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  • Birty_B

    I hate every time you guys review the wrangler, makes me miss my old one dearly.

  • Robbo

    I know 4 people who have purchased Wrangler’s in the last 2 years, 3 of those Wranglers have on going serious problems with them.  On that basis the average is bad, so I wouldn’t recommend one.  Pity because they look fantastic and would be great fun to own.

    • Rocket

      My neighbour has had a 4 door diesel for 12 months and he still has smile every time he gets behind the wheel. Not sure what serious problems you are talking about as they are pretty basic to service and repair.

      • Sumpguard

            Unfortunately they don’t have a good reliability record as Robbo has stated. I have a real soft spot for these cars as I do the VW Golf but won’t be buying one for the same reason.

           I looked long and hard at a Cherokee diesel but steered away at the last moment. I have been monitoring a caravanner’s site and the Cherokee at least seems to have omproved but I will keep reading the owner’s experience for a year or so just to make sure.

            Some people hate the fact the styling hasn’t changed much over the years but for me that is what makes it special.

        • kershena

          A bit of personal information on the grand cherokee. My grandparents waited for ages for the diesel to come out. They got all the bells and whistels they needed to be able to tow a van. It was beautiful to drive, looked great both inside and out. Within not even 4 months they have been through two! With the first car they had endless problems, if it wasn’t one thing it was another until they ended up exchanging their car for ANOTHER brand new grand cherokee. After having their next car fitted with all their
          extras again, they took their van for a
          test run. Luckily they did because as they were travelling down a massive range
          the car failed. Turning everything off which also disabled the brakes. They
          were on the range with cars, trucks and other vans heading their way. They had
          to use a handheld UHF to quickly inform all traffic of what had happened with
          my grandmother hanging out the window guiding oncoming traffic to get out of
          the way. Luckily they were able to make it out alive, however Jeep took the car
          in with little response and labelled the car as dangerous and warned no one was
          to drive this car either. With both my grandparents terrified they ended up
          buying another Toyota, as they didn’t want to try for a third time. They have
          since spoken to a number of other caravan travellers who, a majority of has all
          had many problems with the same vehicle. 

      • Robbo

        Beyond basic servicing problems, like massive water leaks, gearbox failures, electronic failures and suspension fails.  Issues that ground the car and leave the 2 of the owners without transport for over a month.  Not something I would expect of a new vehicle in today’s age.

        Your neighbour’s probably smiling because he’s stoaked his has no issues!  Lucky ;-)

        • GH

          Sorry for them. I had a wrangler in 2000 for a number of years and took it off road at every occasion and really treated it roughly. I can proudly say it never missed a beat. 

          • horsie

            ITs not the Wranglers that have the problems. Its the new Compass and Patriot, My mate brought the Compass and he has told me that it has been nothing but trouble since he brought it new. 
            I have also heard reports of the Cherokee being pretty bad as well. But i have never heard of any issues with the Wrangler. 

      • Ozedude

        Yes and such a basic vehicle shouldn’t have any problems at all.

    • sp25

      But you dont own one. Would the 4 people you know reccommend the Wrangler? And
      what kind of serious problems?

    • 4×4 4x4PURIST

      Then why buy a JAPANESE 4X4 their massive recall 250k + 

  • horsie

    ‘Consistent steering inputs are required to maintain a steady path ‘
    LOL when i was living in Canada i owned a early 90′s Short Wheelbase Cherokee , I can totally relate to what you mean by this. I thought there was something wrong with the car. I got it checked out and the guy told me ‘that’s how the all are’ until you get used to it , fells totally unsafe.

  • Henry Toussaint

    4×4′s are slowly being killed off but i hope it doesn’t happen cause 4×4′s are the best!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1353578702 Ken Cox

    I have a 2008 diesel and it’s been bullet proof and it’s had it’s share of off road work, suits our lifestyle to a tee.

  • Guest3

    Jeep recalled the WK2 Grand Cherokee with the new Pentastar 3.6L V6 recently. The whole engine was replaced. Anyone know why?

    • Reckless1

      Yes, I know why.  And it wasn’t just in the Cherokee..  You too can find out why, by typing “Pentastar recall” into your search engine of choice.

    • Birty_B

      It was a manufacturing issue, only 650 vehicle were effected and most were recalled before they were delivered to customers. 

  • Tom

    I massively disliked these for the overall package at first. I got driven to school in one every day and it was awful. However, with the fantastic new V6 there really isn’t anything to complain about any more with the power train.
    And the price! I honestly didn’t realise they were that cheap! $32,000 for a six-speed manual 3.6 V6 off-roader with REAL ability is fantastic! Bet you can get them cheaper too. And $50,000 for all the gear in the Rubicon?

    Don’t get me wrong, I still think Jeep is a pile of rubbish….. But this is awesome value for money.

  • Rick

    i wonder with the new patrol coming out and not being really an off road 4×4, if nissan will still offer the old patrol and as for toyota the price of those just seems to go higher and higher, there might be a bit of a hole jeep can fill if they can get a good reliable product out there

  • MisterZed

    These are very popular with 16-year-olds in the US as first cars.  A common sight in most high schools, at least in the better suburbs.

  • DAVIDZ

    Superb vehicle, hope they never soften it

    “If i had the Jeep” L.F

    • TheREALDavidZ

      They already softened it with the current generation.  Remember the chrome bumpers on the previous generation model?  Gone.  All black plastic now.  They also abandoned the upright vertical grill which was a feature of all Wranglers and now have an uglier sloped grill (probably to do with pedestrian safety).

      • Birty_B

        Softened by removing the chrome grilles ? One of the best things about the plastic is that they’re heaps cheaper to replace when damaged off road. 

  • Symo

    I still prefer the Nissan Patrol. Near enough the same tech, just longer, wider, taller, more seats and doesn’t leak drafty air like a 100 year old Queenslander.

    • James Cortez

      Nissan patrol has the same tech as this pentastar engine? Use your head bubba!. Patrol produces 185 KW from 4.8 litre compared to 209 KW from 3.6 litre pentastar. A person with brain won’t even need a calculator to figure out which engine has the edge in technology! 

      • Obetay

        Plus you can take the roof off the jeep.

      • MisterZed

        Um, the Patrol 4.8L petrol was dropped last year.  Only diesel now.

  • Reckless1

    Just a shame the luggage space is not big enough to even carry a fridge.

    And the convertible nature makes it hard to carry a tent on roof racks.

    So it’s useless for outback touring, which is why you rarely see on out there.  Or is it because they are too unreliable to reach the outback?

    • ABCD

      It’s big on the outside. But narrow on the inside.

  • Schofield

    A roof rack can be added, its external to the roll cage. People don’t use Wranglers on long distance touring because their weight isn’t enough to carry the sort of loads landcruisers/patrols can carry/tow. 

    I don’t know if you’ve noticed but, everyone on here who has a problem with Jeeps don’t have Jeeps, its always a friend of a friend… It really is the Vocal minority.

    • smosh

      well said
      i bought a 2002 kj new and never had any problems with it allways did every thing you wanted to do, was great towing, what else can i say great car and still have it, i just orderd a 2012 wrangler im pretty excited will be yellow called dozer, the 3.6 litre cant wait for the next 8 weeks to hurry by to pick it up.
      just love jeeps and realy dont care who hates them or what problems they may all veichles have problems no mater what make!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jonesconstruction

        Hi
        Can you tell me if you have recieved your Jeep as I am having a lot of problems with the delivery of my Jeep which I ordered in February.
        Cheers
        Anyone else??

  • theerik

      I love to go on a trip in one of these. 4x4s are the maximum.send free messages on your computer just type TEXTME4FREE.COM and ready your message reaches anywhere in the world DO IT NOW.

  • Desert jeepster

    Well WELL ……question how many NON Jeep vehicles have completed the  RUBICON TRAIL check it out on Google / youtube , yes people sledge the Jeep wrangler but take a Japanese all show and  no go out where we go to truth alley and devils pass and see what happens , yes to speak of friends who always bought TOJO’s have opted to buy a workmate troopie and are happy but for the price , we purchased 2 wrangler 4dr’s in 2007 decsion easy 2 for the price of one Landcruiser,and pricing similar today

    yes they have had their share of recalls , what car owners do not realise a lot of recall work is carried  while in service un be known too you.

    Just to mention   one of wranglers is approaching the 200,000klm mark and alls good come June / July we be tradingboth in on the new pentastar wrangler.

     re pricing Jeep Australia is taking Jeep buyers for mugs in the USA wranglers are about $8 /10,000 cheaper why with the Australian dollar so strong  ( in 2007 pricing parity was closer) why  because of sheer popularity  and price creep will continue more and more as it did with Toyota landcruiser.most of you will realise that the popularity has become so great the US Toledo factory can not keep up demand ………..last years wrangler production I understand passed 155,000 units .

    theres always knockers Holden owners will not even get in Ford and visa versa the same in the REAL 4WD market

  • cuno

    Owned One. Never again. 2009 model with 3.8L six, two door hard top. I buy four wheel drives to use, and use it I did. As a stock car the places it could get to were amazing, but the only concern was whether it’d get you home. In the 2 years I owned it, new gear box, transfer case, clutch, replced carpet, four new transfer case bushings (bushings kept snapping during transfer case operation – left us in the middle of nowhere once until I climbed under and shifter by hand). In anticipation of any comments yes I do know how to drive on and off road. Great looking car and great off road, but I just couldn’t trust it. Build quality wass really ordinary. Now have a 2011 Dmax. nowhere near as good offroad but streets ahead in comfort, ride quality, build quality, toughness and space.

  • Pryer1987

    just wondering why the unlimited sport doesn’t come with a limited slip diff.shouldnt it be standard.

  • Rubi fan

    I own a 2007 Unlimited (4 door) auto Rubicon. It has 93k km. I have used it as my daily driver and for moderate -hard weekend 4WDing. I love it and will be upgrading to a 2012 Rubicon later this year. I can’t imagine driving anything else. It is a multi-configurable vehicle that I never get bored with. Not too prissy to throw hardware in the back or worry about getting scratched in a car park.It’s a head-turner, incredibly capable off road and is quite acceptable on road. And no, I don’t work for jeep or a jeep dealer.

  • Wayne Oliveri

    Hi, I just purchased a 2012 unlimited wrangler 4 door white, I am totally in love it is the most amazing vehicle, I bought a 2002 kj limited cheroke new was also a great car did every thing from city to bush and never missed a beat, I am a jeep person no matter what any one else says, can’t wait to experience the wrangler in all driving conditions I’ve only done 500 ks so far and they have been a lot of fun and the power in this 3.6 is great with the 5 speed auto. I just love jeeps Never hesitate to recommend

  • Driverone98

    jeeps rock!!

  • Eugene Willys

    I never understand why they claim it handles bad or is uncomfortable. I have owned a G60 Nissan Patrol LWB, Suzuki Sierra LWB 1Lt, Suzuki Swift GTi Mk 1 and a Holden Barina Sri. My Wrangler handles very well around town and has good control in roundabouts. It just as comfortable as or better than the vehicles I have had in the past. The problem is car reviewers drive all type of cars then comment on a rugged 4WD that they don’t handle like a car or have the comfort of a luxury sedan. I base the vehicle on it’s merits and I love the Jeep Wrangler.

  • Ian Mackay

    I bought the first jk diesel 6 speed four door had it for 3 years. In that time i broke the front diff,had a software update for braking system,leaking soft top, fuel kept blowing back when refuelling and back tail lamp fuse kept burning out when rear fog lamps were turned on. Everything was fixed under warranty with loan car supplied. Ended up traded it for a limited cherokee with V6 no problems in 3 years nearly. Great on road dynamics and good off road just heavy on fuel.

  • Kaz

    Bought a 2012 Jeep Wrangler V6 Auto and LOVE IT! Off road is fun and city is cruisy with top off. Experienced no leaks or engine problems and electrical side is great! There will always be those few cars in a bunch that have problems, just unlucky if it happens to you. Great value for money. The only down fall is fuel but love the grunt and style. Best car our family has ever bought.

Jeep Wrangler Specs

RUBICON : 3.8L MULTI POINT F/INJ - 4 SP AUTOMATIC - UNLEADED PETROL - 2D SOFTTOP
Car Details
Make
JEEP
Model
WRANGLER
Variant
RUBICON
Series
JK MY11
Year
2012
Body Type
2D SOFTTOP
Seats
4
Engine Specifications
Engine Type
MULTI POINT F/INJ
Engine Size
3.8L
Cylinders
V6
Max. Torque
315Nm @  4000rpm
Max. Power
146kW @  5000rpm
Pwr:Wgt Ratio
77.5W/kg
Bore & Stroke
96x87.1mm
Compression Ratio
9.6
Valve Gear
OVERHEAD VALVE
Drivetrain Specifications
Transmission
4 SP AUTOMATIC
Drive Type
4x4
Final Drive Ratio
3.73
Fuel Specifications
Fuel Type
UNLEADED PETROL
Fuel Tank Capacity
70
Fuel Consumption (Combined)
11.8L / 100km
Weight & Measurement
Kerb Weight
1885
Gross Vehicle Weight
Not Provided
Height
1865mm
Length
4223mm
Width
1873mm
Ground Clearance
223mm
Towing Capacity
Brake:1600  Unbrake:750
Steering & Suspension
Steering Type
POWER ASSISTED RECIRC BALL
Turning Circle
10.4
Front Rim Size
7.5x17
Rear Rim Size
7.5x17
Front Tyres
255/75 R17
Rear Tyres
255/75 R17
Wheel Base
2424
Front Track
1572
Rear Track
1572
Front Brakes
DISC - VENTILATED
Rear Brakes
DISC - VENTILATED
Standard Features
Comfort
Air Conditioning
Control & Handling
17 Inch Alloy Wheels, Electronic Stability Program, Traction Control System
Driver
Cruise Control, Leather Steering Wheel, Multi Function Steering Wheel, Power Steering
Engine & Transmission
Limited Slip Differential
Entertainment
Radio CD with 6 Speakers, Premium Sound System
Exterior
Fog Lights - Front, Hardtop, Power Mirrors
Interior
Cloth Trim, Power Windows Front
Safety
Dual Airbag Package, Anti-lock Braking, Seatbelts - Pre-tensioners Front Seats
Security
Alarm System/Remote Anti Theft, Central Locking Remote Control, Engine Immobiliser
Optional Features
Driver
Mobile Phone Connectivity, Satellite Navigation
Exterior
Metallic Paint
Safety
Side Front Air Bags
Other
Service Interval
6 months /  12,000 kms
Warranty
36 months /  100,000 kms
VIN Plate Location
12-N-18
Country of Origin
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA