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Toyotas will be fun to drive again, says boss

By Jez Spinks |

Toyota has used the 2011 Tokyo motor show and the debut of its 2012 Toyota 86 sports car to promise that its cars will become more enjoyable to drive.

The company’s boss, Akio Toyoda, also said in his speech that Toyota, the world’s leading maker of hybrid vehicles, wanted to preserve the future of conventional internal combustion engines.

Toyota is well renowned for its reliability and build quality, but the brand has also struggled to attract keener drivers with its products.

Toyoda, a known driving enthusiast himself, says he wants to change the perception that its cars aren’t exciting to drive – as well as re-engaging the younger generation that have become more preoccupied with social technology such as smartphones rather than cars.

“Toyota adopted the catchphrase ‘Fun to drive’ in the mid-1980s,” says Toyoda. “Today it is said that young people have very little interest in cars as there are much more interesting things, and, as an automobile maker, I find this quite frustrating.

“It is for this reason that we are committed to making cars that will evoke this feeling of ‘Fun to drive’ again. This is Toyota’s declaration.”

Even a sports car has been a notable omission from Toyota’s line-up since it discontinued the Celica coupe and MR2 Spyder a few years ago.

The new Toyota 86, a virtually identical twin to the equally new Subaru BRZ, fills one much-needed gap in its line-up.

With rear-wheel drive, a relatively low 1220kg kerb weight and a chassis designed for balanced handling, the 86 promises to provide the kind of thrills not found in any current Toyota.

Toyota says it wants all of its future models to deliver a more engaging drive, however.

“I hope that motor vehicles will continue to provide dreams and inspiration to people for all eras,” said Toyoda. “I believe that if it is not fun, it is not a car.

“To put it another way, cars must have an emotional presence that inspires drivers to enjoy their freedom. I truly believe that no matter how advanced cars become, it is important to retain this feeling.”

Toyota has led the way in hybrid car development, including the world’s best-selling petrol-electric car, the Prius, but the company says the future of motoring will not necessarily be a choice of only hybrids or battery electric cars.

“Personally, I love the smell of gasoline and the sound of an engine,” says Toyoda, “so I hope that this type of vehicle never disappears.

“I do not believe that the debate concerning future motor vehicles will be a choice between electric vehicles or plug-in hybrid vehicles.

“What is necessary is the decision by consumers, but it is unlikely that there will be only one choice. I believe that various types vehicles will be uses for different applications through maximising the advantages of their individual strengths.”


 
  • John-piere

    “I believe that if it is not fun, it is not a car”

    So what the hell has Toyota been selling for the last 2 decades!?!?

    • UMWHAT

      it’s something they’d like to forget about

      • Damian

        “So what the hell has Toyota been selling for the last 2 decades!?!?”

        A success story that has made it the most profitable car manufacturer in the world.

        Whitegoods on wheels obviously has its merits.

        • John-piere

          The most recent figures available regarding profitability are from 2010.
          They have VWAG 1st, Ford 2nd and Toyota 3rd.

          ooops……..

          • Damian

            “The most recent figures available regarding profitability are from 2010.
            They have VWAG 1st, Ford 2nd and Toyota 3rd.”

            Was Toyota not the most profitable car manufacturer in the world? Or did you just conveniently forget that?

    • CRS200

      People movers?

    • JooberFPVGT

      As everyone has been saying, whitegoods on wheels

      • bert

        So what do you drive? I BET A 1985 CAMIRA BEIGE IN COLOUR!!!!!!!!!!!

        • JooberFPVGT

          Nice one bert, your supreme sense of judgement is one to be reckoned with even though clearly what I drive is on my username.

          Hows Ernie?

          • JEKYL & HYDE

            rofl…classic

  • Bob

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but isnt the white ’86′ in the picture actually the subaru variant?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1715760895 Charles Dean

      haha.. good spotting

  • JooberFPVGT

    By the time toyota brings out a lineup of enjoyable cars we wont be able to enjoy it on Australian roads per say with increased road law enforcement smarter speed cameras etc

  • whatthe..

    Again?

  • No 1

    I tell you what is less “fun” than driving a Toyota.

    Not driving my 2 year old VW Golf cause it destroyed its gearbox

    No “fun” driving your car and being anxious it might break down again

    • UMWHAT

      Yeah, and getting the accelerator stuck and running over pregnant woman in pedestrian crossings is thrilling good fun

      • No 1

        Im just talking facts here about my car, you are just talking out your ring.

        Next car will be a Toyota, go forever and give you no trouble

      • gazza

        YOU SHOULD BE BANNED OFF CARADVICE FOREVER WITH THAT STATEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • No 1

          I drive cars, not just read about them you sheep.
          Dont just go on on what you read, only fools do that

          • Rick

            Sorry to say , but if you drove cars on a test drive and take the badge out of your equation you won’t go home in a Toyota . As for reliability , I’ve had to different types of toyotas in the last 5yrs and all 8 vehicles have given me and my business nothing but trouble .

          • No 1

            Well why did you keep buying them, you made that all up

          • Rick

            No I bought them because it was a company decision. 1 vehicle was mine, the other 7 were vehicles for my business. the 200 series cruisers had every thing from using oil to failed transmissions and turbo chargers the one vehicle that was mine was a TRD aurion which had various electrical problems and interior rattles and squeaks hence the 8 vehicles in 5 yrs . Toyota are relying on their name . End of story

          • No 1

            So before it was your business, if it was your business you could buy whatever you want

            Like I said made up

          • Rick

            Believe what you like , at the time we had just bought the business , and bought them based on their reputation . I have now learnt that’s what they rely on . Until Toyota improve their products I’ll stick with the brands we have know .

          • Rick

            Now not “know”

          • No 1

            Well I think I know your not telling the truth as I run a made up business as well and have a fleet of 600 Toyotas.
            I would prefer a different brand but the Director (a sock with eyes sewn on it) just loves Toyotas.

      • Lukaas

        yeah… talking crap there I see… and disturbing image too.

        I believe you just made that up.

        The Accelerator pedal issue… well did you even read the final judgement by the American courts?

  • Al Juraj

    The Corolla is the only car in its class without a sports version. Well, their so-called Sport edition is only cosmetic; everything else, from the lousy autobox to cheap suspension, is the same. The next one ought to have more power, gears and Mazda3-like involvement.

  • Simon

    I wonder if the boss got his job because his surname was the closest match to ‘Toyota’ out of all the applicants?

    • The other Brad

      Akio Toyoda is the descendent of Sakichi Toyoda who established Toyoda Automatic Loom Works in 1926. This later became Toyota in 1937.

      Wikipedia is interesting :)

      • Jacob

        Funnily enough they named the company “Toyota” instead of “Toyoda” because they thought Toyota is easier to say!

        We Aussies find it easier to say “Toyoda”.

    • Lukaas

      And there you have it.
      An example why people hate on Toyota here…
      They dont even know MUCH about anything to begin with.

      • AndyGF

        Give the guy a break… Knowing “anything” about toyota(yoda) wasn’t a very interesting story to being with.

        Every time he typed Toyoda in on Google is said “Did You Mean: Star Wars Action Figures?”

        • AndyGF

          …to begin with.

    • gazza

      Do you know anything about TOYOTA?

  • jdmfreak

    simon obviously you have no idea what you are talking about, try googling ‘akio toyoda’

    toyotas were fun to drive back in the 80′s and early 90′s – think MR2, celica, supra – really looking forward to toyota’s future sportscar offerings.

    ganbare toyoda-san!

  • 440 R/T Charger

    Good the Boss know what company goes wrong….Sad most of the product planning team within dont have a clue about what he say…

  • hh

    Now, lets just see what the price is?

  • Toyota Guru

    Have a look at toyota.jp for the wacky “Fun to Drive” section utilising Doraemon. Gotta love the Japanese!

  • BP

    It’s funny that the boss admits that Toyotas aren’t fun to drive lol.

  • davie

    Its a strange thing to look at how much Toyota has lost the interest of the motoring enthusiast. In the 70′s and 80′s, they still sold sensible cars but there was alsothe (mustang look-alike) RWD celicas, original FWD celica, 2000GT, Celica GT4 turbo, AE86 corolla, MR2 with on/off clutched supercharger and any number of corollas with the 4A-GE twin cam engine. The last celica was a honda-like high revving screamer.

    by the mid 90′s – none.

    Honda seems to have gone through the same situation.

    Good luck to toyota, glad they are starting to “remember”

    • Huh

      “by the mid 90′s – none.”

      Only the birth of the Mark IV Supra, urguably their most iconic sports car ever. The naughties is when it went down hill.

      • Damian

        “by the mid 90′s – none.”

        Don’t forget the JZX90/JZX100 Tourer V Chasers with the 1jz-gte turbo i6, good for 206kw. Think of these as Japan’s XR6T – only 250kg lighter and done ten years earlier than the Ford.

        The Toyota Soarer was also underrated and superior to our ‘iconic’ Monaro in more ways than one. It actually had proper multi-link suspension, instead of a piss poor semi trailing arm set-up like the Monaro.

      • jesse

        supra was released in 92/93… and the engine was developed through the 80′s… and production stopped in the 90′s too so he kinda has a point… it died in the 90′s but NOTHING has been decent in the naughties.

  • VW

    One car doesnt change the fact that 99% of their cars are whitegoods. And to be honest, if it takes Toyota 10 years to develop a vehicle like this (underpowered, some unusual physical features, cheap interior) then I wander how long it would take them to make a vehicle of 370z or Golf R caliber. It must have been hard for Toyota staff to make this car, fighting every cell in their body who drives them to make boring, lifeless and dull vehicles ordinarily.

    • Blue Soup

      you seem to forget or can’t see through your VW colored glasses that Toyota were building performance/Sports cars when all VW managed were cars that caught fire (hitlers revenge).
      To put Golf R and 370Z in the same caliber is just Dumb!!!! 1 is pure Sports Car the other is a Regular Shopping trolley that Granny drives to Church thats AWD with a Turbo it is no sports car just at best a Hot hatch.
      When i see MR2′s and Supra’s still driving around that have been mistreated and abused for most of thier lives still in drove’s BUT yet struggle to a GEN 4 golf of any description let alone a GTI (110kw YIPPEE!!!) I don’t think you should go mouthin off about what Toyota has been doin for the Past 15 years, I would call it PROFIT!!! why else are they in Business.

    • VW

      Not to mention they had to use a Subaru engine to make this car. So its soul isnt even Toyota.

  • Ford

    Were Toyota fun when the Celica existed recently? No. So how does this car change it? It’s literally just a RWD Celica. Same look. Same power. Same interior. Same price. I like how they market it as something revolutionary. The Supra was revoluntionary. This is not (for people other than Toyota fanboys).

    • RFAlpha

      Put the 7th gen up against the Toyota 86 and watch the 86 spank the Celica in every race.

      The ultimate irony is that the average person, like you, sees this car and compares the performance to the 7th gen Celica and say there’s been no improvement. The numbers might be similar but the entire philosophy is different. Hell the funny thing is, Toyota didn’t even build this car! The mechanics are almost all Subaru. It’s just got a new-gen Celica looking shell on it (you can blame Toyota for its looks) so people think there isn’t progress.

      We know that this car has been in development for at least 2 years, probably more around 4-5 years. We know that there’s a fair amount of parts-bin sharing as well as new technology. Which means for much of the last 2 years, Toyota and Subaru have jointly been testing the car. Testing out various parts, some old, some new. Tinkering with it to make sure it’s as good as it gets. Thinking what enthusiasts would like, such as room to install a roll cage, or an easily tuneable ECU.

      This is a platform as much as it is a feeler car. This car’s success will determine whether the light fun-to-drive coupe sports car market has legs. There’s rumours of all sorts of derivates – Subaru’s new WRC turbo is apparently based on this FA block. TRD are looking to supercharge it. A convertible may be in the works.

      We should all be hopeful that it sells well because what we are missing are the Celicas, 240SXs and S13s of this new, safety-orientated, billion mpg car era.

  • Martin V.

    Pfft, what ever. I’ll believe it when I read the reviews.

  • Toyota rubbish

    Toyota and fun just don’t go together.

    Only boring people drive Toyotas, the amount of crappy old rubbish Toyotas clogging our roads now is absolutely appalling, seriously do people really have no taste anymore?