Really great vehicle, they need this powertrain in a Corolla
Good report too
Makes the commydore and falken look soo out of date.. Well done Toyota, Maybe the next model will also have some better styling to go with this.
Seems like an adequate vehicle for a daily driver who just wants to get from A to B with no hassles. Would fit the needs of an average family.
However is it just me or does it look like the front bumper doesnt fit properly in the first pic? There is a large panel gap between the hood and top of the bumper that makes it look like it was just tacked on in a hurry. It is also noticeable on the (top spec :P) Camry Atara
Its also interesting to note that the camry ‘whitegoods on wheels’ has more power than the new FT86/BRZ “sports car”.
It has a 2.5L vs a 2.0L and is much heavier.. The power to weight ratio of the Toyota 86 / GT 86 and Subaru BRZ is far superior however!
Speculations of a supercharged 86 and turbo brz however have been mentioned.. so keep tuned!
No they haven’t.. there won’t be a 86/BRZ turbo’d/supercharged in the foreseeable future. That’s verbatim from the national sales manager for Aus.. plus its Toyota.. be realistic
Nice to know an American reads an Australian automotive site. You also appear to have a good knowledge of our local Camry models….
Over here in Australia we call a “hood” a “bonnet”, well we used to at least! To us, a hood is the roof/top of a convertible, we also sometimes call the lining of the roof a “hood lining”.
When I sat in the old Camry I thought to my self that anyone who bought this as their own car (a.k.a not fleet) was a total idiot, but after reading about the latest Camry, looking at it and even seeing 2 on the road, I think the new Camry is a worth rival of the Passat, Mondeo, Euro and Liberty. This car (and the 86) just prove that when Toyota pull their heads out of the sand they can actually produce a decent and worthy family car!
You can have a diesel hybrid that would return even better fuel economy statistics. The real issue with hybrid and electric cars though is the battery packs. Large scale production of hybrid cars using lithium battery packs simply isn’t achievable, due to the availability of lithium and the environmental impact mining lithium has. Also it will pump up the price of every other device that uses lithium batteries (phones, laptops, navigation systems etc). Its unfortunate capacitance systems aren’t advanced enough to be suitable as a battery replacement, and be cheaper. Besides that, even the petrol engines in hybrid cars aren’t as advanced as they could be.
That said, it would be a great vehicle for certain people!
But don’t worry about the mining for iron ore, drilling of oil and the impact of them.
Alborz, Did you test the new JBL systems in Toyota? how are they compared to the B&O in the German rivals
Yes I did, the 10 speaker JBL in the Camry HL is pretty good, but no comparison for the B&O (but also no where near as expensive). I am not a huge fan of JBL though, so maybe I am bias. It also depends on what sort of music you listen to.
Hey Alborz… Sorry for harping but I am also very curious about the JBL system. Does it have good bass? Good clarity? Did it distort? I am not sure if you pumped the system much but would love your opinion. It would have to be better than the 6 Speaker system in the old camry/aurion/presara of which I currently own.
Yes, it’s absolutely better than any other Toyota stereo. I only had a few minutes to play with the system and my co driver wasn’t exactly into loud music so didn’t get to have a huge toy with it – however it’s certainly very bass friendly and rather clear at high volume. I have a lot more faith in the B&O systems though, but JBL is still a very formidable brand. If you were going to buy a car just for its stereo, I’d go with the Germans but if you just want to know that it’s good enough, than it certainly is.
its cars like this that will hopefully keep the faith with the buying australian public, and therefore keep car manufacturing in australia
Decent engine output, clean design, nice interior, Toyota reliability … looking good!
Clean design? I like the rear end styling but I have had a good look over a few of these and that lower front end doesn’t work too well imo. It isn’t fully sorted .
Still no Entune (where the display connects to the internet via bluebooth/mobile phone) on the Aussie models? It’s available on the US Camrys.
This car is pretty good.. It’s also quite powerful..
I saw the interior of the new Camry today, and it’s very nice..
LIke every other Toyota, the interior is a thrown together mismatch of materials and styles.
Look at that nasty ’90’s graphic for economy in the dash cluster !
All the graphics have different fonts, styles, sizes and colours.
How about those large areas of silver painted plastic on the console and doors ?
If CA thinks “the interior now sports a fresh, modern and well-contrasted design” – well, you really need to look at other cars…
I am not sure what interior you are looking at but it can’t be the new Camry… I must say when I saw it it looked fantastic. For the price point what more do you want. It actually looks more sophisticated than the Honda Accord’s interior which is starting to look dated. Ad that is saying something as 6 months ago I thought it was the best interior out of all the mid sizers by a long shot.
Have a look at the photo of the instrument cluster.
THREE different fonts used !
Just one example of the hodgepodge Toyota way…
VFACTS classifies the Accord as a large car, and as i have one in the family i tend to agree. The things has Commodore-esque leg room, and comes close on boot space. Id also be happy to wager it drives monumentally better than this generation, or any generation of Camry.
The combined power figure is nothing spectacular but the combined torque is the critical performance factor and more impressive, although I understand that 213 + 270 does not equal 483 in this case.
My experience of NMh and Lithium batteries longevity in laptops is that Toyota are well advised to avoid Lithium as they deteriorate rapidly after the first year.
Toyota say the NMh last 10 years which is pretty reasonable and can be recycled after
The low rolling resistance tyres on the old model were positively dangerous when pressed. Are the new ones better?
I loathed past generations of Camry with a passion, none more so than the blob that was foisted on us two generations ago. And I had two previous models as company cars. Loathsome, punishing things. I still wouldn’t buy one, as they remain strictly middle of the road talent-wise, it seems, but I’d now be as happy as Larry if given one as a company car. And I wouldn’t be embarrassed.
Bleh. If I was interested in a hybrid, I’d be waiting for the 2013 Ford Fusion/Mondeo hybrid. Now there is a good looking car. But I’m not looking for a hybrid, so I’ll take the 2.0L EcoBoost AWD model instead, thanks! Please Ford, don’t take forever to bring it here….
It wont come here as there is not enough demand. They wouldnt be able to make a business case for it.
If you worry about hybrid battery this is what Honda said when released the new Insight.
“Honda says its battery pack should be good for around 15 years of
regular use, equating to roughly 240,000km on the odometer. For extra peace of mind, the battery is warranted for eight years with no kilometre limit.
Should it need to be replaced outside of the warranty, a new battery will cost $1875. A full 98% of the old battery (a nickel-metal hydride unit) is recyclable.”
What happens if the inverter fails outside of warranty? Got a spare $5k kicking around? I’d be more comfortable if the battery warranty extended to the inverter. Still a replacement battery is cheaper than a non warrantable DPF on a diesel!
Can anyone at car advice tell me where the battery is located in this model? The previous version had the battery in the boot compromising its practicality. When you factor in not being able to fit a towbar, it makes for an unappealing proposition.
I’d consider one if I could fit a towbar, the battery was underneath the car, Toyota applied the 8 yr battery warranty to the inverter and you could buy a wagon body style. For now a worthy effort… But still a science experiment.
These can have a tow bar fitted, and the battery is in the boot but it’s far better packaged this time round…
Good to hear you can have a towbar. The battery in the boot is simply idiotic… It should be under the car.
If they could work out how to put it under the car I am sure they would have… Its all to do with reliability I would assume.
You are right… Still, room for improvement… Maybe for the next generation of Camry?
Thats where the spare wheel, exhaust and fuel tank go.
IMO the hybrid models will always have lower resale value than the non-hybrid models and it is not because of the public do not know what are hybrids. If I was in the market for a 5-10yr old second hand car, I’d go for a non-hybrid even if I’ve got to pay more. It is because they hybrids are more complex and there are more things to go wrong. The big batteries are consumable items and cost a few grands to replace (got to be careful replacing it as well as they are 300V-500V batteries and not 12V). Most of the mechanics apart from the dealers do not know how to or have the tools to repair hybrids, it’s got to go to the dealers which charge $$.
Spot on. I would not consider a hybrid due to thieir appalling depreciation… What ever you save in petrol you will lose in depreciation.
That’s why you buy them as a lightly used demo, when the depreciation hit has already taken its toll.
Good theory.., my brother in law did this with a Prius… Now that it’s close to the end of its battery warranty it is virtually worthless.
Were you looking at striking rich buying a car?
Still better resale than a commode or falcon
This is one of the not too many Toyotas i want to buy. The price is also good.
Honestly, the first thing i thought of when I saw my first 2012 Camry on the road was that the Tail lights looked like an updated Epica……. Seriously…
Guess the Govco Drive cars will have a sharp edged style now.
Shape will make ot easier to sticker up for Taxi use, wonder if they will still get the huge taxi discount???
…how about a hybrid Kluger now?
Like to test drive the all new Camry Hybrid contact Mark from South Morang Toyota on 94078000
Toyota are hopeless. A week after the new Hybrid’s gone on sale, and they still haven’t updated their website with the new model. Wouldn’t you think they’d have people working on the new website, you know, maybe in advance *before* the car is launched?!
I agree with you 100%! I checked the Toyota website few weeks ago and just 2 min ago and still the old Camry Hybrid is there. Toyota poor website!!
Toyota are pathetic – they’re only interesting in serving their fleet customers and treat private buyers 2nd rate. Fleets don’t care about fancy websites so why should we bother updating the Camry Hybrid site for another few months? They also engage in false advertising on their website (such as the 360 degree view of the Corolla). Look for yourself and you’ll see what I mean.
Have anyone looked at the price of fuel lately ($1.50/litre)? Hybrid vs Diesel – no brainer here as price of diesel is $1.60-1.70/litre.
Toyota has done it again! They have made a car that customers actually want. An average sized car, affordable, cheap to run and maintain and THE MOST important criteria of all- efficient. And as an additional bonus it’s a toyota so it’s reliable. And it looks fantastic, both inside and out. The interior is superb! GM Holden and Ford could learn a thing or two from them. I’ve long been a commodore lover and didn’t mind falcons too much either but they’re looking more and more like dinosaurs getting closer and close to extinction. My next car (in a couple of years) will definitely be a hybrid Camry- I think it’s safe to say that the “white goods on wheels” mantra can finally be thrown away. Well done Toyota.
Id still take the EcoLPI falcon. Cost to travel the same distance would be a bit more in the Falcon and its made and designed in Australian – winner in my books.
Im sure this car is great…I just prefer to support AU industry.
There seems to be a fair bit of hate up there.. but I have spent a lot of time in a lot of different cars and the Camry HL (hybrid luxury) is one of the most luxurious and comfortable cars in the sector. The fuel economy out of it rivals any diesel. It’s lovely.
i agree- i drove the luxury hybrid today – It was absolutely lovely inside and it had every dadget you could think of, and the drive was as smooth as a babys bum