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BMW – bring back the 6’s. Some have little interest in tiny 4’s.
They’re still offering the sDrive35 6.
Anyway history has shown that whenever BMW offers a 4 cylinder model, that model is always the best seller in the series.
…usually because history has shown that the 4cyl is the cheapest in the series and people are just buying it for the badge. Come on Phil, I thought a smart guy like yourself would have been able to work that one out…
Phil is an abject BMW fanboy, do not try and interrupt his delusions with facts and logic.
I said that whenever BMW offers a 4 cylinder, it’s the best seller.
Take a look around:
Biggest selling engine in Z3=1.9 4
Biggest selling engine in 3 series= 2.0 4 (320i or 318i)
Biggest selling engine in 5 series= 2.0 4 (520D)
Biggest selling engine in 1 series= 1.8 4 (118i – which by the way, isnt the cheapest 1 series.)
Except the best selling engine in this Z4 to now be a 4 cylinder too just like it was in the Z3.
What part of that is a delusion? I’m the one presenting facts and logics here.
Go back to worshipping your invisible freind. Jeebus.
I am a huge BMW fan myself Phil, but even I can see and admit that the reason why those models are the best sellers is because they are the cheapest or close enough to. It doesn’t mean they are the best of the range. All you have to do is look at the Commodore. It has been the best selling car for the last 15 years in Australia, but it is not the best car out there. That is why when I purchased my E36 coupe 11 years ago that it was a 325i and not a 318is. Drive the two back to back, which I did, and it is no contest. The 6cyl was by far the better drive in almost every way. However in the day $20-30k+ difference when new was a lot of money so LOGIC dictates that the 318is was the bigger seller in the coupe range because of that. I seriously thought you were much smarter than that Phil, you have disappointed me…
At what point did I say the 4 cylinder is better?
At what point did I say a best selling car is the best car?
What am I supposed to be smarter about?
Where is this delusion I am supposed to have?
The 4 cylinders in the examples I presented are/were the best seller. That is the only point I made.
You seem to be under the delusion that I said something else.
I wasn’t the one calling you delusional…
I was just giving the reason most likely WHY the 4cyl was the best selling. I am not and have not disagreed with you that the 4cyl is the best selling. I know you didn’t say the 4cyl was better, but the tone/style of one of your responses sounded like and practially implied that they were. I was just expanding on your statement.
Just so you can understand, I am NOT disagreeing with what you said as it is the truth and a fact, the 4cyls are the best selling.
“Practically implied” that 4s were better??
Go back and read what was said. The only tone supplied in the original statement was that some people do want 4 cylinders and if they don’t they still have the choice of the sdrive35i.
If all you were doing was “expanding” on my statement whats with the assertion that I “need to be smarter”?
4 or 6, I don’t really care either way, there are more important things that make a engine better than just the number of cylinders hence why there are plenty of bad 6 cylinder engines around.
But if you want to argue for the sake of arguing, I can take the bait.
-Eg, your E36 example; you don’t supposed the 325i is better due to the following factors; 20-30K higher price, newer design engine, increase engine capacity, %40 extra power over 318is?
With those atributes, the 325i would’ve still been a better drive than the 318is even if it had just been a larger 4 cylinder.
Do you think that the simple fact that it was a 6 made the 325i better?
I guess that gives the Holden Epica the best engine in its class.
-In the real example at hand, this BMW sDrive28i is offering better performance that the 6 it replaces along with a %20 reduction in fuel consumption, a $10,000 drop in price and supposedly a great exhaust note.
Presumably it’s lighter too which would give it better handling and even though Anthony says its down on power, in reality its probably up on overall power since the peak power is constant from 5000rpm-6250rpm.
Also if you’d read the “Wards best engines” article from last week, you’d know that this engine has already joined BMW’s 6 cylinder tradition of winning engine awards.
Just call me a traditionalist. I just prefer a BMW 4 over a BMW 6. They are just smoother and produce a much nicer exhaust note. I don’t doubt at all the the current BMW 4cyl turbo is better than many 6cyl engines (like the Epica you mentioned), but I still prefer a BMW 6 over their 4s. It is no different to anyone who prefers a V8 Commodore over the V6, even though the V6 is generally better balanced in it’s handling. The “aural” experience can be just as important as handling etc. But that is just me. You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect, just like I am entitled to mine! Hope you had a great Christmas.
I meant a prefer a BMW 6 over a BMW 4. Too much Christmas cheer! LOL
Doesn’t look that bad with the roof down………………………….
What is the problem with bi-directional paddles? I have them in my 135 and like it better than the paddles in my wife’s C300. Is it too hard to remember: push down, pull up? Geez..;.
Its a matter of preference Kale. Just because You like bi directional paddles, should the rest of the world like them too?
Agreed, but why criticize it constantly. Uni directional (left side down, right side up) is not, in my view superior. Can somebody explain why one would be better than the other.
It’s also a preference for pretty much every single racing car driver in the world with a “push/pull” sequential gearbox to have “pull back” upchanges and “push forward” down changes. In fact I have yet to see a race car with a “push forward” to upchange. To me it makes more sense to have a “pull back” to upchange as you are moving the “stick” in the direction of the force being applied to the car at that moment. I have driven cars with the “push forward” to change up and it feels counter intuitive to me. Sure you would get used to it, but it just doesn’t feel right to me. I will reserve judgement on the “sideways” moving ones until I get to try one. Don’t forget, this is only my own personal preference and there is nothing wrong with the other methods and they may suit someone else better.
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Hellooooooooooo!! This is Australia, not America. Do you copy?