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	<title>Comments on: 2007 Holden Epica &#8211; Korean Goodness</title>
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		<title>By: Millatime</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-86245</link>
		<dc:creator>Millatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every day the Epica (Daewoo Tosca) remains on sale it damages the Holden brand further. No ESP even in the &quot;high end&quot; models, dull dreary underpowered engines, dreadful resale values and in terms of ride handling dynamics it is completely outclassed by the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day the Epica (Daewoo Tosca) remains on sale it damages the Holden brand further. No ESP even in the &#8220;high end&#8221; models, dull dreary underpowered engines, dreadful resale values and in terms of ride handling dynamics it is completely outclassed by the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: GEOFF McGREGOR</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-86236</link>
		<dc:creator>GEOFF McGREGOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my work I get to drive most makes of cars and I was  impressed recently by the smoothness and quiteness of the 6 cylinder Holden Epica I has the use of for several days.
It handled undulations and bumps in the road at least as well as any late model Holden or Falcon,was also quieter on the highway as well as being a much cheaper vehicle to purchase.
Maybe It could have done with a bit more power but unless you are a lead foot this would not worry you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my work I get to drive most makes of cars and I was  impressed recently by the smoothness and quiteness of the 6 cylinder Holden Epica I has the use of for several days.<br />
It handled undulations and bumps in the road at least as well as any late model Holden or Falcon,was also quieter on the highway as well as being a much cheaper vehicle to purchase.<br />
Maybe It could have done with a bit more power but unless you are a lead foot this would not worry you.</p>
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		<title>By: GhisGT</title>
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		<dc:creator>GhisGT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not awe-inspiring, but it&#039;s hardly ugly. It&#039;s very Camry, Aurion sort of bland.

The AU Falcon, now THAT was ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not awe-inspiring, but it&#8217;s hardly ugly. It&#8217;s very Camry, Aurion sort of bland.</p>
<p>The AU Falcon, now THAT was ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-80928</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anyway, last friday at the Brisbane International Motorshow, the Epica was unveiled, and my god was it ugly!&quot;

Sorry CarAdvice but I don&#039;t find this (the Epica) ugly it&#039;s quite good looking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyway, last friday at the Brisbane International Motorshow, the Epica was unveiled, and my god was it ugly!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry CarAdvice but I don&#8217;t find this (the Epica) ugly it&#8217;s quite good looking!</p>
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		<title>By: FORDS R DISGRACEFUL</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-80920</link>
		<dc:creator>FORDS R DISGRACEFUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Epica looks better than the falcon range</description>
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		<title>By: FORD is No.1</title>
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		<dc:creator>FORD is No.1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to consumer affairs Jean..  Holden rebadge cars so it&#039;s not a Holden in the first place it&#039;s called false advertising...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to consumer affairs Jean..  Holden rebadge cars so it&#8217;s not a Holden in the first place it&#8217;s called false advertising&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-61452</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the web site I cannot send any complain to manufacture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the web site I cannot send any complain to manufacture.</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-61451</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an Epica 2008 Model and I have a big complain: after 2-3 km the front wheel (rim) become hot. The dealer said that is normal for this model, but....
Maybe is a bad car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an Epica 2008 Model and I have a big complain: after 2-3 km the front wheel (rim) become hot. The dealer said that is normal for this model, but&#8230;.<br />
Maybe is a bad car.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-46943</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory, can I HAVE SOME OF THOSE DRUGS YOU ARE TAKING?

The epica is an example of devolution, this is car going backwards in time. You were a fool to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory, can I HAVE SOME OF THOSE DRUGS YOU ARE TAKING?</p>
<p>The epica is an example of devolution, this is car going backwards in time. You were a fool to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-45773</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont worry Greg, Holden has great plans that may be better than fords mondeo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont worry Greg, Holden has great plans that may be better than fords mondeo!</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-45759</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel sorry for all the suckers who have bought the crapica and didn&#039;t do thier homework, now ugly crapica has produced bad sales for Holden and resale value keep&#039;s rocketing down :-)hahahahaha, Ford Mondeo kicks Holden (GM-DAEWOO) ass to the kerb, gee wizz that must hurt....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel sorry for all the suckers who have bought the crapica and didn&#8217;t do thier homework, now ugly crapica has produced bad sales for Holden and resale value keep&#8217;s rocketing down :-)hahahahaha, Ford Mondeo kicks Holden (GM-DAEWOO) ass to the kerb, gee wizz that must hurt&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-45756</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Have also just Purchased an EPICA cdxi

 I&#039;m agree with Windy The proofs in the Pudding!

 Go for a Test drive before you spray this Value for Money vehicle!

 A lot of Toyota&#039;s are made in Thailand as is the Mini Minors etc etc

 Most of all you buy these days is out of some Asian Country&#039;s

 I&#039;ve been Driving for Thirty Seven Years and have  Driven Hundreds of Different Cars and this Epica is up there with the Best!

 My Two cents worth 

     Regards tall poppies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Have also just Purchased an EPICA cdxi</p>
<p> I&#8217;m agree with Windy The proofs in the Pudding!</p>
<p> Go for a Test drive before you spray this Value for Money vehicle!</p>
<p> A lot of Toyota&#8217;s are made in Thailand as is the Mini Minors etc etc</p>
<p> Most of all you buy these days is out of some Asian Country&#8217;s</p>
<p> I&#8217;ve been Driving for Thirty Seven Years and have  Driven Hundreds of Different Cars and this Epica is up there with the Best!</p>
<p> My Two cents worth </p>
<p>     Regards tall poppies.</p>
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		<title>By: windy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-40489</link>
		<dc:creator>windy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just purchased a epica cdxi. I was actually after the VE but the epica was in a class of it own for the price. the omega didnt have 17&#039; alloys, leather interior, 6 cd stacker, MP3 compatible, full electrics. you ask most people and they would expect these as common components on a car that is worth 30k+. When i hopped into the VE it just said &quot;basic&quot; but when i sat and then drove the epica it said luxury. For the price of the CDXi you will be hard pressed to find a car that has as many features as it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just purchased a epica cdxi. I was actually after the VE but the epica was in a class of it own for the price. the omega didnt have 17&#8242; alloys, leather interior, 6 cd stacker, MP3 compatible, full electrics. you ask most people and they would expect these as common components on a car that is worth 30k+. When i hopped into the VE it just said &#8220;basic&#8221; but when i sat and then drove the epica it said luxury. For the price of the CDXi you will be hard pressed to find a car that has as many features as it.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-32262</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that the Epica is bad, its just ordinary in most area&#039;s and poor in some. The motor was a bad call, its really just not up to it. The engineering is old and cannot cater for ESP. Handling and feel are also issues.

Holden has done some good work where possible tho, the handling could be much worse, and the suspension does a pretty good job as well in term of ride comfort. The motor is in some circumstances fairly quite and refined, on others the trannie is having a fit.

Daewoo build quality and reliability have mostly always been an issue, partic after 50000 kms as a general rule, when sadly buyers most likely will be out of warranty. It&#039;s not a matter of whether the vehicle has been put together nicely(not to bad from reports) but will is stay together??

Sadly, historical indicators are that it wont.

This is a tarted up Tosca, not a safe as MOST rivals, does not have the handling and power of MOST rivals, does not have the historical build quality and motor reliablilty of MOST rivals. The bottom line engineering on this vehicle is nearly 10 years old. Think about it, does a cheap Korean car loaded with goodies, no engine performance and limited handling abilities sound 90&#039;ish to you guys :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that the Epica is bad, its just ordinary in most area&#8217;s and poor in some. The motor was a bad call, its really just not up to it. The engineering is old and cannot cater for ESP. Handling and feel are also issues.</p>
<p>Holden has done some good work where possible tho, the handling could be much worse, and the suspension does a pretty good job as well in term of ride comfort. The motor is in some circumstances fairly quite and refined, on others the trannie is having a fit.</p>
<p>Daewoo build quality and reliability have mostly always been an issue, partic after 50000 kms as a general rule, when sadly buyers most likely will be out of warranty. It&#8217;s not a matter of whether the vehicle has been put together nicely(not to bad from reports) but will is stay together??</p>
<p>Sadly, historical indicators are that it wont.</p>
<p>This is a tarted up Tosca, not a safe as MOST rivals, does not have the handling and power of MOST rivals, does not have the historical build quality and motor reliablilty of MOST rivals. The bottom line engineering on this vehicle is nearly 10 years old. Think about it, does a cheap Korean car loaded with goodies, no engine performance and limited handling abilities sound 90&#8242;ish to you guys :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-31338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The car would match up with a taxi driver,with what they charge to go to point A,and B.Just a cheap mock up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The car would match up with a taxi driver,with what they charge to go to point A,and B.Just a cheap mock up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/1485/2007-holden-epica-korean-goodness/comment-page-2/#comment-29026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there is a lot of emotion in car choice, and I know for a fact that I&#039;ll never buy a GM product again after my first taste.  I was given an EJ for my first car.  It seemed like an &quot;old car&quot; at the time, vintage really and I wasn&#039;t too disconcerted when I dicovered that there were absolutely zero parts available for it from Holden.  None, zilch nada nothing.  However what seemed &quot;old&quot; to a 16 year old kid, now as a 45 year old doesn&#039;t seem that old.  The car was at the time only 14 years old.  I&#039;ve got 3 registered vehicles right now, none are GM, but my oldest is a suzuki.  An import, and currently 22 years old.  I live in the country and I&#039;ve found that every single part I&#039;ve ever needed has been delivered to me next business day at the latest and most delivered same day.  Not that I&#039;ve needed many parts.  This car has *never* failed to get me to my destination *ever*.  While my mate&#039;s SV6 commodore spends more time at the dealers than in his garage, and we don&#039;t need to mention the fact that my EJ broke down constantly, over heated when driven at more than 40 miles an hour, was more bog than steel, burned nearly as much oil as petrol and spun a mainbearing three months after getting it back on the road after a ground up rebuild. (ie. it was completely stuffed, I rang a wreckers who took it away for free).  You may &quot;love&quot; your holdens, but comparing them to proper cars...  They&#039;re just a joke.  Especially the &quot;all new&quot; commodore that uses an engine designed before the Vincent Black Shadow....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there is a lot of emotion in car choice, and I know for a fact that I&#8217;ll never buy a GM product again after my first taste.  I was given an EJ for my first car.  It seemed like an &#8220;old car&#8221; at the time, vintage really and I wasn&#8217;t too disconcerted when I dicovered that there were absolutely zero parts available for it from Holden.  None, zilch nada nothing.  However what seemed &#8220;old&#8221; to a 16 year old kid, now as a 45 year old doesn&#8217;t seem that old.  The car was at the time only 14 years old.  I&#8217;ve got 3 registered vehicles right now, none are GM, but my oldest is a suzuki.  An import, and currently 22 years old.  I live in the country and I&#8217;ve found that every single part I&#8217;ve ever needed has been delivered to me next business day at the latest and most delivered same day.  Not that I&#8217;ve needed many parts.  This car has *never* failed to get me to my destination *ever*.  While my mate&#8217;s SV6 commodore spends more time at the dealers than in his garage, and we don&#8217;t need to mention the fact that my EJ broke down constantly, over heated when driven at more than 40 miles an hour, was more bog than steel, burned nearly as much oil as petrol and spun a mainbearing three months after getting it back on the road after a ground up rebuild. (ie. it was completely stuffed, I rang a wreckers who took it away for free).  You may &#8220;love&#8221; your holdens, but comparing them to proper cars&#8230;  They&#8217;re just a joke.  Especially the &#8220;all new&#8221; commodore that uses an engine designed before the Vincent Black Shadow&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
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		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holdenwoo, shame on you for giving us more Korean crapness, just can&#039;t be forgiving for making people think this is true blue, this rebadged crapica (disguised daewoo) will NOT mean alot to Australia, at least you are getting 10 year old technology... Fukkkkkkkkk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holdenwoo, shame on you for giving us more Korean crapness, just can&#8217;t be forgiving for making people think this is true blue, this rebadged crapica (disguised daewoo) will NOT mean alot to Australia, at least you are getting 10 year old technology&#8230; Fukkkkkkkkk</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats right, I thought wheels seemed to say more good stuf about Holdrolet than Ford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats right, I thought wheels seemed to say more good stuf about Holdrolet than Ford.</p>
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		<title>By: watto_cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>watto_cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Wheels might as well be owned by Holden.

This may be purely subjective (.ie. my opinion on looks) but I can&#039;t stand it when the headlights or taillights go halfway up the bonnet or boot. I always thought the Mondeo from (7 or 8 years ago), with its almost boot length taillights, looked like rubbish for this reason, and the Epicrap has this same style in the headlights.

New Mondeo looks very classy tho and I&#039;m betting it&#039;s quality is way over the Epicrap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Wheels might as well be owned by Holden.</p>
<p>This may be purely subjective (.ie. my opinion on looks) but I can&#8217;t stand it when the headlights or taillights go halfway up the bonnet or boot. I always thought the Mondeo from (7 or 8 years ago), with its almost boot length taillights, looked like rubbish for this reason, and the Epicrap has this same style in the headlights.</p>
<p>New Mondeo looks very classy tho and I&#8217;m betting it&#8217;s quality is way over the Epicrap.</p>
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		<title>By: alborz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alborz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love wheels, I buy it just for the laugh. Great Magazine if you love Holden though...</description>
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