Comments on: Holden exports to Korea GM-Daewoo Veritas

By: alloyvee

alloyvee — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:53:53 +0000

Why send our Aussie garbage over to Sth Korea. They have enough problems with there auto market without getting junk like this!!

By: Duck

Duck — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:37:55 +0000

Holden does not get wood grain for Statesman or Caprice do they?

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:31:46 +0000

wheelnut,
have you even tried the ergonomics of it before.

i mean, as a real life example,
you are just leaving (lets say a mates place), and you open your door and start your car before you even sit in it.
at that point you are on the inside of your door, but standing up leaning outwards saying your last words/goodbyes.
as soon as you start your car you want the windows down.

and if you are on the way out of your car, you can open the door, put the windows up and be getting out in the one motion, rather than having to be seated till the windows are up.
my current falcon has a time delay on the windows of around 30 secs which makes it easier too.

have you ever tried leaning over to the centre console without having to actually seat your self in the vehicle??
its no good for fit people let alone if you have a bad back.

i find the ergonomics of them on the door far better and i doubt you will find an “ergonomics professor” that will evaluate it to be the otherway.

on another note,
you must have your new rig by now hey??

By: phillip

phillip — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:58:44 +0000

But I’d bet the farm that for the next all-new model Holden will follow all other manufacturers in putting the switches on the door. They’re just a little slow, that’s all.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:05:42 +0000

The other thing is that no matter if the controls are on the armrest or centre console; you’re still going to have to open the door wie enough so that you can put the key in the ignition – then either twist around to push the button on the armrest or lean over to push the button on the console…

Some cars [ike golfies] have it the windows go up via either remote control or after a time delay once the ignition is switched off.. otherwise you can install a Rhino car alarm which will do the same thing

By: Golfschwein

Golfschwein — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:17:23 +0000

Hey Andrew M, to close the Golf’s windows and sunroof, I need only hold down the lock button on my remote. From 10 metres away, if I wish. Boo yah hiss! :)

By: Garage Man

Garage Man — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:24:43 +0000

Veritas…sounds like a name for some sort of taco

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:57:00 +0000

Andrew M: I’m just going by what my mates at the factory have told me.

As for not having to reach into the car to put the windows up or down.. If the windows are up; you’re going to have to open the door to put them down; and if the windows are down you’re still going to have to open the door to put them up that is unless you want to decapitate yourself..
so it’s not really going to take that much effort to reach across and push a button now is it?

Having said that my 02 Subaru Imptreza RS has the master controls for the windows on the drivers door.. so it just depends on what you’re used to I guess

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:34:58 +0000

Wheelnut,
surely the switches in the centre has nothing to do with LHD/RHD compatibility.
if they are on the arm,
they need not replace the entire door insert, but rather just swap which side they put the trim that has more holes in it, from the drivers arm rest, to the passengers.
the door insert isnt one piece. there is a little trim plate around the door switches which could be universal (not handed).

Golfie,
i myself would prefer them on the door because it means you dont have to climb right into your vehicle to put the windows up or down

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:11:26 +0000

Having the power/electric window controls is done again to save costs as they don’t need to have both a LHD and a RHD door insert with the switches etc on them for local and export versions of both the commodore and the Statesman
besides the controls have been centrally located in every model commodore since the VN so you should have gotten used to them by now.

By: Golfschwein

Golfschwein — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:01:56 +0000

I don’t understand the ill-feeling towards the window switches being in the centre console. It seems perfectly ergonomic to me.

By: phillip

phillip — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:02:11 +0000

I agree, it looks cheap and nasty from the front, which means the Korean’s will love it.

I see from the interior photo that Holden still have their electric windows switches on the console. In 2008? They must be about the last maker still doing this, no?

By: Reckless1

Reckless1 — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:16:29 +0000

o Says:
September 5th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
the front looks really korean.like

Gee, O, perhaps Holden has worked out its target market and has designed the car to appeal to ……wait for it……KOREAN TASTES.

Plenty have said it – Holden’s marketing is way above average.

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:43:51 +0000

I believe that the luxury items found on all Holdens export models will eventually find their way into the local versions mainly as it reduces costs.

For instance when the Monaro was exported to the states USA Design regulations stipulated that the fuel tank must be located in a different place to that of the Aussie Version therefore; to reduce costs the changes were made to both models and the fuel filler door was moved a bit higher up from just above the rear wheel arch to the top of the rear 1/4 panel at the apex of the C pillar

So apart from the dash be it LHD or RHD both cars were pretty much the same

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:36:33 +0000

“Veritas” is Latin for Truth – what Truth has got to do with the Statesmen.. so I don’t know

By: Watto_Cobra

Watto_Cobra — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:39:30 +0000

Well done Holden for continuing to explore export markets. Surely a flash Holden will be released here with the same gear as this unfortunately named ‘Veritas’

I wish Mullaly and his predecessor had the same foresight as Lutz, and use FordOZ’s RWD expertise like GM has used Holdens.

By: Sam

Sam — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:06:49 +0000

Veritas eh? What a crap name for a car

By: Drw009

Drw009 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:15:40 +0000

Mercedes Benz called- they want their grill back

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:01:18 +0000

maybe the koreans will see how to actually design a car.

once they get this, then perhaps the korean publics expectations may increase and hence the small car range they send here may improve………

By: ultimatefarmer

ultimatefarmer — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:51:14 +0000

good on ya holden