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2008 Lexus RX 400h review

By Alborz Fallah |

2008 Lexus RX 400h review & road test

Lexus RX400h

Model Tested:

  • 2008 Lexus RX 400h – $97,545 (RRP)

plus.jpg Fuel economy, build quality, hybrid system, interior comfort

minus.jpg Looking a little dated, hybrid system, premium over RX350, E-CVT transmission

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- by Alborz Fallah

“The RX400h?” – “What, you want me to drive the RX400h? Are you serious? You know what I think of hybrids!“ That was the conversation I had with our editor moments before he organised a Lexus RX 400h for me to review.

I didn’t really know what to expect, I like the RX series from Lexus, I think it provides a good alternative to the Germans, but a hybrid variant? This was going to be an interesting week.

Lexus RX400h

You see, the problem with current generation hybrids isn’t so much the idea, or perhaps even the implementation. It’s more the pre-thought that goes into buying such a car.

“Honey, what do you think of a Hybrid?” – “I know the neighbours will look down at us if we buy a big SUV so why don’t we buy a Hybrid one? You know, save on fuel and save the planet …”

Okay, that makes sense. Buy a hybrid, not only can you tell all your friends at dinner parties, but it also makes you feel just a little better about driving around. “I drive a hybrid”… go on, say it. I drive a hybrid. It does have a nice ring to it doesn’t it? If you want to take it one step further, you can even put stickers on the back, “Prius owners club” being one I see regularly.

Lexus RX400h

I’d like to know what a bunch of people do at monthly Prius owners club meetings? Do they sit around and work out how much CO2 they have saved by driving around in their hybrid cars? Or maybe they sit around and remind each other they are all going to heaven because over the course of the past 12 months, they have managed to kill one less fluffy animal?

Lexus RX400h

My point is simple, hybrid cars are a great idea and Toyota and Lexus should be congratulated for their achievements in hybrid technology, but, if the premium for a hybrid car is significant and the fuel savings are not economically viable, why exactly do smart, hard working, upper middle-class families part with their hard earned cash for one?

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Simple. It makes them feel good. Plus, and probably more importantly, because the RX 400h, is actually not all that bad. But before I get into how the car drives and behaves, let’s got some of the dirty work out of the way.

Lexus RX400h

The all important figure. The 3.3-litre engine from the RX 330 of old is mated to three electric motors, effectively producing more than 200kW of power, but managing only 8.1L/100km. During the week long test that figure was inflated to 8.7L/100km, which is well and truly still acceptable.

Lexus RX400h

The hybrid system works by one electric motor up front helping the petrol engine to drive the front wheels. A second electric motor driving the rear wheels (without input from the petrol engine), while a third generates charge to the battery.

Lexus RX400h engine

The RX400h, demands a $10,000 premium over the equivalent RX 350 which delivers similar power but a fuel consumption of 11.2L/100km.

Lexus RX400h

The RX 400h is based on the RX 350 Sports Luxury ($87,000) but also comes with Vehicle Dynamics integrated Management (VDiM), driver and front-passenger seat heaters, leather-bound steering wheel (in lieu of woodgrain) and metallic trim on the shift lever, shift lever gate, centre console, rear centre armrest and inside door trim (all in lieu of woodgrain).

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No doubt most of that $10K goes into the hybrid system, but the VdiM is also worthy of a mention as it directs the rear electric motor to provide torque to the rear wheels to maintain vehicle stability.

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If one was to do the maths, the RX 350 uses 11.2L/100km while the RX400h uses 8.1L/100km. On average, a normal family would travel about 25,000 kilometres a year. The benefit of course, is that the RX 400h can make do with 91 RON fuel, while the 3.5-litre in the RX350 needs 95 RON. So let’s do the maths.

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The RX 350 will use 2800 litres of 95RON fuel a year, the RX 400h will use 2025 of 91RON fuel. That’s a saving of 775 litres per year. At a cost of $1.55 a litre for 95RON, the RX 350 will cost $4340 while at a cost of $1.50/L for 91RON, the RX400h will manage on just $3037.5. A saving of about $1300 a year.

Lexus RX400h interior

Given the $10,000 price difference between the two for essentially just the hybrid system, you will need at least seven years before you can recoup the costs. Is it worth it?

Sure, you can argue the RX 400h manages CO2 emissions at a low 192g/km. While the RX 350 is significantly more at 263g/km, but lets be honest here. Does that really matter?

I am not trying to talk you out of buying a Lexus RX series, just trying to talk you into an RX350 instead and save you a cool $10,000.

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Comfort wise the RX400h is a great SUV. It’s comfortable to sit in, smooth over even the harshest roads, provides an excellent driving position and comes with all the features you’d expect in a Lexus without the need to tick any options (not that you could, because there aren’t any).

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However if you look past the luxury features and the comfortable ride, the car, in it self, is starting to show its age. The RX series has been around since 2003 and to the untrained eye, it hasn’t changed all that much.

Then there is the drivetrain. Having one petrol and three electric motors sounds like a great idea, and if you stare at the energy monitor long enough you are all but convinced. But take a closer look and you’ll see the periods in which the electric motors are working without the help of the petrol motor are few.

Lexus RX400h

The biggest benefit of the hybrid system is driving under 30km/h. First timers will turn the car on, then attempt to turn the car on again, and again. You see, it makes no noise whatsoever, because the petrol motor is still switched off. All you’ve done is turn on the silent electric motors.

Drive out of your drive way and you’ll be quietest neighbour around till you hit around 30km/h. The technology will prove most useful in start-stop traffic conditions when the electric motors will take control and save you precious fuel.

My biggest disagreement with the RX400h is the transmission. Using an Electronically Controlled Continuously Variable Transmission (E-CVT) to allow the petrol and electric motors to work as one, acceleration feels sluggish and downright slow at times.

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There are benefits of course, for a start it helps the fuel consumption and unlike a normal transmission, E-CVT doesn’t need to change gears, so acceleration is linear without any jolts.

Lexus RX400h

Inside the cabin you’re greeted with pretty much everything you’d expect. Heated seats, a sophisticated computer system which incorporates satellite navigation, energy monitor, servicing system and much more. The RX400h also comes with a sun roof and enough space to easily transport four grown adults and their luggage in comfort.

Lexus RX400h

Rear seats are on par with the Germans while the quality and finish of the cabin is second to none. Although I do have to criticise the need for a cassette tape deck in 2008?

Lexus RX400h

Lexus has also ensured that all are aware the RX400h is a hybrid, with subtle but still clearly visible hybrid badging around the car. All badges and scuff plates, in common with all Lexus hybrids, are done in light blue, to signify electric power.

Safety is also paramount with dual front, side and curtain airbags as standard, plus a much needed rear view camera fitted as well.  Other notable safety features include four-channel, four-sensor ABS braking with Brake Assist (BA).

Back to the question I asked earlier, is paying $10,000 more for something that will take you at least six to seven years to recoup the expense worth it? Fortunately, I don’t have to answer that question.

Lexus RX400h

If you’re interested in a luxury SUV, for the price the RX350 is the pick of the bunch and arguably the best on the market. However if hybrid still sounds like an “in-word” to you, the RX400h is worth a look.

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Specifications:

  • Engine: 3.3-litre, six-cylinder + 3 electric motors
  • Power: 155kW Petrol, together with electric = 200kW
  • Torque: 288Nm @ 4400 rpm (petrol only)
  • Transmission: Electronically Controlled Continuously Variable Transmission (E-CVT
  • Top Speed: 240km/h
  • Fuel Consumption: 8.1 litres/100km (Combined)
  • Fuel Tank Capacity: 65 litres
  • Fuel Type: 91RON petrol
  • Airbags: Front, Side, Seat & Curtain
  • Safety: ABS, Front & Side airbags, rear view camera
  • Weight: 1970kg (tare)

 
  • Twilight

    i love the RX series. ever since they were released i’ve wanted one, and now i want the Hybrid. haha. but not just coz of all the savings n stuff, but it looks much better than the non hyrbid models with its grill and wheels n such.

    love it, and cant wait for the new generation to be shown later this year/early next year.

    great review =]

  • weirluo

    if you really want a luxury SUV, get a used X5 E53 3.0 Diesel, do a test drive and see what happens

  • Jake02

    yeah i have relatively liked the RX-series too but i cant see why the RX400h is ten grand over the RX350 when the GS450h is CHEAPER than the GS460. Strange.
    Also star rating is mixed up – it says 2 1/2 instead of 3 3/4.

  • sco

    clarification on the interior, the RX400h now has a partial woodgrain and leather wheel like the RX350.
    acceleration may feel slow, but it is just as quick as similarly powered rivals.
    one thing you neglect to mention in your review is the cost of ownership being relatively low to its competitors.
    and in recouping your $10k premium over the RX350, you forget the stronger resale of the RX400h due to its “green” credentials

  • milobob

    and the excellent customer service satisfaction from Lexus :D

  • Camski

    Milobob you have no idea how good their after sales services are. Free courtesy car, car wash, delivery and pickup of your car WITH a free courtesy car etc etc. And might i add, you can talk your dealer into giving you a car you’d like to take as your courtesy car (IS-F anyone? lol)

    Might I add that the RX400h is faster than the RX330.

    This is coming from an IS250 and RX330 owner =)

  • Revhed

    I totally agree with Sco here – you need to take into consideration the resale value and not just the initial differences in retail price when discussing costs.

  • Tom

    How can hybrid system be both a positive and a negative? Without explanation. If the hybrid is only 10 grand more, it seems worth it too me, particularly in europe were they get benefits for driving hybrid vehicles.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ alborz

    Yes the cost of ownership may be lower. The point I was trying to make here was the RX series is a great car, however, go for the RX350 as it presents better value for money.

    As for resale value due to its green credentials, that is highly debatable given the next generation hybrid cars are only around the corner, and may put the RX400h to shame very soon. Making the current technology seem someone obsolete

    And the hybrid system is both a plus and minus. Plus – because of its ability to power the car at slow speeds and fuel economy in general, and a minus due to its 10g additional cost.

  • Nick

    I think Alborz Fallah misses the point.

    1st point. It is a Lexus.. so 10k to people who buy a Lexus does not matter. People who buy a Lexus hybrid are making a statement that they are using there money to look after the enviornemt.
    2nd Point. If you have a bias against Hybrid vehicles you should try to standardise your ratings.
    3rd Point. You go into the maths of petrol savings..Why? If the buyer wanted to save money they would buy a Prius?

  • Stevo the Devo

    Now the toddlers won’t even hear it coming as mum backs out the driveway.

  • riceboy

    I don’t think RX buyers would necessarily not care about petrol cost savings… as a lot of luxury SUV buyers pick diesel for the same reason… I for one chose petrol over diesel for my 45K hatch because of performance and it still uses only 10L/100km (rated 8L/100km)…

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/ alborz

    1st point. – That’s definitely a bad assumption. But I do agree with your point that many feel its their due to the environment

    2nd Point. I don’t have a bias against hybrid or electric vehicles, but I do have a bias against vehicles that are riding on the green wave with little validity

    3rd Point. RX buyers are not in the same market as Prius buyers.

    As i said, I would have no hesitation recommending the RX350 – it’s a great car.

  • Fenno

    I agree with Alborz. The 400h is a nice car but 10k is still a lot of money (regardless of the socio-economics).
    And Riceboy’s logic (of buying the petrol over the diesel) backs the math that Alborz presented; the intial cost for most will outweigh any benefits of alternate motive power.

    In most cases readers out there should do any comparison themselves using Alborz’ formula. Resale isnt a factor if you keep the car longer than 4 years anyway. Servicing a more expensive hybrid/diesel category is something people tend to forget.

  • Mat

    I would add that the less CO2 emissions is a mighty good thing… to say it is not is flagrant disregard for environmental benefits. If you can have same performance, cheaper long term running costs and produce less emissions to boot then why not? Better for now and the future.

    Oh and steve… that is why it has a reversing camera and sensors…. standard.

  • Realcars

    100k for a car and u talk resale?WTF.

    Agree next generation Hybrid is going to make this look a bit sad given that the current tech is 10 years old.

    If image is more important than substance buy the Hybrid.

  • Neil

    Hybrid’s are more than likely (whether we want them to be or not) the way car’s are headed for the future…but what’s the real enviromental benefit?

    What about the extra pollution created in the production of the battery as well as all the additional parts, or the toxic waste left over after the car comes to the end of its life?
    Hybrid’s are a great idea (as are GM’s new E-Flex car’s), but lets not get too carried away

    PS: lets hope the next RX is every bit as good as this one – X5 is a bit too big really

  • icejagans

    rx350 is good enough.

    the hybrid would only be useful in the cbd.

    I mean if you do highway driving the 3 electric motors are useless so there would be no gain. Better yet get a diesel

  • Kris

    I have not been able to find info on how effective the hybrid system is out of town.. Most testers say they are best in town – but if you do country trips in a 440h, how would it go on consumption compared to 330.. Anyone know??

  • timeforchange

    what a weird review.
    To talk about the CO2 emissions and then ask ‘Does it really matter’ is ridiculous.
    Yes it does matter if then next geration or the one after them has a habitable planet left to them.
    I am a fan of the RX350, but have found that my friends that have them are scared of the real world city fuel comsumption often averaging 16-18l/100km around town.
    It is exactly these city conditions where the hybid will shine with its electric motors taking over from the petrol engine. As most of these luxury SUVs are only city runabouts the real world fuel saving will probably recoup the $10 000 premium in more like 4 years than the 8 years suggested, the addition resale (and they will be worth more despite the dodgy suggestion of the reviewer)would then be yours to pocket.
    Personally I am not yet convinced that petrol hybrids are the long term solution to our planets woes, but they are here and NOW and are a damn good start.
    If every SUV could halve its polution around the city we would all have cleaner air to breath.

    YES IT DOES MATTER!

  • andre

    Just don’t get it…. drove it – couldn’t get used to the unpredictable throttle response… seems variable power available….. great enviro marketing plot from the company that brings you the Landcruiser…..

    Check out youtube – Top Gear – S-Class – Clarkson and you’ll find the S-Class V8 is more enviro friendly than the Prius! –

    Oh and no Cargo barrier available…. ridiculous…

  • /www.caradvice.com.au/16182/2008-lexus-rx400h-review/5/ Hans

    I’m with you timeforchange. Of course it C02 emissions matter.

    You can’t compare petrol to diesel. And since Lexus don’t do diesel there is no comparison.

    As for Clarkson and his s-class v8…. this is the same guy who published his bank account and other personal details and said no-one can take money out of his account… well he was proven wrong wasn’t he? Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s great as a comedian but when it comes to making objective unbiased comments…. I don’t think so.

  • Michalis

    One the greatest cars ever!!

    The review is ridiculous…
    and biased

  • Trudi Counsell

    I have the 400h and it’s the BEST car I have ever owned! I can’t wait to trade up in a few years to the 450H! I save Hundreds of dollars a month in fuel costs and it is fantastically appointed. I’ve previously had a Volvo XC-90 and Mercedes ML and the Lexus has it over them WELL and TRULY! Who wants and X5 anyway – ANYONE can have one of those…give me my Lexus 400h everytime!

  • Nat Redgrave

    i totally agree trudi i own a Rx350 and am currently in the point of upgrading to the 450h and lexus is the best car i have ever one with the best customer service and for the point of bmw and merc who would want one they have no customer service your just a number at lexus your a friend of the family they are just the best most luxurious cars around and i wouldnt be seen in anything else