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		<title>By: Matson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really annoys me that they are testing the G6E vs the Calais , when it should be matched with the Calais V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really annoys me that they are testing the G6E vs the Calais , when it should be matched with the Calais V</p>
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		<title>By: Shak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every other site and mag that i have read has said that the Calais has one of the best steering set up&#039;s in this country. and CA said that they hated it something must have been wrong with the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every other site and mag that i have read has said that the Calais has one of the best steering set up&#8217;s in this country. and CA said that they hated it something must have been wrong with the car.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or the Japenese cars becoming the fuel guzzlers of the market.  Every review has the Maxima and Accord at using 20-30% more fuel than the heavier Falcon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or the Japenese cars becoming the fuel guzzlers of the market.  Every review has the Maxima and Accord at using 20-30% more fuel than the heavier Falcon.</p>
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		<title>By: ToyoTA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToyoTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holden Commodore. Why would you want to buy that piece of excrement. It is bad enough I have to drive one for work.
While ago I had a new one that had less than 200 km on the clock. The fuel hatch release cable snapped at first attempt to refuel, then the piece of manure stopped and would only go in reverse. Servce guy told me the plug on automatic gearbox was not secured properly and fell off.

Good to see that finally Ford is doing something right, I could not stand their styling, but like the XT.

Have not driven the XT for but love my Aurion. The engine/tranny is just sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holden Commodore. Why would you want to buy that piece of excrement. It is bad enough I have to drive one for work.<br />
While ago I had a new one that had less than 200 km on the clock. The fuel hatch release cable snapped at first attempt to refuel, then the piece of manure stopped and would only go in reverse. Servce guy told me the plug on automatic gearbox was not secured properly and fell off.</p>
<p>Good to see that finally Ford is doing something right, I could not stand their styling, but like the XT.</p>
<p>Have not driven the XT for but love my Aurion. The engine/tranny is just sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: tekkyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tekkyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, no competition really...the Falcon and Accord (being 2008 models) cleaned up

having a 5-speed auto made the lack of flat torque curve less apparent (to the driver) in the Accord than the Aurion 

look forward to updates/seriesII of Aurion and Commodore, hopefully soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, no competition really&#8230;the Falcon and Accord (being 2008 models) cleaned up</p>
<p>having a 5-speed auto made the lack of flat torque curve less apparent (to the driver) in the Accord than the Aurion </p>
<p>look forward to updates/seriesII of Aurion and Commodore, hopefully soon</p>
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		<title>By: Coin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if they had bothered to test the J31 Nissan Maxima with its legendary VQ35DE V6 engine there would be no arguement. The Maxima is almost a forgotten car, and would outperform all the abovementioned vehicles tested in this article, with the exception of the Accord V6..

The plastics and overall feel of Commodores are horrible, even in the Calais</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if they had bothered to test the J31 Nissan Maxima with its legendary VQ35DE V6 engine there would be no arguement. The Maxima is almost a forgotten car, and would outperform all the abovementioned vehicles tested in this article, with the exception of the Accord V6..</p>
<p>The plastics and overall feel of Commodores are horrible, even in the Calais</p>
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		<title>By: Slick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mate of mine is 6-6, He sat in the front and back of my old VP, Never had an issue, Also same day another mate who is 6-3 sat in the back without having leg issues, Something Toyota can&#039;t match still.
So i don&#039;t see them as a true large car, They are semi large.

Best was, 5 in the car. Heights go, 6-6, 6-4, 6-3, 5-11 5-7.
Weight in total was very light... 560kg+.. All in seatbelts.
I&#039;m not trying to crap on Toyota, But they don&#039;t offer the whole package in my opinion sorry to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mate of mine is 6-6, He sat in the front and back of my old VP, Never had an issue, Also same day another mate who is 6-3 sat in the back without having leg issues, Something Toyota can&#8217;t match still.<br />
So i don&#8217;t see them as a true large car, They are semi large.</p>
<p>Best was, 5 in the car. Heights go, 6-6, 6-4, 6-3, 5-11 5-7.<br />
Weight in total was very light&#8230; 560kg+.. All in seatbelts.<br />
I&#8217;m not trying to crap on Toyota, But they don&#8217;t offer the whole package in my opinion sorry to say.</p>
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		<title>By: t</title>
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		<dc:creator>t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>toyotas are dull cardigan mobiles....

ALL OF THE NEW RANGE

wheres the excitement??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>toyotas are dull cardigan mobiles&#8230;.</p>
<p>ALL OF THE NEW RANGE</p>
<p>wheres the excitement??</p>
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		<title>By: t</title>
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		<dc:creator>t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>\&quot;\&quot;If Commodores are so poor quality and unreliable, why did Toyota stick Lexcen badges on them for 6 years? \&quot;\&quot;


HAHAH!!

i guess putting holden badges on daewoos makes them a good car too...

did a lexcen outlast a commodore?  i think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>\&#8221;\&#8221;If Commodores are so poor quality and unreliable, why did Toyota stick Lexcen badges on them for 6 years? \&#8221;\&#8221;</p>
<p>HAHAH!!</p>
<p>i guess putting holden badges on daewoos makes them a good car too&#8230;</p>
<p>did a lexcen outlast a commodore?  i think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok had my first ride in a Camry yesterday,impressed? hahaha yeah right,Wheelnut and I were picking the bag out of the interior let alone the lack of performance.

Plastic fantastic! Just as much as any of the Holden and Falcons,plus the center console comes out too far into the back cabin area and doesn&#039;t allow the center passenger any room,Ive sat in the back of a BF,VE and new Camry now and can tell you profusely the Falcon kicks the Camry in quality and room in the back,I must confess I was surprised I thought it would have been better.I guess all that stirring the ex about the crap quality of the BA/BF GT was uncalled for when comparing it to what I sat in yesterday!

My best friend Tracey who drives a 2005 duel cab F250 said that her truck thats now done 160,000 is cheaper to service than hubbies new Prado,that shocked me and Wheelnut, and yep their both diesel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok had my first ride in a Camry yesterday,impressed? hahaha yeah right,Wheelnut and I were picking the bag out of the interior let alone the lack of performance.</p>
<p>Plastic fantastic! Just as much as any of the Holden and Falcons,plus the center console comes out too far into the back cabin area and doesn&#8217;t allow the center passenger any room,Ive sat in the back of a BF,VE and new Camry now and can tell you profusely the Falcon kicks the Camry in quality and room in the back,I must confess I was surprised I thought it would have been better.I guess all that stirring the ex about the crap quality of the BA/BF GT was uncalled for when comparing it to what I sat in yesterday!</p>
<p>My best friend Tracey who drives a 2005 duel cab F250 said that her truck thats now done 160,000 is cheaper to service than hubbies new Prado,that shocked me and Wheelnut, and yep their both diesel.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ross how is ya? You tall too? Golfy has the same problem getting in the old BA/BF and from memory I think hes 6&quot;5 .When we went to the Perth Motor Show together we had a test seat I think he said they had improved the front section ,but not sure if he sat in the back? How tall are you babe ?
Oh and I love the new Falcon add for the ANCAP test results,thats gold!They announce the Australian made cars that pass the 5 start ANCAP test,that would be 1 only,well done FORD!! Im wondering if Toyota wish they had spent that extra $100,000 to get that extra star now,or maybe they knew they wouldnt pass it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ross how is ya? You tall too? Golfy has the same problem getting in the old BA/BF and from memory I think hes 6&#8243;5 .When we went to the Perth Motor Show together we had a test seat I think he said they had improved the front section ,but not sure if he sat in the back? How tall are you babe ?<br />
Oh and I love the new Falcon add for the ANCAP test results,thats gold!They announce the Australian made cars that pass the 5 start ANCAP test,that would be 1 only,well done FORD!! Im wondering if Toyota wish they had spent that extra $100,000 to get that extra star now,or maybe they knew they wouldnt pass it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every photo and write up of the new Ford shows what a fantastic job ford has done. A 5-series or E-class would cost 2 -3 times more to buy, but would they do the job 2 - 3 times better? I don&#039;t think so. My only gripe with the FG is the lack of rear seat adustable head restraints in any models. For tall folk like me with my head so close to the rear header rail, they are a vital safety feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every photo and write up of the new Ford shows what a fantastic job ford has done. A 5-series or E-class would cost 2 -3 times more to buy, but would they do the job 2 &#8211; 3 times better? I don&#8217;t think so. My only gripe with the FG is the lack of rear seat adustable head restraints in any models. For tall folk like me with my head so close to the rear header rail, they are a vital safety feature.</p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford wins again so lets all just buy Falcons and forget about the rest. But that will never happen. People want fuel efficient cars and there the ones that are selling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford wins again so lets all just buy Falcons and forget about the rest. But that will never happen. People want fuel efficient cars and there the ones that are selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgasshk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgasshk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, I get so distracted when I type big ones. lmao.

Where is was meaning to go with the comments about passion for the vehicle etc.  A LOT of people start with the passionate car, that maybe mum or dad drive when they were kids.  Love the Falcon or Commie, do it up (Mine had a sick stereo. lol)  but then down the track people get smarter...

Toyota is a SMART purchase, a Reliable, Durable vehicle that holds value and is relatively easy to repair and usually does not break down.  

This is stats, not opinion...  Why do you think Toyota DO sell SOOOO many of them?  It&#039;s not for the go fast factor, not for the styling factor, not for the price factor (being most Toyota&#039;s actually cost more than the competition.) its purely because people GET WHAT THEY PAY FOR!  A vehicle that gets you where you need to go.  Isn&#039;t a complete slug, and usually pretty comfortable.  and will continue to do so day in, day out for quite some time.

Look at the millions of HiLux sales...  general rule HiLux costs 1,500 - 5000 more than its closest competitor depenign on grade level...  Yet it does so...  You think tradies are going to go and buy something that is essential to their working life, because it looks pretty, goes fast and they like it better?  No, they buy what will last...  lol, even though the HiLux has a lower tow rating?  Yup!  They sure do! ;)  Because it will do so, again and again and again, pretty much forever!

Ok, I go on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, I get so distracted when I type big ones. lmao.</p>
<p>Where is was meaning to go with the comments about passion for the vehicle etc.  A LOT of people start with the passionate car, that maybe mum or dad drive when they were kids.  Love the Falcon or Commie, do it up (Mine had a sick stereo. lol)  but then down the track people get smarter&#8230;</p>
<p>Toyota is a SMART purchase, a Reliable, Durable vehicle that holds value and is relatively easy to repair and usually does not break down.  </p>
<p>This is stats, not opinion&#8230;  Why do you think Toyota DO sell SOOOO many of them?  It&#8217;s not for the go fast factor, not for the styling factor, not for the price factor (being most Toyota&#8217;s actually cost more than the competition.) its purely because people GET WHAT THEY PAY FOR!  A vehicle that gets you where you need to go.  Isn&#8217;t a complete slug, and usually pretty comfortable.  and will continue to do so day in, day out for quite some time.</p>
<p>Look at the millions of HiLux sales&#8230;  general rule HiLux costs 1,500 &#8211; 5000 more than its closest competitor depenign on grade level&#8230;  Yet it does so&#8230;  You think tradies are going to go and buy something that is essential to their working life, because it looks pretty, goes fast and they like it better?  No, they buy what will last&#8230;  lol, even though the HiLux has a lower tow rating?  Yup!  They sure do! ;)  Because it will do so, again and again and again, pretty much forever!</p>
<p>Ok, I go on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morgasshk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgasshk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh god these blogs are insane...

This was meant to be comment on the review?  lol, not a bash on whois the biggest, bestest whatever.

Toyota guys, seriously, you KNOW the figures are right, it&#039;s out there for ANYONE to see.  Toyota is the top automobile company in the world, and dominates Australia and has done for 13 of the past 17 years...

Aurion was released 2 years ago, already has 20% of its market and consistently outsells Falcon in QLD.  (Surprising stats about last month Falcon outselling 2 to 1, will check that out.)

The only vehicles I have owned have been commodores, 4 of them.  I no longer like holden and will not buy another, except maybe a good priced SLR5000....  

No one saw Toyota coming up from behind and whalloping the big guns of Ford and GM...  but they have done so..

Commodore still smashes everyhitng else in its market with solid 40-50% market share for large cars.  

For whoever made a comment about Japanese made, the Aurion is made in Austrlia and due to Toyota&#039;s Local Production Mandate is over 70% Australian content...   This is the same for Camry also, which, as engine is made here also, is about 75% Australian...

Falcon and Commodore currently sit approx 65% Australian content...  The Aurion and Camry are technically more australian than the Commie and Falcon...  Don&#039;t argue with me about it, I have no stake in this. lol, look it up!  It surprised the bejesus out of me when I first heard it...  :S

Loved my Commodores for years, had millions of problems with them, fuel use, fuel pumps, diffs, gearboxes, panel fit, clutch, brakes, coil packs, coil, wiring, etc etc etc...  and never batted an eye...  Literally would cost between 400 and 1000 extra each time got the VR, VX or VY serviced, and just expected it...

Now over the past 2 years have driven Prius, Kluger, Land Cruiser 200 and aurion, and no problems... Seriously, NONE.  

Toyota is NOT a heart stopping company, their vehicles do not make you have unbelievable passion that a lot of buyers feel for Falcon and Commodore, I know I did, for many years...  Nothing could get me to touch anything else...  The basic V6 made you feel invincible, the V8&#039;s would make you wet your pants, and you LOVED driving, provided you had RACQ coverage...  ;)

Thing is, that now Toyota has disbanded so many loved models and good vehicles, they are only known for HiLux, Land Cruiser and Camry... :S  pretty much...

Whereas, peope forget MR2, Celica, Supra, and beofre Lexus the Soarer etc...

I remember many many many friends modifying Commie and putting in Celica and Supra 5 speed boxes in.  Anytime someone wanted the strongest diff available, what&#039;d they use?  Yes, some a ford 9 inch (i used a 10 bolt Salisbury, TOUGH!) but HEAPS would go the modified HiLux diff and tailshaft...

Good work on the new car to the guys at Falcon, hope it gives them the needed sales to bring thing back to a good pitch in Australia.  No more jobs going begging would be good! Profitable companies are much better!

If you are going to baqg me out, please make sure you have read my entire post. ;)   lol

Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god these blogs are insane&#8230;</p>
<p>This was meant to be comment on the review?  lol, not a bash on whois the biggest, bestest whatever.</p>
<p>Toyota guys, seriously, you KNOW the figures are right, it&#8217;s out there for ANYONE to see.  Toyota is the top automobile company in the world, and dominates Australia and has done for 13 of the past 17 years&#8230;</p>
<p>Aurion was released 2 years ago, already has 20% of its market and consistently outsells Falcon in QLD.  (Surprising stats about last month Falcon outselling 2 to 1, will check that out.)</p>
<p>The only vehicles I have owned have been commodores, 4 of them.  I no longer like holden and will not buy another, except maybe a good priced SLR5000&#8230;.  </p>
<p>No one saw Toyota coming up from behind and whalloping the big guns of Ford and GM&#8230;  but they have done so..</p>
<p>Commodore still smashes everyhitng else in its market with solid 40-50% market share for large cars.  </p>
<p>For whoever made a comment about Japanese made, the Aurion is made in Austrlia and due to Toyota&#8217;s Local Production Mandate is over 70% Australian content&#8230;   This is the same for Camry also, which, as engine is made here also, is about 75% Australian&#8230;</p>
<p>Falcon and Commodore currently sit approx 65% Australian content&#8230;  The Aurion and Camry are technically more australian than the Commie and Falcon&#8230;  Don&#8217;t argue with me about it, I have no stake in this. lol, look it up!  It surprised the bejesus out of me when I first heard it&#8230;  :S</p>
<p>Loved my Commodores for years, had millions of problems with them, fuel use, fuel pumps, diffs, gearboxes, panel fit, clutch, brakes, coil packs, coil, wiring, etc etc etc&#8230;  and never batted an eye&#8230;  Literally would cost between 400 and 1000 extra each time got the VR, VX or VY serviced, and just expected it&#8230;</p>
<p>Now over the past 2 years have driven Prius, Kluger, Land Cruiser 200 and aurion, and no problems&#8230; Seriously, NONE.  </p>
<p>Toyota is NOT a heart stopping company, their vehicles do not make you have unbelievable passion that a lot of buyers feel for Falcon and Commodore, I know I did, for many years&#8230;  Nothing could get me to touch anything else&#8230;  The basic V6 made you feel invincible, the V8&#8217;s would make you wet your pants, and you LOVED driving, provided you had RACQ coverage&#8230;  ;)</p>
<p>Thing is, that now Toyota has disbanded so many loved models and good vehicles, they are only known for HiLux, Land Cruiser and Camry&#8230; :S  pretty much&#8230;</p>
<p>Whereas, peope forget MR2, Celica, Supra, and beofre Lexus the Soarer etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I remember many many many friends modifying Commie and putting in Celica and Supra 5 speed boxes in.  Anytime someone wanted the strongest diff available, what&#8217;d they use?  Yes, some a ford 9 inch (i used a 10 bolt Salisbury, TOUGH!) but HEAPS would go the modified HiLux diff and tailshaft&#8230;</p>
<p>Good work on the new car to the guys at Falcon, hope it gives them the needed sales to bring thing back to a good pitch in Australia.  No more jobs going begging would be good! Profitable companies are much better!</p>
<p>If you are going to baqg me out, please make sure you have read my entire post. ;)   lol</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Adam (aka Mada)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam (aka Mada)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP...

One simple question for you...

Prove the current camry/aurion are 100% new???

They aren&#039;t, no vehicle ever is 100% new when released.

Wake up and learn how the auto industry works, tired of the keyboard experts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP&#8230;</p>
<p>One simple question for you&#8230;</p>
<p>Prove the current camry/aurion are 100% new???</p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t, no vehicle ever is 100% new when released.</p>
<p>Wake up and learn how the auto industry works, tired of the keyboard experts.</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millatime and Mike - Ok you don&#039;t like FWD eh,see you&#039;d rather drift round Mels grid sideway. Just cos a car is FWD don&#039;t mean its a duffun. The vast majority of people prefer the safer route for daily driving. IMO 4wd the way to go....a la Quattro.
No i&#039;m not a Toyota or Hondaphile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millatime and Mike &#8211; Ok you don&#8217;t like FWD eh,see you&#8217;d rather drift round Mels grid sideway. Just cos a car is FWD don&#8217;t mean its a duffun. The vast majority of people prefer the safer route for daily driving. IMO 4wd the way to go&#8230;.a la Quattro.<br />
No i&#8217;m not a Toyota or Hondaphile</p>
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		<title>By: No Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas 79 you said &quot;Also I believe the Falcon would be just too wide for the fairly narrow roads in europe!! &quot;

You&#039;re a t1t aren&#039;t you old man. The Mondeo is actually wider than the Falcon 1886mm v 1868mm (wing mirrors excluded). 
Large serving of humble pie with added clotted cream coming your way. Hows yer cred feel now...Old n wrinkly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas 79 you said &#8220;Also I believe the Falcon would be just too wide for the fairly narrow roads in europe!! &#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a t1t aren&#8217;t you old man. The Mondeo is actually wider than the Falcon 1886mm v 1868mm (wing mirrors excluded).<br />
Large serving of humble pie with added clotted cream coming your way. Hows yer cred feel now&#8230;Old n wrinkly</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only two cars here worth considering are the ford and holden.
Both the Toyota and Honda are potentially great cars
however they are both let down by being front wheel drives
Saving a few thousand dollars by making it front wheel drive instantly makes the car useless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only two cars here worth considering are the ford and holden.<br />
Both the Toyota and Honda are potentially great cars<br />
however they are both let down by being front wheel drives<br />
Saving a few thousand dollars by making it front wheel drive instantly makes the car useless</p>
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		<title>By: The Axe</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Ezz.
All makes have issues, and Toyota is not immune it.
The rubbish from the TOYOTA FANBOYS here does sound like they are the work of Toyota marketing as the obsession shown requires help..
There is no way Toyota is a leader. They are a follower in many cases. EG: No ESP in Corolla, no ESP in Camry until well into its model cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Ezz.<br />
All makes have issues, and Toyota is not immune it.<br />
The rubbish from the TOYOTA FANBOYS here does sound like they are the work of Toyota marketing as the obsession shown requires help..<br />
There is no way Toyota is a leader. They are a follower in many cases. EG: No ESP in Corolla, no ESP in Camry until well into its model cycle.</p>
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