2008 Holden Barina hatchback details
August 20, 2008 by Karl Peskett
Update: New Holden Barina Review
You may remember a little while ago, we had a sneak preview of Holden’s updated Barina. Well today, Holden has released specs and pics of the latest incarnation of its budget battler.
Sporting a refreshed exterior and interior, the Barina now comes with the added benefit of side airbags to bolster its oft criticised safety rating.
From the inside, the Barina now has a revised instrument panel, console and new fabric trim. Exterior-wise, a more Euro look has been adopted, and it reminds us a little of the Skoda Roomster. Powering the car is a 1.6-litre, 76kw, 145Nm engine, which returns a 7-litre/100km fuel consumption when mated to a manual gearbox, and 7.6L/100km in automatic form.
The 2009 Barina hatch begins at $14,490, with a choice of five new colours in the range. ABS is still an option however, but is now bundled with alloy wheels in a $1,190 package.
“With three body styles, striking exterior and interior design improvements, Barina will appeal to a broad range of customer groups. Add side impact airbags and the package becomes even more attractive,” said Philip Brook, GM Holden Director of Marketing.
“Barina represents great value for money in a growing segment of the market that appreciates fuel economy and the convenience of a small vehicle.”
Holden Barina recommended retail pricing
• 3-Door Hatch starting from $14,490
• 4–Door Sedan starting from $15,990
• 5-Door Hatch starting from $15,990
• Optional ABS and alloy wheels (4) pack $1,190
Tags: Holden Barina
well at least it will make the skoda roomster more accpeted
Question for Mr Philip Brook……….When did 7.6 litre per 100Ks become “economical” in this size car AND other than for people with POOR parking skills what are all the other “conveniences” of driving small, cramped and poorly built cars????????????????????????
Crap car, and Old News. I got my bommadore serviced (for the last ever time) and the dealer had 4 of these updated models there already.
LOL ABS is an option, that’s pathetic and its coupled with alloy wheels at 1100. And I agree with carl 7.6 is rubbish even small cars like the Rolla can pull that off
It does look better from the font and I agree, that grill is quite Skodaesque.
I suppose it is a marginal upgrade, supposedly Holden have worked on the suspension now. I wonder if there’s some structural changes under the new front end to help safety?
That engine is a family 1 derivative and so ANCIENT and its not surprising the fuel economy is crap for a small car.
Still the worst car to ever be sold as a Holden.
7.6 lt\100 isnt that economical considering the size of the engine and the car. My FG XR6 averaged 8.9 on a trip to and through Adelaide and back again with 4 people and some luggage !!! Sure it may be a bit more in heavy traffic but i would rather be in a FG XR6 than a Daewoo !! I think 5 bucks a week more in fuel is nothing……..
Deficient.
Needs the side airbags, as a non ABS equipped car will skid right out into an intersection and be t-boned anyway… Silly decision Holden (add that to the multitude of other ones)
Better off in a Swift.
“And it now comes with improved vanity mirrors as well as sunvisors*”…
*vanity mirrors sold in conjunction with alloy wheel upgrade, @ $1100
Who do they think they will fool??!
LOL…poor pathetic Holden and their Daewoo’s
Nothing has changed – still the worst car in its class!!!!
What is upsetting is people will buy this hopeless car just because of the pre 2005 Holden Barina reputation.
Wake up you fools and spring for the extra pocket change and buy a Yaris or a Mazda 2!!!!!!
Yukis and Mazda 2.
This class should be avoided.LOL
I hate crappy micro cars. This class hasn’t improved.
Still all cramp uncomfortable shitboxes.LOL.
Euros are the only ones that can make an “acceptable” micro.
what is really sad is that when the insinia comes next year it will be sold alongside this heap.
So it has “a more Euro look”: More like a Korean interpretation of a Euro look.
So they make it look more like an Epica……and this is supposed to be a good thing??
Sorry, Pass.
the front look alright, but the side profile (especially the 5-door) look outdated. I am undecided on the rear, but I prefer the rear of the 20065-2008 model. The new interior looks ok too, but thats from the official photos which can turn a crappy interior into a good-quality looking one.
This car really needs to get a 4 star crash rating in order for it to be accepted well on the market.
For the price of a Yukis or Mazda 2 u can buy an i30.
No contest!
Overdue side airbags don’t turn a beer can into a safe small car, neither does restyled front sheet metal, even when disguised by a Skoda grille.
These guys should be ashamed of themselves. This thing was six years behind the pack when it was introduced three years ago. Now it’s nine years behind. No wonder they’ve been parked at dealerships in NZ for the last month or so with no visible public announcement.
Im totally with real cars, in that i prefer realcars (pardon the Pun)
all cars from this class should be scrapped, not just the daewoos
Yeah saw this on Holden’s website at least a week ago.
Option ABS is pretty poor, considering the Astra has standard ABS and ESP. It’s kinda odd that they could sell such different cars under one badge.
Old… I have seen these for sale at the dealer up the road from me for several weeks now.
Myke,
the astra is in a different class in the same way the commodore is.
Myke – I think that when a company sells so many different model cars with so many different features under the same badge it’s what they refer to as offering a range of vehicles
Having said that I think that given time Daewoo will eventually offer cars the same level of quality etc as Hyundai do today.
Remember what Hyundais were like when they first arrived in Oz 10 years ago cheap nasty unsafe,, now look at them.. and over the years Daewoo will also improve I mean they can’t be that Bad given the popularity of the Captiva
Realcars – for the price of a Yaris Mazda2 or Barina etc I’d put towards options on a BMW
So updated inside…..great shots for viewing CARADVICE (NOT!). Upload inside shots hey!
Wheelnut,
but you musnt forget not every one can afford a BMW let alone the options on top of that.
sure some might only have 20K to go shopping with, but why do those in that bracket have to buy new??
thats what really gets me about small cars.
if you cant afford a real car (sorry about the pun again Realcars), then buy a low K 2nd hand commodore or falcon or aurion or magna (depending or your tastes of course)
either of those models i mentioned will have offerings on the 2nd hand market that will set you back around 20K for a plate that is around 2yrs old and still with warranty to boot.
why is the only option to buy a cardboard box on wheels.
these rice burners are so uncomfortable it isnt funny.
i was in a hyundai Getz and a Daewoo Barina back to back on the weekend.
it reminded me how terribly uncomfortable these things are. im sure in some countries they use it as a form of torture.
and after having been in the 2 back to back, i can assure you that the Barina is of better quality and comfort than the Getz.
that sort of crushes your dream of daewoo being equal to hyundai doesnt it wheelnut??
the seats in the barina are *slightly* more comfortable,
the Barina carries less rattles and squeeks,
the interior seems to be of better quality in the barina,
the door panels seem to be thicker in the barina in a way that it felt slightly safer.
I’d been in the both of them before, but never back to back. if you did a back to back in both of them you would realise the barina isnt that bad.
but hey, dont get me wrong,
i wouldnt be caught dead buying or recommending either of them.
small cars are a joke………
oh and i forgot,
the rear head rests in the barina actually support your head.
the same cant be said for the Getz
please note that i was being fair in comparing the barina to another vehicle in its class.
^I understand that the Astra is in a different class, I’m simply saying the quality is so different. The Astra has ABS and ESP as standard and a five-star EuroNCAP rating, whereas the Barina doesn’t have ABS as standard and a much lower NCAP rating… much lower.
Sitting in the Astra, it is solid as a rock, whereas the Barina feels as if it is made from recycled paper.
Which is a problem Holden has by using both European products and outdated Korean products. Overtime it will be less noticable but at this stage their lineup is very fragmented.
REALCARS and Andrew M,
Not everyone needs a large car. My wife and I are very happy with our 207 and even though it is a little bigger it is technically in the same size class as a Mazda 2, Yaris and the above tin can.
We have transported 4 people on +5 hour trips in comfort and for me personally I have not run out of space yet. It’s all a matter of perspective.
The Japanese are not far off the Europeans in this class, in safety and driveability. Some others though………..
Agree with Jimbo, not every one needs a big car, especially with 180+kW and 12-15L/100 in the city, not to mention trying to park on in some of the poorly designed carparks in my area. Those points aside, there is still no reason for anyone to waste their hard earned on this sub par effort, or lack of effort. Bottom of the class safety, resale, looks and performance. About the only car i would prefer one of these over is a Proton Savvy.
Andrew M, that is a misguided and quite frankly stupid view of things. Superminis are great and not everybody wants to drive a Prado or a Commodore or even a Corolla. Some people like small cars more that any other class and if you cant see that than just stay out. And realcars, you can buy a Mazda 2 or Suzuki Swift on the road for the same price as an i30 off the road. Quite different.
I think all the arm-chair critics who have never even driven the new Barina should just bite their tongue.
I have tested and driven the new Barina and it’s actually better than expected, and comparable if not better in alot of areas than most other budget cars on the market.
So before you mouth off, try it first.
All I can say
HOLDEN GO BETTER when you towing them!!
Mate Holden what are you thinking wonder who will buy GMH out when they go bankrupt with cars like this. The company is doomed!!
Hmm an updated Daewoo Kalos. This car is the definition of polished turd.
While all of us here are car fans and know what is a good car and what is rubbish, most buyers are not car fans so they will do little research, buy by comapring brochures and prices, and not realise what a disappointing car this is until after they have bought it. Very sad.
All of these upgrades and they haven’t fixed the seats, ride, handling, fuel economy, performance or quality. Holden would’ve been better off importing the European Corsa…
Chris, at the end of the day you fall into the majority of ppl who simply have no idea about motor vehicles, full stop!
What year is it?
Chris they gave it a cut and polish mate, looks better but is still an old car..good on em for the airbags will prolly pick up another star, but no ABS as standard…so you have no help getting out of trouble to start with :(
Bottom feeder.
What a load of crap… I saw the updated Barina at a holden dealer weeks ago in melb.
7.6 is hideous for a small car.
I have a 11 year old Mitsubishi Mirage, stock standard. Its a 1.5L and I get 6.5L/100Km in the city and on highways i get between 5 and 5.5L/100km. My car has ABS and its fregging old… I cant believe that when car manufacturers are moving to put standard ESPs Holden is still charging extra for ABS!
So this car is supposed to compete with a Fiesta, needless to say we all know which one will win!!!!
I did rather buy a Getz than this, atleast I get 5 yrs unlimited Km warranty!
Altho i would probably get a Mazda 2, slightly more pricey, but better resale value!
just realised something that the target market for a barina is generally women…. why would they buy this when they can buy a Nissan Micra, with “quirky” looks and standard Auto.
This car directly compete with Getz, which has ABS for free (maybe limited time), and had ESP as option.
Getz also had much better warranty, maybe cheaper to service as it is cheapest car to run on the market.
Barina front looks slightly better though, but overall, not much hope to turn whole thing around.
Hey wheelnut isn’t the Captiva a Kia ??
Boggy, nah the Captive is a Daewoo! Designed and built by Daewoo in Korea.
Whereas Kia is with Hyundai, compare with Dawoo, they produce similar products compete same market, but totally different background.
Good on you Chris I agree with you. I know several people who have bought the current model Barina and I HAVE driven their car and it is actually a good little car to drive. Holden are doing their best to give Australians an opportunity to buy a new car. So for the people in this market who can’t afford to spend alot on a new car this would be like a Mercedes to them. Good on you Holden
Mike, you can buy a 3 door Yaris for the same starting price as the Barina. So to use your comparison of the Barina being like a Mercedes to people in this market then I guess that makes the Yaris a Bugatti Veyron!!!
Wake up people this car is no cheaper than its competitors and for the same coin you can get much much better wheels.
Safer, more reliable, as cheap to buy and run and with a better build quality!!!!!! Fact.
Jimbo, suggest to get on the Toyota website. Yaris base model 3 door, with only a 1.3 ltr engine starts at $15190.
New Barina is $14490 (1.5 ltr engine) with Alloy wheels. $700 saving, which is alot of money to people in this bracket.
True Mike, but for that extra $700 you get ABS 2 extra stars of safety, fuel economy of 6L per 100km and your getting guaranteed $125 servicing.
Think big picture Mike!!!!!
Then you could add $750 for more airbags and a 5 star safety rating or buy a Mazda 2 and get all of the above. Tell me Mike how much is the safety of your loved ones and yourself worth to you?
My advice is to save up a little longer and think about all the aspects of your major purchase and buy smart not cheap!!!!!!
Alloys wont save you life Mike!!!!!!! A well built and designed car will!!!!! Fact!
Only $700 more for a Yaris. Money well spent. And a $2K- $3K better resale after 3 years too.
“Good on you Holden” Yer sure Mike,sell an outdated, safety feature lacking antique to our least experienced drivers, Good on you Holden, you care..
REALCARS, How do you explain cars like the Yaris, Mazda 2, Peugeot 207, Fiat Punto and 500 all getting 5 star safety records? You can also get a 1.5L engine in the yaris and varuous other uprated engines in all the others. For example 130kw in the 207gti, or any of the diesels available in this class.
Your a tool mate, if you had a clue or gave constructive critisism I would respect you but you don’t.
Realcars is a nob Jimbo, easier to just ignore him I think.
Jimbo if u honestly believe that a car the size of a Yaris can achieve a five star safety rating in real world situations then u possibly believe in the tooth fairy too.LOL.
Just skip this class altogether it’s just not worth it.
I’ll go as far to say that these micro cars should be banned from our roads.
1.5 Yaris. Well, I could buy an i30 with change!
Mark,
I would suggest that “Mike” does care. Probably more sales the better. (Well what Holden salesman/PR wouldn’t)
Please would some people stop offering uninformed, misguided opinions. Boggy and Bret, you’re made to sound like Tweedledum and Tweedledumber… Holden Captiva, NOT “Captive”, is Holden’s first totally new Australian designed but offshore built (GM Daewoo, NOT Kia) car. Quote -
“Extensively tested by Australian engineers, Captiva was also designed by two Australians – Michael Simcoe and Max Wolff – in Korea.”
Find the truth here: http://www.designawards.com.au.....tionID=678
REALCARS, if you in a Falcon or a Yaris and you get hit by a truck, either way your toast.
But to get 5 stars the car needs to crumple in the right places and hold its shape in the right places. And the cars I mentioned do that. Commodores still do not!
I would rather be in my 207 in a crash than a Commodore.
An i30 is a great car but it starts at $19990 and a Yaris 1.5 starts at $16990. Whats you change then champ -$3000.
Don’t you mean “chump” Jimbo :)
The VE can never get a 5 star safety rating as it cant meet the minimum frontal offset test requirements. They designed for looks not core engineering. Now they need to spend another billion :)
LOL..Mark, agreed
Jimbo…….the i30 is a 5 door and a Yaris yrs 1.5 5 door costs around 21 grand drive away if you’re lucky, not 17 like you said!
Your right Carl but the original comparison was a 3 door Yaris and a 3 door Barina, then REALCARS started talking up the i30 as an alternative.
My apologies to you both i stand corrected
Fair enough Jimbo just thought i’d mention that the i30 and Yaris are very similarly priced of course in my opinion the i30 diesel will leave the Yaris for dead!
I love a good debate … and have been enjoying reading some of the comments here … must say anyone who says that the Barina is a Merc is prolly high on pills – duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudeee!
WTF- Barina is a Daewoo Kalos!
The Smart car is safer than the Barina, so well that should put to rest the arguments about bigger cars being safer.
I appreciate that the Smart car is a lot more expensive too, but when you compare size its smaller.
Commodore is a 4 star rated car…. fiat 500, mazda 2 etc are 5 star rated cars.
Holden went for the big woop about spending a billion bucks on the commodore, pity they couldnt spend ten bucks on the barina to get a better car.
Anyone knows whats the 0-60mph for this Barina?
Si1982……you make some valid points BUT just like a good heavy weight will always beat a good feather weight you must compare a large 5 star car with a small 5 star car and in front end accident with a semi trailer you can guess what i’d rather be in………….yes you guessed it the semi!!!!!
Chump/champ very good.LOL
Yes I would prefer to be in the semi too but failing that would prefer to be in a Commodore than a micro car despite the laboratory crash ratings.
I doubt that a five star Yaris or Pug would result in less injury than a four star Commodore/Aurion in an actual crash.
—and that look of resignation.LOL.
Realcars…….my point to all the believers that a micro car with a 5 star rating is just as safe as a large car with the same rating is that if the semi is safer than all of them THEN “size” does matter!!!!!
REALCARS, just food for thought: If a car does not perform under controlled laboratory conditions what makes you think it will perform under uncontrolled real world conditions?
Just think about that for a while. Consider the logic it may save your life one day.
I’ll take my chances in my Pug that “DID” perform in controlled Lab conditions.
And I would also prefer to be in the Semi!
Also I think my Pug is pretty cool, no look of resignation from me. I could have got a slightly used Commie or an Aurion for the money I paid.
I did not because I didn’t need a car that big and I did not want an anonymous yawn making bore of bores of a car.
Your right Carl size does matter but this is not always the case. For example my 1.3t Pug vs a 1.7 Commie. I think I would be better off in the Pug in a crash. A semi on the other hand……..
The larger the car the greater the room for error in a real life crash i.e I am sure the micro would deteriorate at a greater rate once the laboratory thresholds are exceeded in a real accident for the same reason that it is a lot easier to make a Large car safe.
Anyway, the Pug isn’t really a micro in the Jap sense as it is actually half a class above as most of the Euros are despite similar engine displacement.
Do ANCAP do any testing for rear end collision and would any of the micro hatches pass any criteria in this regard? I doubt it.
Roger,
Please get a clue and stop offering uninformed, misguided opinions.
Captiva IS Designed and Built by Daewoo in Korea.
OK so a couple of Aussies helped out with the styling (referd to as “designed” in the article that you linked to), but you would note that even that was done within the Daewoo offices.
OK so it was “tested by Australian engineers”. How does that change it’s origins?
Sorry, but I’m in engineering and when we talk “design” we don’t mean “style” we mean “engineering design”.
To suggest that Captiva is a Holden design is just plain ludicrous. Please stop regurgitating carefully selected advertising propaganda, and trying to pass it off as some kind of truth.
Now I’m not saying wether it’s a good or bad thing (you may be aluding to something there) but:
Captiva IS Designed, Engineered and Built by Daewoo in Korea.
crash ratings are only really comparible amongst other vehicles in its class.
you are silly to think that you are just as safe in a 5 star micro as you would be in a 5 star large car (family class)
sure its about the crumple happening the right way, but if you have 1/2 the space for the crumple thingy to happen, somethings gotta give.
and whilst on comparing cars within their class,
has anyone really compared the barina fairly within its class for quality???
everything in this class for around the same money is just as bad.
if the barina had better safety credentials, it would easily be a better car than the Getz.
compare a few in their class guys and you will be surprised like i was.
Carl,
dont you own a Yaris??
dont you too complain about the fuel economy??
dont you say its actually like 7.5L/100k which would but it no better than the barina economy.
small cars arent really as good for economy as majority think (apart from the diesels)
The Captiva is one stylish SUV IMO. Given that GM have owned Daewoo for a while and before that lent their old designs to Daewoo and that the Epica,Barina etc are marketed soley as GM products it follows that GM would have to have substantial design input in much the same way and similar extent HYUNDAI influences Kia. In both cases wholly owned subs of the other.
Same deal with Ford and Jaguar during their master/ slave arrangement.
Andrew,
100% correct on being unable to compare across vehicle classes.
Crumple zones and airbags are all about dissipating energy.
Smaller cars have less mass and therefore less energy to dissipate in a crash. They therefore need lighter crumple zone elements to dissipate that energy.
Larger cars, with more mass must have larger, stronger crumple zone elements.
Unfortunately for the ocupants of smaller cars, what that means is the energy is dissapated from the large car into the small car before it’s own crumple zones begin to work.
Effectively then, a 4 star large car will usually win out in an argument with a 5 star small car. Trees however usually win all arguments.
I agree with you Andrew about Daewoo vs Hyundai in terms of Quality.. I mean there are a number of areas where the Captiva is better than the Tucson.
It;s just that nearly everyone on this topic is assuming because its from Korea its an inferior quality product.. Yet look at simialr products from Japan.. Daihatsu for example even though its owned by the worlds wealthiest car company Toyota some of its cars are as unsafe as unreliable as ugly and poorly built as Daewoo is believed to be
I also nted that you compared The barina with a car within the same class which proves that you aren’t a Toyota fan
Hi Andrew M…….Yes i did own a Yaris but got rid of it earlier this year after regretting the day i bought it!!!!!
Realcars,
I’m not casting aspersions one way or another, I was just answereing a question from Boggy, and correcting the mistaken belief by Roger that the CaptivA (Roger it was just a bludy typo earlier) was an Australian designed car.
Holden is GM, so is Daewoo.
Holden took the lead design on VE in Australia, Daewoo designed CaptivA in Korea – both are 100% GM.
GM head office dictated the VE’s key dimensions (so that it would meet their global requirements) does that mean that the VE Commodore was designed in America?
Lest we forget, Daewoo went bankrupt selling some of this stuff, and now GM is in – its still a rose by any other name guys. Dont get carried away by the engineering input apparently put in by Holden, its mostly BS. For example, did you know that the Captiva is one of pooer vehicles in its class when braking on dirt..lot of good old aussie engineering there, right, wrong!
But then to be frank, I dont know if GM are partic good at engineering and design anyway, maybee Daewoo is a step up?
First the colarado article and now this! I know CA do not except kick backs from manufacturers but its certainly seems like you were having a very good day when you were writing these two. What happened to your more critical view? If i wanted to read this bs i would head over to the Holden website. Im sorry guys but very dissapointing….
why do they bother writing up on this POS?
One of the Head designers at GM is Mike Simcoe who designed the VT Commodore and the Monaro before being promoted to Head of design of the Asia Pacific region; which includes Korea and therefore spent time at Daewoo helping with the Design of the Captiva – trying to give them a more Edgy somewhat European look.
Now at GM HO in the US Mike has alot of influence as well as the final say as to how both current and future GM products throughout the world will look..
On a recent visit to Oz with other GM CEOs including Bob Lutz; whilst he cooled down any speculation as to a next gen monaro Mike did like the idea of a compact hatch/coupe [of which there are a couple of CGIs around the place]possibly the same size as the soon to be released Torana…. A9-X anyone?
Hey guys, just picked up a brand spanking new Barina yesterday and I couldn’t be happier, I love it.
My girlfriend has owned her new Barina for 15 months and said it’s the most reliable and economical car she has owned as well.
Both of us would recommend a Barina to anyone.
As for some of the guys on here who think they know it all, go screw yourselves fellas…..see ya :)
Bret,
you just explained the pyhsics of it.
i dont see how some cant see that even before having to go into that.
i still reckon a 4 star large car would easily out do a 5 star smallie though.
you cant tell me a small car door skin is that good.
when you sit in a small car you sit a lot closer to the outer side of the vehicle, and the panels are much much thinner.
its like packing a coffee mug in a box with scrunched newspaper in it versus one with out scrunched newspaper in it,
and dropping them both.
with out the news paper, there is nothing to absorb any of the impact and the force will go straight on to the mug/passenger
small cars have their place, sure,
but dont for one minute try and tell me it is an uncompromised substitute for a large car
Jo, just because you bought one because your friend has been happy with hers doesn’t make the Barina the best car in its class. If your friend had been smart enough to buy a Yaris, Mazda2 or even a Fiesta, they would probably have made the same claims. ie most reliable, economical ect and then been happy to recommend one of those.
You all need to stop bagging the Barina, seriously. If you don’t like it then don’t buy one no one is forcing you. I am about to pick one up and I am absolutely thrilled. So how about you all stop being so negative and realise that just because it’s not to your taste doesn’t mean it is a useless car. I worked at a Holden dealership and there was never any problems with Barina’s they are extremely popular! So how about you all get off your high horse and stop being unnecessarily nasty. The day that half the people on this forum design and mass produce an equally popular small car is the day that I will really take on any of these pathetic comments. In the mean time how about you all get over it!
SEAT Ibiza copy much? at the front anyways.
Jane, I would say they are popular because being cheap n nasty and particular these buyers are not driving enthusiast, otherwise they would test drive other makes and models, not just supporting one badge recommended by advertising, boyfriend’s and one eyed dad’s…
AC Cobra, thank you kindly for your typical excuse. I will have you know that I did shop around and I chose the Barina….did I at any point state that everyone should buy one?? No I did not. Do you think that maybe I am not an driving ‘enthusiast’, that I am simply a young woman looking for a stylish small car that will get me to work each day? Do you think that most people who are looking to buy the Barina are in the same boat as me? I dont want a fuel guzzling 4WD and this is a reliable small car from a reliable company. . I think you need to ask yourself these questions then get back to me. I would also have you know that I know what to look for in a car and the assumption that my boyfriend or father made this decision for me is offensive and unnecessary.
i like the new barina. It’s cheap, stylish, easy to park, comfortable seat, nice steror which connect to my mp3 player straight way and heated mirrors. that’s all i want^^