Oh yes, i love it when people take the well used approach of if you haven’t driven it you can’t comment on it. But here we are on a Ford Fiesta blog, 30 comments in. And how many of us own or have driven one. I personally use to own a Fiesta XR2. But comments in my opinion are for all. I will confess to driving a Camry for a few weeks, but lets keep that one quite!

“Just because you have a bigger capacity engine, doesn’t mean you have higher fuel consumption, vehicle turning, weight, gearing all come into play also.”

Maybe, but i’d suggest a bigger factor is the driver and the way the car is driven. Yes take a V8, drive it like a priest and voila you’ll get better consumption. But then ask yourself why do i own a V8.

“If we are going to debate, you need to know what you’re talking about.”

And your also going to have to learn how to read. Because you conveniently miss the argument. Which was “would a 4cyl Camry use more fuel than an FG Falcon” as posted by TP.

But since you’ve taken the time to provide some information, (which is more than I can say for some people) lets have a look. The Car Advice fuel figures, which i would personally accept as good real world figures show a fuel efficienty gain of 7% over the Aurion. As I said before, this does surprise me. The FG carries more weight, RWD, and has larger displacement. I’m not familiar with Fords DIVCT so i’ll take your word for it that its the same as Toyotas Dual VVTi. So this stands out as an impressive achievement by Ford, and makes me wonder why they wouldn’t brag more about such an achievement, since Drive also found the FG to be a good fuel performer. Maybe its just a sore point given whats going to happen to the I6.

But the question still remains, if 9.8/100km would be better than a Camry. The Camry is only offered with the 5spd auto. I own a Rav 4 which uses the same crappy engine as the Camry and carries nearly 100kg more weight. But 9.8 would be at the top end of my fuel consumption. Admittedly this is a not a valid comparison. But if your a regular user of an FG maybe we could arrange our own comparison.

If we are going to debate, you need to know what you’re talking about.

drive these cars back to back for the truth.

The fact remains that both the accord and camry use large V6 engines, VE is only a 3.6l.
The new camry 4cyl struggles with the extra weight, like the new mondeo 4cyl does.

Just because you have a bigger capacity engine, doesn’t mean you have higher fuel consumption, vehicle turning, weight, gearing all come into play also.

this is from the one of the guys who did the comparison test.

Paul Maric Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
MH:

The article was delayed due to formatting issues with the final product. It finally went online at 2AM that following morning when they were resolved.

We do have fuel consumption figures and will post them in the near future – again it was due to formatting issues that they were omitted.

In the interim though, here they are:

Ford Falcon G6E: 9.8L/100km
Holden Commodore Calais V6: 10.9L/100km
Toyota Aurion Presara: 10.5L/100km
Honda Accord V6 Luxury: 10.6L/100km

The fuel consumption figures included highway, city and performance driving.

Is that enough?

Wheels did a comparison also which showed the Fg to be 0.1 of litre behind aurion, that would suggest that real world driving shows aurion and it appears accord also, to be just as thirsty as the heavier, bigger RWD vehicles
period.

Cool, show me a link to the article so we can put this one to bed. Remember the original argument was the 4 cyl Camry would be less efficient than the FG falcon.

But yes I would find it hard to believe that a 4ltr RWD weighing 150kgs more would beat the Aurion, especially considering the Borions new Dual VVTi Engine.

I’ve driven the new camry/aurion and can easily say the aurion is just as much as a guzzler as falcon and commodore, the new accord is also…yes real world figures.

It’s time to finally acknowledge that ford and holden aren’t the only ones selling ‘gar guzzlers’ as family cars.
It would appear the FG is one of the best LARGE RWD vehicles for fuel consumption, beating and matching FWD vehicles.

Why is it so hard to admit that???

Unfortunately unless you have some real world data to share with us then ADR is the closest thing you can compare. You can’t just put your finger in the air and claim better economy. The problem I have with ADR is not the fact the figures are supplied by the manufacturer, so there is no independant body to back them up.

In a true real world test I doubt an FG Falcon would beat a 4 cyl camry on fuel consumption. I’d be surprised if it could beat the Aurion.

Maybe car advice could give us some help here since they have just extensively tested some large cars (except the Camry).

Accord cylinder deactivation running on 3cyls was never meant to be as economical as a dedicated 3cyl engine.

With cyl deactivation u still have all the other bits going around and up and down i.e same internal friction losses as a v6 only the valves are open/closed and 3 of the six aren’t firing.