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Datsun’s revival looking likely

By Alborz Fallah |

We’ve mentioned the return of Datsun a few times in the last year, but a new report from Japan’s Nikkei newspaper seems to suggest the project has now been given the green light.

The idea is simple, use the Nissan brand for normal models in the developed world (where Infiniti is the luxury platform sitting above) while employing the Datsun brand for ultra-affordable vehicles in the developing world.

The Japanese report suggests the first of the new Datsun vehicles will be priced around 500,000 yen ($5,700) and go on sale in India, Indonesia, Russia and potentially other emerging markets. Cheaper models are expected to follow with requirements tailored to the developing nations.

The history of Datsun is a rather colourful one, with the brand’s name still top-of-mind in many parts of the world. The Japanese giant spent a reported USD $500 million ($465 million) back in the early 80s to initially tell the world that Nissan and Datsun were the same company and eventually that it would no longer be using the Datsun name. Five years after the name change program ended in 1986, the Datsun brand was still better recognised in the United States than Nissan.

So whilst some emerging brands struggle for recognition, it seemed that Nissan had the opposite problem with Datsun. If the report is accurate, and we have little reason to think otherwise, Datsun’s revival will be yet another back-from-the-grave story following the Toyota 86 and soon to be released Dodge Dart.

Although very unlikely for Australia any time soon (if ever), Datsun fans are still aplenty here. Would you like to see Datsun return as a contender in the low-end segment? Perhaps to take on the array of incoming Chinese brands?


 
  • Godzilla

    It is not April 1st yet.

  • MisterZed

    When did Datsun disappear… 1984 wasn’t it?  I saw a car the other day – Datsun Pulsar but also had Nissan badges.  Don’t see many around anymore.

  • JHP

    wow… who… the… heck… cares…???

  • save it for the track

    Datsun Nissan Pulsar Exa Turbo. I believe was one of the last models to have ‘datsun’ on it. There would be nothing wrong with a Datto 1600 style sedan, or Datsun 240z style coupe with modern components/engines etc., lightweight and RWD. Perhaps way back when Nissan decided on changing the name they could have researched a bit better and simply stuck with Datsun.

  • garl

    yeah, why not,

  • Robin_Graves

    Datsun worked back in the day because the cars were cheap, quite fast for the era, had all the ‘fruit’ inside – plus IRS, OHC, alloy heads, 2barrel carbs etc and you couldnt kill them if you tried.  A Datsun reincarnation will be half baked renaults that wont have any qualities of the originals except maybe they will be cheap. Let sleeping dogs lie I reckon.

    • somebody who knows nothing

      Oh? And Renaults in the the glory days of the Datsuns you mention were just cheap useless garbage were they?? I seem to remember things like the R10 Gordini being exceptional for its time, the 16TS was the forebear to the hatchback, and the 12 was a sensible economical reliable roomy little sedan.
      On the other hand, you seem to have glossed over the completely lack luster (nee embarrasing) 120Y range, the fact that the 200B was simply twenty more mistakes than the 180B. Yes the 1600 was good (with some excelent parts) and the 240 & 260Z’s were quite capable (as they should have been, being based on Austin Healy big 6′s) but the follow on cars were below average. Stanza was just a face lift, 280Z was too American.
      You also forgot that the 240/260K cars were simply Skylines (from that company before Nissan took over both)
      Hopefully the new model would use up to date running gear, not carry over ex BMC stuff and they were a bit more resilient to the dreaded rust worm than Datsuns of yesteryear….

      • Robin_Graves

        Yup, renaults of the ’60s and ’70s were largely useless garbage unless you had pierre next door to fix them every second weekend, gutless engines and so much body roll you needed to take sea sick tablets before going for a drive – not to mention looking like they were designed by a kindergarten kid.   At least a 120Y was reliable (its only redeeming feature really).  As for your comments about BMC and Austins, I think you have your wires crossed a bit there.  The A series pushrod engines in the 120Y and 1200 were based on Austin engines with some  differences, they had Hitachi electricals that worked (unlike Lucas, prince of darkness) and they didnt leak oil half as much as the Austins.  The L series OHC engines were based on a Mercedes 6 Cyl design made into a 4 Cyl for the 1600, then re-morphed back into a 6 cyl for the 240Z and 240K (and 240C but we wont go there).  As for your comments on the 240K, the last of the Prince Skylines was the C10, the C110 did have lots of DNA from the Prince designs and was even designed by the same guy, but by that time Prince was fully integrated into Nissan.  A new Datsun I fear would simply be a low-end Renault FWD with all the luxuries stripped out. 

        • Franco Phil

          I own a fully imported R16TS that was absolutely beeeeautiful. Reliable? No…:) Owned 3 Kingswoods after that and loved everyone of them. The Datsun 1600 was a classic…saw a little 1300 [1200 coupe running around just yesterday…still looks great.

        • itsme

          This is more to the facts finnaly someone who knows something

      • itsme

        You got no idea what your talking about.Go a read up on the facts and see how silly your coments are

    • svd

      A 240k was a gutless rust heap.  The bottom of the doors and around the front and rear windscreen were typical places for rust to appear.  Would not care if they never reappeared.

      • Robin_Graves

        240k had 96 kW, 202 holden red high compression had 102 kW. Rust was a problem in most 70′s cars. The 2 barrel Hitachi carb would often seize the vacuum actuated secondary venturi if putted around making them feel very gutless when pushed.

        • Godzilla

          Agree most cars from the 70″s were rust buckets but plugging the 202 red motor as a powerful thing is stretching it. The only good thing about the 202 was you could get cheap parts. The 240K coupe was a good looking car and had its share of mechanical issues but what didnt in that era.

          • Robin_Graves

            Yeah agree, every car from those days has demons.  I picked the 202 to show that a 240k was by no means ‘gutless’ nearly the same power from a 2.4 lt as what Holden were getting from a 3.3 lt – and a HQ was much heavier.  They were about lineball with a LH or LX 6 cyl.  They also came with a 5 speed standard.

          • Hung Low

            Then there is always the FJ20 Turbo to talk about! One of the best 4 potters ever in its time!

  • rentakeyboard

    Releasing a second range of low cost garbage can only damaged the Nissan name.

  • http://twitter.com/MINI_CS Ian

    I just see it now rusty Datsun 120Y’s recreated for third world countries…  

  • Robj

    Datsun Bluebird? RWD..

  • Tom

    That’s exactly why Nissan isn’t using its name.

    I think you’re all right, these cars will be rebranded Renault’s.

    To answer the question, no. If they’re planning to sell cars for $5,000 and under, I’m really not interested in seeing them share traffic with me.

    • Golfschwein

      Renault already has Dacia for Southern Europe and the Middle East and can rebrand Korean Samsungs at will, so I’m not convinced that the job will fall to Renault.

      • Robin_Graves

        The Samsungs are mostly Nissans made under license aren’t they?  I wonder what exactly are the plans and motivations for the Datsun brand, a new wave of ultra budget low-end designs made by Samsung?  I think these days Korean labour isnt all that cheap anymore due to their unions, even Great Wall has opened a plant in Bulgaria for cheaper labour than China!  Will be interesting to see where this will lead.

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  • Question.Mark?!?

    240Z REMAKE!!!!!!