Just Think Green improves LPG performance
July 24, 2008 by George Skentzos
A technology which promises to increase the fuel economy and performance of LPG vehicles when compared with the standard petrol models will now be available in Australia for the first time.
This next generation LPG system offers significant advances over the current VSI (Vapour Sequential Injection) industry standard.
In current arrangements, LPG Autogas is a lighter fuel which yields less energy per litre than petrol therefore more is needed per kilometre resulting in higher consumption, however at over a dollar less.
“However, the lower pump price of Autogas – currently about a dollar a litre below standard unleaded petrol – much more than compensates. Its light, low carbon structure gives it the added benefit of lower greenhouse gas emissions.”
The European-developed system dubbed JTG (Just Think Green) consistently achieves consumption of around 10 percent less litres per kilometre than vapour injection LPG systems and around 10 to 15 percent more litres per kilometre than petrol systems.
Initial testing of the product by Australian LPG Warehouse yielded a power increase of 18kW in an Falcon XR6 Turbo, with the company already developing kits for popular models, including the BA Ford Falcon and VE and VZ Holden Commodore.
It is also developing this system for small engines such as the four-cylinder Toyota Camry and Corolla.
“If a consumer can drive their vehicle with improved performance, similar fuel consumption, no maintenance or longevity penalty and save plenty of money, it’s a revolutionary result for them and for the greater LPG industry.”
LPG Australia’s industry development manager Phil Westlake said LPG liquid injection technology increased motorists’ fuel savings over petrol – and that having Autogas’ litres per 100km figures closer to those of petrol would simplify real-world direct comparisons between the two fuels.
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With the current high price of petrol this article is very welcomed news. All we need is for more cars to be LPG powered which should not only help the hip pocket, but the environment as well.
Cheers !
Wow….this will make PETROL hybrids look silly/sillier!!! Bring it on ASAP!
Brilliant. Maybe manufacturers will finally be seriously interested LPG with this technology.
What about a series LPG hybrid? Best of everything. Petrol hybrids do some good though, they get people thinking that electric power is viable for cars.
If only they could do something about the tank that is needed. Good to see innovation in the use of LPG though.
about time!!!!!!
some positive thinking towards LPG, good to finally see.
CA, is there a little more info available on this system?
do they have a website with further links to distributers??
whilst all the hybrid ventures are partnering up with leading battery manufacturers,
why the hell doesnt ford partner up with this company to jointly push each others brands further??
put the coffee down ford!!!!!
well holden has stated that they are having a “serious look” at alternative fuels for australia including LPG, CNG and E85. There is no network in australia as yet for CNG, similar story for E85 so surely a more advanced LPG system for commodores could be the answer? And given that it actually IMPROVES performance in things like XR6T’s and therefore presumably V8’s, perhaps this is an opportunity for holden… Imagine holden add’s running along the lines of “the V8 with even more grunt then before, but cheaper to run then a petrol camry!” Could be a way of getting the enviro-nazi’s to shut up about V8’s for a while…
That sounds great. Im a big advocate for LPG. Ive had 4 Fords with LPG, both aftermarket and factory Tickford. Always loved the cost savings, now an increase in performance is even better. That being said, I did put an XF on straight gas once and it was like a new car. 112rwkw, stock.
I was waiting for the LPG version of the Firepower pill.
richo,
i have read of LPG SS commodores achieving higher power figures than petrol even whilst using the current vapour injection tech. and that was dual fuel too.
there is so much potential with what manufacturers can explore with an LPG vehicle range.
holden is starting to have a serious look???
well about time i say.
ford has been having a “half” serious look for years, but even that can go further.
holden has only offered an aftermarket fitment to keep fleets happy, otherwise they wouldnt have an option on it at all.
Im also surprised that no one has been marketing aftermarket kits that are a full conversion and carry the manufacturers backing.
performance shops can operate in a similar fashion
Tim Johnston……..was your comment based on inside information? OR are you just being negative??????
Once the technology is developed & the general population accept LPG, it will be the next big thing.
Diesel cars don’t seem to be flavour of the month anymore due to $1.80/litre + prices.
…and not one comment from the Frugal one???
LPG will also be the flavour of the month for emergency services as well… when they explode in car fires.
TP…..you are just plain ignorant!!! You hate diesel and now LPG is no good either, i think the petrol fumes have fried your brain!!!
TPis only adopting this stance because all toyotas are not LPG compatible.LOL.
A Toyota Mechanic friend of mine asked the Dealer Principle about LPG FOR TOYOTAS and his reply was that it is only for BBQs.LOL.
TP,
as someone once said,
“wipe away those bitter tears”
isnt it funny he doesnt like diesel and LPG, and toyota doesnt offer either???
I assume you have many case studies where LPG vehicles have “exploded” do you?
Carl,
i dont think its the petrol fumes frying the brain, but i have heard that electro fields such as what the Prius carries can cause deadly cancers and diseases……..
the only battle LPG faces is public acceptance
you cant tell me if they bothered setting up an SS commodore or XR6T with 5% more power that people wouldnt start accepting it.
the acceptance issue will be lead by ford or holden. once either of them can display a “Hero” car with everything and more to boot, then the public will take it on board
No, LPG is better then Diesel no doubt… but its moving from one resource which is becoming scarce to another resource that will soon become scarce. And mind you it only takes common sense to realise that if all the worlds automotive demand shifted to LPG the prices would rise and with ordinary fuel consumption figures that cars with this tech get (although it could improve with more investment) its not a long term option. When we can already produce vehicles that dont reqire this kind of fuel today, while the hell plan for a car that uses such resources for tomoroz.
TP,
supply of LPG is not a problem.
dont worry, there is tonnes there. hell they are even burning it off because we cant use enough of it. further to that, we also sell it off to china for a pittiful couple of cents per litre.
its not as likely that LPG will suffer the immediate price hikes as that of petrol.
LPG prices have no reason to be formulated off of the barrel price of oil in the middle east.
the government has more power to watch LPG prices than they do with oil prices.
LPG will always be cheaper and thats the part you LPG sceptics dont seem to get.
remember the latest report saying in 5yrs petrol will be $8 per litre??
yeah, sure LPG isnt a permanant solution as it still causes pollution, but it is easily the best “NOW” solution until such time a zero emission option comes in (and plugins are not that)
and on plugins, do you not think that once more people have than that we wont be paying a lot more for power? and that wont only affect the cost of running your toyota, but the cost to run your fridge aswell (pardon the pun)
oh,
and where is the studies relating to LPG explosions??
Andrew M………LOL, TP has got some real issues but after so many years of safe LPG usage in cars to continue scaremongering like that is embarrassing!!!
Anti spam word Hyundai…..Toyota watch your back coz those Thailand Toyota’s aren’t cutting it anymore!!!
great to see gas technology surging ahead; hybrids will be dirty guzzlers in comparison. As for the tanks, a magazine article a year or so ago showed a company developing a flat tank (with inside reinforcing) that could replace the petrol tank – this and JTG would be unbeatable! One question – would JTG start the engine from cold, doing away with a duel system?
Now, if garbage could easily be converted to efficient fuel/bio-diesel, that might be the best option of all. That can kill 2 birds with one stone: You take out the trash, and refuel your car at the same time. I read that Aussie researchers are looking into that, hopefully they develop a successful result soon.
would be great if there was a place i could get a JTG gas system i looked and no one has heard of it some ones pulling your legs..
if anyone does find one LPG conversion place which does JTG liquid injection it let me know just post a mesage
Karlo, if you go to the website of Australian LPG Warehouse, it lists the JTG system fitting stations.
Karlo, I’ve just had my VE Calais installed with the JTG liquid injection and it is unreal. Auto Gas Injection in Frankston completed mine and i’m very happy… Very good fuel economy as well….