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	<title>Comments on: Land Rover’s 60th Anniversary Cross Australia – Second Leg</title>
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		<title>By: Sugar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sugar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Land rover....... Wasn&#039;t paying attention to that......... Now Grant Seamer..... He&#039;s totally hot, how do I get his number!!!! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Land rover&#8230;&#8230;. Wasn&#8217;t paying attention to that&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; Now Grant Seamer&#8230;.. He&#8217;s totally hot, how do I get his number!!!! <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: FrugalOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrugalOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bruce didn’t bother coming out when we arrived at Rabbit Flat&quot;

Typical!

Bruce &quot;The Goose&quot; Farrand is a total nutter, how that French girl got hooked up and stayed with him is one of the world&#039;s great mysteries!

NOT unknown to pull a shotgun on peple that go knocking on his door.....

Rips off people BIG time with prices, opens only limited days and times [his way or no way], sells full strength beer to the abos [illigal], and is as rude as a human as one could be!

Sure he lives in the middle of nowhere, but plenty of others do too, and they act like members of the human race.

Do what all the other savy traveller are doing on the Tanami track, carry enough fuel for the ~950km and give TheGoose TheBird finger when you zoom past and cover him in dust.

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bruce didn’t bother coming out when we arrived at Rabbit Flat&#8221;</p>
<p>Typical!</p>
<p>Bruce &#8220;The Goose&#8221; Farrand is a total nutter, how that French girl got hooked up and stayed with him is one of the world&#8217;s great mysteries!</p>
<p>NOT unknown to pull a shotgun on peple that go knocking on his door&#8230;..</p>
<p>Rips off people BIG time with prices, opens only limited days and times [his way or no way], sells full strength beer to the abos [illigal], and is as rude as a human as one could be!</p>
<p>Sure he lives in the middle of nowhere, but plenty of others do too, and they act like members of the human race.</p>
<p>Do what all the other savy traveller are doing on the Tanami track, carry enough fuel for the ~950km and give TheGoose TheBird finger when you zoom past and cover him in dust.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie Riddle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie Riddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe I found this! Thought id leave a message to say that I am one of the British girls in the photo at Wolfe Creek. Finding this picture has brought back good memorys from that day! Thanks to Ken who posed as the Ozzy Nutter for this pic, its one of my favorite pics from that day. Great guys/team. Monster vehicles!!

Sophie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe I found this! Thought id leave a message to say that I am one of the British girls in the photo at Wolfe Creek. Finding this picture has brought back good memorys from that day! Thanks to Ken who posed as the Ozzy Nutter for this pic, its one of my favorite pics from that day. Great guys/team. Monster vehicles!!</p>
<p>Sophie</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah pretty happy with the X-trail.  Like you said no risk, Nissan are a reasonable brand.

The TL exy comes with leather and sunroof.  We saved 8K, and got a towbar, roofracks, nudge bar, parking sensors, cargo trays etc as well.  The FL2 didn&#039;t have any of this...

The only things the LR had the X-trail didn&#039;t was auto headlights and wipers, and folding mirrors.  
The FL2 SE TD4 didn&#039;t have a sunroof, nor heated seats.  We also would have had to go white, as paint is $1800 extra on the FL2!  Towbar for the FL2 is $1600 or more....

But the FL2 is a nice car, if the budget could have stretched that far, we would have been happy.  The styling on the FL2 is very nice, both inside and out.

Still more than happy with the X-trail, and like you say the resale should be better.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah pretty happy with the X-trail.  Like you said no risk, Nissan are a reasonable brand.</p>
<p>The TL exy comes with leather and sunroof.  We saved 8K, and got a towbar, roofracks, nudge bar, parking sensors, cargo trays etc as well.  The FL2 didn&#8217;t have any of this&#8230;</p>
<p>The only things the LR had the X-trail didn&#8217;t was auto headlights and wipers, and folding mirrors.<br />
The FL2 SE TD4 didn&#8217;t have a sunroof, nor heated seats.  We also would have had to go white, as paint is $1800 extra on the FL2!  Towbar for the FL2 is $1600 or more&#8230;.</p>
<p>But the FL2 is a nice car, if the budget could have stretched that far, we would have been happy.  The styling on the FL2 is very nice, both inside and out.</p>
<p>Still more than happy with the X-trail, and like you say the resale should be better.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine if you spent (you wouldn&#039;t, but hear me out) the difference of 10k that you saved on doing up the xtrail... DVD&#039;s this Reverse camera that, leather the roof! go crazy and you have a much better vehicle than the FL2. The FL2 would drop 10k in 6 months anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if you spent (you wouldn&#8217;t, but hear me out) the difference of 10k that you saved on doing up the xtrail&#8230; DVD&#8217;s this Reverse camera that, leather the roof! go crazy and you have a much better vehicle than the FL2. The FL2 would drop 10k in 6 months anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on.
Right now seems like the &#039;high tide&#039; mark for the brand. Yes the Freelander 2 is good, very good. (notice how the ads for the LR2 had fortune tellers. future not the past)
God knows what TATA will do. India is best know for superb Tea and Cricket and IT and... call centre&#039;s! I dont know of anything in my day to day life that i tangibly &#039;use&#039; that is made there. big risk to spend 45k on a product they own... yes.
You did well with the X-trail a good product! No risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on.<br />
Right now seems like the &#8216;high tide&#8217; mark for the brand. Yes the Freelander 2 is good, very good. (notice how the ads for the LR2 had fortune tellers. future not the past)<br />
God knows what TATA will do. India is best know for superb Tea and Cricket and IT and&#8230; call centre&#8217;s! I dont know of anything in my day to day life that i tangibly &#8216;use&#8217; that is made there. big risk to spend 45k on a product they own&#8230; yes.<br />
You did well with the X-trail a good product! No risk.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough DanMan, but it does seem, at least from the research that I have done before we decided to place an offer for a FL2, that LR are getting better.  

While I agree totally that LR had massive issues in the 90&#039;s, the current crop seem to be better.  Resale seems to have improved with the FreeLander 2, we couldn&#039;t find a second hand one here in WA, and the demos were the same price as the new ones.  The Disco 3 won best 4wd in the Australia Best Cars, which also gives some crediability, well maybe...

Don&#039;t get me wrong, a much as we liked the FL2, they probably aren&#039;t worth the extra cost when compared to a TL X-trail, or Tiguan.

I&#039;m not a LR fanboy, like I said, we ended up buying a Nissan, mostly due to price, but it does seem people here are excessively hard on the new Land Rovers.  Especially, as now that they have been sold to an Indian company(which may mean quality will go down again), the current crop of Ford/Volvo/Jag designed and made vehicles might be the best LRs ever.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough DanMan, but it does seem, at least from the research that I have done before we decided to place an offer for a FL2, that LR are getting better.  </p>
<p>While I agree totally that LR had massive issues in the 90&#8242;s, the current crop seem to be better.  Resale seems to have improved with the FreeLander 2, we couldn&#8217;t find a second hand one here in WA, and the demos were the same price as the new ones.  The Disco 3 won best 4wd in the Australia Best Cars, which also gives some crediability, well maybe&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, a much as we liked the FL2, they probably aren&#8217;t worth the extra cost when compared to a TL X-trail, or Tiguan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a LR fanboy, like I said, we ended up buying a Nissan, mostly due to price, but it does seem people here are excessively hard on the new Land Rovers.  Especially, as now that they have been sold to an Indian company(which may mean quality will go down again), the current crop of Ford/Volvo/Jag designed and made vehicles might be the best LRs ever.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisJ
A good question will I attempt to answer.. deep breath.
you are right to say they have &#039;showroom appeal&#039; They look great and are superficially reliable. however..
Unfortunatly they were probably THE most unreliable cars in the western world in the late ninties. Freelander 1 was even subject to a massive class action lawsuit in the UK. same as the discovery. The workforce got stuffed around by their German and then Ford managers and all the talent left leaving a fearful workforce. This has cast a long shadow in the industry and any salesperon in the car industry would run a mile at the sight of a customer attempting to get out of onw of these. not much sense, but there rarely is with people and cars!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisJ<br />
A good question will I attempt to answer.. deep breath.<br />
you are right to say they have &#8216;showroom appeal&#8217; They look great and are superficially reliable. however..<br />
Unfortunatly they were probably THE most unreliable cars in the western world in the late ninties. Freelander 1 was even subject to a massive class action lawsuit in the UK. same as the discovery. The workforce got stuffed around by their German and then Ford managers and all the talent left leaving a fearful workforce. This has cast a long shadow in the industry and any salesperon in the car industry would run a mile at the sight of a customer attempting to get out of onw of these. not much sense, but there rarely is with people and cars!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone on here hate LR so much?  All cars have their issues, it&#039;s not just LR with make unreliable cars.  I bought a Pug a few years ago, and it spent more time being repaired than on the road.  

We put in an offer on a Freelander 2 last week, as they are lovely cars. The dealer wouldn&#039;t do the deal so we walked. In the end, we decided too not spend over 53K on a softroader, and bought a TL Xtrail.  Happy with the X-trail, and saved almost 10K, but the LR was the nicer car.  Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone on here hate LR so much?  All cars have their issues, it&#8217;s not just LR with make unreliable cars.  I bought a Pug a few years ago, and it spent more time being repaired than on the road.  </p>
<p>We put in an offer on a Freelander 2 last week, as they are lovely cars. The dealer wouldn&#8217;t do the deal so we walked. In the end, we decided too not spend over 53K on a softroader, and bought a TL Xtrail.  Happy with the X-trail, and saved almost 10K, but the LR was the nicer car.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: DanMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New drinking game. every time Disco 3 says &#039;stranded at the cape&#039; you take a drink. 
Everytime he doesn&#039;t use Grammer correctly, you take a drink... hehe
70,000 klmm in 2 years? Hmmm.
Also &#039;the cape&#039; would classify as extreme off road use and the logbook covers this in the warranty section.
Anyway why do i care... enjoy your Disco mate good luck. 
How many range rover service depts in Aust. Not many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New drinking game. every time Disco 3 says &#8216;stranded at the cape&#8217; you take a drink.<br />
Everytime he doesn&#8217;t use Grammer correctly, you take a drink&#8230; hehe<br />
70,000 klmm in 2 years? Hmmm.<br />
Also &#8216;the cape&#8217; would classify as extreme off road use and the logbook covers this in the warranty section.<br />
Anyway why do i care&#8230; enjoy your Disco mate good luck.<br />
How many range rover service depts in Aust. Not many.</p>
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