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		<title>By: curious88</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/15270/consumers-move-towards-e10-fuel/#comment-293538</link>
		<dc:creator>curious88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 00:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi im doing a SGP on the advantages and disadvantages of E10 fuel i was wondering if anyone could help me out with any websites or sources of information i could use. I would like to get all angles on the subject if possible i would greatly appreciate the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi im doing a SGP on the advantages and disadvantages of E10 fuel i was wondering if anyone could help me out with any websites or sources of information i could use. I would like to get all angles on the subject if possible i would greatly appreciate the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Slaski</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/15270/consumers-move-towards-e10-fuel/#comment-278527</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Slaski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 05:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use 94Ron E10 Shell Unleaded and find that it works a whole lot better than the 91 unleaded from the same retailer, I have trialed the overall outcome and the amount I use is slightly more however the vehicle is a whole lot more happier running the E10... 

I guess its fuels for the specific application - however I would hate to be owning a car that needs 95 or 98 Ron at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use 94Ron E10 Shell Unleaded and find that it works a whole lot better than the 91 unleaded from the same retailer, I have trialed the overall outcome and the amount I use is slightly more however the vehicle is a whole lot more happier running the E10&#8230; </p>
<p>I guess its fuels for the specific application &#8211; however I would hate to be owning a car that needs 95 or 98 Ron at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Martyn</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/15270/consumers-move-towards-e10-fuel/#comment-247795</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of communism in NSW, which has banned traditional unleaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of communism in NSW, which has banned traditional unleaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonny</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/15270/consumers-move-towards-e10-fuel/#comment-247790</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a few facts for you:

Ethanol as produced in this country (and many others) is NOT a by-product of the grain-growing process.

The production of ethanol causes food prices to rise - often for the poorest people in the poorest countries.

The production of ethanol is only viable because of massive government subsidies (here and especially overseas).

Ethanol can be produced from garbage - but not just yet, in commercially viable quantities at a commercially viable price. You can announce this (ethanol from garbage) as a good thing when it&#039;s true - it isn&#039;t true at the moment.

Your car may get better mileage on E10 - but I&#039;d want to see your methodology before I believe you (ie 500 km out a tank is NOT a rigorous scientific measure - not that I&#039;m saying that&#039;s what you&#039;ve said). Also, many other people report a different story.

As to using E10 - well, people are being denied a realistic choice. Soon regular standard petrol won&#039;t be available so to exercise choice will for most people involve using premium fuel at a much higher price. The government should allow people a real choice and sell E10 as well as regular 91 octane standard fuel.

The price difference between E10 and regular fuel is not sufficient to cover its inherent lower energy content - that is, you use more E10 to travel say 100 km than you would use regular fuel (1995 Commodores excepted, of course). In short, the price difference of 2 to 4 cents a litre barely covers the difference in consumption.

Oh, and when regular fuel is no longer available, will anyone be able to tell when the price differential disappears? That is, when all you can buy is E10 I reckon the price will increase and that woeful 2 to 4 cents a litre difference will disappear.

Lastly, petrol is not really a ripoff. Considering where the vast bulk of natural oil resides and how difficult it is to produce I reckon it&#039;s a miracle petrol costs so little. Go to Europe and see how much they pay for fuel - you&#039;ll see how good we have it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a few facts for you:</p>
<p>Ethanol as produced in this country (and many others) is NOT a by-product of the grain-growing process.</p>
<p>The production of ethanol causes food prices to rise &#8211; often for the poorest people in the poorest countries.</p>
<p>The production of ethanol is only viable because of massive government subsidies (here and especially overseas).</p>
<p>Ethanol can be produced from garbage &#8211; but not just yet, in commercially viable quantities at a commercially viable price. You can announce this (ethanol from garbage) as a good thing when it&#8217;s true &#8211; it isn&#8217;t true at the moment.</p>
<p>Your car may get better mileage on E10 &#8211; but I&#8217;d want to see your methodology before I believe you (ie 500 km out a tank is NOT a rigorous scientific measure &#8211; not that I&#8217;m saying that&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve said). Also, many other people report a different story.</p>
<p>As to using E10 &#8211; well, people are being denied a realistic choice. Soon regular standard petrol won&#8217;t be available so to exercise choice will for most people involve using premium fuel at a much higher price. The government should allow people a real choice and sell E10 as well as regular 91 octane standard fuel.</p>
<p>The price difference between E10 and regular fuel is not sufficient to cover its inherent lower energy content &#8211; that is, you use more E10 to travel say 100 km than you would use regular fuel (1995 Commodores excepted, of course). In short, the price difference of 2 to 4 cents a litre barely covers the difference in consumption.</p>
<p>Oh, and when regular fuel is no longer available, will anyone be able to tell when the price differential disappears? That is, when all you can buy is E10 I reckon the price will increase and that woeful 2 to 4 cents a litre difference will disappear.</p>
<p>Lastly, petrol is not really a ripoff. Considering where the vast bulk of natural oil resides and how difficult it is to produce I reckon it&#8217;s a miracle petrol costs so little. Go to Europe and see how much they pay for fuel &#8211; you&#8217;ll see how good we have it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 22:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please tell me (or provide a link) what we will need to do when regular unleaded petrol is no longer available to buy?  I believe that in July we will no longer be able to purchase it.  I find it hard enough now to find a servo that sells regular unleaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell me (or provide a link) what we will need to do when regular unleaded petrol is no longer available to buy?  I believe that in July we will no longer be able to purchase it.  I find it hard enough now to find a servo that sells regular unleaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i buy E10 (98 RON) at Freedom Fuels a big difference in my car&#039;s performance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i buy E10 (98 RON) at Freedom Fuels a big difference in my car&#8217;s performance</p>
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		<title>By: F1MotoGP</title>
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		<dc:creator>F1MotoGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now it is back again!?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it is back again!?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: F1MotoGP</title>
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		<dc:creator>F1MotoGP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 05:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the last 15 min both my comments were deleted!! Why???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last 15 min both my comments were deleted!! Why???</p>
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		<title>By: Bren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethanol is a &quot;by-product&quot; of the process of making grain and other products, they are not using the grain it self just the by-product of the process, so no food is getting wasted. In the near future they say they are going to use everyday garbage to produce Ethanol, from banana peels to dirty nappies...great stuff I say! If you ask me E10(94RON) is a great idea and it has a better octane level than regular unleaded(91RON). I have been using it in my 1995 Commodore for over 2 years now and I have found that I get slightly better mileage than reg unleaded. All these people having a hissy fit over it... don&#039;t use it than! I know ALL fuel is a blatant RIP-OFF but what could we do? eh. We should all not fuel our cars for a day and see what they do... just a thought ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethanol is a &#8220;by-product&#8221; of the process of making grain and other products, they are not using the grain it self just the by-product of the process, so no food is getting wasted. In the near future they say they are going to use everyday garbage to produce Ethanol, from banana peels to dirty nappies&#8230;great stuff I say! If you ask me E10(94RON) is a great idea and it has a better octane level than regular unleaded(91RON). I have been using it in my 1995 Commodore for over 2 years now and I have found that I get slightly better mileage than reg unleaded. All these people having a hissy fit over it&#8230; don&#8217;t use it than! I know ALL fuel is a blatant RIP-OFF but what could we do? eh. We should all not fuel our cars for a day and see what they do&#8230; just a thought <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rat</title>
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		<dc:creator>rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a VE UTE and have tried Caltex E10 (95 RON ?) plus normal ULP and Mobil,BP,Shell and Caltex PULP and none of them makr a difference I do the same trip 6 nights and mornings a week 135km a trip 30km is mountain roads and the rest is express with no traffic lt/100km is always 9.4-9.6 no matter which fuel and power wise I dont push it but when climbing up the hill I cant spot the differnce. In other cars I had some were cheaper to run on PULP when testing I use at least 4 tanks full.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a VE UTE and have tried Caltex E10 (95 RON ?) plus normal ULP and Mobil,BP,Shell and Caltex PULP and none of them makr a difference I do the same trip 6 nights and mornings a week 135km a trip 30km is mountain roads and the rest is express with no traffic lt/100km is always 9.4-9.6 no matter which fuel and power wise I dont push it but when climbing up the hill I cant spot the differnce. In other cars I had some were cheaper to run on PULP when testing I use at least 4 tanks full.</p>
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