rotary. Driving this car fast puts you in mind of the Civic Type R we tested a little while back. It’s only really quick when you’re completely dedicated. There’s no effortless, lazy, torquey push like a forced induction or big bore car. Some people really like that.

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For me, the problem is that the chassis and brakes promise so much that you’re left a little underwhelmed by how quick you’re actually going. So we’re left a little wanting. Why? Well, it’s not a race car. Evos and STIs will be cleaning you up on a track.

So is it a tourer then? Hardly. Although the rear seats are cleverly packaged, the knee room is non-existent, despite having head and foot room. You end up sitting with your legs splayed, and that’s with my driving position which sits a little closer to the wheel. Heaven forbid if you like to drive with your seat back a little more – goodbye rear seats. The ride is also too firm to cope with, if you’re viewing it as a tourer.

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Then you’ve got the transmission tunnel that deletes leg space from the front seats. Yep, your legs are pushed away from the middle of the car by a bulge from the firewall which has the carpet separating from it. At least there’s still the tribute to its engine, with the rotor-shaped bonnet imprint, and the triangular gearknob.

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So, it’s a sports car that handles well, but doesn’t really go anywhere quickly. We’re struggling a bit, then, with where it sits in the market. Some people are also turned off with rotary reliability, too, so it’s going to require a dedicated kind of buyer. Considering the $7905 price disparity between the GT and the base model RX-8, will it be hard to justify the asking price? Well, that’s up to the buyer.

It’s a shame, because the RX-8 should be a real contender in this market, it should almost be a benchmark. However, it’s time for Mazda to realise that just having linear response is not enough from a car.

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I like the idea of this car. I really do. I appreciate immensely the thought and logic behind why it was created. I just don’t like the car itself. It’s a bit of fun to thrash around in, sure, and it’s got some quirky features, but as an ownership proposition, we’re just finding it a bit hard to be enamoured by it.

As one of our contributors said to me, “If any car ever needed forced induction….”

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Specifications:

Engine: 1308cc Twin Rotor RENESIS
Power: 170kW @ 8200rpm
Torque: 211Nm @ 5500rpm
Transmission: Six-speed manual
Brakes: Four-wheel disc with ABS, EBA & EBD
Driven Wheels: Rear
Weight: 1379kg
0-100km/h: 6.4 seconds
Top Speed: 250km/h (electronically limited)
Fuel Type: 95RON Unleaded
Fuel Tank Capacity: 65 litres
Fuel Consumption: 12.9 litres per 100km (Combined)
Safety: DSC with TCS, front, side & curtain airbags
Spare Wheel: Space saver
Turning Circle: 10.6 metres
Warranty: 3 years/unlimited kms


 
  • technofreak

    no boost, no deal :(

    • L0u15

      I REKON no boost no way

  • Casey

    Nice to see a Mazda on the pages again. It’s been a while!
    Keep ‘em coming boys.

  • derek domino

    your right techno , strap on a turbo , give those cool looks some urgency .

  • Joe

    I definitely agree with the idea of a turbo. I think if Mazda want to make a true ‘driver’s car’ with the RX-8, they need to go all the way with it.

    Put the car on a diet, put lighter weight components where possible and then whack a big turbo in there. Actually a TT would probably work even better. The lack of urgency the whole way through the rev range would justify it IMO.

    Of course if they need to raise the price too much they’ll then fall into a trap of who is going to pay that much for a Mazda, especially one that (as the article said) will likely have reliability problems.

  • Kyle

    They don’t need it to be a tein turbo. That’s just all marketing fluff. Single turbo techinology is far more advanced these days making most tt setups redundant. It’s already a light package compared to it’s competition with a perfect 50/50 weight distribution. They need to either hang a small turbo off it and produce 300hp. Or design a new triple rotor N/A producing 300hp. That would make the RX8 fun again. There is no smoother engine in the world than a rotary. Anyone who has driven one would know that. They like a rev and rev fast. Key ingrediant to any true sports car feeling is a nice revvy engine. The RX8 has it, just needs more ponies.

  • Kyle

    meant to say “twin turbo” not tein turbo lol

  • Devil666

    Kyle! Problem with a small single turbo: doesn’t quite fix the torque problem. Better off going for the twin turbo setup, for this particular application sequential is probably more beneficial. To be totally honest I don’t follow rotary engine designs much, so I can’t reply to your ‘single turbo’ comment in this context, but in terms of engines in a V or even I6+ configuration, I would not argue with the BMW ’35 engine that has soooo much untapped potential it just is not a laughing matter. Google Juicebox in the context of that engine and you will see some excellent numbers, some of them including mid 4 second runs to 100. I personally am an AMG man, but to see the numbers u can pump out with that engine is just WOW. That said AMG are the torquiest engines i’ve ever laid eyes on. Something Mazda, being Japanese, may not understand…. Its a gutless revvvvvbox. As most Ricer cars are.

  • Devil666

    “However, we’re not a newspaper and we don’t just regurgitate press releases, so here’s how it drives.”

    High five to Karl! Thats the spirit!

  • Devil666

    Kyle again: Sorry mate I got a bit off topic, but my main point was that the twin turbo setup can not only deliver more torque than a single, but in a flatter curve as well for better drivability (generally in sequential setup but parallel applications can find these benefits with enough engineering….). Anyhoo, yes, the RX-8 revs well. Very well. Haven’t driven one but have revved one. 3x better than the (latest) 350Z in terms of response. But no, the one thing that is missing from this engine is certainly not ponies, but a bit of oomph from a torque boost. 210 nm compares to an Astra Twintop 2.2. Not a claim to be boasting nor proud of….

  • Cupid Stunt aka No Name

    Never been tempted by a rotory donk. Yes its pretty quick but it seems you have to thrash it within an inch of it life. Not for me i’d prefer a torquey donk anyday.

  • t

    no boost. no problems.

  • WVB

    Car Advice, I presume you are talking WRX in regard to Subaru made the impreza accessible but unlike mazda, ‘not’ in a good way. Um, you are wrong. The 2nd gen wrx was a technical quantam leap over the original. Better ergo, seats, engine, trans, noise suppress, quality, build, interior, but granted all with that look.
    Anyway, mazda have done pretty well to sustain the rotary engine all these years and make a great chassis. You seem to have written the article having never driven a rotary before. There’s never any torque from an atmo one but like all good sports cars a rotary is only quick when your dedicated……….oh and you’d be an f***ing idiot to fall back on stability control over instinct in any corner. Stability control, invented to gamers alive in the real world.

  • JamesG

    Funky but overpriced!

  • http://ozmazdaclub.com Ozmazdaclub ZB

    The fresh up has kept it in the sales race….great job Mazda

  • http://Antilag.com Joe

    Cupid Stunt aka No Name..

    Anyone who calls an engine a “donk”, is automatically admitting that they will only drive a Ford or Holden V8….so no need to tell us that you would never drive a car with a “rotory donk”

  • Watto_Cobra

    Actually Joe, Cupid Stunt is in England and he prefers small diesels.

    Personally, I prefer to have a good amount of torque and not have to rev the ring out of it.

  • Watto_Cobra

    He lived in Aus for a while, must be where he picked up the term ‘donk’ ;-)

  • http://AustralianCarAdvice The Salesman

    I have always been a fan of the Mazda RX8, it looks great, but, all show and no go…..

  • http://www.littlepixiegifts.com.au Gift-Ed

    I think you’re being a bit harsh on this one.

    My friend has Ltd Ed Rx-8 and I have been lucky enough to both ride and drive in it quite a bit. To my mind it fulfills multiple roles extremely well, and its many attributes aren’t diminished but the ultimate lack of supercar acceleration.

    If you have small children, but want a sports car, you can still have one. Brilliant for those who aren’t prepared to pay big dollars for tarted up cheap hatches.

    It’s a capable, comfortable cruiser, a genuine sports car with superb road holding, a quick car (without being seriously fast in a straight line) and it is a rotary. It is a different design of engine and it has to be driven as such.

    Performance driving is a different technique, but it’s still a damn fine drive.

    Personally I don’t like rotaries. Never have. Although they sound manic when on the boil, I don’t like the drone during everyday driving.

    But it if it is your preference, it’s a fine car to own, no matter what the 0-100 times.

    • Fenno

      Nailed it!

  • Stav

    Awrsome car! All it needs is the right driver!

  • Stevo the Devo

    I remember as a teenager going for a ride in a mates RX-2. Top speed 200kph came up in about half an hour just before the fuel ran out. With skinny 13″ tyres and dodgy handling it’s a miracle we’re still alive today.

    • RX no Torque just action

      Stevo, Stock standard RX-2 in 1972 was 16.9 in the 1/4 with the 13s.

      Pious, why would you change gears 5 times to get to 100 when it will do easy 115 in second?????

      DanMan The only way you would need to replace the engine at 60,000 is if you flogged it from cold and didn’t give it its reward of oil every couple of thousand Kgs.

      I’m happy to pay for the oil and fuel to get to drive my RX8 everday.

  • http://faster DanMan

    Yes a nice car. had one for two weeks in 05. funny how the engine was the weakest link. A ‘normal’ two litre turbo would be sooo much better. the roatary is a dead end technology. I used a tank of fuel in 350 klms… thats pretty bad. and the performance was falcon like… good but when a car looks fast it should be.. plus i would need a new engine at 60,000 klm. I worked at a massive mazda dealership in Brisbane, not going to mention there name.. but they were lucky to sell one a month…

  • http://faster DanMan

    Oh yeah a turbo.. nice to see some garage engineers here.
    1/ the bonnet would melt (it has ‘shock cones’)
    2/ fuel consumption would change from bad to terrible
    3/oil consumption would go to 2 litres per thousand klms
    3/ emissions would not pass euro 5
    4/ price (and insurance) would surpass evo money..
    Mazda aust made one in kingsgrove sydney. Mazspeed head office. Hiroshima laughed…

  • pious

    one of the boys at work has one bought new last year – looks sweet, but we give him heaps that he has to change gears 5 times to get to 100 in 6.5 secs. What surprised us all is that the rotaries chew oil like anything – about a litre every 4 tanks of petrol, and that is for a brand new car.

  • http://www.littlepixiegifts.com.au Gift-Ed

    Pious – they use heaps of oil to begin with, but less as they bed in.

  • http://www.sigma-galant.com Fabio Caris

    Forget the turbo idea, just add another rotor and make it a 3 rotor!! Imagine a 20B Renesis!! More power, more torque and not as much more fuel consumption as a turbo version!! Plus it would sound so much better… Just listen to any http://www.pacperformance.com.au street or drag car with a 20B 3rotor engine!!

  • GTRmon

    I like this car, but have always found it a disappointment following on the heels of the RX-7. The RX-7 was and still is an awesome car. The RX-8 is too “real estate agent” to be a hard out sports car.

    DanMan, I wouldn’t say rotaries are a dead end technology wise. Extremely light and small package with high power outputs. Main problem they’ve always faced is one of lubrication.

  • riceboy

    good on Mazda for sticking with something unique…

  • http://faster DanMan

    Well why is lubrication such a problem? Thats like saying death is caused by a lack of oxygen.. Yes Chatter marks are a problem but the biggie is thermal efficency.. Everything leads on from there. Basically there are more advantages to pistons, more of the time, for most people…
    there is a reason why no one else has followed..

  • http://www.sigma-galant.com Nemesis

    The reason others haven’t followed was the apex seal problem. Nothing to do with thermal efficiency. Go back to your dinosaur-age piston engine and don’t knock the rotary engine, which is the only new engine of the 20th century!!!

    (yes I’m a die hard rotary fan and will gladly beat you and your piston engined car any time!! see you at the track!!)

  • Falcodore

    Mazda are using the rotary for their hydrogen fuel trials because they’ve found its better than a piston engine, hardly redundant technology.

  • yamum

    They should have put some racing inspired trims on the inside such as Carbon Fibre. and why not a fake rollcage in the back like 2 carbon fibre bars behind the back seats ?

    like the Porsche GT3RS !

  • Fenno

    As an owner of an’04 RX8 I would say this to you people out there that knock this car – Morons.
    My 04 gets me looks everywhere I go. I dont feel like a bogan (as one does in an import) in it, nor a pretentious brand owner(euro dross). It handles better than anything I have driven under 100k (and that’s a fair bit in my line of work) but is not a car that relies on it’s 0-100 or 1/4 mile times to achieve the result. It’s the whole package. For those who complain about the lack of torque…buy a V8. I’ve never been left feeling like it needs more power (on the road or the track) as the balance is perfect and believe me, if you saw me in your taillights on a twisty road, you wont be getting away in anything too quickly.
    I have driven a turbo’d version, a supercharged version and a ecu tuned version and can say that turbo’d RX8 is unbalanced, a supercharged version or an ecu re-write is a much better proposition.
    It’s a different car to drive than what most people expect and doesnt reward hamfisted WRX/HSV drivers in any way whatsoever.
    The funny thing is that half of the afore-mentioned ‘knockers’ of this car have never even driven one.
    So please…stick to your Excel’s with WRX bonnet scoops or SV6′s with the badges removed.

  • G Easton

    ^^ Fenno is right on the money. I didnt even consider an RX8 b/c of the low tourqe rating of 160lb/ft, I mean that seemed low like a Honda S2000 with its 138lb/ft. But you know what once the tires stop spinning and you are moving it is horsepower that takes over and moves you down the road. Back to the Honda, Yes it revs to 8000rpm but as a piston engine it sounds like its going to implode at those rpms and takes longer to rev up past 7k than the rotary. The rotary is so smooth it feels the same at 3000rpms as it does at 9000rpms its just louder, it only has 3 moving parts after all. At 5.9 sec to 60 and a 14.2-14.4 in the 1/4 mi. this car is not slow and once you hit a turn this car leaves everything in its price range. I also drove the Nissan 350Z w/ a S2000 but niether had the combination of handling, ride, interior quality, exterior style, and overall smiles per mile the RX has. The 350 has no sunroof, the S2000 no hardtop and niether has rear seats and both cars hurt my kidneys over large bumps. I can live with the extra second it takes me to get to 60mph vs. alot of other cars but would find it harder to live with the day to day trade-offs and shortcomings of any other car in its class when it comes to refinement, handling, interior and exterior looks. There is nothing else like the RX out there, hats off to Mazda.

  • ASH8

    Rotaries are designed and meant to use a little engine oil, that will NEVER change, it is not a fault of the car or engine.

    “ALL Show and No GO”???UHH…
    Top Gear UK had a 2004 RX-8 time their track in 1 min 31.08sec, the same as a BMW M3, Nissan 350Z, Holden V8 Monaro.
    Yes, it is not blisteringly fast in a straight line,BUT, it out handles every car in its price range and better than many so called exotics.

    The RX-8 has a Brilliant RWD chassis, and is value for money, even today (2008) there is still not a sports car that comes close to it with features and OVERALL performance.

    BTW, You will never see a factory Turbo rotary again, just remember the extra $6000.00 it would add onto the price.
    The 13B RENESIS is only 28HP down on the last 13B REW RX-7 twin turbo.
    If the RX-8 was 200 kilo’s lighter it would be the fasted twin rotor made by Mazda.

  • Revolver

    DanMan said as follows:

    Oh yeah a turbo.. nice to see some garage engineers here.
    1/ the bonnet would melt (it has ’shock cones’)
    2/ fuel consumption would change from bad to terrible
    3/oil consumption would go to 2 litres per thousand klms
    3/ emissions would not pass euro 5
    4/ price (and insurance) would surpass evo money..
    Mazda aust made one in kingsgrove sydney. Mazspeed head office. Hiroshima laughed…

    Well Danny, I’d suggest before slagging off others you acquire some knowledge of your own. I know of quite a few turboed RX8s and to answer your assumptions:

    1/ Um, no – although some fit a vented bonnet, plenty have retained the stock bonnet with no heat damage, including track use.
    2/ Funnily enough, some haven’t noticed any change in fuel consumption in regular driving. And despite reports to the contrary, even stock this car is only marginally thirstier than other cars with similar performance (unless you pay megabucks for Porsche technology, etc).
    3/ The oil consumption remains pretty constant and is no trouble for those of us who don’t mind checking our car’s fluid levels regularly. After a while, it just becomes a habit and isn’t expensive. I use about 250mls per 1000kms.
    3/ All the turbos I am aware of have been engineered and registered for street use. Go cry to the greenies about anything else.
    4/ Pretty much line ball with Evo money and for that you get a car which is much more liveable day to day and ten times better looking, not too mention better interior quality…the Evo does one thing well, the RX8 does many.

    As for the Mazda Aust version, they had their own reasons for doing it but couldn’t mount a strong enough business case in Australia’s small market. Happens to a lot of skunkwork cars. Doesn’t mean it can’t work.

    Short answer to others – don’t write this car off if you haven’t driven one. 10 minute test drives in suburbia also don’t give too much away about it’s strengths. And does anyone still believe 0-100km/h straight line times are the last word on performance? That’s fine for bogans talking about HSV’s/FPV’s in the local pub but enthusiast drivers look for a whole lot more than that when it comes to choosing a car…

  • http://faster DanMan

    ’3/ emissions would not pass euro 5′
    This is still true… and the real deal killer for mazda.

    Yes but the thermal load under bonnet would still cause issue’s…

    Yeah my bad. I only sold 18 of these in my career with mazda (GP mazda and Centenary mazda in Brisbane) and had a Winning blue RX8 for 2 months with a nice HYMEE exhaust system which i drove down to Kingsgrove in Sydney in to tour the head office and meet Allan Horsley and chat about all things petrol…

    I DONT talk about things unless i am aware of ALL the facts. Amazing yes, but i actually am a jack of a few trades… and a master of same…

  • Mark

    Just bought an RX8 a month ago and its the best car I’ve driven. The more you drive this car the more you love it. Its just wants the revs and corners like no other thing on the road and its fun. The Mazda finish is great so to all those sceptics – get a drive in one and enjoy.

  • whereisv

    I have had a Rx8 for a couple of years now. Absolutely wonderful car to drive. The only draw back is that if you are using for city driving then the car is very very very thirsty… The rotary oil every 2K you drive also gets rather expensive.
    The CD player also is prone to konking out rather easily (especially if you use burnt CDs) and there is an issue with engine mounts, I think this issue is resolved in the newer models. However for the price I would compare the drive against a Z4 and its a lot lot cheaper

  • Rex

    I’ve owned quite a few sports cars in my time and the RX8 is the best car I’ve ever owned. Anyone who thinks it isn’t fast enough has real problems with reality. I sat at 180 on a country road in NSW and it just sat firm on the raod all the way – it wanted more. The handling is fantastic, especially the steering. So I can understand people saying that it doesn’t have a V8, but so what? As for realiability I’ve never had a problem – and that includes oil petrol and everything in between.

  • Olly

    I am a bit late to this thread, but owned an RX8 for 4 years and 100K. Overall experience was very very satisfying. I am not sure were the reliabilty questions come from in the articule above. Mine never missed a beat and I here the same from current the owner. If you like to drive, like to be smooth , like to cover long distances, but, still drive a car with precise handling, that can carry four adults and reasonable luggage, you will get enourmus satisfaction from the RX8. The only reason I am reading this articule, is that I am again considering buying one and want to review what my other options might be? So far it looks like the GT. Fuel is the only negative point I came across, just have to do your summs on that. The oil usage is nothing and if you dont like looking under the bonnet, dont buy any performance car.

  • Steve

    I just purchased a 2004 rx8 with 94,000kms. I have driven a bmw 328ic, mustang gt and bmw 1s turbo. I was at a used car dealership going to buy a mustang gt took an rx8 for a drive and bought it.
    These are hands down key advantages to this car:
    Once you get above 5000 rpm in 1st and know how to drive you can pass a 350z, mustang gt. People have never driven the car that post on here. If you know how to drive a standard and drive the car hard as it was made for its fast. I rev 2nd gear up to 90k before a gear change. When I change the gear 3rd is at 7000′ and its a split second. This is not a slow car by any standards I have been 280kmh in it. My first day I got it I raced a GT500 and was ahead. I love the short shifter and the fact that a rotary is meant to be driven hard and its good for it. I was never a mazda fan and always wanted a black mustang gt but changed my mind when I drove this car. The main downfalls to this car is its much worse on gas than any mustang gt/gt500 v8 or anything I have driven and eats up premium like nothing. I have a rough idleing sound and need to have it checked. (was like that when i bought it) I have been very careful letting it warm up for 5 mins before I drive and cool down. The true fact is that mustang gt’s, 350zs’ gt500s’ rx8s, porsche boxters, stis – shit interior. These are all mid stream cars nothing special in terms of performance. You want a fast car buy a corvette I will be soon. I am sick of hearing about ppl bragging about 350zs their rx8s lancers etc. These are all just ok cars not high performance at all if you want power buy a powerful car. I personally love the rx8 because its the car that makes me feel like I am driving a ferrari. I love the gauges and the steering feeling. As long as you car is stock you are not a ricer and none of these cars are truly high performance cars. However if you plan on purchasing a corvette in the future and can afford the gas an rx8 is a great car to have before. It feels like you’re driving a ferrari and sure is fast enough to get you enough speeding tickets. Rev to 9.5k in second gear and you’re 95kmh in a 60. The gas is just too expensive though in this car I want a corvette but with rx8 steering and the sound of 10000rpms.

    Mustang GT – Normal torque, Poor Top Speed, Normal interior.
    Corvette – High torque, High Top Speed, Normal interior
    RX8 – Low Torque, High Top Speed, Great interior quality (bose sound system)
    Subaru – High Torque – Low Top Speed – Very cheap interior.
    350z – Low torque – Low Top Speed – Very cheap interior.

    I could go on forever because I love cars but all aspects need to be looked at before buying a vehicle not just how fast it is. You’re car isn’t truly fast unless it hits 200mph. If you spend all you’re money to get a subaru, rx8 etc to go that fast then you odviously can’t save you’re money and just buy a corvette, ferrari, lambo used.
    I just love how owners of 350z’s consider their cars to be high performance. Buddy its a standard v6 my dodge caravan engine puts out 250hp lol. If you buy a 350 it should be solely based on you like the looks of the car.
    It doesnt have good handling, interior sucks, cheap steering wheel feel, good sound system though. I actually like the looks of the 350z more than mazda and actually hate mazda because they made the miata. Somehow the rx8 was good enough to get me to buy it instead of a black gt. However I may be wishing I had the mustang if this idleing requires a new 7k rotary from mazda.