It looks much better then the overrated 3
I wouldnt call either of them good looking.
This looks like a Toyota Hilux type facelift to me… basically the same save for newly styled lights….
The front looks like the old Civic (American version), and the rear looks like the first generation Prius.
I dont know if I like the back or if I do like it but overall the new civic looks fantastic.
My concern with Hybrid is that the battery doesn’t hold charge as well as new after a few years, and it becomes a normal 1.5litre car.
You do (or do not) realise that the battery uses a fraction of its capacity range to extend the service life beyond the service life of the car. They are not like your remote control cars.
the battery never gets fully charged/discharged in its life cycle so you can not compare with remote control batteries
Blech, manual is still 5-speed. Sorry Honda, no one is falling for that underequipped/overpriced rubbish again.
What do you mean underequipped. Yes the gearboxes could do with another cog but other than thatthey are good for the money.
i reckon for the 20.990 price, the feature list is extensive …. compared to the base models of rivals. i dont think others include a 5 inch lcd display, climate control, bluetooth, aux. i dunno if im blindly talking here but as far as i know, i reckon that is pretty good damn value.
A properly designed 5 speed is better than just adding an extra cog for the sake of doing it. The grade logic in auto gearbox is doing a good job compared to some non-intelligent 6 speed box on the market
Well i guess the car isn’t really bad in any respects, but at the same time it isn’t class leading in ANY respects. Im one of those people who wants Honda to do well, and ill give them as many chances as necessary because i know they’re capable of wonderful things, but this is another mediocre effort. Maybe if they gave us the 2.4 engine that the US market gets it would add some excitement to an otherwise run-of-the-mill range.
If you chuck a 2.4L won’t make alot of sense because buyers in this segment are looking for fuel efficient, cheap to maintain cars. And how would the interior not class leading? Have you sat in a 3, Corolla, Lancer and Kia? Ride quality is better than all except maybe for 3 (not sure haven’t sat in a 3 long enough).
I think the new civic is great, I believe Honda will gradually climb back to where it belongs in Australia – near the top. Their cars are exceptionally built and are extremely reliable. I own a Euro and I would defininately buy another one any day.
The Euro is the only example of what most people expect from Honda in Australia. Well equipped, drives brilliantly, looks good and is very good value. Most of the other Honda products just dont have that class leading feel that we have come to expect from Honda’s over the years.
So why exactly is the sport only available with auto?
At this stage it could be one of two reasons. The japanese doesn’t have enough free space to do some manual versions of the sport and when production in Thailand starts back up will might get it OR Honda deleted it from the lineup because it didn’t sell in any great numbers to be deemed worthy for the new model.
Excuse my ignorant, is it made in Japan or Thailand?
The model we’ll get for the first few months of production will come from Japan due to the fact that the Thai plant was damaged in the flooding which occurred last year. Once Honda’s Thai factories are back and running our Civic and a few other Honda’s will be sourced from there.
i believe a manual wont be coming as apparently it was as @ss to sell for the dealers and only 1 in 100 buys it.. so i dont think its economically viable to bring it over..
because apart from you and 3 others who frequent these forums, noone else bothers with manuals (excluding traditional genuine 4WDers)
If the demand was there, the manufacturers would provide.
As often the case, ‘Sport’ is the cash cow variant loaded with options and almost always the heaviest in the range. The Auto only transmission further confirms that this car is not intended to be the most lithe, athletic version of the lot. For that you’d be better off getting a base model manual or wait until a ‘proper’ sports version comes out.
In this case though, the Sport doesn’t share the same powerplant as the base.
We recently purchased a 2011 civic and I was very surprised in regards to how well put together it is. Civics look alot better in real life than what they look on the internet. When looking around at say corollas and mazda 3, they dont even come close to the exterior and interiror finish of a civic. Ive also noticed by sitting in the 3 and corolla that the civic is alot quieter, even when it is being revved alot.
hope you got a bargain, given the 2012 model has higher equipment and generally lower prices -wont be doing any favours to your 2011 model resale value….
Have to agree with that. The engine love to rev and doesn’t sound harsh compared to the metalic sound in mazda 3 when it rev above 3000rpm
Its not bad but the new i30 and ceed ( if they bring it) will rape this, A new 3 or corolla can’t be too far off and the new golf comes out next year. Its just not enough
Are you serious? Have you seen the i30 and ceed in real life? Hyundai and Kia normally looks fantastic in pictures but in real life the fit and finish and quality of plastic used are normally not as good . Won’t lose sleep on the new Corolla, they’ve been boring over the last eons and they will continue to be boring. Golfs are good when new but they don’t have the reliability of Japanese cars, and repairs cost quite a fair bit. The new 3 would be the only true competitor (if they stop producing cars with a silly grin).
Pricing is where civic fails. While they look attractive on paper, the dealers normally give very little discount compared to others, making it uncompetitive in price
“Hyundai and Kia normally looks fantastic in pictures but in real life
the fit and finish and quality of plastic used are normally not as good”
Doesn’t sound like you’ve seen them in the flesh either Hehe. The Kia’s of the past year or two have been fantastic in fit and finish. I borrowed one from a friend when I was on Queensland on holiday, and I was really surprised, and it certainly was better value for money than our last (and it will also be our last) 2008 Honda Civic.
perhaps I have higher expectations than you then.
I don’t like the plastics used in Hyundai and Kia
I don’t like the way they drive and the light steering don’t give me confidence either
Your so called expecations have nothing to do with the reality — the fact that the new Civic is more a 0.5 year upgrade as apposed to a new car, especially when rivals left, right and centre are making drastic progress.
If you have driven all the rivals and the civic itself, then I respect your opinion (although I don’t agree with so called drastic progress for corollas, lancers and the 3s).
I’ve driven the Korean cars and I don’t think they are up to par in terms of driving experience and the quality of materials used (my opinion – you don’t have to agree)But if you’re just judging from pictures you find on the internet then you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Sport sound pretty good (specially with Civic import from Japan atm). No other car in the class offer leather and sunroof under $28k. “Sport” may be a little bit mis-leading…
It’s like calling a body builder “athletic” when they most likely couldn’t run a half marathon.
huh? what was your point?
How’s the road noise compared to the Mazda3?
The old model was better than the Mazda 3 in this respect and by all accounts this new Civic is even quieter again.
My new Civic Sport is very quiet, anyone who says otherwise simply hasn’t driven one (or has the hearing qualities of a dog)… as for is it quieter than the Mazda 3 .. in all honesty I have never driven a Mazda 3 so couldn’t comment, but I couldn’t imagine any other car in this price bracket being any quieter than the Civic, I would be surprised if there was.
the current one looks much better, jazz it up with low profile tyres + decent rims and a spoiler and it looks fantastic…
If you are looking for a good honest 4 cyl small car you can do a lot worse than the Honda Civic.
I think the Sport offers fantastic value,and the range should sell well,as its a great alternative to a 3,Focus,Corolla,and Cruze,with probably the best build quality and reliability of all…………………….
What sort of “Sport” model doesn’t come with a manual? I think that particular model would be the sweet spot of the range.
A ferrari, Lamborghini,Maserti..
This car is a massive disappointment, hopelessly asian styling, cheap interiors, ugly dash. I’d have an Elantra over this in a heartbeat.
Elantra for a start has a torsion beam rear suspension
are you serious? you’re comparing and favouring an elantra over a civic? you obviously haven’t driven or been inside a civic then.
scratch that….just go for a cherry it’s even better value than the elantra.
Yes, quite serious… the Elantra kills the Civic for interior and exterior styling, its bigger, it is more fuel efficient, it has a 6 speed auto, it has a direct injection petrol engine that can also run on 91 RON , it has a better warranty, the interior materials quality and presentation is in another league (better that its), it is a low maintenance car with annual service intervals, the engine uses a timing chain so no expensive timing belt changes, it even manages to handle decently. The new Civic sedan truly looks dire and the interior is awash in hard cheap looking plastics… for me the Elantra is a no contest choice… it is the american car of the year and has trounced the civic sedan in consumer reviews there as well.
Elantra 1.8 doesn’t come with direct injection. It does have dual VTC (both intake and exhaust CAM hence the power)
And both engines uses timing chain so it is not big deal. Again, look is subjective. I wouldn’t say Elantra kill civic as both has the pros/cons.
Did Honda have the Canon photocopier people to design the dash?
The face lift did not work out any better than current Civic. I actually quiet like current Civic design. It is sharp, nice design, never see it ageing. BTW, the rim in the first picture look so 80’s. Haha
The first picture is the Civic Hybrid, the new rim still looks ugly…
civic is best car but 2 shapes in used pakistan then best car and 1 shape city used people like honda 3.5 used 1 shape and 3.5 used 2 shape diference in lights and small prize in pakistan then people interested this car
Is this a coded message?
Mr Abbas, you are a wordsmith! I couldn’t have said it better myself. The insight and clarity you displayed is in accord with the civic mindedness of your thoughts. Your words are truly a prelude to an oddysey of commentary that will take us to the edge of the city and far beyond, Keep up the good work and all that jazz. I look forward to reading more of your postings.
Only a Pakistani can understand what his brother is trying to say :)…. after half an hour of deliberation i was able to decode his message…here goes.
Honda civic 2000 and 2004 are liked here. Same is the case with Honda city….2002 model is a prized possession. Half of the people like older civic and the other half like 2004 model. Older models are cheaper here that is why people are more interested in buying them.
Really? I thought he was saying “we harbour terrorists”.
In real life. Civic used a lot more fuel than claimed. around 12 liter per 100 kms…
Ummm no way it goes over 10. I have a 6th and 7th gen civic. Both around 7-8L 100ks.
This is BS. The type uses high 8’s in the real world and the less performance orientated models are down into the 7’s and low 8’s.
You’re full of BS
Do you wear lead shoes? Even my wife’s CRV which I think is pretty thirsty already….never exceeds 11 litres per 100kms. My previous 7th gen civic always averaged around 7 – 8 litres and i love pulling the revs every now and then.
Troll bait? A 1.8 litre using 12 litre per 100km? I own 07 vti which does 8.8 L/100km on 90% city drive… highway goes as low as 5.8 L/100km (110km/h cruise control on)
you are the only one make sense here. I guess u can get about 450 km in one tank. That is close to real life.
I get close to 600km in city traffic. normally change from 2nd to 3rd at speeds between 50-60. or may be 2nd to 5th sometimes.
My new Sport uses around 8.6L per 100kms … all City stop/start traffic driving.
Try the 2007 model auto made in Thailan. Full tank only gives you around 400 KM. Anyone anyone else ?? expecially during sydney peak hour trafic.
One thing though. How is this the 9th Gen when it uses the same engine, the same chassis and the same panels (bar the front and rear lights?
The 9th gen uses different panels throughout the body. It’s not just a facelift.
The A B and C pillars looks almost exactly the same as the outgoing model.
The same goes with the rake in the windscreen. I think the dimension is the same as well (not too sure about this. Haven’t checked)
Very Very close on dimension but not quite the same. They are different panels but look pretty similar. The C Pillar where the panel meets the door is shaped differently too.
In real life. I mean u go to work at about 8 and finish at 5. U fill with E10. If u live near motorway and work near motorway and u work odd hours. It is not real life.
If your car is stuck in traffic of course then your 12km/l wont count. Why? Because your car is NOT MOVING!
and then you fill it with E10……
That’s funny because my mother loves her 8th gen Civic and gets at least 600km out of a tank. Maybe you should get yours checked by the dealer for higher than normal fuel consumption
I can only get 550km with mine and I’m driving a manual.. perhaps its my right foot
you r saying u use 7.2 L per 100 Km. That is about the same as claimed. it is hard to believe.
so your mum only use 6.7L/100 KM. that is less than honda has claimed 7.2 L/ 100 KM. it is 40 L tank. You mum should be a driver teacher. LOL. It is not possible at all.
it’s a 55L tank you idiot
Sorry 50L i mean
Hondas claimed for the manual is 6.8 and yes she gets just under that.
The way ADR test fuel consumption is based on ratio of 60 city : 40 highway. The R18 engine is very efficient with highway cruise (i did once get 5.4l/100km) but again the city consumption should be around 9.2l/100km. So it is possible for someone to get more than 10 litre/100km consumption if they stuck in traffic jam and did most city driving. The figure is high, but it will be much higher if the same person drive a Mazda 3. ADR figure provide a mean for car buyer to compare consumption between cars, and it is not the absolute indicator of what you going to get in real life.
As for someone getting 600 or 700km per tank, when based on my 100% highway figure (5.8litre/100km) i can theoretically get 860km per tank. So every claim is valid, it just goes down to how the car is driven (city/highway)
Don’t believe binladen. He’s dead…
It’s a shame there’s no electric driver’s seat on the Sport model.
Electric seats are the biggest wanK on cars
Once u have set your seat u dont need to touch it again
Slow too, v;s manual adjustment
Yes it is a shame, but not a deal breaker, manual adj is OK … I would have liked to have seen a tilt adjustment as well on the Civic like the Elantra has.
The back looks like Mercedes C-class.
5th photo down of the dash, acres and acres of boring tonka-style grey
Give credit where its due the Elantra is a MUCH nice interior than this
The problem is this “new model” just seems phoned in. The difference between the 7th and 8th gen was massive and made the civic a massive success when it was released. But 6 years later this latest model just doesn’t offer enough in terms of styling or engine improvements to make anywhere the impact of the previous model or what Honda need at this point. I hope it helps pick up civic sales, but it’ll be in need of a massive facelift and update in two years time to keep up with the market.
Seems like a bean counters update in my own humble opinion.
So what? Every update doesn’t have to be a huge one. Most car makers will only give a model a huge makeover every other cycle. In between, it’s just an evolutionary change. For example, the change between the 3rd and 4th gen Civic wasn’t that drastic, nor was it from the 5th to 6th. Yet nobody complained.
There’s nothing wrong with an evolutionary change if what you’ve got is working.
Just checked out the new Civic Sport this afternoon .. WOW ! … what a car !
It is absolutely beautiful, superb quality for the price bracket, I really cannot think of any other car in the class anywhere near as good as this, …. I can’t wait for a test drive, if it drives anything like it looks, I for one will definately be placing an order !
Bought a Civic Sport today ..now I just got to pick what colour I want ?
Aaarrggghhhh …. can’t decide !
I would buy white, because I find every other colour gets too hot in the sun. This also means that you could potentially use less fuel as you would use the air-conditioning system less often.
Also some insurance companies have lower premiums for the colour white as it is safer (more visible) at night.
I agree, whites are superior
White was No.1 on my radar .. until I saw a Sport in Dyno Blue in the flesh … OMG !! .. it’s stunning in that colour !
Promptly told the dealer …” I WANT THAT !!! ”
Hopefully the dealer can source one locally otherwise it will be about a 4 week wait to get one.
hi i was wondering did u pay for the sports under the original price or the new price 27990?? cos i told my mum about the 9th gen and when she went to the store they claim the price for a civic auto vti was still $26k+. can someone please explain?
I paid the new price Carolyn for my Sport .. $27,990 plus on roads.
Maybe the dealer your Mum went to was quoting on road driveaway price?
Great article. I am just sad I dont know how to reply properly, though, since I want to show my appreciation like many other.
Honda’s marketing department needs a ‘heads up’. Calling a model “Sport” and then making it heavier than any other model and then cuffing it with an auto is beyond stoopid. Call the thing a ‘luxury’ or ‘porker’ but ‘Sport’???
“Sport” implies light weight, go fast, manual transmission.
If I want an overweight auto I have plenty in the market to choose from.
Why does everyone want an auto anyway? Have we become so Americanised that we are too lazy to push in a clutch pedal?
Please bring back the manual transmission!!!!
You can drop the auto into sport mode if you like and change gear manually with the paddle shifters … it will actually let you run all the way to the 7000rpm red-line too btw.
hey i couldnt help notice the price range on these reviews for civic vti-l is $20-23k but when i went to the store they claim an auto is still $26K+. can someone please clear things out for me? im not really a car fanatic so im really muddled. is the $20-23k only for america?
The $20,990 is for a VTi-L model with a Manual Transmission “without” on road costs.
The on road price for this VTi-L model in Manual is $23,490 (based on Qld prices)
If you want an Auto Transmission the on road price for the VTi-L model is pushed up to $25,790 (again, Qld price)
The on road price for a Sport model, (which only comes with an auto transmission) is $30,729 (Qld price)
Obviously these are “list prices” and with a bit of haggling with the salesperson you may be able to get a bit better price than the list price plus any extras you may be able to get thrown into the deal (mats, mudflaps etc).