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		<title>By: Mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF is it with FWD cars? Why was the epica not RWD or even AWD, with an powertech v6 shoehorned in?  Didn&#039;t Holden say (a few years back) that they were going to do a TORANA again - a small commodore?. 

Please god do not tell me that this is it!?

Who signed up on the &quot;WUSS-TRAIN???&quot;

Holden has had that many failures in the past 5 years that they need to THINK!

ie:
CRUISE
CREWMAN - admit it, they have axed it due to dud sales.
ADVENTRA
FRONTERA

Holden -  give me a job, and I will give you your next &quot;CULT CAR&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF is it with FWD cars? Why was the epica not RWD or even AWD, with an powertech v6 shoehorned in?  Didn&#8217;t Holden say (a few years back) that they were going to do a TORANA again &#8211; a small commodore?. </p>
<p>Please god do not tell me that this is it!?</p>
<p>Who signed up on the &#8220;WUSS-TRAIN???&#8221;</p>
<p>Holden has had that many failures in the past 5 years that they need to THINK!</p>
<p>ie:<br />
CRUISE<br />
CREWMAN &#8211; admit it, they have axed it due to dud sales.<br />
ADVENTRA<br />
FRONTERA</p>
<p>Holden &#8211;  give me a job, and I will give you your next &#8220;CULT CAR&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1613/holden-epica-pricing-specifications/comment-page-1/#comment-13536</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one love my 2004 CDX Vectra, holden no longer selling the Vectra will be a real loss of choice.  It is a shame they never really promoted it but that makes it a little more unique, which is great.

My Vectra is the best car I have I owned, it looks great but it is a little different, a European look, it is powerful, it handles well, its it is smooth and quiet on our rough roads and so on.  

I bet holden do not sell many Epica&#039;s to current Vectra owners, more sales to Mazada, Audi, Honda.


Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one love my 2004 CDX Vectra, holden no longer selling the Vectra will be a real loss of choice.  It is a shame they never really promoted it but that makes it a little more unique, which is great.</p>
<p>My Vectra is the best car I have I owned, it looks great but it is a little different, a European look, it is powerful, it handles well, its it is smooth and quiet on our rough roads and so on.  </p>
<p>I bet holden do not sell many Epica&#8217;s to current Vectra owners, more sales to Mazada, Audi, Honda.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Lazybones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazybones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And 115kw out of a 2.5L engine, another laclustre engine from Holden&quot;

With a low output engine, you&#039;d at least expect decent fuel economy but 115KW with 9.3/100 ADR is pretty poor. 

My Toyota has a 125KW 2.4L Engine (And its no great engine!!), with a Fuel rating of 9.1/100 ADR. I think it shows the poor level of refinement in the Epica.

I&#039;d have to agree with Sam on this one, What a shame we didn&#039;t get one of these..


http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vx/vxfilter/vxfilter.do?method=getTrimLevelsList&amp;brandName=New%20Vectra&amp;scope=S&amp;brandId=767&amp;dualFuelIndicator=N&amp;carVanIndicator=C&amp;vehicleType=C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And 115kw out of a 2.5L engine, another laclustre engine from Holden&#8221;</p>
<p>With a low output engine, you&#8217;d at least expect decent fuel economy but 115KW with 9.3/100 ADR is pretty poor. </p>
<p>My Toyota has a 125KW 2.4L Engine (And its no great engine!!), with a Fuel rating of 9.1/100 ADR. I think it shows the poor level of refinement in the Epica.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with Sam on this one, What a shame we didn&#8217;t get one of these..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vx/vxfilter/vxfilter.do?method=getTrimLevelsList&amp;brandName=New%20Vectra&amp;scope=S&amp;brandId=767&amp;dualFuelIndicator=N&amp;carVanIndicator=C&amp;vehicleType=C" rel="nofollow">http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vx/v.....icleType=C</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if the car breaks down, which it will, I would go to Daewoo to get it fixed right lol! 

And 115kw out of a 2.5L engine, another laclustre engine from Holden... my previously owned V6 Camry that was 14 years old had 140kw out of a 3L engine... sure this isnt a performance engine, but its 2007 ffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if the car breaks down, which it will, I would go to Daewoo to get it fixed right lol! </p>
<p>And 115kw out of a 2.5L engine, another laclustre engine from Holden&#8230; my previously owned V6 Camry that was 14 years old had 140kw out of a 3L engine&#8230; sure this isnt a performance engine, but its 2007 ffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that high pricing wasn&#039;t the only reason the Vectra failed but poor marketing and advertising. When it came out in 2003, I only remember one ad that I saw on the TV and it was crap. It lacked any desire to own or buy a Vectra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that high pricing wasn&#8217;t the only reason the Vectra failed but poor marketing and advertising. When it came out in 2003, I only remember one ad that I saw on the TV and it was crap. It lacked any desire to own or buy a Vectra.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw a Chevrolet-badged engineering evaluation vehicle parked in my street (with the badges taped over). But nothing about it looked Chevrolet-like, and the first word I googled was &#039;Daewoo&#039;.

They don&#039;t look bad in a bland sort of way, but given the crappy reputation of the Daewoo Barina and Viva for safety and performance, I&#039;ll be steering clear. I hope that the rumours floating around of Skoda&#039;s arrival turn out to be true, because for $25k, I&#039;d much rather an Octavia (or a Focus,  Astra, 3, or Golf for something a bit smaller) which&#039;ll probably give equivalent size and space, but with quality underpinnings too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw a Chevrolet-badged engineering evaluation vehicle parked in my street (with the badges taped over). But nothing about it looked Chevrolet-like, and the first word I googled was &#8216;Daewoo&#8217;.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t look bad in a bland sort of way, but given the crappy reputation of the Daewoo Barina and Viva for safety and performance, I&#8217;ll be steering clear. I hope that the rumours floating around of Skoda&#8217;s arrival turn out to be true, because for $25k, I&#8217;d much rather an Octavia (or a Focus,  Astra, 3, or Golf for something a bit smaller) which&#8217;ll probably give equivalent size and space, but with quality underpinnings too.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;no details yet on when those Nm kick in&quot;
its in the article,

as for the Epica in general,
I surely hope it becomes a miserable failure that will set a precedent for importing Korean cars.

The worse thing that could happen is success for the Epica as it will mean the beginning of a flood of more Korean cars on our doorstep, the way Holden is going,

Despite all the campaigning &quot;Holden means a lot to Australia&quot; I really think it means a lot more to Korea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;no details yet on when those Nm kick in&#8221;<br />
its in the article,</p>
<p>as for the Epica in general,<br />
I surely hope it becomes a miserable failure that will set a precedent for importing Korean cars.</p>
<p>The worse thing that could happen is success for the Epica as it will mean the beginning of a flood of more Korean cars on our doorstep, the way Holden is going,</p>
<p>Despite all the campaigning &#8220;Holden means a lot to Australia&#8221; I really think it means a lot more to Korea!</p>
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		<title>By: Lazybones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazybones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just a thought, why they bothered with 6 cyl they have the same power outputs as 4 cyl, just added extra weight.&quot; 

Agreed, I&#039;m guessing Holden think that selling a car this size with less than 6 cyl won&#039;t sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just a thought, why they bothered with 6 cyl they have the same power outputs as 4 cyl, just added extra weight.&#8221; </p>
<p>Agreed, I&#8217;m guessing Holden think that selling a car this size with less than 6 cyl won&#8217;t sell.</p>
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		<title>By: Myke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Epica engines have a slightly higher amount of torque compared to normal 4 cylinders. I think it is 195Nm and 237Nm for the 2.0 and 2.5 respectively</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Epica engines have a slightly higher amount of torque compared to normal 4 cylinders. I think it is 195Nm and 237Nm for the 2.0 and 2.5 respectively</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in fact:
2.0l 105kw@6400RPM
2.5l 115kw@5800RPM
figures were achieved using 95 ron fuel.
no details yet on when those Nm kick in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in fact:<br />
2.0l <a href="mailto:105kw@6400RPM">105kw@6400RPM</a><br />
2.5l <a href="mailto:115kw@5800RPM">115kw@5800RPM</a><br />
figures were achieved using 95 ron fuel.<br />
no details yet on when those Nm kick in</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought, why they bothered with 6 cyl they have the  same power outputs as 4 cyl, just added extra weight. Although the power might be coming earlier in the rev range than in most fours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought, why they bothered with 6 cyl they have the  same power outputs as 4 cyl, just added extra weight. Although the power might be coming earlier in the rev range than in most fours.</p>
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