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2005 Jeep Cherokee Renegade Warranty Complaint

By Alborz Fallah |

When we first started the Warranty Complaints section, we thought it would be a great idea to list as many warranty complaints as we get sent, to give buyers warnings and some idea of the problems experienced with different makes and models as well as dealers, but so far, we’ve had well over 100 complaints… with the majority regarding Jeeps!

Most users don’t want the information posted (as it may affect their warranty proceedings), however there are a few brave souls who have had enough. One of them is who is letting the world know is Gilda C. from Glendenning NSW.

Her story follows:


In March 2005, we purchased a Jeep Cherokee Renegade. We went through our first service on the 26/10/2005 and I paid $370.00.Unfortunately we did not test drive the car believing that it is a good and reliable car with a good reputation given its status as a Jeep Cherokee.

One day when I reached work I noticed a set of red words and numbers on the dashboard of the car saying type 42, I rang the service department at the Jeep dealer and they came and they found out that the tyre is flat, and I asked what this means and he said that it will just go away it is nothing.

Then the first recall come, E14 recall that was on 13/01/2006.

24,000KM service date 30/06/2006

Not even a month there is another problem, july 2006 we are hearing noises when braking so we call the service department again and tell them what we notice on the car and they told as to bring the car in. So we went and they check the car and we were told to come back when the parts arrive.

Couple of weeks later they ring us saying that the parts have just arrive so we had an arrangement what day and time to go to the service,they even sent us a message about the appointment, so we went but we were told that the parts are not available. I was so upset but I had no choice but to wait again.

I told them that every time we had an appointment with them we have to take a day off work .They said it is just a miscommunication.

So they called us again and said that the parts are available but the exact same thing happened again, there were no parts and this time I was really upset and told them why they keep on calling us to come here when there are no parts available, that time I asked for the manager and asked him for an explanation, he said the same thing, miscommunication.

Finally parts arrive 18/09/2006,they change the pads,rear disc -KJ and CLIP ANTI RATTL.

two weeks later they call us again for another racall it is about the lower ball joint to be replace, 02/10/2006.

January this year (2007) another problem came out and now it is the brake,every time you brake in 80KM/H the steering wheel is shaking so we call again.

date 25/01/2007 another recall for the brakes.
Im now scared of the car as it has had so many recalls, a brand new car, a JEEP with the reputation of a good car and the people in the dealership are so rude to us, I just cant beilived this is happening to us.

thank you for reading my letter and we just hope for your help to rectify this problem.
Kind Regards,

GILDA C.


The continues reports of Jeep problems have given all of us a big grave warning to stay as far away from Jeep as possible.

For those of you who read the site regularly, you should note the recent Reliability Survey conducted in the UK which found Jeep as the WORSE VEHICLE brand in terms of reliability with 46% of all buyers having to go back for warranty complaints!


 
  • Rachel Perrett

    Thanks, I have now decided not to buy a Jeep!!!!

  • FATEN AKEL

    dear sir

    actually i bought three month before prado2005 used car
    i live in Qatar, it was imported from Kuwait , and i have problem with the thermostat heater some time itis working and other time not working,so i try to ask the agent in Qatar (abdelgani)for service,but they ask me to pay them 1500$ to open the file only and then they will start service,is this the strategy of Toyota cars service and do you have any advice for me ,remeber when i bought it i was confident of toyota service
    thank you
    faten akel
    head of purchasing of sport hospital

  • Andrew Wilmot

    The Type 42 ‘error’ the lady with the Jeep complained about isn’t an error at all. Its a part stamp that glows when the sun shines on it at the correct angle – making it light up. Only a fool would think this is a warning on the dash. Sure the Jeep has had some warranty recall work, but at least the recalls have fixed the problems on those few that actually exhibited the problems associated with the recall. Otherwise they are reliable cars.

    • Jack

      Try this one Andrew:
      At Jeep it’s $720 for the assembly (actuator) plus $180 labour for a part that locks down when it fails.
      My tailgate lock actuator on KJ 2004 Cherokee Renegade 3.7L (first on road ’05) failed 6 months out of warranty & six months after i bought it.
      To Chris – maybe your guys at Mt.Gravatt or Albion would advise you how they get the tailgate open and you could help me.I could even drive there.
      It appears the actuator locks down in a “childsafe” type of function.I need to see an actuator or find a dash switch which reverses the “lockdown”.
      The finest mechanics can’t open the tailgate,even though it has a doorhandle and accessible latch.
      You can’t work the lock open after even 3 hours of labour or even remove the actuator – so you can’t disable it without seeing how it functions.Jeep have got you.
      But somehow Jeep know how to open the tailgate for the $900 fix.
      Can anybody help me??

  • chris

    at least Jeep are proactive and issue recalls. they could wait untill it fell apart. they identify the problem and fix it, unlike some

  • Craig OBrien

    I have to agree with comments about “TYPE 42 ” error, i have seen this myself in our Jeep but i quickly worked out about the sun on the right angle will make it appear, I also feel yes at least they a pro-active in fixing these problems rather than let the thing fall apart but something has to be raised about the quality of a vehicle that requires so many recalls, we have a 2006 cherokee and i am sick off the recalls and the amount too,but lets thank them for it, as there are Australian car manufacturers i wont name that simply dont even advise their customers of a problem rather just hope their service departments can get them all as they come in for service, friends of mine were’nt so lucky and a motor replacement was the problem with this particular model(not a JEEP) and they missed the boat, a very expensive exersise.
    I also have issues with our 06 Jeep in the brakes and beware anyone that thinks they wont have to spend about $2000 every year to maintain the brakes on a jeep simply based on the quality and wrong suitability for our driving conditions here in australia, Chryslers responce is to say “i should expect it” with a car that weighs almost 2 tonnes.And i should feel lucky that at 26000 klms i have done well as most they see dont even last that long, and we are talking pad and rotors completly worn out,warped and bad shaking thru the steering wheel under brakes. Not good enough Chrylser, i wont be buying another one, its the first Brand New car i have ever been able to purchase and its leaving a very bitter taste in MY mouth.Anyone else got the same trouble and want to contact Chrylser, i would appreciate the help in getting them to not only fix my problem but everyone elses brake too because i cant be the only person with this issue.

  • ctsj

    I HAve a meeting with Chrysler this week to discuss brake issues, WOULD ANYONE ELSE WITH SIMILAR BRAKE ISSUES LIKE TO POST THEM HERE SO I MY PRINT THEM TO PROVE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE.(name not necessary) The story above from Gilda.C is excactly the same way our story has unfolded on a car a year newer than hers. Pretty sad that we cant even get 25000 KLM from a set of rotors and pads. anyone else with a car done less than 20000klm/12 mth s make sure you have them replaced under warranty befoer that period expires because it will cost you almost $2000 to do so after that, then you will have to do it every year or so depending on the k’s you travel.
    Thanks

    • dennis

      Change to slotted rotors and it solves the problem. I spent 100,000km with vibration under braking and now the problem has gone away with the slotted rotors.

  • ctsj

    meeting with chrysler failed dismully, now have car with engine knock, destroyed brakes, faulty right mirror (wobbly) and seats that mark from pure water, that they just wont fix and will wipe remaining 2 yrs of warranty if i fit after market parts or not done by “authourised Jeep repairer”, to add insult to injury we find out the car we bought new as a 2/06 model ia actually an 11/04 model,(the new laws replace the existing ones for import new cars and they now have to go by the build date not compliance date when you trade your car in,as they cant market the car by compliance ONLY build date) so PLEASE if you plan to buy a new JEEP or Chyrsler or Dodge vehicle, check the BUILD date of the car you intend to purchase BEFORE you agree to buy it, and you may want to ask for the tyres to be changed to a suitable compound to your driving needs (I.e if you intend to drive mainly in mud or snow the new tyres they put on them will do, but if you intend to do mainly bitumen driving you will need to change them and the same for dirt/bitumen combination)
    Also ask before you buy about longevity of brake components e.g. pads & rotors, and I bet you will be told far more than the 20000 klms most are getting(and thats if you baby it), they are not cheap to replace either. Front alone Approx $700 in parts (about the same for the rear parts)without any labour and they are only good for the same driving distance as the originals.
    Do yourself a favour, DO NOT BUY ONE: there are plenty of other good options available in this price bracket and with chassis and transfer case.
    Chryslers attitude to fixing any of my problems was to have an excuse for every question and issue about the quality of their vehicle and parts and to blame us as heavy or incorrectly driving the vehicle for any longevity of these parts.
    OVERALL far too expensive to maintian and service and you will battle them with most warranty issues.

  • Bavarian Missile /

    Mate I feel for you,have you gone to the top of the food chain at Chrysler ? What have you threatned them with? How many posts have you made on sites in Australia or the world ? Makes as much noise as possible !!! Attend as many Chrysler functions as possible and mention the many issues you have had,let Chrysler know your not giving up !!!! Get as much info from others that have also had the same problems. Threaten to go to current Affair programs, works too! I know it takes time and hours out of your life to do it but do it !!!Keep us posted !!

  • ctsj

    yep done all that, it just does not seem to phase them, i have had some contact with the federal minister for transport and am hoping to get some info if nothing else about the Aust, standards and ADR’s if nothing else, getting some of these current affair shows to air such a story is also hard, so i was hoping to just raise as much awareness via the internet as possible, but i am just not a wizard at that and am hoping to get some kind of help with that soon.
    I cant say too much on here (a public forum) just yet as too some of the things i have been able to find out and where i am taking this & how far, but i can tell you its not over yet, and any help anyone else can offer in regard to raising awareness of the Chrysler Brand or anyone that has any info on ADR’s etc would be appreciated.
    the top of the food chain with Chrysler seems to be a mythical person, but i just have to wait a few more weeks for a particular person to re-contact me with more inside info on that.
    Thanks for your thoughts too Bavarian Missle, appreciate it, i am actually quite dissapointed in the brand and the way they deal with these matters, they just lost a long term customer as we were planning to buy a 300C soon, but they are just staring to show some problems too, A whole other story there.

  • Jon

    Hi Cjts,
    Not sure I can help out. How about emailing me and we can see what we can do.

    I just bought a 2007 kj diesel so its in my interest to follow this up.

    Front brakes do seem to be wearing as mentioned in this discussion.
    regards
    jon

  • Matt

    Hi Cjts and Jon,

    My 12/05 Renegade just went in for 30000km service today and i received a call from the dealer to tell me brakes worn below spec, i said go ahead and replace cost me over $1000.

    I do believe having to replace rotors at 30000 is a joke, looked in warranty book when I got home and rotors covered only up to 20000.

    Not happy at all would like to pursue the matter

    Regards

    Matt

  • jon

    Hi again,

    Re the brake rotors on the front, they are wearing ie noticable after 6000 k’s.

    Some years back on my ford falcon I had issues from time to time with the rotors becoming seperated on a couple of joins causing vibration under braking.

    At that time I decided to simply replace the rotors every couple of years anyway. Cost wise it was not much worse than putting them in to get skimmed.

    I was talking to a KJ 2005 owner the other day and they had the same problem after almost a couple of years and still under warranty. The rotors were replaced free and under warranty, but not after trying the skimming first of course. I guess rotors splitting is different to wearing somehow.

    I believe good replacement rotors are going to solve the issues with having been supplied inferior rotors with the vehicle in the first place.

    On Ausiejeep.com they talk about RDA rotors and others that are much better wearing.

    I know things like this are an annoyance but somehow I like to idea of having some control over the bits I put on the KJ, it is fun to drive and with the predator in it she really goes.

    I read the other evening that there is a DOTAR out early 2007 here in Australia some ABS reprogramming, something to do with abs activation incorrectly under certain conditions.

    Another issue, after about 3500 k’s, she does get the jerks from time to time, something that was said to be fixed, I think its the EGR but will get them to check it out. Really Id like them to program the EGR out of operation, its a dumb idea and I read new diesels from CAT and cummings dont have them.

    Jon

  • gilda cruz

    Hi ctsj,matt,&jon,
    I think we have the same problem.
    every time I used my brake the steering wheel shakes
    and I was told becuse of the rain the water gets in to the brake and because im using the jeep in short distance I used too much brakes .
    I dont know who to talk to and I wanted to file a complaint.
    please help
    gilda

    • dennis

      get slotted rotors. it will stop the vibration. see my post above. trust me on this. slotted rotors are only slightly more expensive but worth every cent. and, never take the car to chrysler for a service as its a rip off. I take mine to Ultra tune and now have over 220,000km on a 2006 model jeep cherokee without any issues with the car

  • jon

    Hello Gilda,

    A couple of things to get checked on your brakes.

    Im not sure which year your vehicle is or its mileage, but I do know that early 2007 in Australia the transport bureau issued a DOTAR for chrysler to check and fix an ABS locking problem I believe its a Software issue, not sure.

    Secondly re the steering wheel shudder, generally on all vehicles the shudder comes from bearing runout which is probably unlikely if you are relatively low kilometres and driving on sealed roads mostly. The other Issue I mention is the the front rotors which are 2 plates joined together with the fins. Its not always easy to spot but the welds in the fins down the centre of the rotor crack when they get hot/cold. Quite often I have had brake specialists not even pick up the problem.

    When you start out driving and braking the rotors are cool so they are pretty much the proper shape, when you get going and brake hard for a while the rotors get real hot, very hot I notice on the Jeep. This causes the rotor to distort and cause a shudder to be experienced.

    On a ford I had it almost shook the front of the car off track when braking moderately hard from about 100 kilometres.

    Gilda, if your shudder gets worse through the course of a trip then I would suspect that the craking in the rotor is the problem, As I said in a previous message I have met a kj owner with this problem and once diagnosed the Warranty replacement of the rotors did happen.

    Good luck with this, you might have to highlight with brake specialists or dealership that you consider that this may be the problem.

    When my rotors go I will not be replacing them with the standard rotors I think.

    My KJ is a 2007 model, hmmmm, if thats possible. More likely a 2006 model, I had a couple of little funnies which I think are mainly software, took it in and although they said all software revisions were ok and they didnt do anything, the CRD KJ is running really sweet after the visit.

    Let us know how you go Gilda.

  • jon

    Hello Ctjs,

    I was wondering how you are going with your issues?

  • jon

    Hello Gilda again,

    There is one other possibility with your front rotors and shudder problem I forgot to mention with my previous large entry, that is, I have read that there is a recommended wheel nut tension for the studs on the jeep, although I have not encountered this on any vehicle in the past 30 years it has been suggested that due to the type of metal used on the KJ Jeep rotors, ie it being a little soft that incorrect stud tightening can also distort the rotors.

    Not sure if its actually true, however, if the shudder started after a wheel/tyre change/rotation then just maybe its something else to think about.

    Regards
    Jon

  • qwerty99

    Oh Dear,

    I have just purchased a 2007 Cherokee Sport, reading all of the above I wish I had not.. already had problems with drivers side mirror vibrating.. Dealer says nothing wrong.. I take it that I am heading for the brake problems too.

    The paint quality is also bad in some cases inside the doors paint looks like it has been hand sprayed with a can.. Have spoken to Jeep Customer Services still awaiting call back…

    Tempted to sell and get something else even though I might loose $ 8 – $10k…

  • John Crocombe

    With regard to the comments:

    ************************************************
    jon Says:
    November 22nd, 2007 at 2:25 am
    Hi again,

    Re the brake rotors on the front, they are wearing ie noticable after 6000 k’s.
    ~~
    On Ausiejeep.com they talk about RDA rotors and others that are much better wearing.
    ************************************************

    can anyone tell me what the real web address is for the “Ausiejeep.com” site, please?

  • jon

    Hello John,

    You might like to try http://www.aussiejeepoffroad.com.au, lots of good info there.

    Hi Qwerty99, how are you going with your Jeep, are you having fun yet?

    cheers
    Jon

  • Qwerty99

    Hi Jon,

    Due to Christmas / New Year etc Customer Services called and said will meet the regional manager at the dealership to look at paint issues. I have not had chance to look at other Cherokees but do most have bad paint inside doors and on plastic wheel arch covers? the paint has the appearance of being badly sprayed..

    Once the issues have been resolved will hopefully start enjoying the car..

  • dan77

    Hi,
    I recently purchased a Jeep Cherokee Renegade, 3.7L. It has done 25,000kms and is an 05 model. The warrenty runs out on the in March and was wonting to get everything checked while still under warrenty… I have not noticed any shaking in the steering wheel at any speed, and i dont know what warn brake pads look like compared to normal.

    I would appriacted any ideas or comments on this car, i didnt read this forum before buying and am starting to regret it.

    Cheers,
    Dan

  • David4214

    Hi all,

    At least now I don’t feel like the only one with a dud jeep kj cherokee. (you’ll notice no caps on the name of the car, I wouldn’t dignify cherokee with capital letters, the car’s nickname is “JUNK” and it is the family joke: “what went wrong with the jeep this week”) JUNK is a MY05 KJ Limited Diesel 2.7CRD purchased in 06/05

    Here is the latest list of problems

    1. rear tailgate squeaked since new. Dealer attempted repair three times. Finally “fixed” except it made the door so hard to open it needed both hands and a pull so hard it nearly dislocated my shoulder. Now I can open the door normally again…but it squeaks.
    2. Now on its third battery after original and second batteries suffered “complete catastrophic failure” (dealers words)
    3. Blew a turbo hose during a 600km interstate trip (at about 40,000km
    4. Wing mirrors loose and wiggly
    5. Permanently blows smoke under load, even after service.
    6. quickly overheats when going up hills, on sand, on dirt, when towing. On (hard) sand, we found we could get the needle down to the 3/4 mark by turning off the aircon which is really great in a 35 degree queensland summers day.
    7. Spent 2000km in second gear whilst stuck in second gear during a recent trip to Goondiwindi, Bourke, Cunumulla, Charleville, Chinchilla. Maximum speed had to be limited to 90km/h to keep engine revs below 2000rp/m. This problem has been attempted to be fixed four times by the dealer after being variously told by them it was (a) a loose wire (b) mud (c) electrical problem (d) valve housing something or other that had to be flown in from germany and that I should disconnect the battery and wait 1/2 an hour and it would fix itself.
    This problem seems to be fixed for the time being.
    8. just yeterday morning the hadbrake and abs lights stayed on for a ten minute drive but went off later after switching off the engine for 5 mins.
    9. Driving from Bourke to Cunumulla, we rang Mondial Roadside assist on the advice of the dealer and were told that if the car broke down then and there we would be towed to Dubbo. Dubbo was about 600 km’s south of us and about 1000km’s south of our destination. No mention of what our trailer, my wife or our two dogs were supposed to do in Dubbo.

    I am currently in discussions with Jeep about some sort of extension to the warranty, but believe me I’ll never buy another Jeep again. I’ve had three fantastic Patrol’s with nary a squeek and rue the day I ever set foot in a Jeep dealership.

    Good Luck

  • jon

    Hi Qwerty99,

    How are you going with the paint issues, Ill agree mine is a little rough in hidden places.

    The finish underside is not good but is better now that I got under there and fixed it myself.

    Front brake rotors still wearing but does seem to have slowed down. I noticed on a Mercedes sports car the other the exact same issue that we notice on the KJ front rotors, and the merc was only a little 1.8 litre jobbie.

    So on my 2.8l CRD cherokee i have 12,500 klms in nearly 6 months, have decided she absolutely hates BP diesel and most standard diesel fuels except the GULL BIOD, purs like a kitten on this stuff and doesnt blow anywhere as much smoke. I decided to try the BIOD because the car is shipped from the US with B5 in the tank and BIOD is B20.

    Apparently it keeps the sensors (boost sensor) another bits clean. The result Jerks and funny function almost entirely gone, i notice no difference in power or consumption. The last remaining twitch is only sometimes there after a really hard acceleration, its like when you back off the computers are trying to work out whether or not to engage the lock up in the gear box, its only slight and occasional now though.

    Anyway the CRD is in for a late 10,000k service in a week so lets see what the dealers come up with.

    On the body of the car there are no loose bits or anything like that but the sun roof rubber needs replacing as its not sealing quite right, leaks air, also leaking a bit of air around those crazy little rubber window seperators on the back doors.

    Apart from that shes mostly good. Great fun up and down the beaches north of perth (green head) and is towing beautifully.

    I hope all the other issues others are experiencing can be fixed. It really would nice if DC took the bull by the horns and just fixed all the issues people mention, they are really doing themselves a tremendous disservice letting the dealers fob the customers off. Sort of reminds me when Chrysler went south in the 80′s when Mitsubishi came into the picture.

    Kind Regards
    Jon

  • qwerty99

    Well,

    With little over 2200k’s I have traded it in for a new Toyota Rav4. I know the Rav4 is not as capable as the Cherokee but the build quality issues and the auto starting to jump left me with no confidence. So far the Toyota has been fault less and not one squeak. I wish you all the best of luck,

  • PO02LE

    hmm…not happy about finding this site! Every car I’d owned prior to my 2006 model Cherokee KJ was a complete Lemon which cost thousands in repairs (nothing ever ever EVER designed will be as bad as a Landrover Freelander!)-so at last I forked out CASH and bought a brand new KJ (well, ex-demo with 240km)-not without spending hours doing research on faults and whinges posted on the Net and at the time NOTHING was reported negative about KJ’s.

    I have in the past week spoken to 4 Jeep owners, 3 owners of Diesel KJ’s-NONE have had ANY problems. MINE however has been to Scuderia so many times they know my voice as soon as I say hello on the phone!

    Two problems keep recurring and I would definitely like to hear from others if they’ve had these problems because no doubt it can save the dealership a lot of trouble if we can simply pinpoint what the fault is-I’m sick of bothering them and feel bad when I do (mainly cos they always wash my car!!) and I’m sick of having to borrow my dad’s spare bomb when the car’s at Jeep.

    problem i)
    since early days the car has this fault where just out of the blue, seemingly only on holiday and important trips, it starts to slow and lose power as if it’s running out of fuel…and slowly slows and stops/konks out, and wont start. IF however this occurs and you just stop, turn off the engine and restart it, it resets the computer and away you go for another 6 months or so until it does it out of the blue again. After a “software upgrade” the problem went away for almost 12 months…..now it’s back again.

    ii) Turbo hoses-f’g inconvenient when it blows because the car needs to be towed! I’ve had 2 hoses go in 12 months and when they go they really shit themselves.

    I can’t imagine why a car would do this? anyone know what causes it? shitty cheap hoses? can it do damage to the car as a result? (it sure doesn’t run too well without the hose!!).

    NOTE: Yorke Motors are DODGY!! – the car got towed there and I mentioned a rattle, the traditional diesel “niggernigger” noise was really loud and sounded funny. They decided it was low on oil-I said that’s ridiculous it’s a new car and shouldn’t need oil. They gave the car back, serviced ($900!) and said yes the oil was low but they replaced the filter etc etc. Well how come when I got home the dipstick was black??!! Female I may be, stupid I’m not!
    Oh yeh-they also told me the discs needed machining and new brakes-the car had only just 16 weeks prior had brakes fitted and the discs machined-when I then got new tyres a couple of weeks later, I made the guys take off the rear covers so we could inspect all discs-they were as smooth as a babies bum!! They did NOT need machining at all.I shan’t be going to Yorke motors ever again!

    brakes: rotors-mine went through them quickly too but I drive like a loony and do a lot of km’s and holidays are usually to the Outback, have only just begun to notice some shudder in recent weeks, since replacing and machining the brakes-prior to that there was none. Was surprised that they needed machining so soon.

    The car has always blown a bit of smoke at times. Also have a recent problem of the car shutting down a cylinder and thus LOUSY fuel economy…this has happened twice and this time, 2nd in 2 months, I’ve decided the car’s a Lemon I want the car replaced! or something MAJOR

    On a positive note the staff at Scuderia, Chatswood, are brilliant-never the slightest indication they don’t want to hear from me and when the nigger-nigger noise was apparent to them, they pulled the car to pieces, eager to create a happy cusomer-was all their idea and their cost, they always clean the car beautifully,car always needs to go back again for yet another porblem but it all seems to be weird electrical faults so at this point I’m sure they are pretty good-it’s the car that’s the problem!

    I’ve owned the car for 20 months-it’s about to go to Jeep for it’s 9th visit (incl 2 nominated services). On average that’s a visit with a problem every 2.8 months since purchase. This car I can’t believe will be reliable for me to feel assured it can do what I intended it to ie; go around Australia, or even halfway….10% of the way maybe?????????????????
    I want what I thought I was paying for – a RELIABLE car-not this one!!
    feedback anyone???

  • rock

    Dear po02le,when a oil change is carried out on diesel engine the oil turns black instantly when started.Im not going to go into reasons why,i think you should do some research. Stupid? (maybe)

  • http://Wrangler Wrangler

    Hello all!

    Getting really worried vhen reading about your problems! I have a great wrangler 4.0 litres with manual gearbox, the idea is to buy a crd cherokee with aut.gears, but now you have made me worried..

  • lindeelu

    I have a 2007 cherokee sport and inside the space of a week
    both the drivers and right rear passenger windows have fell
    inside the doors.
    The car has only done 7000km and has never been off the bitumen, only used as a shopping trolley.

    Anyone else had this happen, or is mine a one off?

  • Lisa

    I AGREE~bought my lovely new 2006 jeep, at a 2006 price mind you and now have found out it is a 2004, and will only trade as a 2004, effectively wiping out thousands. I took this all the way to the top, speaking with Bob Muller, head of Chrysler Australia, on the phone. His very helpful comment “learn to read a contract, sweetheart.” I was stunned. Took it to consumer trading, a current affair, everywhere, but because the small print stated the build date, I do not have a leg to stand on.

    As for the brakes, no problems there, but I do go through a set of tyres every 20,000kms. These are not cheap tyres either, the last pair were Pirellis, and I have had them replaced with Toyo’s for another $1200 so hopefully they will last until I can finally unload my expensive mistake.

    FYI – Fuel consumption 19lt/100km Tested by Jeep, all fine

    Tyres $1200 per year

    Last Service $1100 – in which they changed fluids and not much else…

    Not owning a Jeep Cherokee – PRICELESS!

  • PO02LE

    Here I am again folks, a year and a bit later…I still unbelievably stupidly own my KJ Cherokee…and what a year and a bit it has been.

    Tomorrow is the cars final day of warranty!! – it is also the SIXTH business day that it will have spent, consecutively, sitting in a jeep workshop being pulled to pieces to try and establish what the @@#$% is wrong with it this time.

    It spent 6 WEEKS off the road over the Christmas period. It dropped its clutch day before Christmas…the clutch kit had to be ordered from Singapore-that took 3 weeks. When it arrived, it was installed, only to discover the car sounded dreadful-reason being the INCORRECT part number had been ordered and installed, so it all had to come apart again.Luckily this time though another dealer had the required part so it didn’t have to come from Singapore. When the car was reassembled, it was even worse-jeep themselves nominated to then dissassemble the whole transmission….they found some damaged parts and reassembled it-to find the car was even worse! So the transmission came out again, but before pulling it to bits they took a 2nd look at the clutch assembly and decided it was the flywheel that had caused the whole drama-this seemed to fix things! By 6 weeks I was beside myself-my car is my office, the inconvenience and stress resulting was just too much.

    2 months later the car was off the road again-and needed 2 injectors replaced. The car was stuffed around with for 2-3 days whilst they tried to assess the real problem.

    2 months later -it started playing up-yet another seemingly fuel related problem (or lack of rather!)-my apologies to all those stuck behind my car doing 40kph crossing the harbour bridge 3 weeks ago! I was told the car needed after 2 days of stuffing around with it, a new fuel solenoid-you guessed it, from Singapore! That arrived fairly quickly but after installation, the car was 10 times worse. So another 3 days of pulling it to bits-all the injectors have been removed, they’ve tested just EVERYTHING and just can’t figure out what the f’g problem is. Tomrrow it will have its’ computer tested -if it needs a new one, that’ll have to come from Singapore….and you’ll all be invited to my funeral because that’s about where I am at with this f’g lemon!

    IF ANYBODY KNOWS HOW ONE GOES ABOUT SEEKING TO HAVE THE CAR REPLACED/REFUNDED…. please let me know pronto!
    If you know any legal folk who have handled such cases before I would like their contact details please.

    Thanks!!
    oh-and no the problem is not the oil!!!!!! (ignorant little so and so!)

  • kjjeep

    Have had my KJ 2005 (MY) for close to two years and I love it. Yes it was obvious the rotors are to soft and subject to warping with extreme temp changes like blasting through a deep puddle after heavy breaking. Had them machined several times and decided to replace both front and rear rotors and pads from ABS in Sydney. They have been fantastic. No shudder and excellent braking control. Just returned from a trip to Uluru and travelled over 6844km with an issue (mostly dirt and hard tracks).
    Most of the complaints I read here could be cataloged under “bad dealer service”. I purchased and service my Jeep at Tynans in Sydney and they are fantastic.

  • Chris

    I am (or was) looking at buying a Jeep for my wife and have already been to 3 different dealers for a test drive – I can’t help but notice that it seems a bit like a bumpy ride, she will most likely be driving in on tar 90% of the time but what about the odd trip here and there to the beach and farm…?

    I am VERY glad I found this site, it has been a real eye opener, needless to say that I will rather opt for the RAV4.

    Good luck to all the JEEP owners out there.

  • Moira Buller

    we have a 2003 Jeep renegade.. have had no problems until now,driving and lost power and then just stopped, petrol started pouring out of air filter and consequently filled up everything else with petrol including the muffler..,Jeep mechanics can’t find problem after nearly 2 weeks..maybe the computer they say…anyone else with similar problem?..this can was dangerous as with so much fuel in the car it was like a bomb!a dreadful safety hazard

  • Phil

    just about to buy a 2005 cherokee renegade (60,000k) after having a 1996 cherokee for a while.
    Hopefully any bugs have been ironed out by now!
    I think the brake issues that keep cropping up in this thread occur on all sorts of makes. I had a 2002 BA falcon from new to 60,000 k and that had new rotors every service. They would shudder like crazy after 5,000k. Service guys told me it was a design fault & the standard ford hard (long life) pads just made it worse.

    oh, the window lock on my 1996 cherokee has just started locking the windows up or down on all of its own…but I love my Jeep…

  • Lee Alford

    I feel sorry for each and everyone of You. I learn’t years ago, that Jeep were Crap. I always research my 4×4′s and have had 6 differen’t makes of 4×4.

    I nearly bought a 2001 model Cheerokee because they had a nice shape etc. But I researched they “Chewed” out Brakes and “Inferior” Rotors. Jeep knew about this for years and “Never gave a Stuff” about any complaints.

    Some people refuse to Install LPG into Jeeps, as they are so Dangerous. I know this for fact.

    Like they dont Give a Stuff about Jeeps “Bursting into Flames” either.

    They are Death Traps. I Warn You Now, if You are trapped when they catch fire or You are stuck in a Creek / River crossing, keep a Small sledge hammer in the Car
    ( to Break Glass ) as the windows will “Lock Up” as soon as Power from engine stops.

    I will suggest to You, and I have seen this done, either Get Together, All of You who have a Complaint and Put signs (Like “Do Not Buy This Jeep Rubbish” ) or other language Not too Obsene… etc, on Your cars at the Busiest times the Jeep dealers are Open and Go find a lovely “Legal” spot to park out the front of their Business or as close as possible to it. Stay on the Road or public land. ((Do Not go on their Premises for Your Protest!)) “Quietly protest. Do Not start any trouble.”

    And place Highly visible “Angry with Jeep” signs next to Your car, voicing Your concern. When you do this…make an Anonomys phone call to the Media about the “Protest” and be Sure to place a sign for the Media, that Clearly reads…”Jeep Warranties, Are Worthless” ! (Arrange for An Independant person to Video or tape any Confrontation, from Jeep or their Dealers).

    Then sit back and watch Jeep lift their game, as this will “Kill their sales Over night.”

    It is “People Power” not the Individual, who will beat these Idiots at their “Holier than thou” game. You All Deserve Respect! You, keep them Moron’s in a Job! Remind them of That !

    I personally like Landrovers, excluding the Freelander, but even LandRover has it’s share of Morons at the Top and (In Dealerships), who “STEAL” your money for a Living.

    So I hope I have Empowered You All. I am Not a Lawyer, but I am a Four Wheel Driver who would never take the “BulldS..t these Moron’s give Us…without a fight. And they would Lose with me, I don’t Give Up! ever, even If I have to get Nasty!

    Good Luck to You All. I wish I could help you All, but it would cost too much.

    Cheers, Lee.
    Stay Safe, All.

  • Bing

    Thanks for all this guys, I was about to go buy a new / used Jeep, no wonder they’re so cheap. Definitely won’t go near ‘em now.

  • Xandro

    I have a KJ Jeep Renegade as pictured above and I have to say – it’s perfect in all respects. This machine has never let me down and it’s perfect for both highway driving (as I drive to Kiama and back to Sydney on a regular basis) and it’s perfect off road (member of the Sydney Jeep Club).
    I have to disagree with Lee Alford above as Jeep does look after its customers – one of our members had a fire situation that Jeep were more than happy to take care of.
    Also, it’s incorrect to say one has to carry a sledge hammer if the windows lock up – try opening the doors for starters to get out. If one is that deep in water for the power to die, maybe one has gone too deep in the creek or river and any car would have suffered the same feat.
    I have never have had any trouble with the brakes and everything works rather well – the rotors are not at all inferior and I traveled 107,000 so far without a break down (thank God). I have been off road and have gotten stuck where my car has been pulled out of the mud but that was because I do not have “muddies” for extra grip – but when my second set of tyres go on me – I will totally replace them with better rubbers.
    I totally recommend the Jeep Renegade with Rock Bars as they are an essential for four wheel driving in particular if you want to play with the serious dudes who have the Rubicons and the Wranglers!
    Can’t wait to put on the 2 inch lift and muddies to go with it!
    Xandro

  • Chris

    I have had a KJ Cherokee for 3 years now, only fault i have had is the tailgate lock failed, and replaced by Jeep under warrenty, and for the dealers in QLD, Albion and Mt Gravatt i can not fault them they are great!

    Keep Smiling All

    • jack

      you got lucky,Chris.Maybe you can help me.
      At Jeep it’s $635 for the assembly (actuator) plus $180 labour for a $5 part that locks down when it fails.
      My tailgate lock actuator on KJ Cherokee failed 6 months out of warranty & six months after i bought it.
      Chris,maybe your guys at Mt.Gravatt or Albion would advise you how they get the tailgate open and you could help me.I could even drive there.
      It appears the actuator locks down in a “childsafe” type of function.I need to see an actuator or find a dash switch which reverses the “lockdown”.
      The finest mechanics can’t open the tailgate,even though it has a doorhandle and accessible latch.
      You can’t work the lock open after even 3 hours of labour or even remove the actuator – so you can’t disable it without seeing how it functions.Jeep have got you.
      But somehow Jeep know how to open the tailgate for the $800 fix.
      Can anybody help me??
      Keep smiling,Jack.

      • Jack

        ok Chris,i just spoke to JEEP.
        Make that a $720.00 actuator (single part) for a JEEP fix of $900.00 plus++++

        • Jack

          ps to all…this is a 2004 KJ Renegade,1st on road 2005.
          Make sure you tippy-toe in the wet !!!

  • Peter

    We recently bought an 06 Cherokee Renegade 3.7L. The globes had been taken out of all the interior lights but we replaced them and they all work. The ABS and brake light on the dash come on intermittently which is annoying. Aside from that everything works fine. The rotors and pads look fine and all the windows work. My wife loves the car so we are going to stick with it and see how it goes. It would be nice to be able to fix the ABS dash light though. Has anybody found a solution yet?

    • Bob

      My comments posted on 30 Oct 2010 regarding brake sensor cables may be of some assistance to you?

  • Freaked Out

    I am so glad i read this forum as i nearly purchased one today, i never realised they were this bad, i feel for all of you guys that have had such bad luck with these cars and i hope that you get your money back. thanks again for the warning and im going to look at the Suzuki grand vitara again i think :)

    • Anti-Jeep

      I purchased an 08 Grand Cherokee 3.0 CRD. It has been back 13 times for warranty issues. 8 of those visits were for the same issue, that to this date hasnt been fixed. 5 months out of 2 years of owning it has been spent in their workshop, with no outcome. Im taking them to court on the basis that they have breached there warranty contract. Cant wait to never own a Jeep again. I would advise anyone in the world to STAY AWAY from JEEP…………….

  • Chris

    I have a 2003 KJ Cherokee Diesel, and have had no gripes whatsoever with the vehicle or the dealership. I have had the ball Joints replaced as part of the recall, and found the comms from Jeep to be good and timely, and the whole process was painless.

    I’d by a Grand Cherokee if they came in manual :(

  • http://www.rmfischer@iburst.co.za rob

    I have a late 2002 3.7 kj with 165000km and its the best ‘truck’ i’ve ever owned even though i’ve had my heads redone(twice).Now my transmission light comes on after about 50km,I suspect it has somthing to do with been recovered out of a mud bath,i’ll get that sorted and hit the dirt again.Other than that i’ve had no other problems just pure fun,it’s a 4×4 drive it like one and enjoy it!I’ve put in a 2 1/2 lift,swaybar disconects better ball joints and now looking at a diff lock.All i can say to everybody is KEEP ON JEEPIN

  • Darcy

    I have a KJ MY 06 CRD from new, completed over 120k and aside from one dealer issue (loose brake pad after they were replaced) never had any issues. It has spent probably about 40k of this towing either my boat or the camper trailer. After replacing tyres at 80k with 50/50 all terrains it goes most places my mates 200 series landcruiser does.

    definatley recommend if you need to tow, finding a good dealer to service is the trick.

  • chris

    just reading the comments on this site, my ba ford has gone in for a transmission (180K) fair wack i reckon. but iam driving around in a 2003 renegade (as a loaner) and its up for sale, 135k, brand new tyres, 12mts rego, $16k plus orc.
    thought great value iam might buy it! driving it for a week, done over 1,200 km’s(i know, busy week) and the only problem is the engine light has come on recently, other then that car has gone fine. o yea, and aside running into this site. now iam totally confused

  • A.S.B.PEREIRA

    Steer away from JEEP.
    My JEEP CHEROKEE 2005 has been so unreliable that I have not got the guts to sell it to my worst enemy.
    Buy a NISSAN or a TOYOTA … and be happy !!!!

  • http://www.sydneyjeepclub.com Xandro

    I am back to report my first problem: Steering column ignition switch: gone!
    Recently I was stranded in the middle of nowhere and I was lucky to have road-side assistance with the NRMA (National Roads and Motoring Association of Australia) and they towed me home for free.
    Problem: I could not start my machine as the ignition switch (key hole in the steering column) told the immobilizer to stop the car.
    The on-board computer immobilized my car and I needed to replace the whole steering column at $2000 including parts and labor.
    My only gripe was with the mechanic who gave me the run around and the exorbitant price tag.
    Otherwise – perfect running. Have raised the suspension 2 inches. Have been off-road quite a lot and have joined the Sydney Jeep Club for keeps!
    Xandro.

  • Bob cross

    I have had a 1995 KJ Renegade from new.
    Since purchasing the vehicle it has proved to be generally reliable except for factory warranty recalls for front balljoints and a transmission fault repair.
    Two other non recall problems have occurred: The first one was the air con high pressure pipe sitting hard over the a sharp edge of the RH bonnet hinge bracket. In time I expect that this might have worn a hole in the air con line?
    I installed a PVC sleeve between the line & the hinge.
    At the next dealer service the pipe was relocated away from the hinge bracket.
    The next one was a little more serious. The ABS warning light on the dash turned on. I did not notice any real difference in braking performance under normal driving conditions except that when I turned the steering on to full left lock when pulling out of a parking space the brakes locked up & only released when the wheels were slightly straightened.
    On investigation I discovered that the ABS rotation sensor cable had been worn through the insulation & wires by the inside rim of the left wheel. This caused the ABS alarm & I suspect that the wheel rim was shorting the wires together during the hard left turn giving a false signal & activating the brakes.
    At the time the vehicle was out of warranty so I fixed the problem by stripping the insukation back, soldering the wires together and protecting the joint with indvidual & overall heatshrink protection. No problems since. The right hand side cable also showed signs of wear from the rim.
    I believe that the location of the cables so close to the inner wheel rim is a design fault & I would be surprised if nobody else has experienced this problem. It was impossible to relocate the cables away from the rims with the existing setup so I utlised nylon cable ties to hold the cables back & away from the rims.
    Had this been looked at by a service agent I suspect that they would have replaced the complete sensor & cable arrangement at a great cost & perhaps would have left the cables in their original position to create a future repeat of the problem?
    The Jeep has only done 45,000kM so far with no brake wear problems or problems other than those described above.

  • Jack

    At Jeep it’s $720 for the ACTUATOR plus $180 labour for a part that locks down when it fails.
    My tailgate lock actuator on KJ 2004 Cherokee Renegade 3.7L (first on road ’05) failed 6 months out of warranty & six months after i bought it.
    Somehow Jeep know how to open the tailgate for a $900 fix.
    To Chris – maybe your guys at Mt.Gravatt or Albion would advise you how they get the tailgate open and you could help me.
    It appears the actuator locks down in a “childsafe” type of function.I need to see an actuator or find a switch which reverses the “lockdown”.
    The finest mechanics can’t open the tailgate,even though it has a doorhandle and accessible latch.
    This is not acceptable.
    You can’t work the lock open after even 2 hours of labour or even remove the actuator – so you can’t disable it without seeing how it functions.Jeep have got you.
    Can anybody help me??

  • V.happy with my Jeep

    I have a MY2005 Cherokee Renegade, had it for 4 years and I love it. It is brilliant. Take it off road, tow a boat, etc. Done nearly 150000 kms, drive it every day. I have cracked the radiator off roading and have blown a speaker, just general wear and tear on a vehicle, nothing really serious. It can be a more expensive to repair, but it is an imported vehicle and a 4×4, so I expected that when I bought it. Don’t get me wrong though, it’s not prohibitively expensive for anything I’ve had done. It’s thirsty on the petrol, but that is to be expected for a heavy off road vehicle so once again no illusions with that. Overall I am very happy with my Jeep and I am not thinking of replacing it any time soon.

    Sounds to me like Gilda C had a bad experience with her dealer, tainting her view of the vehicle. I mean, “Type 42″ error? That’s not a problem with the vehicle. And sometimes cars get recalled to fix things, that’s not just a Jeep thing. As for the guy who says paint signs and sit out the front of the dealer? Are you serious, you need a hobby, you don’t even own a Jeep. And the guy who starts his rant with “Every car I’d owned was a complete lemon…”. Every car? Really?

    Here’s some advice, take some of these complaints with a grain of salt.

  • Happy Jeep

    I bought a 1994 Cherokee Limited with 285,000 kms as a second car in December last year. Nothing has gone wrong, I can’t believe that a car that is now up to 295,000 still drives so well. I live in Sydney city, it is so compact to park, a full 1 metre shorter than my ford courier, also even shorter than a Toyota Camry or Toyota Rav 4. Has a great turning circle, seats are fantasticly snug and comfortable and supportive, realiable, quite inside, paint work still good. Engine and gear box still amazing, nothing wrong with it, I race round Sydney as a builder, driving all day and it sits on 2100 rmp at 110km on the free way, its stable and quite, and I storm trooper my way down the free way to my farm near Canberra, never misses a beat, and feels so safe as a hyway car. Incredably impress, so I bought a new cherokee limited today and hope it will be as brilliant as my current one.

  • Happy Jeep

    Ps. Forgot to say, I really race it, I hold the gears in the auto, take it through to 5000 rpm, it doesn’t use any oil, and the gears till change smoother than my mothers brand new comodore, how is that even possible? How can a 17 year old 300,000km car still have that much power and still be so smooth and in the noisy city I think it may even be quiter than my friends lexus, it feels it, I thought cars from america were supposed to be crap, but this one shocks me in a good way. I paid $3,500 for a car that has leather and fits in perfectly at the polo gatherings, now that is an amazing trick.