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	<title>Comments on: Holden offers fuel at 99 cents per litre</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobber,
no probs mate.

and in answer to your question will holden get the numbers they need......

they will asses this mid month, and if sales are poor they will run a better promo to pick the months sales up towards the end.
never go into the month with your best deal first.
the idea is to sell as many cars as they can for as much as they can, in the same way the consumers focus is to get as much as they can for as little as they can</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobber,<br />
no probs mate.</p>
<p>and in answer to your question will holden get the numbers they need&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>they will asses this mid month, and if sales are poor they will run a better promo to pick the months sales up towards the end.<br />
never go into the month with your best deal first.<br />
the idea is to sell as many cars as they can for as much as they can, in the same way the consumers focus is to get as much as they can for as little as they can</p>
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		<title>By: Joober</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/16118/holden-offers-fuel-at-99-cents-per-litre/#comment-91582</link>
		<dc:creator>Joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Andrew, with all the scam tirade before your post it felt that you were taking a stab at so called &#039;scams&#039; from other manufacturers.

We can go all the way with this marketing lesson, from this to loyalty programs its all under the marketing bucket, its how businesses do businesses, thats why I kinda feel pity for people being a fanboy or advocating a brand (corporation) 

Realcars, no doubt Holden will attract a number of buyers with this deal, question is whether its going to get the numbers they need...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Andrew, with all the scam tirade before your post it felt that you were taking a stab at so called &#8216;scams&#8217; from other manufacturers.</p>
<p>We can go all the way with this marketing lesson, from this to loyalty programs its all under the marketing bucket, its how businesses do businesses, thats why I kinda feel pity for people being a fanboy or advocating a brand (corporation) </p>
<p>Realcars, no doubt Holden will attract a number of buyers with this deal, question is whether its going to get the numbers they need&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Realcars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Realcars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t me I swear!

Although I must admit I can get a bit bitter and twisted at times Golfie.LOL.

I agree with the no free lunch comment. 

I suppose Holden has to get in on the act if they want to hook these customers.
I have always wondered how New Car dealers can justify the servicing charges on modern cars anyway. I mean all that is needed in most cases is an oil change with filter and an inspection to check that nothing is coming off.LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t me I swear!</p>
<p>Although I must admit I can get a bit bitter and twisted at times Golfie.LOL.</p>
<p>I agree with the no free lunch comment. </p>
<p>I suppose Holden has to get in on the act if they want to hook these customers.<br />
I have always wondered how New Car dealers can justify the servicing charges on modern cars anyway. I mean all that is needed in most cases is an oil change with filter and an inspection to check that nothing is coming off.LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/16118/holden-offers-fuel-at-99-cents-per-litre/#comment-91570</link>
		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew M

Exactly right, it&#039;s business and marketing principles 101.

Toyota are plastering all over the TV at the moment that their fixed price servicing is the cheapest by any manufacturer. 

Wow, sounds great doesn&#039;t it? I wonder how many people have been influenced by this claim and made a purchasing decision because of it?

I also wonder how many people are aware that Toyota advised all their dealers that before each model was included in &quot;fixed price servicing&quot; that the base price of that model was raised by at least $1000.

So every person that purchases a Toyota with &quot;fixed price servicing&quot; has allready pre-paid part of their servicing in the purchase price.

So what does this cost Toyota, exactly the same as it was before. How much do you save with &quot;fixed price servicing&quot;? Nothing - but gee it makes for a great TV ad.

What has this got to do with Holden? 

You can rest assured the cost of this scheme is factored into the vehicle pricing ie a rise in the base price - guaranteed.

Business 101; there is no such thing as a free lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew M</p>
<p>Exactly right, it&#8217;s business and marketing principles 101.</p>
<p>Toyota are plastering all over the TV at the moment that their fixed price servicing is the cheapest by any manufacturer. </p>
<p>Wow, sounds great doesn&#8217;t it? I wonder how many people have been influenced by this claim and made a purchasing decision because of it?</p>
<p>I also wonder how many people are aware that Toyota advised all their dealers that before each model was included in &#8220;fixed price servicing&#8221; that the base price of that model was raised by at least $1000.</p>
<p>So every person that purchases a Toyota with &#8220;fixed price servicing&#8221; has allready pre-paid part of their servicing in the purchase price.</p>
<p>So what does this cost Toyota, exactly the same as it was before. How much do you save with &#8220;fixed price servicing&#8221;? Nothing &#8211; but gee it makes for a great TV ad.</p>
<p>What has this got to do with Holden? </p>
<p>You can rest assured the cost of this scheme is factored into the vehicle pricing ie a rise in the base price &#8211; guaranteed.</p>
<p>Business 101; there is no such thing as a free lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobber,
dead right,
it is no different to offering free servicing/capped servicing, free fuel/capped fuel, free car washes or what ever........
whats your point??
sorry, but the way you responded made it seem like you felt i said something to the contrary..........

some people just dont understand &quot;business principles 101&quot;,
and by the uneducated comments i never expect them too either.
are these the same people on here that call it a scam when the super market has ice cream &quot;save $2&quot; one week, then put the price back up once the promo has ended???

when the promo has ended, holden is entitled to put their price back up.
for all we know holden may have been 3/4 of the way to doing their A*se with last moths deals.
i use to manage a supermarket, and when we had Coke on special for a ripper price, we were actually losing 1c per bottle.
the 2 basic things to remember in retail is.....
High turnover means lower margin
Low turnver means higher margin.

holden was probably able to reduce the prices of their vehicles more last month because they knew they had plenty of stock sitting around to be able to have a higher turnover and hence they could afford a smaller margin

some people need a few points on life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobber,<br />
dead right,<br />
it is no different to offering free servicing/capped servicing, free fuel/capped fuel, free car washes or what ever&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
whats your point??<br />
sorry, but the way you responded made it seem like you felt i said something to the contrary&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>some people just dont understand &#8220;business principles 101&#8243;,<br />
and by the uneducated comments i never expect them too either.<br />
are these the same people on here that call it a scam when the super market has ice cream &#8220;save $2&#8243; one week, then put the price back up once the promo has ended???</p>
<p>when the promo has ended, holden is entitled to put their price back up.<br />
for all we know holden may have been 3/4 of the way to doing their A*se with last moths deals.<br />
i use to manage a supermarket, and when we had Coke on special for a ripper price, we were actually losing 1c per bottle.<br />
the 2 basic things to remember in retail is&#8230;..<br />
High turnover means lower margin<br />
Low turnver means higher margin.</p>
<p>holden was probably able to reduce the prices of their vehicles more last month because they knew they had plenty of stock sitting around to be able to have a higher turnover and hence they could afford a smaller margin</p>
<p>some people need a few points on life</p>
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		<title>By: Naughtyius Maxiumus</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/16118/holden-offers-fuel-at-99-cents-per-litre/#comment-91521</link>
		<dc:creator>Naughtyius Maxiumus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geepers some people wreck are great website. When will they stand up straight instead of being hunched over like the neanderthal they are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geepers some people wreck are great website. When will they stand up straight instead of being hunched over like the neanderthal they are?</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep well that about the 3 rd time they have done that,will they ever learn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep well that about the 3 rd time they have done that,will they ever learn?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Peskett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Peskett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golfie, it&#039;s not Realcars. Someone has been masquerading as him.

The impersonator has been banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golfie, it&#8217;s not Realcars. Someone has been masquerading as him.</p>
<p>The impersonator has been banned.</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realcars, it&#039;s not like you to be bitter and twisted. What&#039;s going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realcars, it&#8217;s not like you to be bitter and twisted. What&#8217;s going on?</p>
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		<title>By: Joober</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Err, its a scam depending how you look at it, If I were a Holden fanatic and looking at only buy a v6 commodore regardless, isnt this a better deal than having no discount whatsoever, its not like Holden are cutting costs, selling at a higher price, or something orather to recoup the discount?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err, its a scam depending how you look at it, If I were a Holden fanatic and looking at only buy a v6 commodore regardless, isnt this a better deal than having no discount whatsoever, its not like Holden are cutting costs, selling at a higher price, or something orather to recoup the discount?</p>
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