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	<title>Comments on: HSV W427 Officially Launched</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well given that the GTR still has a waiting list to buy one, and Holden had to more than halve their production of the W427 because no-one was buying one, would indicate that the majority of people failed to see the &#039;value&#039; (!?) of the W427 compared to any of its competitors. And given that Holden had to cut production by over half to meet demand, I&#039;d say they won&#039;t hold value particularly well. The GTHO phase 3 was a legend, thats why people pay so much for them, the W427 is a small run overpriced track car that has no race history, no successes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well given that the GTR still has a waiting list to buy one, and Holden had to more than halve their production of the W427 because no-one was buying one, would indicate that the majority of people failed to see the &#8216;value&#8217; (!?) of the W427 compared to any of its competitors. And given that Holden had to cut production by over half to meet demand, I&#8217;d say they won&#8217;t hold value particularly well. The GTHO phase 3 was a legend, thats why people pay so much for them, the W427 is a small run overpriced track car that has no race history, no successes.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also with a half decent driver these keep up with the gtr on the ring for all you know it alls out there so go buy a GTR but I dont think they will hold value as well as the 427 thats why they are worth spending a bit more on yes??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also with a half decent driver these keep up with the gtr on the ring for all you know it alls out there so go buy a GTR but I dont think they will hold value as well as the 427 thats why they are worth spending a bit more on yes??</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14795/hsv-w427-officially-launched/comment-page-3/#comment-131542</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who belives that the 427 is not worth the money has absoutley no f*#kin idea what they are talking about. No I dont own one but if I had the money I would have to make a serious choice between the gtr and the 427.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who belives that the 427 is not worth the money has absoutley no f*#kin idea what they are talking about. No I dont own one but if I had the money I would have to make a serious choice between the gtr and the 427.</p>
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		<title>By: melbournejester</title>
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		<dc:creator>melbournejester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Collectable. Hmmmm, I keep looking at this Commodore with a big engine and I cannot notice any differences to a plain-dog clubby. Man, you really have to be thick to buy anything HSV/FPV. No wonder all these illiterate builders and tradies buy these junk-mobiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collectable. Hmmmm, I keep looking at this Commodore with a big engine and I cannot notice any differences to a plain-dog clubby. Man, you really have to be thick to buy anything HSV/FPV. No wonder all these illiterate builders and tradies buy these junk-mobiles.</p>
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		<title>By: melbournejester</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14795/hsv-w427-officially-launched/comment-page-3/#comment-87284</link>
		<dc:creator>melbournejester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just looking at the mega-long wheelbase dispels any myths of this car ever being a &quot;sports&quot; car. Nice family car though, nothing else. Typical product of the local car industry, masquearading a big, lumpy, overpowered monster as a family mans sports car. Someone said collectable hahaha, Commodores are like stray cats, on every bloody corner, cashed up-bogans spending huge money on some race commodore with rego does not make all commodores collectable. Each to their own, I steer clear of these monsters, wouldn&#039;t spend more than a $1 on a commodore or a falcon, or a camry. GMH should take this dynosaur down to the Ring to show us what 150K gets you from Holden showroom, but it can make all the buyers walk right into the RS-4/M3 showroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at the mega-long wheelbase dispels any myths of this car ever being a &#8220;sports&#8221; car. Nice family car though, nothing else. Typical product of the local car industry, masquearading a big, lumpy, overpowered monster as a family mans sports car. Someone said collectable hahaha, Commodores are like stray cats, on every bloody corner, cashed up-bogans spending huge money on some race commodore with rego does not make all commodores collectable. Each to their own, I steer clear of these monsters, wouldn&#8217;t spend more than a $1 on a commodore or a falcon, or a camry. GMH should take this dynosaur down to the Ring to show us what 150K gets you from Holden showroom, but it can make all the buyers walk right into the RS-4/M3 showroom.</p>
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		<title>By: gt2000</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14795/hsv-w427-officially-launched/comment-page-3/#comment-87157</link>
		<dc:creator>gt2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these will be about as collectable as a datsun bluebird! made in numbers to profit a going down the toilet company $150,000 today in 12 months $70,000 if its next to 0 kms!! buy a lexus isf or gtr instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these will be about as collectable as a datsun bluebird! made in numbers to profit a going down the toilet company $150,000 today in 12 months $70,000 if its next to 0 kms!! buy a lexus isf or gtr instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Joober</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 08:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheel, I think &#039;I eat&#039; is just stirring the pot, a rubbish post nethertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheel, I think &#8216;I eat&#8217; is just stirring the pot, a rubbish post nethertheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Zilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 08:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a sweet ride! a little expensive but still better than Ford!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a sweet ride! a little expensive but still better than Ford!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: [I Eat V8s]: Holdens are shit man aussies will never make anything good, stick to your 4 and 20 pies and leave the car building to people with knowledge and taste..

there only making 400 and something of them because there gay and they know it 

What - like the Japanese who have given us cars like the Nissan Micra; Nissan Tiida; Mazda 121; and Daihatsu Copen.. now there&#039;s a couple of &quot;gay&quot; looking cars if ever there was one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: [I Eat V8s]: Holdens are shit man aussies will never make anything good, stick to your 4 and 20 pies and leave the car building to people with knowledge and taste..</p>
<p>there only making 400 and something of them because there gay and they know it </p>
<p>What &#8211; like the Japanese who have given us cars like the Nissan Micra; Nissan Tiida; Mazda 121; and Daihatsu Copen.. now there&#8217;s a couple of &#8220;gay&#8221; looking cars if ever there was one.</p>
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		<title>By: Watto_Cobra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watto_Cobra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 05:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful addition to the topic there &quot;I Eat V8&#039;s&quot;. Truly insightful stuff.

*sarcasm*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful addition to the topic there &#8220;I Eat V8&#8217;s&#8221;. Truly insightful stuff.</p>
<p>*sarcasm*</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14795/hsv-w427-officially-launched/comment-page-3/#comment-86807</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 05:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a ideal way to mark an anniversary by putting a range of features etc that aren&#039;t on any other HSV into a car like this inorder tomake it truely unique and very collectable.

Having said that for $150K I would opt for either a Brand New BMW M3 or AWD Audi S5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a ideal way to mark an anniversary by putting a range of features etc that aren&#8217;t on any other HSV into a car like this inorder tomake it truely unique and very collectable.</p>
<p>Having said that for $150K I would opt for either a Brand New BMW M3 or AWD Audi S5</p>
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		<title>By: i eat v8's</title>
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		<dc:creator>i eat v8's</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This car is shitttttttttttttt, my 4 cyl 2ltr turbo will eat it for breakfast lunch and dinner, and it costed me 90% less then what this costs and it looks 150 times better haha holdens are shit man aussies will never make anything good, stick to your 4 and 20 pies and leave the car building to people with knowledge and taste..

P.s dont even compare this over priced box with a GTR
there only making 400 and something of them because there gay and they know it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This car is shitttttttttttttt, my 4 cyl 2ltr turbo will eat it for breakfast lunch and dinner, and it costed me 90% less then what this costs and it looks 150 times better haha holdens are shit man aussies will never make anything good, stick to your 4 and 20 pies and leave the car building to people with knowledge and taste..</p>
<p>P.s dont even compare this over priced box with a GTR<br />
there only making 400 and something of them because there gay and they know it</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, sounds like the Bogans are still going off topic, and dribl!ng shit!! Everything is in order here!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, sounds like the Bogans are still going off topic, and dribl!ng shit!! Everything is in order here!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/14795/hsv-w427-officially-launched/comment-page-3/#comment-86791</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unbelieveable.... A Toyota fan who is trying to stay or at least get back on topic!

What next South Sydney win the NRL; Fremantle the AFL Premiership or Australia the Soccer World Cup?

I just don&#039;t believe it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unbelieveable&#8230;. A Toyota fan who is trying to stay or at least get back on topic!</p>
<p>What next South Sydney win the NRL; Fremantle the AFL Premiership or Australia the Soccer World Cup?</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t believe it!</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote [BM]: Either way Wheelnut they would be a bogan,unless of course they drive a Toyota ,Merc or Skoda. 

Even more so if they didn&#039;t drive a Green 2008 Toyota Prado D4D Auto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote [BM]: Either way Wheelnut they would be a bogan,unless of course they drive a Toyota ,Merc or Skoda. </p>
<p>Even more so if they didn&#8217;t drive a Green 2008 Toyota Prado D4D Auto</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wheelnut, as I have said before; dictionary.com defines a car as any wheeled vehicle.And this is my understanding. It does not specify any load, passenger, axle capacity. 
Sure this site focuses on passenger car side of things, but it also mentions utes, vans, and 4wds.
But the above brands you brought on here, you have taken them from my introduction on the forum. So now that you mentioned them, i gave you a more detailed description, of what i was actually referring to.
Anyway this is a W427 blog so just leave it at that!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wheelnut, as I have said before; dictionary.com defines a car as any wheeled vehicle.And this is my understanding. It does not specify any load, passenger, axle capacity.<br />
Sure this site focuses on passenger car side of things, but it also mentions utes, vans, and 4wds.<br />
But the above brands you brought on here, you have taken them from my introduction on the forum. So now that you mentioned them, i gave you a more detailed description, of what i was actually referring to.<br />
Anyway this is a W427 blog so just leave it at that!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way Wheelnut they would be a bogan,unless of course they drive a Toyota ,Merc or Skoda .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way Wheelnut they would be a bogan,unless of course they drive a Toyota ,Merc or Skoda .</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford Volvo Toyota and Mitsubishi for instance also make Cars and Trucks so when you say you like/hate Fords or Volvlos etc what are you talking about their cars or their trucks....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford Volvo Toyota and Mitsubishi for instance also make Cars and Trucks so when you say you like/hate Fords or Volvlos etc what are you talking about their cars or their trucks&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomas79: If you went by the definition of Car [which you referred to] then surely a Toyota Aurion  should be able to carry/tow the same amount of cargo as the latest Freightliner... or a Mini should be able to clear sand dunes and make it through rough rocky terrain like an OKA

But can it? NO - why not they are both cars?

Can a Propeller driven Cesna carry the same number of Passengers as the latest Boeing 777 Dreamliner or be as manouvreable or as fast as a FA-18 Fighter Jet etc?... I mean they&#039;re all Aeroplanes aren&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomas79: If you went by the definition of Car [which you referred to] then surely a Toyota Aurion  should be able to carry/tow the same amount of cargo as the latest Freightliner&#8230; or a Mini should be able to clear sand dunes and make it through rough rocky terrain like an OKA</p>
<p>But can it? NO &#8211; why not they are both cars?</p>
<p>Can a Propeller driven Cesna carry the same number of Passengers as the latest Boeing 777 Dreamliner or be as manouvreable or as fast as a FA-18 Fighter Jet etc?&#8230; I mean they&#8217;re all Aeroplanes aren&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this car looks worse than the standard HSV&#039;s and not that much faster for that crazy price tag?

The whole thing screams try-hard against its more &#039;business suit&#039; rivals from Germany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this car looks worse than the standard HSV&#8217;s and not that much faster for that crazy price tag?</p>
<p>The whole thing screams try-hard against its more &#8216;business suit&#8217; rivals from Germany.</p>
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