New Car Sales fall in July
5 Aug, 2008
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Following rising interest rates, the increasing price of petrol and the impact of the proposed luxury car tax increase, new car sales for July 2008 have slowed 2.7 per cent compared to the same period last year.
Official VFACTS figures released today by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) indicate that 83,976 new cars, trucks and buses found new owners in July - a shortfall of 2,315 vehicles (2.7%) compared to July 2007.
Either way, the year-to-date figures are still optimistic, being 2.6 per cent above last year’s record highs. Whether or not 2008 will top 2007’s all-time record is still to be seen.
“Higher fuel prices, interest rates and the wider economic uncertainty have resulted in a slowing of people heading to showrooms,” FCAI chief executive Andrew McKellar said.
The 2.7 per cent fall could partially be attributed to the proposed luxury car tax hike, which has led to a 33 per cent decrease in the sales of so-called ‘luxury’ in July compared to June.
“The proposed tax hike has had a devastating impact on new car sales, it is clear that the downturn has been exacerbated by the impact of this unfair tax hike, and the industry has significant concerns that orders will continue to be affected in coming months,” Mr McKellar said.
Mr McKellar emphasis that if the situation continues, the Federal government will fail to collect the additional revenue it had projected, plus there is a very possible risk that the tax hike will cost jobs.
“In these circumstances, one would have to question why the government would pursue this tax increase,” he said.
Segment by segment, most suffered a decrease in sales except for light cars (up 1.0%), SUV medium (up 8.1%), SUV large (up 7.4%). and Light Commercial vehicle (up 6.3 per cent) compared to the same month last year.
Once again Toyota set the benchmark for the month, coming in first with a massive 24.4 per cent of the market share, followed by GM Holden with 13.3 per cent and Ford with 11.3 per cent.
The figures shows the Big T has sold 147,961 new vehicles so far this year with Holden having found 78,271 buyers will Ford is coming in a comfortable third with 63,933 sales.
Toyota also made another landmark, being the first manufacturer to sell more than 20,000 vehicles in the month of July.
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August 5th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
No big surprise there, it was always going to die off and I think its going to die off pretty quickly.
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August 5th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
The STS allows you to write off 15% of the cost of the car in the first year, whether you have it for 1 month or 11+ months.
Therefore, most business buyers who are in the market would be inclined to buy in June and not July.
The LCT hike has no effect in July, despite reporters claiming it does, because the vendors have absorbed the increase so far.
The economy is slowing, people are finally realising that the easy money that was available for a decade isn’t really that easy after all - you do have to repay it. Unlike the USA, in AU you can’t just walk away from it - you do have to repay it.
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August 5th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Can someone please tell me where i can find official australian sales figures???
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August 5th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
By jingo Reckless I think u are right.
How many Hilux Prados were sold?
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August 5th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Quote: “SUV medium (up 8.1%), SUV large (up 7.4%)”
Breaking it down a bit more:
Total SUV -3.5% (SUV Compact was down 12%)
Private 6893, -21.6%
Business 6298, 15.7% 23.0%
Gov’t 1090, 34.6%
Rental 561, 66.0%
So more “people” are not buying SUV’s as the media want you to believe, the fleets are driving this.
Also whilst Private, Govt and Rental passenger sales are down 10-13%, business fleets are up nearly 15%.
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August 5th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Some other interesting stats:
Only 19% of light commercials (Hilux et al) are bought by private buyers.
Private Passenger:
Hybrid DOWN 27%, LPG +141%, Diesel +24%, Petrol -15%
Private Light commercial:
Diesel -23%, LPG +97%, Petrol -3% (So what LPG powered light commercial has doubled its private sales, and BTW increased fleet by 17%?)
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August 5th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
If you want to know the official automotive sales figures try either the Australian Breareau of Statistics.[The one in Canberra that is; NOT the one on this site known as Dingo TP & Tomas Ltd] or even better try VFACTS.
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August 5th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
The Prius (311) has outsold the Mondeo (309)!!! Now i have see it all.
Another good month for Ford, the FG for obvious reasons is the only large car not on the sales slide. Looks like the SUV’s are eroding large car sales.
Bret, do you know if the Business sales include novated leases??
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August 5th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Ha thats really funny Wheelnut.
2 n a bit percent swing is not really a big deal, but the writing is on the wall as far a credit goes. Its been too easy for too long, now we have to pay.
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August 5th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
go the LPG!!!!!!!
where is frugal?????
what is the percentage for bench seat sales??
that ought to really get him hard……..
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August 5th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
FG is new to the market, I would be a problem if it was sliding in sales already I would believe.
And yep credit crunch is hurting in the past few months, even superannuation is not safe, with negative returns happening, feel sorry for the poor sods just about to retire…
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August 5th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
fleet sales are a hard one to judge with commercial vehicles.
there are a lot of people in a trade that can get fleet discounts at any dealer if they flash a certain membership card.
a mate of mine recently saved a few dollars on his new rodeo because he flashed his HIA membership card.
I too will try to get on the fleet price by seeing what i can flash at them. (i better watch though, if i “flash” them i might get a complimentry cell for the night)
my point is,
not all fleet sales mean “company/corporate” fleet sales.
there is a big difference there in the way vehicles are chosen.
good to see the FG sales on the up.
and it must also must be considered that the FG E-Gas range isnt on sale yet, and that the turbo range has only just been released, and the utes werent too far infront of them
the E-Gas range makes up a notable percent of the falcon range nowdays too.
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August 5th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Jobber,
and what about the ones that have to follow in our footsteps???
it isnt getting any easier to start out in life either
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August 5th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
80 - 85% of Falocn and Commodores sales are fleet which is up by about 5% from last year and apparently the Aurion is more popular with private buyers then the Falcon.
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August 5th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
whats your point robbo the toyota bogan???
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August 5th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Aurion sales figures for last month were internally inflated by sales to employees……….read the report so July figures are really what the sales should be…….shit !! FG will ramp up in the next few months but the only problem is that people in Australia have a history of NOT buyng the best car !!! OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE !!!
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August 5th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
the FG falcon is just that much of a better drive than the aurion, and no amount of bitter tears, sales results, or indian phone poll is going to change that
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August 6th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Ahh Robbo, the Commodore has reduced its fleet sales down to 70% with Holden selling alot more higher spec models to private buyers now.
Also, the Aurion bombed in July to around 1300 sales compared to Commodore’s nearly 5000 sales in July.
It is reported on another website Toyota inflated Aurion sales in June with employee demo’s.
We suspected Toyota “buy” market share but now they have been caught red handed.
Just another reason why more and more people are turning off Toyotas……
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August 6th, 2008 at 8:55 am
DEAN,What planet are you on?More and more people turning off Toyota’s.With a 23.6% market share (up 2.36%)Holden on a miserable 12.5%9(down 1.03%) Ford a pathetic 10.02% (down 0.83%)I think every manufacturer in Aus. would love to have people turning off their cars half as much.The reason Toyota dominates the market is that they don’t only have one volume seller but most of the range does very well e.g. 5 of the top 10 selling cars are Toyota’s.I suggest you get your head out of your a…e and get ready for school.
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August 6th, 2008 at 10:31 am
The reason Toyota does so well is the reason Harvey Norman stays in business. There’s too many “middle Australians” boring the life out of themselves and playing it safe. Have you seen some of the fabrics on Harvey Norman couches! If the ratio of owners of ugly Harvey Norman couches and Toyota owners is not 1:1 I’ll be very surprised.
Go Aussie! Go Boring! Go Toyota!
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August 6th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Dean, i’m not sure where your going with that one but if anyone should be concerned it would be Holden. Commodore sales are down 20% on the year, and have continued to slide every year despite the launch of the VE. Remember 5000 use to be a crap month for the commodore, now its a peak. Sales of Holdens Korean range is also down, including the Barina which normally returns short of 1000 per month.
With GM Announcing biblical losses, i would expect another uncertain year for Holden.
“There’s too many “middle Australians” boring the life out of themselves and playing it safe”
Well maybe in 20 years well all be driving white bread bins, I can easily imagine my son asking me if
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August 6th, 2008 at 11:13 am
… continued…
I can easily imagine my son asking me in 20 years , “Hey dad, did you ever own a car with a combustion engine” :)
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August 6th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Too many middle australians? Thats Ford and Holdens bread and butter! The bottom end dont buy new, and the top end rarely buys local. Wake up Liam.
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August 6th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Haha, ease up kids, while I stand by my comments, they were only ever intended to be light hearted.
Neither of you own couches from Harvey Norman do you?! What a bout a rear patio that is over, say, 50m2?
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August 6th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Robbo,
You lying fool. The stats you quote are made up.
The proof is VFACTS does not publish them.
Take your lies elsewhere!
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August 6th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Quote from Reckless1: ‘…Unlike the USA, in AU you can’t just walk away from it - you do have to repay it’
well actually no. :-)
esp in Australia. you dont have to repay anything. and the chance of someone being able to something about it, or going to the trouble of paying $$$ to a lawyer and waiting for courts to assist, is simply laughable.
At any rate, back on topic, it is unlikely that any of the ‘more desirable’ cars which are worth buying (obviously nothing in the Toyota range) will have it’s asking price impacted.
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August 6th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Give it a rest “Go Toyota”.
People buy on perception not on merit. That is due to marketing, reputation, image etc.
Toyota generally make good (boring) cars for the masses. The fact that they are usually short on features, eg no ESP on Corolla, does not register to any buyer whether they are private or fleet. Skinny tyres on Hilux? Nobody picks up on that.. Optional Air Cond on a $46290 Prado??!! Got to be kidding. But that will not stop the masses from buying it.
Next time you’re in a Camry or Aurion, have a look at the misaligned lower part of the dash where the air con/radio controls are..
They buy it because they have heard, or been told they are reliable. Reliability never saved anybodies life as far as I know…
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August 6th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Official VFACTS figures DON’T publish such individual model data, but if we are to believe Drive’s percentages, private sales, Falcon outsold Aurion 3 to 2
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August 6th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Mmmmmm look at all the plastic chrome on that Hilux Prado.
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August 6th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
Is it a bird?
Is it a plane?
No it’s just a rear drive Camaurion.LOL.
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August 6th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
realcars do us all a favour and leave caradvice forever! PLEASE we can not handle any more of your dribble! please take your daiwoo barina and go and dont come back bogan!bogan! bogan! bogan! bogan!
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August 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
and take your bogan mate wheelnut with you! BOGANS!!!!
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August 6th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Wow got a bite.LOL.
Plenty of cardigan wearing boganii driving Toyotas.LOL.
“Will Toyota ever take the pole test?”
Never ceases to amaze me how Toyota can charge a premium for such a mundane product.
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August 6th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
i ask realcars how can holden ask such a premium price for there daiwoo range of sh*t box’s!
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August 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
They don’t.
Try and but a new Corolla with some basic extras for less than 30k on the road!
P.S make sure u are wearing your shabbiest cardigan for the best deal.
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August 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
In a perfect world buyers should be going straight to their Mazda dealer for a Mazda 3!
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August 6th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
New Golf looks tasty at a Corolla price.
The interior of the Corolla is generic Toyota utilitarian like a Hilux grinner for goodness sake.
How can people part with 30 big ones for this crap?
And u Toyotaphiles have the gaul to criticise Korean cars.
At least they don’t way overcharge like Toyota.
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August 6th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
gt2000 (we all know its dingo) if we all had a vote you’d be the 1st booted off this website. So p#ss off and never come back. wanker wanker wanker wanker wanker wanker wanker. See how childish you look.
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August 6th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
hey dad,
mum says you have to stop making up stuff and putting it on this website.
she still cant believe you keep changing your name.
Robbo is understandable because your real name is robert,
but what does dingo, gt2000 ….(and the list goes on)do to prove your credability??
they are on to you dad.
please stop being an embarassment to the family…….
PLEASE?????
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August 6th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Anyway now that Dingo has had his now mandatory Toyota rant can we ALL just ignore him and actually talk about the topic.
I think we’re going to see quite a big drop off in new car sales for the rest of the year especially in the private sector. The used car market has slowed to a crawl so the new car market can’t be far behind.
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August 6th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
(back up above) Andrew, yes its hard for the younger generation, especially in a world where the red tape on things are getting thicker and thicker too, cant do this can’t do that anymore because its going to cause grief to a group of people, to the environment. Its no suprise theres so much ‘bored’ individuals causing violence vandalism these days. Also the trend of more and more people basking away their life on the computer/internet…
Wonder whats its all like in 10, 20 yrs time…
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August 7th, 2008 at 12:27 am
Aaahh perhaps Holden could make some real japanese crap instead of importing Korean crap to compare with Toyotas small range. They could even offer diesels and Wagons to give the consumer a choice. If things go wrong with the products they could ignore recalls to make the stats look good. They could poach Toyotas designers to make the cars look bland and handle poorly.
Reckon I’m onto something here.
Oh yes the sales thingy. Its gotta be the credit crunch stuff going on along with the high price of fuel. Just noticed diesel here has dropped 8pence per litre ~17cents. Sod it i’m off to buy a Yaris.
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August 7th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Funny how you ignored my post Go Toymotor..
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:15 am
hey glen who’s the wanker! insult someone else you prick “I AM NOT DINGO” go to caradvice and check,and you would have to be a ford bogan how’s it feel to be a loser all your life! how about you leave and do everyone a favor!
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:22 am
are glen,realcars & wheelnut the same guy (or girl) you all talk “boganish” and hate the almighty toyota! you will all be old one day saying, see we told you so holden will next year get 1% market share and ford will get 2% but we dont know how toyota does it with 40% ha!ha!ha!
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Gt2000,
Mate you are wasting your time with these falcadore fairies!!
This site has a serious bogan infestation problem, but don’t worry…
In 5 years time there will be no falcodores around for them to go on about!!
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am
GT2000 / WHO EVER YOU ARE TODAY !Unlike the Toyota extremists as yourself on this site, other bloggers dont need to change their names to protect their identity. Im guessing your one of the 3 regulars and I bet if I ask Alborz he will confirm that !
Glen just report him .
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Gt2000,
But then again, seeing as Wheelnut and Realcars both drive old bombs, in 5 years time they still will most likely be driving falcadores!!!
Also its not an insult to be called dingo, that is a guy that has been reminding the bogans of real world published facts and figures… And they all get fluffed, and have big hissy fits after, but not a single one of them has ever came up with a serous counter argument against anything dingo has said so far!! They just want the guy banned, so they can continue living in their ford and holden fantasy world!!
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Tomas, Dingo is banned , CA dont want him on the site understand THAT! You”ll be next with a bit of luck .
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:58 am
bavarian why ban someone who has different belief’s to you how about ban you! what for you say, well why not that’s your belief isnt it!everyone who comes on this site has a say it is a free site! not just you and your bogan mates ok!
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August 7th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
bavarian stop living in bogansville when i accessed this site “CA” there where no join up fees so IT’S A FREE SITE if you cant cop that how about you leave! there’s an old saying “if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen” and you are on fire buddy! OK!
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August 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
and to finish of “bavarian whistle” i came on here because i have been siting back reading all the dribble about bogan motor company (holden & ford) and as a lover of the BEST MOTOR COMPANY IN THE WORLD “TOYOTA” i felt it was my right say whatever i want about those low life products and as i have already said that is my right! TOYOTA RULES OK! and as i have already stated i am not dingo just another toyota lover just like the large majority of australians!
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August 7th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Dingo you are an idiot, you just claimed it wasn’t you and you just admitted it with that last post.
Lets get things straight, I don’t hate toyotas in fact I’ve said it before they make good quality but unexciting cars. Not my cup of tea. What I hate is that you toyotaphiles keep hijacking each and everyone of the comments sections by saying anyone who stands up to your personal attacks and selective facts is a bogan plain and that because they’re opinion is different to yours its lies, biased. And whenever someone does counter your argument with facts you don’t reply you just childishly call them names.
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August 7th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
GT2000 get a grip! Yes its a free to site to access but sponsors pay to be on this site and when idiots come on here running down people calling them name insulting them and their families like Dingo does it hardly makes a manufacturer want to continue sponsoring a site where Toyota extremists continue on about “THE WORLDS BEST MOTOR COMPANY” running every other one down! This is why Dingo is banned and keeps coming back under a different name ,if you notice his posts always get deleted,why do think that is?mmmmmmm? Cause CA dont want them read,it degrades and devalues the site!
Oh and if you really were watching this site you would know Im female not a bloke,Dingos comments are mostly based on surveys and self opinions not facts its when others that dont even drive Holden Fords in some cases like me at the moment start to be insulted from the likes of you cause you simply dont have the people skills or knowledge to retaliate except with insults,THAT MATE IS WHY PEOPLE LIKE YOU DINGO AND TOMAS ,will continue to be banned,nothing to do with your believes.
Keep going on and you will soon see what Im talking about!
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August 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
so let me get this right, it ok for bavarian, realcars glen or wheelnut to insult someone and not get banned (as you call it) but if someone who likes toyota and has an opinion say something they get banned! how is this fair can you answer that! or does CA only want this as a holden & ford forum! i dont think so! i have as much right as anyone to voice my opinion THIS SITE IS JUST NOT FOR BOGANS!
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August 7th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
There are insults and insults GT2000,I mean why call me a Bogan? I live in upmarket suburb,drive a M3 wear designer clothes and finished my education? Your insulting me for no other reason but to feel good about yourself!
Where did Wheelnut insult you ?
And get over the bogan comments ,if you actually looked up the meaning you will see old Toyota’s also fall into the “bogan “category for drivers choice,so your insulting yourselves as well !
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August 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Geez this article responses has really gone to the sh$t hasn’t it lol.
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August 7th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
BM, he only calls us bogans because he doesn’t have the intellect to actually think of anything else. He probably read someone else’s post and thought “yeah thats funny”.
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August 7th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Yeah joober it has and it happens all too often. You may have noticed that it goes to sh*t the minute the toyotamafia start posting, they turn every single post into a “Not as good as Toyota” topic everytime and if you have the gaul to disagree with them you’re a bogan apparently.
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August 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
hey glen correct me if i am wrong didnt this post read in some part!”toyota set the benchmark again for the month” so how did i highjack it! it’s about amongst other things toyota’s record 20,000 cars! so i way i see it YOU HIGHJACKED THIS SITE!
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August 7th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Because Dingo go to the other posts that have NOTHING to do with Toyota in the slightest and you do exactly the same thing over and over again. Same with the other toyotaphiles on here. And once again you proved my point, you have no intelligent comebacks, the best you can come up with is that I highjacked this site without giving one example.
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August 7th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Gt2000,
Don’t waste your energy on these bogans, thats the same old tired spin they use all time. We hijack the blogs, yet nearly every blog on caradvice starts of with them bagging toyotas, regardless how unrelated the toyotas are…
Have a look for your self!!
I seriously reckon Realcars and Bavarian missile purely come here just to argue, they never give any technical details, or provide any information to backup their claims, which are objective at best!!!
Bavarian Missile Says: ” I live in upmarket suburb,drive a M3 wear designer clothes and finished my education?”
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHEH…. Don’t you live up in the Perth hills, AKA boganville? I guess Pepermint grove has nothing on armadale and surrounding area!! :-)Also isn’t your car 10 years or more old? Typical boganmobile!!
Bavarian Missile Says:”if you notice his posts always get deleted”
I have noticed so do yours and wheellnuts!!
Anyway Gt2000, Lets just hope they follow holden and Fords lead and just disappear!!
anyway, thats it from here, Unlike them I’m a true Automobile enthusiasts, I’m here to read about automobiles, and not to deal with muppets…
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August 7th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Geeeez this go toyoda bloke is having a cry maybe its time to put some salt on those deep wounds.
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August 7th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Dingo I’ve been doing this the entire time. I have always stayed on topic unless one of you lot come on here and attack anyone else. I’ve got no problem with you stating facts but the fact is when someone says anything bad about Toyota’s you fly off the handle and start calling everone bogans. Then you keep changing your name to give the illusion that other people are supporting you which is just plain childish.
Here’s a fact, out of the 3 Local brands Ford is the only one recording growth in passenger car sales this year up to july. Have a look on VFACTS if you want.
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August 7th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Quote [Tomas79]: But then again, seeing as Wheelnut and Realcars both drive old bombs, in 5 years time they still will most likely be driving falcadores!!!
You either suffer from amnesia or like most Toyophiles on here only read the few parts of people’s comments that you want to or you understand.
Because on a number of topics I have mentioned that I drive a White 02 Subaru Impreza 2.5 Litre RS Sedan ..
You know Subaru the ones your beloved Toyota turned to for some know-how and assistance as to how to build a real performance hot hatch one which they aren’t going to sell outside of Japan but Subaru will.
Which is quite sad really considering that Toyota are the wealthiest car company in the world.
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August 7th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Quote [Tomas 79] dingo, is a guy that has been reminding the bogans of real world published facts and figures… And they all get fluffed, and have big hissy fits after, but not a single one of them has ever came up with a serious counter argument against anything dingo has said so far!!
We have made several serious well founded arguements to counter what Dingo and his many split personalities has GONE ON about on this site..
However; he has a habit of only reading half the story or certain parts of it; taking things out of context thereby either mis*-understanding or mis-interpreting the message and GOES OFF again - yet due to his inablilities etc he resorts to personal attacks and insults… hence his comments get deleted [way more than anyone elses]
It seems the Toyo-philes [not just Dingo] can dish it out but they just can’t take it - what do they expect when he degrades another make on no other grounds other than the fact that they don;t drive one or it doesn’t have a Toyota badge on it.. They should expect those who are fans of the other make to come back at him in a similar fashion
Yet the most Ironic thing about Dingo and the other Toyo-philes is when the discussions which eventually turn into arguements they say there is no need for the insults; ask that we get back on topic and accept/respect other peoples opinions…. I mean you’ve got to laugh at that one
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August 7th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Tomas you need to take a long look at yourself mate,the way your sounding is typical of an uneducated git with no other way to retaliate than too abuse people! I live in Kalamunda hardly Boganville,yes I own a 10 year old M3 but for your info it was bought as a Sunday car not my everyday driver its my toy !I think we are all starting to understand what toy you enjoy playing with and its not your poverty pac Prado,hate to think what your Prado will be worth in 10 years mate not to mention I hate to think how much you will have to spend on it keeping it on the road.
Dingo I dont know why you keep coming back when you clearly can see CA dont want you here,how many times do they have to keep blocking you?
Tomas says “Unlike them I’m a true Automobile enthusiasts, I’m here to read about automobiles, and not to deal with muppets…
Reply hahahaha……….yeah right we all no what you drive that proves how much of an enthusiast you are! In your 29 years of life so far tell us all of your so called experiences in owning and driving cars,Id be most interested in hearing about them all!
In regard to sales this month seems the Country has started a down turn in its economy not only in car sales but in retail sales as well, not good .
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August 7th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Quote [Tomas79 - again] Don’t waste your energy on these bogans, thats the same old tired spin they use all time. We hijack the blogs, yet nearly every blog on caradvice starts of with them bagging toyotas, regardless how unrelated the toyotas are…
What are there 2 websites called www.caradvice.com.au?
Because most topics on this site actually start-off with comments which actually relate to the car which the article is about - as not every topic on here is about Toyotas… or not at thebeginning anyway.
Qoverall the comments are made in a civilised adult like manner; this goes on for about 20 comments or so… and then it stops.
Why - Dingo makes his appearance and if the article is about a car which isn’t a Toyota [and there are a fair few cars out there that aren’t Toyotas] he degrades the look of the car the build quality or the reliability of it even if he hasn;t driven it etc… which he wouldn’t because it’s not a Toyota..
He never has anything positive to say about any other car. Yet calls himself a car enthusiast.
He has asked me to make a positive comment in relation to Toyota - all I can say to that is Qui Pro Quo!
We know Dingo “LOVES” Toyotas as much as the rest of yus love our Fords Holdens Mitsubishis Subarus Mazdas etc.. Yet the fact that his comments take the focus away from the car which the article is about and onto Toyota gives the impression that he knows nothing else about any other manufacturer. If he did [which he claims he does] you would expect that he would be able to talk about it and stay on topic… wouldn;t you?
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August 7th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
CarAdvice could always consider expanding their monthly sales reports to give a rundown on say, how the top 10 makes are performing compared to last year and year to date, which may give its readers more to talk about. Simply being like all the other news outlets that tell us that Toyota has won the month from Holden and Ford is hardly news. Tell us how other makes are going in your reports.
What hasn’t been reported was how some big players really bombed sales-wise last month, Mitsubishi in particular. Honda and Hyundai also had bad months after performing very well in June.
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August 7th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Spot on Tomas. Toyota folk are the ones providing the facts and figures here. There is one reason why the Ford camp dont. Because they dont have anything to back up their poor excuses for automobiles.
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August 7th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
TP,
the real reason you keep talking rubbish is because you are still trying to convince yourselves let alone others……..
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August 7th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
ok fellow toyota lads,
here is the plan.
we will sit around and firstly convince ourselves of our own rot (as Andrew M just said).
then we will have a session of making up alias’s so they think there is more than just 2 of us.
that way, we will see enormous exponential growth as each of our alias’s creates another alias to try and fool the other folks…..
just stick with me guys,
if you stick to my plan, before we know it there will be endless unbelievable rot spread all over the website.
and once our alias head count is through the roof, it will seem like they are in the minority.
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August 7th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
OK Dingo,
here are some facts you find hard to digest.
falcon is safer better engineered and much much better to drive than the aurion.
got a problem with that???
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August 7th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Ha ha ha ha
seems like Dingo (Go toyota) spoke that one above out loud.
did you forget you were on air Dingo???
ha ha ha ha ha very funny
at least now i will back up your honesty
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Hey Andrew waisting your time cause CA are deleting his posts as he goes anyway,\\\”stick with me guys\\\”hahaha what all 3 of you,seems your out numbered by non Toyota lovers,is that telling you that you can rant and preach as much as you like but all you are achieving is the rest of HATING TOYOTA more from you ramming it down everyones throats not all of us use to hate Toyota stories but we all do now cause of you. Your Toyota promotion is a failure,perhaps you should show more T&A like the rest of us Promo girls have had too over the years to be heard,with the eyes of course!
Now someone remind me how CAs test with the big 4s went and who won? Was that a Toyota? I do believe it was a Ford and whats that other story about 5 star safety rating thats currently in the new stories about? Is that a Ford? Now what was that you were saying about poor excuses for automobiles TP ?
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
You been drinking Dingo - We all know you get lairy when you had a few.
So why has Toyotas market share fallen in both Australia AND the UK last momth? Iy you can still type reasoned answers in you alchoholic haze.
Said me trying to get this back on topic.
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Could the reason we haven;t accepted you “Challenge” is even if we did it would get to the point where because of your delusions of grandeur etc you will convince yourself that you are winning the discussion/debate etc even if/when you’re not.. or you will only read what you want to read take things out of context mis-interpret the message etc as you do so regularly
The other thing is that you won;t be able to help yourself and will refer to some kind of survey. surveys which are not FACT but are based on opinion which stem from emotions thereby contradicting your statement of not involving emotion.
So really there is no point.. Dingo
Besides the majority of us on here are adults and it takes more of a man to stand by his word and to walk-away then to accept a challenge from a schoolyard bully trying to show how superior he is when infact like most schoolyard bullies have an inferiority complex
The fact you change your name so often to try and back up your statements etc porves this
I mean if anyone accepts your challenge [which I doubt anyone will] they’ll be like the idiots who think they have to try prove to others how good their car is [or how good they think it is] by taking part in street drag racing.. whereas a real man knows how good his car is and doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone.
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
sorry, cant help myself for one more.
since you are on the Facts and references wagon,
perhaps you could refer me to where i rubbish ANCAP…..
when you do, you better make sure its based on “Facts” with a well supported reference.
the only “fact” you just stated, is that the aurion emitts less CO2.
im sure you will find more references supporting the FG falcon as the higher quality and more refined example.
check out the reviews, they even put the falcon as the most economical of the bunch.
where is your claims to what you just said…..
stop speaking rot and prove what you just said.
the only thing you dont need to prove to me is the CO2 thing
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Delusions of grandeur…
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
“i am making an attempt to bring better quality to this site..”
I mean, sheeeeeeeesh…words, for once, fail me!
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Hey,
Leave my Daddy alone.
Mum says at least if he is on this web site talking rot, then he isnt in the kitchen hitting her.
And also, i dont have to hide in the cupboard as much
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Quote “aurion emits less CO2.” Gee where getting down to the real car enthusiast stuff now,carbon foot prints!Any one know what a dog emits in CO2 a year?
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Aah BM no CO2 - but methane at a gues about 2-3m3. Less than an Aurion at half throttle.
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
BM,
a toyota dog emitts 30 tonnes
where as a ford and holden dog emitts 300 tonnes
the extra bonus is that toyota dogs can do surveys too
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
^^^
my daddy taught me that one
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
hahaha………arrrrrrr methane,of course No Name ,its all hot air I guess and pollutes the air!
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August 7th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Dingo,
please be refered to CA’s comparison between the FG and Aurion.
there is a local reference for you….
now you can refer me to an article where the FG and aurion have been tested side by side where the aurion proved to be more economical……..
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August 7th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
There are many tests where the Aurion has one. I note that the Aurion has been voted Drives car of the year for two years now. I dont see any reason why that would change with the FG as we all know its prity much the same as the outgoing model. If anything its worse as we all know they say its 90% new, but the Aurion is 100% new no second hand parts!
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Wheelnut Says:” Because most topics on this site actually start-off with comments which actually relate to the car which the article is about - as not every topic on here is about Toyotas… or not at thebeginning anyway.
Qoverall the comments are made in a civilised adult like manner; this goes on for about 20 comments or so… and then it stops.
Why - Dingo makes his appearance and if the article is about a car which isn’t a Toyota [and there are a fair few cars out there that aren’t Toyotas] he degrades the look of the car the build quality or the reliability of it even if he hasn;t driven it etc…”
Wheelnut, I respect that you are trying to communicate in an adult manner, but we all know what you just said above is a complete and utter lie!!
Let’s look at his blog for example…
Comment #4 (First dig aimed at Toyota)
realcars Says:
“How many Hilux Prados were sold?”
Comment #7 (First Personal insult aimed at TP, Go Toyota, and myself)
Wheelnut Says:
“If you want to know the official automotive sales figures try either the Australian Breareau of Statistics.[The one in Canberra that is; NOT the one on this site known as Dingo TP & Tomas Ltd] or even better try VFACTS. “
So you already insulted us on this blog, and we haven’t even said anything !!!
And it’s exactly the same thing, but even in a more direct manner on all the other blogs!!
Don’t make refer to them also!!
Wheelnut Says:
“He never has anything positive to say about any other car. Yet calls himself a car enthusiast.!”
Umm… Do you need some sclerosis medication or something?? Cos I can clearly remember him upping the falcon, and heaps of other non-toyota cars!!
Wheelnut Says: “You either suffer from amnesia or like most Toyophiles on here only read the few parts of people’s comments that you want to or you understand. Because on a number of topics I have mentioned that I drive a White 02 Subaru Impreza 2.5 Litre RS Sedan ..”
HEhehehe….. Nah, I remember and your point is?? My younger brother is selling his 06 impreza WRX, and he has been selling it for last 3 months! Heheheh, although I do agree it’s a bit harsh to be calling it an old bomb…
Wheelnut Says: “We have made several serious well founded arguements to counter what Dingo and his many split personalities has GONE ON about on this site..”
Saying that toyotas are bland and boring vehicles the handle bad, is an objective opinion, not a well founded argument!! And let me not even get started on realcars!!
And as for split personalities, Just take a look at this blog, does GO Toyota impersonate anyone else?? Does Bavarian Missile impersonate Dingo’s Son?? Or Go Toyota himself??! …Bloody hell, This is what you get if you make her chain long enough to reach out of the kitchen!!! ;-)
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Sorry bad editing
Wheelnut Says:” Because most topics on this site actually start-off with comments which actually relate to the car which the article is about - as not every topic on here is about Toyotas… or not at thebeginning anyway.
Qoverall the comments are made in a civilised adult like manner; this goes on for about 20 comments or so… and then it stops.
Why - Dingo makes his appearance and if the article is about a car which isn’t a Toyota [and there are a fair few cars out there that aren’t Toyotas] he degrades the look of the car the build quality or the reliability of it even if he hasn;t driven it etc…”
Wheelnut, I respect that you are trying to communicate in an adult manner, but we all know what you just said above is a complete and utter lie!!
Let’s look at his blog for example…
Comment #4 (First dig aimed at Toyota)
realcars Says:
“How many Hilux Prados were sold?”
Comment #7 (First Personal insult aimed at TP, Go Toyota, and myself)
Wheelnut Says:
“If you want to know the official automotive sales figures try either the Australian Breareau of Statistics.[The one in Canberra that is; NOT the one on this site known as Dingo TP & Tomas Ltd] or even better try VFACTS. “
So you already insulted us on this blog, and we haven’t even said anything !!!
And it’s exactly the same thing, but even in a more direct manner on all the other blogs!!
Don’t make refer to them also!!
Wheelnut Says:
“He never has anything positive to say about any other car. Yet calls himself a car enthusiast.!”
Umm… Do you need some sclerosis medication or something?? Cos I can clearly remember him upping the falcon, and heaps of other non-toyota cars!!
Wheelnut Says: “You either suffer from amnesia or like most Toyophiles on here only read the few parts of people’s comments that you want to or you understand. Because on a number of topics I have mentioned that I drive a White 02 Subaru Impreza 2.5 Litre RS Sedan ..”
HEhehehe….. Nah, I remember and your point is?? My younger brother is selling his 06 impreza WRX, and he has been selling it for last 3 months! Heheheh, although I do agree it’s a bit harsh to be calling it an old bomb…
Wheelnut Says: “We have made several serious well founded arguements to counter what Dingo and his many split personalities has GONE ON about on this site..”
Saying that toyotas are bland and boring vehicles the handle bad, is an objective opinion, not a well founded argument!! And let me not even get started on realcars!!
And as for split personalities, Just take a look at this blog, does GO Toyota impersonate anyone else?? Does Bavarian Missile impersonate Dingo’s Son?? Or Go Toyota himself??! …Bloody hell, This is what you get if you make her chain long enough to reach out of the kitchen!!! ;-)
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Dingo say “Toyota has historically been a far superior company for engineering higher quality cars then Holden and Ford so refer me to those articles that have stated otherwise and i reserve no-doubt the Aurion will prove to be considerably more reliable and dependable.”
Where’s your proof? That doesn’t sound like fact to me. You are basing your assumption on a reptutation. How can you honestly say that the Aurion is going to be more reliable or dependable than an FG Falcon? The FG has only been around for 4 months. And no-one yet has refuted my argument on those so-called “leaked surveys”.
And where have I ever made up anything on this site?
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Oh come on TP - new Falcon the same as the old one. Seriously go read all the CA articles on the Falcon and digest them this time. You’ll realise that that comment was completely inaccurate. It may look vaguely the same but lets me tell you a secret….its different.
Read the comparo - Falcon has its faults but read the last line ITS BETTER THAN THE AURION. PERIOD.
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Stop bleating Thomas old man - boring beyond repetition.
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Thomas79, that last comment is uncalled for, I don’t believe you know BM well enough to get away that comment.
Thomas79 says “Saying that toyotas are bland and boring vehicles the handle bad, is an objective opinion, not a well founded argument!! And let me not even get started on realcars!!”
And saying that Falcons and commodores are unreliable and such isn’t an objective opinion?
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
This is nuts… FG hasnt been out that long, and yet there hasnt been any bad issues recalls, even more so it been awarded 5 stars through ancap, I can see no reason why the FG will be the upcoming car of the year, and its early days to judge it being unrealiable and perhaps it will be reliable and even more reliable than any Commodore or Aurion who knows…
As it stands its a better car than any of the competitors this time round.
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Glen Says: “And saying that Falcons and commodores are unreliable and such isn’t an objective opinion?”
Not if it is backed up by the reports!!
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August 7th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Glen Says:”Thomas79, that last comment is uncalled for, I don’t believe you know BM well enough to get away that comment.”
Glen, don’t get your panties in a knot!!
You mean, she can dish out crap, yet never take any?!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 12:02 am
Well tomas your basing your opinion on how you’ve interpreted those reports, and going on by previous postings of yours is wrong. I distinctly remember you saying that 55 percent of falcons are returned in the 1st 5 months of ownership because of engine failures. Whereas that report states that 51 percent of Falcons are returned to the dealership in the 1st 5 months of ownership without any note of why they were returned apart from a “fault”. Plus I just saw that “recent” survey news was from May 2007.
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August 8th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Correction that particular survey was done from Jan-Jun 2006, so a 2 year old survey which preceeded the VE Commodore and BF2 Falcon.
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August 8th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Spot on GO TOYOTA!!
Also Glen, Wheelnut, please let me know what steps did Ford take inorder to improve the quality of the new FG falcon, as opposed previous model??
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August 8th, 2008 at 1:34 am
I personally have a problem with the results of JD surveys, they are based on the owners ideas of their cars and there personal results of customer cars and reliability.
I quote a Honda rep at the recent London motor show. “we did not fare well in the JD survey this year we were marked down for minor problems like the Civics fuel flap cover failing to open and build quality rattles”. Items like these punters remember but they are hardly considered to be substantial faults affecting real day to day reliabillity.
I personally do not pay much attention to JD results.
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August 8th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Thomas79 said”Also Glen, Wheelnut, please let me know what steps did Ford take inorder to improve the quality of the new FG falcon, as opposed previous model?? ”
How are they supposed to verify that. You really are a twat of the highest order.
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August 8th, 2008 at 2:26 am
Dingo
1. Can’t seem to find that one
2. Or this one
3. Funny not this one either
4. This is the 2 year old survey I was talking about dropkick.
Seriously the only thing google is picking up is that old survey so that leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions.
1. Either im looking in the wrong place or
2. The results have not been released and your pulling things out of your backside again
And going on previous experience with you I’d be thinking more of conclusion 2.
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:46 am
Gee some need to get some stiff hard uppercuts with there twisted beliefs…..where is Reg Reagan?
When one reads comments by twerp TP, beverage sloshed Dingo and Thomarse its easy to shake head at the weirdo twist and belief system that there pin suited google glass wearing gene pool brought them up on as a grasshopper little un! They blurb they espouse is a laugh and a half and deluded at times!
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August 8th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Naughtyius Maxiumus and No Name,
If you little idiots have nothing intelligent to add, don’t waste our time!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Thomarse………..gee whiz cyber geek the World does not revolve around Toyota bubble boys like you! Have an opinion and stick at it. Go back through and assess your comments before you throw mud back. Toyo Tosser!
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August 8th, 2008 at 9:30 am
here we go i will stick to the post! yes the market was down in july but that is normal for the first month of the new financial year there always is a pull forward in june. from my sources the market will remain slow till september then the usual end of year push the biggest mover in july was mazda and it looks like ford will be there next conquest, because they want the 3 spot in the market! toyota is way to far in front for holden to even worry about but the new ford may take some share of them but ford should watch out for mazda! there i did it!
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August 8th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Go Toyoda Sewing Machines Co Pty Ltd, Thomas79 and TP are all miners and one person named Dingo Dog from Drive.com, they don’t visit that site anymore because everyone are sick of thier boring bland survey dribble, so hopefully CA can ban these idiots and make CA a more pleasing place, the cars they drive are mining fleet Lolux’s and old tech Crapry’s, question is how in hell can any claims of being a enthusiast be true, go back to Drive.com where all this boring toyleta advertising dribble belongs.
Toyoda are the most boring bland overrated crap boxes to ever grace Australian roads, so why do people buy them, thats easy, the marketing is spot on luring people who don’t care what they drive.
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August 8th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Hey NM nice to see hear from you ,if only Tomas knew what you and No Name looked like ,I doubt he would be such a hero in person if he did!
Quote “Ford should watch out for Mazda”,I think you mean Toyota don’t you? As Ford own a major share in Mazda I don’t think they have anything to worry about somehow.
Thanks for the support Glen,I owe you one babe!
Tomas as Ive mentioned before there are insults and insults you went below the belt,and for your info I was not doubling as Dingos son last night.Still waiting for you to prove yourself as car enthusiast. Oh and you have been reported,so keep it up mate you’ll find yourself banned.
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August 8th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Boohooo… Bavarian Missile, you want a tissue?!
I have started reporting all your, and your buddies off topic crap too!! And there is way more around, then what i have posted!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Quote Dingo
“JD Powers 2007 Quality / Customer survey of Western Australian Motorists”
I remeber the one, thats the one that serveyed 0.015% (yes thats the real number)of new car owners, so it must be real accurate - not.
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August 8th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Tomas I dont care about the off topic crap that you seem so fond to post,Im talking about the insults that you seem to continue to revert to in every post when you dont have a constructive thing to say!
Back on topic.
Australia has but a cold when it comes to a down turn, compared to the full dose of the flu the US has at present.
The US market that has taken an absolute tumble in SUVs not excluding Toyota’s with a huge deficit of 27 per cent in truck and four-wheel drives,Toyota has also announced that its operating profit took a 39% plunge from lower sales in both the United States and Europe, the increased value of the Yen and higher cost of raw materials I guess haven’t helped! Just as well they Toyota have the Prius to fall back on in the States!
Something interesting I watch earlier today was the fuel consumption comparison test between a GXL Petrol Cruiser and a Diesel one.The cost difference of $10,000 between the two meant that you would have to have the diesel FOR 12 YEARS before you would start to recoup your money back in fuel savings,$10,000 difference in price,hard to justify spending it unless your after more torque for towing!
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August 8th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
BM,
Thats a lot of trips to school and the soccer oval!
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August 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Bavarian Missile,
By “off topic crap” i mean off topic personal insults, which you and your buddies tend to do a lot on here!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
As for Diesel Landcruiser costing more to up keep then a Petrol one, that is old news, and it all depends what you are planning to use it for.
Let’s not forget that most modern diesel these days have a service interval equal to their petrol conterparts. Eg. 10,000Km. And with diesels the fuel consumption increases at a significantly lower rate to a petrol engine, with respect to an increase in load. So the fuel economy is even better in diesels, when towing or offroad.
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August 8th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
i agree tomas79 we try to be constructive and still get abused i am just waiting for the so called CA ban for the constant abuses! AND ITS NOT US!
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August 8th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Hey Brett who keeps a car for 12 years anyway,absolute false economy.
Tomas point is in case you’ve missed it is if your thinking of buying a diesel Cruiser cause their more fuel efficient dont bother unless your planning on keeping it forever.
Oh and GT2000 dont make me laugh you sound like the innocent party when like your other 2 counterparts you 3 are the worst of them all,shall I do a search to remind you of the below the belt insults you’ve mentioned regarding me,cause at no stage have I dropped to your level! Lets see how long it will take for you both to start shall we!
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August 8th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Bavarian Missile,
No you didn’t have a point, you just dribbled fluff!!
It won’t take you 12 years to make up the saving, and it all depends on what you are using it for!!
All so, be more specific, as i told you before there is too many landcruisers around!! And even more petrol and engine configurations to choose from!! With some diesels you can start making savings from day one, given the difference in fuel price and consumptions, so don talk sh1t!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Gee that didnt take you long to start with insults did it Tomas,point proven you think!
Sorry I didn’t know I had to be PERFECTLY clear for you to comprehend what I was getting at,both vehicles were 200 series and the comparison was done by Wheels magazine ,I would imagine he would have been taking the average ks covered a year into account when comparing both of them.So I have no idea how you think I was talking sh1t when I was stating facts,you do know what FACTS are don’t you ? Other wise perhaps you could enlighten me in how you can recoup $10,000 the moment you start driving the Diesel version ,mmmmmm
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August 8th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Good point BM and although obvious seems to escape Thomas69.
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August 8th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Anyway Thomas69 paid 65k for a Hilux which says it all really.LOL.
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August 8th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Thomas69 is your Hilux diesel or petrol?
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August 8th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
65K for a Hilux! WHAT A DILL (not the herb)! The more they blurb the deeper they get away with pixies!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Only the depth varies with these Toyo Pullers! LMAO
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August 8th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Um Dingo I was talking cars,seems you have started your post with rot not me! As you side kick Tomas doesn’t have an answer for me perhaps you can enlighten me with your answer to the question I put forward to him,without insults preferably!
You do service them after all!
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August 8th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Trouble is most on here are obsessed with one car maker…..a car enthusiast like myself truly does not support one car maker. I have always stated the Yaris shytes all over over curved Mazda 2 as way curvy and overdone! I support the new Falcon over Aurion now whereas before Aurion was at top with previous model Falcon and VE Commodore. Unlike you wallies with your Toyotas deep deep deep down your have Toyota’s in your genes!
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August 8th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Get that Toyota doll outta you backside and smell the look of being a car enthusiast!
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August 8th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
What was the question and i will answer it !!
I’m not longout of bed and haven’t read all the posts.
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August 8th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
You want me to what Dingo?
Enter a p1ssing contest with you,what is that going to prove?
Being a one brand hero and lover doesn’t make you knowledgeable, I would prefer to class myself as a performance car enthusiast and owner of many makes, not just a reader of articles that you form opinions from!
Have to shoot off ,but Ill be back!
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August 8th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Bavarian Missile Says: ” I have no idea how you think I was talking sh1t when I was stating facts,you do know what FACTS are don’t you Other wise perhaps you could enlighten me in how you can recoup $10,000 the moment you start driving the Diesel version ,mmmmmm ”
As i said, “With some diesels you can start making savings from day one”
Case 1) Prado Standard, is the cheapests trim of the Prado range, and comes only in diesel!! Given that the fuel ADR figure of the diesel is 9.2/100km and 13.5l/100km for the petrol! And todays cheapest price on fuelwatch is $1.719 per L for diesel 1.421 per L for petrol.
Therefore Per 100km the diesel costs $15.81 dollars, while for Petrol the distance costs is $19.18.
And yes, they both have a service interval of 10,000Km
Hows that for facts?!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Realcars, calling a Prado a Hilux only shows your dum you really, and should be banned for trying to steer up arguments!! CAR ADVICE please take note!!
Also, i would prefer the Prado to share the hiluxes platform, you dill!! Especially the chassis!! But it doesn’t!!
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August 8th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Your forgetting one vital ingredient…..you support Toyota and cant chat to someone some worked up that have to call themself GO TOYOTA and whatnot! Your the one obsessed about one car maker and not me! So wake up.
Fact….I like the Hyundai i30 over all others, ditto Yaris over Mazda 2, ditto new Falcon over all overs, Mazda 6 over all others, I like Hyundai and Kia how they refresh model range and design look they now go down. You are more absorbed in your Toyota bubble world….and look at miniscule things on cruising the geeksville internet superhighway!
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August 8th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Looks and first impressions count! I want to be seen in a refreshed vibrant alive look and not a sedate look!
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
GO Toyota,
Thanks for your support, Yep, I have the new 3.0L D4d Prado, with the 5 speed auto gear box, with 34% more power, and 2L/100km lower consumption.Just got it 3 months ago, after ordering it and waiting for it for over 6 months, on pradopoint forum, there is people having to wait 9 months for certain models…
Yeah, the hilux is a brilliant ute, and in a personal opion, the only good looking one on the Australian market!!
If i was in the market for a ute, I’d definitively get a Hilux!! I’d even consider the TRD!
Will a a HSV maloon get you to your favourite fishing spot??
See how the Hiluxes, and the 79/78 series utes simply just dominate mine sites!! I wonder why ford or holdens aren’t successfull in this sector??They have been around longer, and with the government subsidies they are daily fed, and with the local development they claim they do, they should have been able to tople toyota easily??!
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
1. This is not a game and nothing to do with showing you up
2. You are too really focussed on Toyota (always)
3. Looks and design are not high on your list
4. Your comments at times odd as
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Quote [Din-Go Toyota]:Glen - the VE Commodore has performed poorly were Quality, reliability and depndable is the topic and has been heavily critised accordingly, i can list a dozen faults striaght of the cuff now.
I have a new magazine at present titled ‘Australian New Car Buyer’ and it heavily critises the VE bigtime.
When i get home in the morning i will be happy to quote the numerous comments were they slam the poor quality and unreliable nature of the Commodore.
Yet the FACT remains; despite all that the VE still managed to win Wheels Car Of The Year award 2 times in a row beating all other cars available on the Australian market including BMWs and Toyotas… So your point is?
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Gee Tomas not sure how many times I have to repeat myself,at no point did I say the Diesel wasn’t cheaper to run what I said was to recoup the extra 10k you spend on it its going to take you 12 years………so again how am talking sh1t?
Oh and as far as the Rollux goes on mine sites………pffttt they have just started using them again on most mine sites here in the WEST due to the amount of roll overs they had in the past,but thats an argument Dingo still denies to this day even though an engineer mate of mine from Rio here in the West has profusely explained on many a time to Dingo! Oh and that engineer mate of mine ordered a Prado Grande last year waiting time 2 weeks,waiting time for the BF GT he ordered at the same time that sold out in 2 weeks, 2 months !
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Drive has voted the Aurion car of the year for two years now. A more credible source then Wheels or should I say Commodore Magazine.
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
QUOTE [Din-Go Toyota] Bavarian - wether CA wants me here or not is not revalent as they provide a service to the community
How is it a community service. I mean meals on wheels is a community service as they provide food for those who are unable to cook for themselves who are usually elderly and live on their own. How does CA improve anyones life let alone provide them with the necessities to survive etc?
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
TP….Aurion is good but coming behind new Falcon. The new Falcon looks better then an Aurion and it is now much better on safety, looks and design. It is now world class heaps.
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Quote Tomas - Will a a HSV maloon get you to your favourite fishing spot??
The maloo doesn’t have to get me to my favourite fishing spot….. I don’t have one! as I regard fishing to be nearly as boring as Curling.
Not only that I am a car enthusiast - If you like fishing so much go to www.itwasthisbig.com
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
um Paul, Drives car of the year is the BMW M3! Not the Aurion!
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August 8th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Hey Tomas79 - I wouldn’t bag Old Commodores or Falcons that much if I was you because given that petrol is expected to exceed $2.50 a litre and you will be lucky to get more than $14k for you TOORAK TRACTOR.. It could well be that a EB Falcon or VL Commodore is all you will be able to afford - given tht they last longer and there are still more of them
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August 8th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Drives LARGE car of the year. NM better in looks? No. The Falcon is by no means an ugly car but conservative styling has meant that it looks like the outgoing model with a few more curves
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August 8th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Ford Ranger is a fantastic ute, and in my personal opinion, the only good looking one on the Australian market!!
If I was in the market for a ute, I’d definitively buy a Ford Ranger.
Will a overrated Toyoda get you to your favourite fishing spot?? Hmmmmmmmm NO WAY because it is labeled as boring, bland, whitegood transport you would die of boredom after 20 Kms of driving !!!!!!!!!!!!!
See how the Ranger’s, and the Falcon series utes simply just dominate building sites!! I wonder why Toyoda aren’t successfull in this sector?? They have been around longer, and with the government subsidies they are daily fed, and with the local development they claim they do, they should have been able beat Ford into submission, but I guess For