2008 Lexus LS460 Review
18 Aug, 2008
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Steering feel and feedback is light but tangible and with a better turning circle than most similarly proportioned cars, parking is a delight, assuming you chose to do this for yourself of course. Lexus has self parking on the LS and whilst it is a novel idea and does indeed work in some instances, it can be a little futile and difficult to adjust outside certain parametres. Rain, and poor light can confuse the situation and should you need to reverse up a slight incline then forget it, for as soon as throttle input is detected, self park is canceled. Fortunately a very good reversing camera with on screen assist and audible parking sensors are included for good measure.
An ingenious brake hold feature and automated parking brake assist whilst at rest prove most handy and though it is a large car the braking capabilities are certainly very capable while a progressive pedal offers precise feel and tremendous feedback ensuring a smooth stop for you and your passengers.
Clever radar cruise control keeps a safe distance between you and the car in front (when activated) and with auto dipping mirrors, self folding wing mirrors, thoughtful interior lighting, self-cornering dusk-sensing xenon headlamps and auto wipers it almost feels as though the LS could drive itself.
You’re also met with the usual interior refinements including an electronic glass moonroof, refrigerated cooler box between the rear seats - just the ting to keep the Champers on ice, mirror and seat position memory for three people, rear seat audio, climate and DVD remote control, “Smart” entry/egress key fob with panic alarm, heated woodgrain and leather bound steering wheel, and integrated Bluetooth handsfree.
On the safety front dual front, dual knee, front/side, rear/side and full length curtain airbags are waiting in the wings while EBD, EBA, ABS, ESP (or VSC in Lexus speak) with Traction Control take a more active approach to preventing a mishap.
The only real downside to the big Lexus, besides the soft handling, is that the boot space is diminished due to the reclining rear seats and as such only offers 400-litres of space. It’s not a big deal, though I suspect most buyers would assume a car of such proportions to offer greater luggage capapcity, sadly this isn’t the case. It’ll swallow a set of golf clubs without an issue, but there’s not much room left for anything else and should four people decide to take a weekend away, then they’re well advised to travel light - or have James send the baggage ahead!
So, back to my opening question - is the LS on par with the tried and tested German saloon trio? Very nearly, yes. Is it a better choice for the substantial difference in price? Indubitably. If I could only remove brand status from this equation and sit a potential buyer in each of the cars for a day then ask to them to hand over the cheque, I’d have a tenner on the Lexus being first choice.
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Specifications:
- Engine: 4608cc DOHC V8 (32 valve)
- Power: 280kW @ 6400rpm
- Torque: 493Nm @ 4100rpm
- Transmission: Eight-Speed Automatic
- Brakes: Four-Wheel Discs with ABS & EBD
- Driven Wheels: Rear
- 0-100km/: 6.4 seconds (Claimed)
- Fuel Type: 95 RON Unleaded
- Fuel Tank Capacity: 84 litres
- Fuel Consumption: 11.1 litres/100km (Combined ADR)
- Airbags: Front, Side, Curtain & Knee
- Safety: ESP with Traction Control
- Service Interval: 6 month/10,000km
- Spare Wheel: 19-inch Alloy
- Turning Circle: 10.8 metres
- Warranty: 4 year/100,000km
- Weight: 1945kg (Tare)
- Wheels: Alloy 19 x 8.0”
Road Test the Rivals:
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- BMW 7 Series
- Jaguar XJ V8
- Mercedes Benz S Class
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August 18th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Nice write up Matt, nice to see a reviewer test a Limo as it should be tested. Wheels took it out on the dirt, cause thats what you do when you buy a 200k limo, take it out on the dirt… Well done.
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August 18th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Agree with you on the boot space, it is to small for a limo.
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August 18th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Car I always wanted but settled for a TDCi Mondeo at least my boot is bigger but one must question a car this size in our over crowded cities with our stupid speed limits where can you enjoy any car these days!
laurie
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August 18th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
As is with most Lexus’ I think generally everyone understands that they’re quite luxury orientated comparing to the German’s which generally do drive better. The LS is no different as you can see the many luxuries appointed to the rear seat passengers (and with the long wheelbase version you can also get the Ottoman reclining chair).
However if Lexus can keep up their current improvements between generations, I think the Euro’s are in trouble, because soon enough (given the current improvements between generations) the Lexus will be a better car overall and in Australia, also priced better which is a big factor when purchasing any car.
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August 18th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
I’d rather an Aurion.LOL.
It looks like a 60k car sorry.
Ford XR mags aren’t in character.
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August 18th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Lol, neatest engine bay ever!
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August 18th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
No thanks,looks wise Id go the S class thanks!This looks dated! Saw a new 740IL at the airport today,{pilot I guess}with 20inch wheels,and even I thought it looked hot,all in black!And I hate 7 series!
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August 18th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Looks like an Aurion with a different grille headlights and taillights [which is essentially just a Camry with different grille headlights and taillights]..
Plus a few extra features to make it appear equal to or better than the “Germans” but are nowhere near enough to justify the 100% increase in the price
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August 18th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
Regurgitated Camry babe………….owwwwwwww that will hurt!
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August 18th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Wonder if the Grill/bumper fits a Camrion.
Funny if the brackets and bolt holes lined up.
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August 18th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Hey that adds got 61,975 on it.
Gee I was close.LOL.
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August 18th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
You could argue all BMW’s look the same with their corporate identity twin nostrils and Banglesque lines.
I wouldn’t get one because the swtich gear still reminds me it’s a Toyota.
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August 18th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Something tells me its built on the camry/aurion body, I just noticed there is the designlayout similarities to my Zr6, except its been leathered up. AND I HATE TACKY PLATIC WOODGRAIN LOOK!!!
Knowing the very strong similarities I wouldnt buy this, even though its a great car, its just too much Toyota in this… Seriously Toyota is getting too easy in its product differentiation. I can only see this being a real corporate limo…
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August 18th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
I would be feeling quite smug too if I owned an Aurion Presara! Duel round tail pipes look better too!
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August 19th, 2008 at 2:24 am
with speed limits this car could be enjoyed more than every other car. picture the scenario, traffic jam, utter silence, supple comfy seats, and blissfully good quality music. it’s not too hard to understand what this car is about. as for the boot, all it needs to accommodate is a briefcase.
and those who say it doesn’t have presence, it’s a lot better in the flesh.
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August 19th, 2008 at 3:32 am
I hope these aurion comparisons are jokes? If you are seriously comparing this to anything less than the best of germany you need to get out more. This is a seriously good car - built superbly, quiet, confortable and backed up by dealer service second to none. Go experience one before making stupid comments.
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August 19th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Mac, you are on the money….. as for the plastic woodgrain comment… Mate, Lexus use a single seamless piece of timber so there are no joins or grain breaks in the wood, Toyota (yes I acknowledge the pedigree) own Yamaha, who in turn produce exceptional pianos, who just happen to also be the wood turners for all wood grain in Lexus. It may not be quite as dynamic as some of the German marques… but hey if you want to throw a Limo around a track… well I would argue you are a little confused by the purpose of the car you are driving….
IMHO a great right up and as the closing comment aludes too… I think if you could test drive this and the competition badge blindfolded… you would be dropping your hard earned Lexus’ way….
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August 19th, 2008 at 10:11 am
This is a genuine Limo, sorry Bavarian, no one does it better than lexus, not even your fav germans. Yup the germans will handle better, but do member this is a limo, lets not even go in the direction of build quality and electronics. Some of you people need to get out more.
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August 19th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Geez, If you dont get it Toyota is Lexus… yes the car is comparable to the germans, but if you don’t notice there are the hallmarks of the Aurion/Camry. I suggest you go and have a drive and good look at the interior of the AURION and see the strong similarities of both cars, (Especially the gear knob surroundings, excluding the material, DEFINATELY GIVE IT AWAY its identical)
The fact is that once you know this, the exclusivity of the LS somewhat diminishes, If I want a prestige car, I do not really want it resembling anything like the poorer cousin… but thats my opinion, as said no doubt its a good car, but personally I wouldnt take it.
and for the woodgrain comment, thats an ‘I’ meaning personal opionion, if you like it go buy it, personally I prefer the granite marble platic look like what you get in the mercs/hondas etc.
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August 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Silky you make it sound that Lexus was the original Limo,lets not forget that the S Class Merc has been the worlds best selling Limo for decades,from what I know about German vehicles there is one thing that Lexus still cant master and thats driver excitement.
quote drive.com.au “The LS is still a relatively clinical, disengaged drive. It feels like a beautifully made, serenely quiet, luxuriously comfortable … Toyota. This impression is reinforced by formal, unadventurous interior styling” Sounds like Toyota still doesn’t it.
Im not taking away that it maybe well built but it lacks looks inside and out and doesn’t have that status and wealth for those that own them and isn’t that what people that buy Limos want not the cheapest well built car you can buy! As I said Ill have a Merc still thanks!
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August 19th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Joober, as noted by Mat, the “tacky” woodgrain is in fact real wood, although on my own Soarer/Lexus the woodgrain trim is not “seamless” but rather a laminated structure with lesser wood beneath and aluminium sheet in the laminate for strength. Birdseye Maple sure looks better than “carbon” trim, especially in a cream/beige trim so rare these days.
The comparison between the LS460 and Aurion/Camry are ludicrous. I once owned a 20v Toyota Levin- the comparison between that and the Soarer made the Levin look like a dinky toy in terms of build quality (which was already higher than the rubbish Corollas sold here).
Anyway, the LS460 has drive to the correct wheels.
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August 19th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Mike, why is it ludicrous, you say Soarer, but Toyota had its Soarer and Lexus had its SC400, How about the Lexus RX vs a Toyota Harrier? you telling me theres no similar platforms there? and then comparing a sprinter to a soarer which are two different cars which I have NFI why? I am comparing the LS and Aurion because they share similarities but obviously the lexus has been supped up with luxury and a different look. Its kinda like comparing a VE omega to a statesmen but with a different badge… if i got that right.
I am not comparing whats a better car which of course the LS is no doubt, but following up with agreement that it bears the resemblance to the Aurion/camry.
BM - the whole idea of a Limo is to be comfort and features, performance is possibly the lowest denominator for choosing a limo
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August 19th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
BM a limo is designed for passenger comfort, Lexus does this better than anyone else whilst also providing pretty good performance. As you like quotes;
“If I could only remove brand status from this equation and sit a potential buyer in each of the cars for a day then ask to them to hand over the cheque, I’d have a tenner on the Lexus being first choice.”
The lexus looks fine, its just your own badge snobbery that prevents you from seeing this. Also, “it may be well built..” if the Germans could match Lexus in this area, perhaps we wouldn’t have to listen to the president of Mercedes making a public apology Merc’s lack of build quality. Again lets not touch on electronics.
And Joober, in your own words;
“I can only see this being a real corporate limo…” well no, really, you think. lol. Strange people, you know that backseat middle arm rest is an option on a BMW? And its held together by a piece of material.
Driving excitement and a Limo…jesus!
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August 19th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
“AND I HATE TACKY PLATIC WOODGRAIN LOOK!!!”
Yer mate, you prefer the “..personally I prefer the granite marble platic look like what you get in the mercs/hondas etc.” Like thats not tacky ;)
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August 19th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
just the typical Toyota hatred. But thats okay, the company doesnt really care what some people on some forums think.
comparing it to a camry and aurion is just ignorance… might as well NOT distinguish the difference between Audis, Hyundais and the like as they all have similarities.. wow 4 wheels!!!
dont even need to justify this vehicle, buck for buck, tech for tech… its up there, literally.
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August 19th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Well thats an opinion Silky,if I was to purchase a limo type vehicle I would still want all the other aspects of fine ans exciting motoring I could get along with the best and finest gimmicks you could be offered.
Seems if your only interested in comfort then this Lexus isn’t going to deliver.
This is something I found on Auto Spies comparing Lexus hybrid and German diesels………..I thought an interesting result.
quote “BMW 745d vs Mercedes S420 CDI vs Lexus LS600h
1st Place: Mercedes S420 CDI (522/650)
The benchmark in this class. High quality comfort and easy to use controls. Strong and fuel efficient. The perfect car for long distance traveling and business trips.
2nd Place: BMW 745d (503/650)
The BMW is the oldest in this group. Compared to the S-Class it is outperformed in most criteria. It is however fuel efficient, handles well and has good brakes.
3rd Place: Lexus LS600h (462/650)
The refinement and power of the hybrid are impressive. The comfort and braking qualities on the other hand are severely lacking. On rough roads, the suspension of the LS goes from comfortable to uncomfortable.
In overall driving, the diesel-powered Germans were more fuel efficient than the Lexus particularly in mixed driving which included city, country roads and highway.
Only in city driving did the Lexus win (9.8 L / 100 km vs 12.1 (BMW) and 11.6 (Mercedes)). Advantage? Hybrid.
On the Autobahn at a steady 180 km/h, the Lexus needed 24.5 L / 100 km, the BMW 16.6 L / 100 km and the Mercedes 15.4 L / 100 km.
Range wise, the Lexus needs to refuel after 661 km, BMW after 815 km and the Mercedes after 841 km. The range of the Lexus drops significantly if driven faster over 150 km/h on the Autobahn.
The Lexus LS600h also placed last because its small trunk volume space, which is a laughable 325 liters (that’s in the same class as the BMW 3-Series, C-Class etc.). The BMW 745d had a 500 liter trunk, the Mercedes even boasted a 560 liter trunk and the most payload capacity as well.
Performance wise, all cars were clocked from 0-100 km/h in 6.8 seconds. At midrange acceleration at higher speeds past 180 km/h, the Lexus pulls away from the diesel competition by as much as 4 seconds. However the engine response of the Lexus is a bit sluggish. The Mercedes had the best engine response followed by the BMW.
The Lexus was the quietest car until 150 km/h. Past this speed the Lexus engine became louder and was measured to be louder than the diesel BMW and Mercedes.
OTHER RATINGS:
Trunk Space
BMW 4/10
Lexus 0/10
Mercedes 5/10
Payload Capacity
BMW 3/5
Lexus 0/5
Mercedes 4/5
Engine Refinement
BMW 13/15
Lexus 14/15
Mercedes 14/15
Visual Quality Impression
BMW 14/15
Lexus 12/15
Mercedes 14/15
Interior Ergonomics and User friendliness
BMW 20/25
Lexus 17/25
Mercedes 24/25
Comfort
BMW 20/25
Lexus 17/25
Mercedes 24/25
Overall Quietness (100 km/h)
BMW 8/10
Lexus 10/10
Mercedes 8/10
Interior Quietness (100 km/h)
BMW 4/5
Lexus 5/5
Mercedes 5/5
Transmission
BMW 24/25
Lexus 25/25
Mercedes 25/25
Handling
BMW 13/15
Lexus 10/15
Mercedes 13/15
Steering Response
BMW 9/10
Lexus 7/10
Mercedes 9/10
Active Safety Features
BMW 11/20
Lexus 11/20
Mercedes 14/20
Brakes & Braking
BMW 9/10
Lexus 7/10
Mercedes 9/10
Weight
BMW 2/10
Lexus 0/10
Mercedes 2/10
Emissions
BMW 3/10
Lexus 3/10
Mercedes 3/10
Traction & Winter
BMW 7/10
Lexus 10/10
Mercedes 7/10
Resale Outlook
BMW 7/10
Lexus 1/10
Mercedes 8/10
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August 19th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
sorry the down fall of having long fingernails, clipped the send key,page loaded before I finished.
Isnt owning a Limo all about snobbery?
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August 19th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
BM, the Lexus hybrid is truly an unfortunate car, however to be fair, comparing this Hybrid to a diesel is only going to produce 1 result as clearly illustrated. Perhaps comparing it to a market ready German hybrid would have been more relevant. They do have one don’t they?
Also this is a LS460 Blog, bring your best Germans on, lets look at the dollars as well, THIS Lexus will own them. Its truly that simple.
Limo’s are used most frequently in a commercial basis, that is a service. No doubt there will be plenty of private owners as well. Is owning a Limo all about snobbery, hmm maybe, that would depend on the intrinsic motives of the buyer. One could argue that buying large german is an exercise in self flagellation given their reliability and the price of their options.
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August 19th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Lexii are a good used buy due to horrendous depreciation.
Then again the temptation is always there to just get the equivalent Toyota brand spanker for less.LOL.
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August 19th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Mark - Yer mate, you prefer the “..personally I prefer the granite marble platic look like what you get in the mercs/hondas etc.” Like thats not tacky
- Fair enough thats your opionion. buy my opinion of wood on a car doesnt do it for me. Marble Aint the sharpest either but to me its more attractive, On top of both I always prefer brushed aluminum and thats my opinion too. and yes it goes down to the colour scheme of the interior too.
james are you 5 years old?, if you don’t know, Lexus is Toyota… so at some stages they will eventually share parts/bodies with one another, you must be blind to see Lexus as its own separate entity. Mate do a favour and do a search for LEXUS SC400 and TOYOTA SOARER and see HOW different they really are nobody knows the difference..!! and check out the Toyota Harrier to the Lexus RX’s as well, so sharing bits from an Aurion to the LS or viceversa is not exactly sacrilage. but comparing a Hyundai to an Audi is plain dumb.
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August 19th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
What ever happened to the Toyota Crown?
Now that was a Limo! No a tank. The Amazing race had a stop in Japan and all the taxis looked like old Crowns with doilies on the headrests,LOL.
Now I’m 65 a limo I drive.It was a very good year………LOL
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August 19th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Ok Mark please educate me in how the Lexus owns the Limo market? Lets hope CA can get their hands on a Merc and BMW to do a comparison test hey?
Ive just read another review on it and they seem to be saying the same things .
I guess we all have different opinions and thats what I guess we’re all stating here !
Ill quote a few comments made on the Lexus 460 for you,
“The LS 460 is for people who hate cars.”
“the LS 460 has finally stopped cribbing its design cues from Mercedes– and started cribbing from the BMW 7 Series”
” I couldn’t distinguish an ES from an LS. In fact, the Japanese brand’s “L-finesse” design philosophy Lacks-finesse across the entire model range. There are no exterior character lines worth mentioning.”
“This deeply conservative (not to say bland) approach carries over into the interior, which seems carefully designed to avoid offense. While you can’t fault the LS 460’s ergonomics or the luster of its wood accents, the $61k-and-up car’s cabin comes off just a little bit, well, cheap. The buttons are made from plastic that Audi wouldn’t use for the A8’s trunk release. And Lexus can buff that leather as much as it wants; it still feels like it came out of a Camry. Of course, the LS 460 boats— I mean boasts every luxury car toy on earth, including intuitive parking assist (Danger Will Robinson!) and power everything you can imagine (and much you can’t or wouldn’t”
“LS’ 4.6-liter V8 is about as aurally exciting as switching on a pool heater– which is fair enough. The driving experience is a bit like swimming in warm water.”
” The LS 460’s electronic brakes were designed for women wearing high heels; the slightest touch of a stiletto brings the car to a complete stop. Steering feel isn’t. There’s only one way to know the slushbox is changing gears: watch the tacho needle bouncing gently up and down. Unless you depress the throttle at 45mph. Then there’s an unacceptable hesitation as the transmission rows through a few gear changes before finding the meaty part of the engine’s torque range. Remind me again why Lexus needs an eight speed transmission? Oh yes; Mercedes has a seven speed.”
“The LS 460’s handling reminded me of a 10-month old Golden Retriever puppy: affectionate but clumsy. Turn-in is irrelevant. You can’t feel the car settling into a corner and you only realize that you are exceeding the vehicle’s limits when the door’s angle of attack relative to the road exceeds 15 degrees, and the traction control wrests control (you mean I was driving?) away from the driver.”
Now does all of that sound like its all over the Germans still ?
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August 19th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
Hello BM, this is a limo, it carries passengers, its not been designed to be a drivers car. Its design is to carry passengers in great comfort, safety and quite. I have no doubts there are plenty of reviews which don’t think much of it, it depends on how you test it. THIS review is a good one, the writer has tested the vehicle as it should be, a limo.
This was the world car of the year not so long ago, never read any comments about the cheap leather and fittings then, perhaps the mag/site you are reading did some extreme testing, then lied a lot to boot.
The Germans are great engineers, in fact they over engineer constantly, take a leaf out of the Japs book, and get DESIGN down to simple art.
You can think what you want regarding the vehicle, I was just responding to some rather asinine comments regarding aurion, camry, switch gear, appearance et al.
The germans are to expensive, complicated and over rated from a bang for buck perspective. I drive german btw, and A jap car, both excellent, but the jap was cheaper and offers more bang for buck, less trouble as well TBH.
Anyway, as you like.
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August 19th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I know Mark typical woman wanting the last word hahaha,Im pleased to have a difference of opinion with a Lexus supporter without being abused,thanks!
Yeah as I said its all about opinion and yes I hear where your coming from with German engineering ,its one of the reasons they mentioned also in that story {not quoted} that the USA adapt to Lexus over the German rivals,simply they cant grasp the technology as fast as the Europeans do,although the book thats supplied with the Lexus to operate the gimmicks is quiet a substantial read I believe.
Not sure what sort of German car you drive Mark but Ive been doing so for over 20 years,from BMWs as expected to a Merc and a Porsche,got to say had no problems as such with any of them,but hey there a bad cars in every manufacturers past and present.
I understand the Jap stuff offers more bang for buck but its the Euro manufacturers that develop the majority of nanny controls and gimmicks I have to say that Lexus adapts into their cars,I guess thats a cheaper option than development and passing the cost on to the customer. We all know the Japs are great copiers.
Im not saying the Lexus isnt a good car by any means just that my opinion would always be German and Merc in this case plainly cause they have been the NO1 manufacturer in this class for decades,but hey as you say “As you like”
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August 19th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
How is it a Limo it’s not stretched.. all it is is a Hi Spec Toyota designed to take on Cars like The Mercedes C or S class Audi A6 and BMW 5 Series all of which are simply Passenger Sedans built on a longer wheel base.. and all fo which have enhanced performance models such as the M5. I mean its not that much bigger than a Statesman..
A limo Pull-ease!
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August 19th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Just had a look in the latest issue of Wheels and Motor mag… and at the back where it lists all the various makes and models of car in Australia as well as their specifications and prices etc
I was looking for “Lexus LS460 LIMOUSINE but unable to find it I did however find it in with the other $60k+ SEDANS such as the Audi A6 BMW 5 Series etc
Now why would it be listed with the other Luxury Sedans? Oh that’s right because it is a Sedan and NOT a Limo
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August 19th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
This is not a 5 series or A6 competitor.
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August 19th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Wheelnut - I think the use of limo is more of classificaton of the type of drive of this car is, its totally built on comfort and features with less emphasis on performance which if you go ride inside a REAL limo, you would have performance as the last thing in your mind and comfort and features as a no1 priority.
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August 19th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
BM, from the ratings you wrote about Mercedes-Benz, Lexus and BMW, it looks like though Mercedes-Benz just nudged BMW out for first place and Lexus last. So……………
1. Mercedes-Benz
2. BMW
3. AND Lexus LAST
What about Audi? Ay?
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August 19th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Hey Duck,my fine feathered friend,funny thing is BMW wont put themselves in the same sentence as Audi ? Weird ha!Then others wont include Lexus in the same group? Who knows why???????
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August 19th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Hey BM, no probs, and you may always have the last word :)
Wheelnut your point is take and is quite valid, however its designed for that role primarily, so I ran with that.
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August 19th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
mercedes benz can do no wrong in my eyes for what it’s worth.LOL.
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August 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
It’s just a bloody Toyota. Get over it!
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August 20th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Eveyone was complaining about the Honda Legend being overpriced!.Lexus has the better name however,not worth more than $120,000 over the Legend.
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August 20th, 2008 at 9:02 am
In many areas of engineering, Lexus has long had it over the Germans and continue that trend.
Lexus ranked 1st in the 2008 US JD Powers Vehicle Dependability Survey taking honours for the 14th consecative season while receiving the same honour in the 2008 UK JD Powers Dependability Study marking 8 consecative years in Europe.
In 20 short years, no resonable person can deny Lexus has become one of the most respected luxury brands as we know them today and either match or better the Germany marques in most avenues of engineering and for a much less price tag.
BMW and Mercedez Benz have commanded inflated prices for many years all while thier quality and dependability has slipped especially sense they started manufacturing in the US and South Africa.
Some off Bavarains copied statements are ridiculous and obvious written by a German fan who has increasingly become nervous of Lexus in the same manner BMW and Mercedes Benz have. If i recall correctly, i believe MB and BMW announced a co-develoment partnership because of the growing threat from Lexus, if that doesn’t suggest anything then what does.
As for peoples comments about the dash design is similar to the Camry and Aurion, what exactly is your point. All i can suggest is i hope you silly people are not making referance that the quality of the Camry is the same as the LS460 or LS600hl because that would be just plain stupid and for the record, BMW interior designs have never done it for me, they are complicated and messy.
Because it has a similar design doesn’t mean the function or quality is the same and in this case, not even close.
Lets not forget Lexus has long been noted for it’s impeccable build quality and craftsmanship with countless reports suggesting Lexus invest so much time, money and effort into thier vehicles that they are almost daring people to find a fault, if they can.
The fact that Lexus build quality is impeccable and probably even the best in the world suggests little of those who pass silly comments about switch gear or wood grain, to me if proves some people really do have no idea or appreciation of superb workmanship.
About the only area were Lexus marginally trials it’s German competitors is handling but even that has been reduced to near nothing in most of thier new models and considering BMW and MB have been in the business for many years, i take my hate off to Lexus for the ground they have covered in 20 short years, image what the future holds.
For those who wish to quote negative statements from other articles, that’s a game we all can play and i can quote dozens of negative reports on BMW and Mercedez Benz if i had the time and then follow up with dozens of positive reports on Lexus but i won’t waste the effort to prove something we already know.
And if it’s just a Toyota then it proves they do make the some best cars in the world without forgeting the LS460 won the 2007 World Car Of The Year
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August 20th, 2008 at 9:20 am
Bavarian, your quoted comment August 19th 3.31pm differs considerably (L-finesse design, v8 growl, braking) to the comments and opinions of this article.
This is a question i have to ask, which one do you believe ?
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August 21st, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I cannot fault the Lexus interior. It looks like a well integrated and cohesive design, unlike the Mercedes S-Class interior, which resembles that of a Toyota Tarago (with specific reference to the centre console). Also, instead of following the backwards trend of an I-Drive like system set by BMW, Lexus has stuck with traditional buttons and a touch screen.
The only German made flagship that can match the LS460 interior is that of the Audi A8. Like the Lexus, it sticks with a somewhat understated, yet elegant design philosophy. The S-Class and the 7 series interior designs have no finesse, with rude angles and a crap user interface ruling supreme.
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August 24th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Lexus LS & Aurion having simliarities?? In what sense?
One is RWD and ther FWD
One has REAL wood trim while the other has plastics with woody pattern. Yes the plastics are nasty in the Aurion but plss.. the ones in the LS are not the same/similar in any way.
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September 18th, 2008 at 1:01 am
Within 20 yrs Lexus overtaken Mercedez and BMW as the no 1 luxury marque. is it so hard to swallow that fact? :D
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September 18th, 2008 at 3:24 am
Where, Lexusboy? Here, or the world? And if that particular feat was achieved with a bunch of models that were marketed in the homeland and elsewhere as Toyotas Celsiors, Soarers, Land Cruisers, Harriers and Atezzas, it’s a shallow gloat.
The so-called sales figures will mean zip to Audi, BMW and Merc devotees.
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November 8th, 2008 at 4:35 am
Well.. I have seen a video in Youtube.. and they’re searching for a best chaueffuer car… They tested all high-end luxury cars such as S-Class, 7 series, Jag XJ, Lexus LS, etc…
and suprisingly the Lexus comes second while the Jag in the lead…
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November 19th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
hey guys
a lexus is a toyota it’s a horrible car. it’s built like a toyota. it sucks. it’s not a dang limo, or anything close to a mercedes. i’d rather have a 1980 mercedes e 200 thann a 08 lexus LS. my 08 mercedes s600 is so much nicer than any lexus. my fathers maybach 62s is better than any car a japanese car company can make. you can’t compare don’t even try. The only thing better is a Rolls Royce Phantom. Lexus sucks
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