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		<title>By: Fenno</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/15109/toyota-to-increase-prius-production/#comment-86484</link>
		<dc:creator>Fenno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll keep it simple because the attention span is waning.

Dingo
Toyota ARE number one (both in profits and volume)
I have never disputed that. Although every counter arguement starts with this fact, or some irrelevant JD power survey result.

When supply outstrips demand (as it will when the Prius production is increased -the whole point of this article and it&#039;s associated comments), the price should go down. Mazda can do it why cant Toyota?

Toyota instead choose to increase the prices on all of their poplular models and blame the cost of steel. 

Are Toyota that concerned for the environment?
You would say yes because they have Hybrids. 
They cant be that concerned if they charge what they do for access to technology that everybody should have a right to. Especially when they can now meet the demands for such a product (the point of this article - remember)

In other words - You can all have our product now...but we&#039;re still going to make you pay top dollar for it.

In essence, Toyota dont care about their customers (they describe their vehicles as &#039;units&#039; - a word associated more with accounting than passion or service) and it reflects in their pricing.

Oh what a (sinking) feeling (in the gut).

By the way, Porsche are the most profitable car company on the planet if you calculate it per vehicle, so please be more specific when conjuring up irrelevant facts or making idle boasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll keep it simple because the attention span is waning.</p>
<p>Dingo<br />
Toyota ARE number one (both in profits and volume)<br />
I have never disputed that. Although every counter arguement starts with this fact, or some irrelevant JD power survey result.</p>
<p>When supply outstrips demand (as it will when the Prius production is increased -the whole point of this article and it&#8217;s associated comments), the price should go down. Mazda can do it why cant Toyota?</p>
<p>Toyota instead choose to increase the prices on all of their poplular models and blame the cost of steel. </p>
<p>Are Toyota that concerned for the environment?<br />
You would say yes because they have Hybrids.<br />
They cant be that concerned if they charge what they do for access to technology that everybody should have a right to. Especially when they can now meet the demands for such a product (the point of this article &#8211; remember)</p>
<p>In other words &#8211; You can all have our product now&#8230;but we&#8217;re still going to make you pay top dollar for it.</p>
<p>In essence, Toyota dont care about their customers (they describe their vehicles as &#8216;units&#8217; &#8211; a word associated more with accounting than passion or service) and it reflects in their pricing.</p>
<p>Oh what a (sinking) feeling (in the gut).</p>
<p>By the way, Porsche are the most profitable car company on the planet if you calculate it per vehicle, so please be more specific when conjuring up irrelevant facts or making idle boasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingo if you find staying awake whilst reading a bit of a challenge perhaps you should read something closer to your intellectual level or easier for you to understand, something like Little Golden Books or maybe Dr Zeuss..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo if you find staying awake whilst reading a bit of a challenge perhaps you should read something closer to your intellectual level or easier for you to understand, something like Little Golden Books or maybe Dr Zeuss..?</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/15109/toyota-to-increase-prius-production/#comment-86455</link>
		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingo/go prius/oh what a feeling/toyota supporter and every other name he posts under is an employee of Toyota and or one of its dealers/agencies,therefore his posts are tainted with commercial self interest and should be considered nothing more than very, very low quality advertising, and not his objective opinion and car advice.

Interestingly, due to his abrasive and abusive nature, even Toyota Motor Corporation Australia wish he would shut his stupid mouth as they concede his rants are only damaging the brand.

His post above (31/7 at 5:13pm) illustrates this perfectly. After highlighting Toyota&#039;s record profits in this post every Toyota customer should now be rightfully asking themselves, &quot;have I been overcharged?&quot;, and the answer is most certainly yes. 

Every &quot;new&quot; Corolla owner should go to straight back to the dealer they purchased it from and demand to know why it doesn&#039;t have life saving ESP fitted. Hyundai&#039;s have it.

With the record profits Toyota are making they certainly could prvide ESP, so the answer can only be Toyota do not regard it&#039;s customer safety as a priority, instead prefering to focus on maximum profits.

As Fenno so rightly points out, &quot;a company that really doesn&#039;t give two hoots about you&quot;

Unfortunately, as you look across the range of Toyota vehicles you find evidence of this overcharging and under delivering everywhere.

In these difficult and uncertain economic times with the cost of living rising most of us battle and work hard to make ends meet and keep the wolf from the door - for ourselves and our families, not for Toyota&#039;s record profits. 

Well done Dingo on alienating yourself, and damaging Toyota&#039;s reputation, even further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo/go prius/oh what a feeling/toyota supporter and every other name he posts under is an employee of Toyota and or one of its dealers/agencies,therefore his posts are tainted with commercial self interest and should be considered nothing more than very, very low quality advertising, and not his objective opinion and car advice.</p>
<p>Interestingly, due to his abrasive and abusive nature, even Toyota Motor Corporation Australia wish he would shut his stupid mouth as they concede his rants are only damaging the brand.</p>
<p>His post above (31/7 at 5:13pm) illustrates this perfectly. After highlighting Toyota&#8217;s record profits in this post every Toyota customer should now be rightfully asking themselves, &#8220;have I been overcharged?&#8221;, and the answer is most certainly yes. </p>
<p>Every &#8220;new&#8221; Corolla owner should go to straight back to the dealer they purchased it from and demand to know why it doesn&#8217;t have life saving ESP fitted. Hyundai&#8217;s have it.</p>
<p>With the record profits Toyota are making they certainly could prvide ESP, so the answer can only be Toyota do not regard it&#8217;s customer safety as a priority, instead prefering to focus on maximum profits.</p>
<p>As Fenno so rightly points out, &#8220;a company that really doesn&#8217;t give two hoots about you&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, as you look across the range of Toyota vehicles you find evidence of this overcharging and under delivering everywhere.</p>
<p>In these difficult and uncertain economic times with the cost of living rising most of us battle and work hard to make ends meet and keep the wolf from the door &#8211; for ourselves and our families, not for Toyota&#8217;s record profits. </p>
<p>Well done Dingo on alienating yourself, and damaging Toyota&#8217;s reputation, even further.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Prius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go Prius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fenno - sorry mate but i&#039;ll reply &#039;if&#039; or &#039;when&#039; i make it to the end of your dribble. I keep fall&#039;n to sleep each time i start reading it ... i really do !!  

Thomas79 - i have some of the financial figures for the past couple of years of the automotive manufactuers in Australia.

* 2007 / 2008 FISCAL year

1. Toyota ... $242 million profit
2. Holden ... $6 million dollar loss
3. Ford ... $84 million dollar loss

* 2006/2007 FISCAL year

1. Toyota ... $184 million dollar profit
2. Holden ... $146 million dollar loss
3. Ford ... $ ?? 

2005/2006 FISCAL year

1. Toyota ... $55 million profit
2. Holden ... $145 million loss
3. Ford ... $ ?? 

So, in the past 3 years - Toyota Oz has reported a $481 million profit compared to Holdens $297 million loss ... oooch !!

That represents a massive $778 million dollar diference in just 3 short years alone.   

And whats funny about all this, the usual monkeys question Toyota&#039;s stability in Australia ... haa, what a joke !!

Seriusoly dude, the clowns on this site are just killing me with thier stupidity

Cheers

ps. to all those idiots that have stated in the past that Toyota Australia sells the most cars but not make the most profit ... i dare you monkeys say that now !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fenno &#8211; sorry mate but i&#8217;ll reply &#8216;if&#8217; or &#8216;when&#8217; i make it to the end of your dribble. I keep fall&#8217;n to sleep each time i start reading it &#8230; i really do !!  </p>
<p>Thomas79 &#8211; i have some of the financial figures for the past couple of years of the automotive manufactuers in Australia.</p>
<p>* 2007 / 2008 FISCAL year</p>
<p>1. Toyota &#8230; $242 million profit<br />
2. Holden &#8230; $6 million dollar loss<br />
3. Ford &#8230; $84 million dollar loss</p>
<p>* 2006/2007 FISCAL year</p>
<p>1. Toyota &#8230; $184 million dollar profit<br />
2. Holden &#8230; $146 million dollar loss<br />
3. Ford &#8230; $ ?? </p>
<p>2005/2006 FISCAL year</p>
<p>1. Toyota &#8230; $55 million profit<br />
2. Holden &#8230; $145 million loss<br />
3. Ford &#8230; $ ?? </p>
<p>So, in the past 3 years &#8211; Toyota Oz has reported a $481 million profit compared to Holdens $297 million loss &#8230; oooch !!</p>
<p>That represents a massive $778 million dollar diference in just 3 short years alone.   </p>
<p>And whats funny about all this, the usual monkeys question Toyota&#8217;s stability in Australia &#8230; haa, what a joke !!</p>
<p>Seriusoly dude, the clowns on this site are just killing me with thier stupidity</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>ps. to all those idiots that have stated in the past that Toyota Australia sells the most cars but not make the most profit &#8230; i dare you monkeys say that now !!</p>
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		<title>By: Fenno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fenno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dingo quotes - 

&quot;While Toyota (and to a lesser extent, Honda) lead the charge in the hybrid race, incase you haven’t noticed but they also have huge commitments in maintaining thier diverse fleet, ongoing engineering and development of Lexus (which co-incidentally is amoung the most technologically advanced automotive brand in the world today), Scion, Hino and ofcourse motorsport including F1 and thier new commitments in NASCAR just to name a few.&quot;

Why is it, every time you guys are stumped with a truly compelling case against your cause you resort to F1 and Nascar? It is irrelevant to what you can buy from the showroom (same, same with the V8 supercars) When has Toyota in this last decade won a road 
race with a car you can buy from a local dealer? 

On topic though...
The Prius was revolutionary in its case of bringing to the world the need to look for alternate ways to power our vehicles (with the oil supposedly running out). I dont give a sh1t about batteries or any of the crap that people say against the Prius (ie my diesel this does .1 of a litre less etc etc). The prius has a place on the market and performs it&#039;s intended function as best it can.

What I cant get around is that Toyota (largest and most profitable) are still charging over 40k for it after 9 years of the technology being available. That is ridiculous! How is it then they can get a grant off OUR government to build them (hybrid camry&#039;s - what are they going to cost????!!!) here when they post a profit equal to that of our GNP? When other manufacturers bring out Hybrids i can guarantee that they wont be ripping people off to the extent that Toyota are (which might be a good thing when they have 200,000 extra Prius&#039; gathering rust on the Docks around the world - we&#039;ll see maybe sane pricing then I hope)

The Prius is now a part of Automotive history and represents the first vehicle in a step towards the future. 
But it doesn&#039;t represent good value if it is going to take 40,000 years to recover the purchase price on the fuel saved alone.

This is why you will always have the dissenters out there to make you question why you are so passionate about a company that really doesnt give two hoots about you!

BTW...Millatime...Still chortling at some of your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dingo quotes &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;While Toyota (and to a lesser extent, Honda) lead the charge in the hybrid race, incase you haven’t noticed but they also have huge commitments in maintaining thier diverse fleet, ongoing engineering and development of Lexus (which co-incidentally is amoung the most technologically advanced automotive brand in the world today), Scion, Hino and ofcourse motorsport including F1 and thier new commitments in NASCAR just to name a few.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it, every time you guys are stumped with a truly compelling case against your cause you resort to F1 and Nascar? It is irrelevant to what you can buy from the showroom (same, same with the V8 supercars) When has Toyota in this last decade won a road<br />
race with a car you can buy from a local dealer? </p>
<p>On topic though&#8230;<br />
The Prius was revolutionary in its case of bringing to the world the need to look for alternate ways to power our vehicles (with the oil supposedly running out). I dont give a sh1t about batteries or any of the crap that people say against the Prius (ie my diesel this does .1 of a litre less etc etc). The prius has a place on the market and performs it&#8217;s intended function as best it can.</p>
<p>What I cant get around is that Toyota (largest and most profitable) are still charging over 40k for it after 9 years of the technology being available. That is ridiculous! How is it then they can get a grant off OUR government to build them (hybrid camry&#8217;s &#8211; what are they going to cost????!!!) here when they post a profit equal to that of our GNP? When other manufacturers bring out Hybrids i can guarantee that they wont be ripping people off to the extent that Toyota are (which might be a good thing when they have 200,000 extra Prius&#8217; gathering rust on the Docks around the world &#8211; we&#8217;ll see maybe sane pricing then I hope)</p>
<p>The Prius is now a part of Automotive history and represents the first vehicle in a step towards the future.<br />
But it doesn&#8217;t represent good value if it is going to take 40,000 years to recover the purchase price on the fuel saved alone.</p>
<p>This is why you will always have the dissenters out there to make you question why you are so passionate about a company that really doesnt give two hoots about you!</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;Millatime&#8230;Still chortling at some of your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AC COBRA, Ford Makes bland, boring, cheap, mass produced appliances that really just don\&#039;t excel at anything!! Thats why nobody buys them!! Remember the 9 Billion loss in the last 3 months?!!
While Toyota is ready to adopt new technology for the changing times, and the demands of the Market!! No Wonder Toyota ignites such a passion in people, and is the highest respected automobile manufacturer on the planet!! And keeps breaking it\&#039;s own profit records!! 

You guys really need to stop living in fantasy land, and start living in the 21st Century!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC COBRA, Ford Makes bland, boring, cheap, mass produced appliances that really just don\&#8217;t excel at anything!! Thats why nobody buys them!! Remember the 9 Billion loss in the last 3 months?!!<br />
While Toyota is ready to adopt new technology for the changing times, and the demands of the Market!! No Wonder Toyota ignites such a passion in people, and is the highest respected automobile manufacturer on the planet!! And keeps breaking it\&#8217;s own profit records!! </p>
<p>You guys really need to stop living in fantasy land, and start living in the 21st Century!!</p>
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		<title>By: AC COBRA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC COBRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOUR KIDDING YOURSELF, GO PIRUS = POOF TALKER Toyota and Lexus hybrids have proven themselves to be the WORST in the world !!

TOYOTA &amp; LEXUS = BLAND, BORING, GRANDPA, WHITEGOOD DRIVING. ME DON&#039;T NEED A TOYOTA, I ALREADY HAVE A FRIDGE PARKED IN MY KITCHEN AND IT RUN&#039;S ON ELECTRICITY JUST FINE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOUR KIDDING YOURSELF, GO PIRUS = POOF TALKER Toyota and Lexus hybrids have proven themselves to be the WORST in the world !!</p>
<p>TOYOTA &amp; LEXUS = BLAND, BORING, GRANDPA, WHITEGOOD DRIVING. ME DON&#8217;T NEED A TOYOTA, I ALREADY HAVE A FRIDGE PARKED IN MY KITCHEN AND IT RUN&#8217;S ON ELECTRICITY JUST FINE.</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what an incontinence feeling/go prius, oops I mean Dingo


Are you employed or paid either directly or indirectly by Toyota or one of its agencies? 


Toyota could do so much better, what a shame they don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what an incontinence feeling/go prius, oops I mean Dingo</p>
<p>Are you employed or paid either directly or indirectly by Toyota or one of its agencies? </p>
<p>Toyota could do so much better, what a shame they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOYOTA PRIUS IS SIMPLY NOWHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH FROM THE WORLDS BIGGEST CAR MAKER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOYOTA PRIUS IS SIMPLY NOWHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH FROM THE WORLDS BIGGEST CAR MAKER.</p>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh what an incontinence feeling, oops Dingo


I knew I should&#039;ve used a crayon so you&#039;d understand..


Are you employed or paid either directly or indirectly by Toyota or one of its agencies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh what an incontinence feeling, oops Dingo</p>
<p>I knew I should&#8217;ve used a crayon so you&#8217;d understand..</p>
<p>Are you employed or paid either directly or indirectly by Toyota or one of its agencies?</p>
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