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by Brett Davis

BMW and Toyota could be about to share fuel-efficient technologies, at least initially with Toyota adopting BMW diesel engines for an upcoming model in Europe.

According to a Nikkei Business Daily report, the two companies were recently in talks about such a deal, including Toyota borrowing a BMW 2.0-litre diesel engine for upcoming medium-sized models sold in Europe.

The proposal comes after Toyota sales declined in Europe last year by nine per cent. Having local diesel engine technology based in Europe is expected to reduce development costs for Toyota and help the company regain market share in the particular segment.

Toyota is hoping the move will also help it market its diesel vehicles in Europe more effectively, as the strong Yen continues to impact on the price of hybrid models.

Conversely, Toyota is said to be open to lending BMW its hybrid technologies. BMW has already signed a deal with PSA (Peugeot Citroen) in France however, which will see the two companies work on hybrid powertrains of the future.

It’s unknown at this stage what Toyota vehicles will adopt the engines, and when the company plans to launch them.

  • Willie

    Wouldn’t it be great to have a crystal ball to look into the ‘automotive’ future. I would love to know how the market sorts itself out over the next 10 years. Turbo direct injected petrol is hanging on by its finger nails. Turbo diesels are vogue at present. Hybrid will come on soon. Electric (I guess) is yet to have its day. Hydrogen (perhaps) may make an appreance. I think I may buy a V8 and put in the back corner of the shed so I can show my grand kids cause its day must be numbered (hope not though).

    • Alexander

      If anything it’s diesels that are starting to cling onto life, and petrol engines that will last a lot longer. BMW themselves said that Diesel is reaching the end of its life. Mercedes’ ‘DiesOtto’ engines and other petrol engines that are being developed that run compression ignition at low/medium revs and then revert to spark ignition at high revs will eliminate the need for diesels. If these advanced petrol engines are combined with mild/full or plug in hybrid systems, the family cars using <4.0l/100km on petrol will br the norm. Petrol engines still have heaps of development left. The 2014 EU6 emissions standards are a huge headache for diesels. The filtration systems needed to make them clean(ish) cost a bomb, don't like city driving (due to the need to self clean) and make the car use more fuel/sap the engines power. Australians are in love with diesels because they're relatively new in mainstream passenger cars on our market, we were late to the party, an now as the rest of the world is moving on, we're clinging to them.

      • AndyGF

        Listening to too many petrol hybrid tongue wagers again…

        All while breathing in your monthly dose of carcinogenic compounds filling up at the petrol pumps, which takes more energy to refine per litre over its diesel counterparts. Only to better diesels fuel economy index (only if you aren’t really going anywhere – ie: city driving) and its NOT a hot/cold day.

        Further proof of this will be the PRICE of all battery technologies/resources should the world replace even 1/10 of its diesel powered cars with hybrids, bringing home the true sense of the word; sustainability.

        You should be thanking the worlds diesel drivers, their cars are making it possible for you to gloat at your perceived UN-green counterparts, while still being able to afford you the ability to carry such massive/hi tech batteries around with you wherever you go.

        As far as your claim that filtration systems are a problem, how many years have catalytic converts being plaguing motorists lives? And the EU emissions standards are only a headache for non-EU manufacturers, which lets be frank, are ‘some way’ behind them and have been so for a while. Hence the above article…

        • Alexander

          A) Diesel fumes will never be on par with petrol fumes, despite whimsical arguments about gasses while filling at pumps. I don’t think you realise but diesel fumes are causing health problems in European cities and towns, not to mention accumulating on buildings etc. Diesel fumes are dirty no matter how much you want to deny it.

          B) If we replaced 1/10th of the worlds diesel cars with hybrid/hydrogen/ev (whatever), the cost of these technologies would fall considerably. These technologies NEED mass production to lower costs, remember how expensive a plasma TV was before everyone started buying them? ($20,000 to $900). In a decade we’ve seen hybrid batteries fall from $10,000 to around $4,000.

          C) BMW, Merc etc have all said EU6 will be/is a headache. read up.

          Ultimately time will tell who’s right & sarcastic armchair experts will loose out 😉

        • Maple Leaf

          The future is hybrid and then full electric. We may see diesel-hybrids as well. The days of ICE are numbered. The Australian market is quite primitive when compared to the US market with connected cars ( entune, myfordtouch etc etc). Battery tech is jumping by leaps and bounds. Remember fast land machines are electric powered. Try the TGV or the Bullet train. Look at Tesla.

          • VW

            Diesel is the superior alternative to Petrol. You get punchy low end torque with fuel economy that can match a hybrid (under real world driving conditions).

    • Jacob

      Hybrids should have been put in delivery Vans, they are on the road all day and operators would really appreciate the fuel savings.

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  • PoisonEagle

    A BMW mill would imbue Toyota with the kind of soul they would never otherwise have. Imagine a 2.0d engined Aurion, that would be a unique and appealing vehicle.

    • F1MOtoGP

      In Europe they got the Avensis sedan and wagon 4695mm long with 2 and 2.2 diesel engines.

  • Daniel D

    Should be interesting to see the reactions of a BMW driver, when he sees his first Toyota Diesel, that some dimwit has fit a BMW badge to. lol

    • JooberFPVGT

      Really does the De-Holden / Chevy rebadging mentality live outside of Holden?

  • Grammar Nazi

    This makes a lot of sense. Toyota’s diesels are at least two generations behind the rest of the game.

  • Blue Soup

    I am sure that even with an inspiring engine range like that, Toyota will still make something so uninspiring i will still want to fall asleep at the wheel just to kill the boredom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Doctor

      Yeah, even its sewing machines are boring – like a 70’s Singer. Its cars follow the same pattern… reliable but BORING.

      • Blue Soup

        Reliabilty and boring don’t have to be in the same sentence when it comes to motoring, But the good Doctor seems to think so. Go back to your sewing machine and make me some curtains “B*#?H”

  • 440 R/T Charger

    Its a win-win situation for both.

    • gmh-bogan

      R/T Good comment its a great win- win for Toyota and Bmw.Two of the best car companys in the world.

  • stoy

    BMW, don’t give Toyota anything.
    Let them stew in their own mediocrity.

  • Flabby Chap

    European engines for the Europeans. As usual Toyota is a marketing genius. There’s no market for diesel passenger cars in Japan, US, Canada or Aust.

    • dfdf

      That’s true.. The whole point of this agreement with BMW is to create Diesel engines for the European market..

  • Martin

    It’s interesting how CA didn’t mention that in exchange, BMW will gain access to Toyota’s hybrid technologies, yet other news sources stated the full story.

    • Flabby Chap

      Coz they are BM fanbois?

    • 123321

      I can tell you that hybrid technology is 1000x more complex than diesel technology. It’s just that the non-Euro car companies aren’t interested in diesel passenger car is because there is not really a market for diesel passenger cars outside of the EU because of the massive protection and fuel tax structure in the EU.

  • John-piere

    Would be newsworthy if TOY.MO.CO.AU were smart enough to put them in OUR passenger cars.
    NZ gets diesels Toyota cars, apparently we aren’t important enough.

    • 123321

      Last week at the local servo, petrol 129.9cpl, diesel 145.9cpl. A diesel car saves 20% in fuel over a petrol car. But diesel costs 10% more at the pump. How does that work?

      Keep in mind that a modern new age Euro diesel engine is a lot more complex than a petrol engine. It has variable geometry turbos, inter coolers, engine management computer, mega fuel rail pressure, new age diesel injectors are $1000 a pop and $4000 to replace all 4. Calibration/training of the diesel injectors costs $1000. The diesel fuel pumps are $3000-$6000 each. All this is without mentioning the higher initial purchase price. I’d get a diesel car if diesel fuel costs a lot less than petrol, like it is over in the EU.

      • 123321

        And there’s more… like they say :) …. The diesel engines have DPF (diesel particulate filter) that works at high temperatures to burn off the collected shoot, got to drive it for sometime at free way speed once in a while to clear it. And the urea solution for the new diesel engines, something like $60 for a few litres, got to fill the reservoir up with a couple of litres as it’s injected into the diesel setup to reduce the emission. If it runs out, the engine will come to a complete stop. BTW, the VG turbos are $2500-$5000 each. Inter coolers around $1000.

  • FrugalOne

    You forgot to mention that BMW will have the ability to tap into and use BigT’s[tm.f0] hybrid technology in return

    Thats part of this alleged agreement

    • JooberFPVGT

      Yep, hopefully they find ways to refine each others technologies.